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Back to the Egg « Thread Started on Jul 19, 2005, 4:32pm »
Back to the Egg, a Wings album from 1979, has a song called "The Broadcast". It's essentially a man making a speech with piano music playing in the background, and it is from a play by John Galsworthy called "The Little Man". I'm still wondering about the meaning, here's a link to the play:
To summarize, the "little man" boards the train with a baby he is holding as a favor to the mother, but she gets left behind and the man is stuck taking care of the baby. They reach the next station, and because of a language barrier between the little man and the police, he is falsely accused of kidnapping. Finally the mother shows up and clears things up, and "The American" makes this speech (the lyrics to "The Broadcast") at the feet of the "little man".
Brother, I am proud to know you. This is one of the greatest moments I have ever experienced. I think I sense the situation when we can all esteem it, and honour, To breathe the rather inferior atmosphere in this station Here along with our little friend.
I guess we should all go home and treasure the memory of his face As the whitest thing in our museum of recollection. And, perhaps, this good woman will also go home And wash the face of our little brother here.
I'm inspired with a new faith in mankind. Ladies and gentlemen, I wish to present to you A sure enough saint only one a halo to be transferred. Stand right on.
Except "The Broadcast" adds a few lines before the above speech from the play:
We're got a chance and we'll take it; We may win or we may lose; We may even have to cut and run for it. Well, it won't be the first time I've run And it won't be the first time I've been caught. It's the game that matters.
Which doesn't seem to be from anything I can find, other than the lyrics themselves. There's something there, just can't quite...put my finger on it..
"It is quite possible that societies - much like individuals - collectively repress information, concepts, and ideas which would produce high anxiety levels if dealt with consciously."
>>11 Jun 79 3Back to the Egg2 released >>with Shroud of Turin photo >Gosh, I missed that one, and I had the cassette too. Maybe I don't >recognize a religious artifact when I see one.
Guess I was able to actually add value to your day. It's in the CD as well. It's the shot of the interior dome of the Chapel of the Shroud in Turin (with a golden bird at the apex). Apart from the Shroud, the building, by Guarino Guarini, is considered rather important, a turning point in occult architecture. Notable that John would have an interest and have that photo on the next of Paul's albums. The egg is the model for the geometry of the dome, and this is the album of Paul's which comes the closest to the Walrus/eggman agenda of the WA, The photo is by Linda. I would be very interested in knowing when they were there. And also what is the other photo, which looks like the bottom of a drained swimming pool?
Authored by Ted Goranson, an MIT professor who is a bit of Beatle "mystorian" himself..
But yes indeed this is the dome, a link that shows this, and then the back cover:
"It is quite possible that societies - much like individuals - collectively repress information, concepts, and ideas which would produce high anxiety levels if dealt with consciously."
Re: Back to the Egg « Reply #3 on Mar 4, 2007, 3:59pm »
the broadcast -- faul is saying he's like the man who was left to take care of the baby without planning on it. the baby being paul's image...
the shroud of turin of course is the image of the messiah , just as faul is the image of the messiah figure JPM (whose ashes were sent into orbit on gemini xiii)
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Re: Back to the Egg « Reply #6 on Mar 4, 2007, 6:53pm »
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Is there anything to back up the whole sent to space theory or did you guys just think it sounded cool.
Actually, they ARE doing this. I found a magazine arcticle about it, and, if I can find where I misplaced it, I will scan and post. But yep, people can pay $$$ and have the cremated ashes of their loved one sent up into space, like, really, low orbit, and stay there orbiting till kingdom come. I didn't ever believe this madness was going on, but it's true. It is a legitimate business.
Now, I don't think they were doing that in 1966 1969 or even in the 80's, but lately.....
"Fly Me to the Moon, And I will float among the stars. Paid to launch my ashes up to Jupiter and Mars."......
Re: Back to the Egg « Reply #7 on Mar 4, 2007, 7:23pm »
Mellow Yellow wrote: "Is there anything to back up the whole sent to space theory, or did you guys just think it sounded cool?"
It came up at TKIN a number of years ago, but the first I heard that, "Paul died, and his body was sent into space" was back in about 1981. Of course I dismissed it out of hand at the time. I was somewhat open to the idea of PID/PWR, but the space thing seemed ridiculous. Now it doesn't. There seem to be some song references hinting at it, which I'll get to later.
