Red Carnations

8749 wrote:
"My feeling is that mid-June, 1966 was the critical period in the Paul mystery."

I think it was (poster) Doc who first pinpointed June 1966 as being a significant period here.
He did it on the basis of an article about the Beatles' drums not being shipped to (or from?)
the Ed Sullivan theater for a TV performance.
So yes, you may be right.
I haven't seen the New Musical Express interview.

Actually, what I heard was, that the day after the Candlestick Park concert, Ringo's drumset as provided by Ludwig, was shipped to New York to be available for an upcoming, September 1966 booking ON the Ed Sullivan show. It was to be their first live book in a long time on that show.

The drums got there and then were sent over to another holding place in New York
because the booking was postponed or canceled; nobody really knew what to do with the drums so they were held somewhere under someone else's care. I forgot that detail of course, but can find out again with a little time. It all has to do with Dick Shorey at
Ludwig. The reason given for the 1966 cancelation was that Brian Epstein had suddenly died.

They stayed in storage for a year and eventually were sold to some dude who showcased them in Huntsville Alabama as Ringo's last American drum set. They were missing
I think for a while.

Of course, there is argument about the "drop T" logo on the bass drum; some say that it does not match the little bit of footage from the Candlestick Park Concert; of course, this could mean that when footage was "created" or edited to represent that night, nobody knew the appearance of the drum logo from that night (it was unique) and so it was incorrectly edited or rendered in whatever visual record there now exists for the evening. I.e., of course they must say it is the wrong set otherwise it argues for the
Candlestick Park footage as being manufactured after the fact; i.e., where is the real footage of that night?

Who knew the set would turn up again but it did.

What do I believe? I am not sure. Some people on the net have chosen to disparage the integrity of Mr. Shorey, and others from Ludwig drums, but the one person I know who has met Mr. Shorey on more than one occasion (and seen the drumset in question in person) says that he is a very honest, non-presumptuous person. I have not met him and never will, so I can not comment further except to say that it is an interesting
bit of story from 1966 but there is just so little to verify any of it by.

I have heard a rumor that Bernard Purdie is moving to Atlanta sometime and I would be curious to ask him if he still believes that he played drums on "She Loves You", or whatever, but so far he hasn't turned up in musician circles here.

Everything one hears is a feather in the wind; it floats around but never lands.

Another item I found about the MMT/Your Mother Should Know sequence: at Seltaeb's Beatles clips website, they say, "The song was originally composed with the use of continuous drum rolls by Ringo giving the impression of a funeral march. This version was later scratched in favor of a more fluid one."

And yet another red carnation reference. In the book, The Man Who Made The Beatles An Intimate Biography of Brian Epstein by Ray Coleman (McGraw-Hill, 1989), he is describing the aftermath of Epstein's death and says, "On the day after Brian's death, five red carnations were spread in a row on the top step at Chapel Street [Epstein's house]. Written on a rough piece of paper was the message 'We love you too.' The admirers were anonymous."