Here's a picture of the docking module drifting away from the Gemini 12 space capsule. The docking module was actually part of the second stage of the rocket that had launched the Gemini capsule into orbit. The crew had practised docking with it (linking to it). The end of the module had been altered to allow the space capsule to dock with it. When I saw this picture in a magazine when I was a teenager, I was astonished to see the three dots in the distance. It registered as a spacecraft to my eyes. It still does. The dots are supposedly debris of some sort: ice crystals or something. Sure they are! The Gemini 12 Mission is shown symbollically in the painting on the Moody Blues album "Days of Future Passed":
There certainly is a lot of suggestion of birth/rebirth; mankind "born" as space travelers, etc. in the picture on that album, but the Gemini craft only orbited the Earth. The "birth" of true space travel would have been the Apollo missions which followed Gemini 12. So why was the Gemini 12 mission depicted as the birth of space travel? Unless, of course, unbeknownst to the many, it actually was. I'll add more shortly.
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Mellow Yellow writes: "Interesting. I always assumed Paul was cremated and dumped in the ocean.
"Way down.... below the ocean. Where I want to be, she may be" - Donovan "
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The song "Glass Onion" might suggest that, particularly the "sinking" music at the end of it, and there is that football trophy/urn on the cover of Sgt. Pepper. Total Information could be right about Paul's ashes being sent into space as well. Or Paul's body may have been "buried" at sea, uncremated.
I think the quote from Donovan pertains to Atlantis, not Paul, possibly being in the ocean. That, afterall, is where it supposedly ended up.
But if Paul's body was in the ocean when he died, prior to his funeral, it could have been fished out. That's the kind of thing the yellow (at the time) submarine, "the Alvin", would have been used for. If you listen to the repetitions at the end of "I Want You/She's So Heavy" on Abbey Road, a rough ocean, howling wind, and presumably a drowning is what you'll hear. "Octopus's Garden" is about the ocean bottom. Glass Onion could be about looking through a "glass onion" (an underwater window), looking for Paul's drowned body. I think that's the message.
Remember, in the Klaatu song "Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby", Sir Bodsworth (probably alluding to Paul) calls to the narrator from the sea:
"then one night While tripping down the English coast The moon was whiter than a ghost, almost When I heard a voice yell through a megaphone And there upon the midnight sea A signal lamp signalled me I could feel me blood run cold As the message did decode I'm the only man who's ever been to Hell and come back alive Well who else could it be But good old Rugglesby? He's the only man could ever get to Hell and come back alive Yes he's the only man who's (He's the only one) Ever gone and been to (Who's been and gone) To hell and come back Hell and come back Hell and come back alive"
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Re: Back to the Egg « Reply #9 on Mar 4, 2007, 9:34pm »
Mellow Yellow wrote: "Interesting. I always assumed Paul was cremated and dumped in the ocean. "Way down.... below the ocean. Where I want to be, she may be" - Donovan "
You got me thinking. Donovan's lyric suggests that Atlantis (where he wants to be) may be functional in some way in the present; an underwater empire, but not destroyed as one might presume it would have been. An "Octopus's Garden" the way Ringo sang about it, or the way Stevie Nicks sings about "Drowning In A Sea of Love".
But drowning none-the-less. Not alive in the sense we are on the surface world. Kind of "Bermuda Triangle alive". Like the end of the Titanic movie. Which is to say: physically dead, except for Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby, who came back.
Donovan expressed his "Subterranian Homesick Blues" you could say, but I doubt that he really wanted to die. You may be right Mellow Yellow: "she" (Wild Honey Pie?) might be "in Atlantis" (but dead as we see it). Interesting! Unless she's baaaaaaaaack.
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Re: Back to the Egg « Reply #11 on May 2, 2007, 8:58pm »
Trivia contests are fun.. I learned that the figure on the mantelpiece is Queen Semiramis, also featured much more prominently on the Wings Greatest Hits cover.
According to legend, Semiramis was the daughter of the fish-goddess Derketo of Ascalon in Syria and a mortal. Derketo abandoned her at birth and drowned herself. The child was fed by doves until she was found and brought up by Simmas, the royal shepherd. Afterwards she married Onnes or Menones, one of the generals of Ninus. Ninus was so struck by her bravery at the capture of Bactra that he married her, forcing Onnes to commit suicide. After Ninus's death she reigned as Queen in her own right, and conquered much of Asia.
"It is quite possible that societies - much like individuals - collectively repress information, concepts, and ideas which would produce high anxiety levels if dealt with consciously."
Re: Back to the Egg « Reply #19 on May 9, 2007, 11:08am »
I know that. But I also read that Bill wrote about a similar incident happening to him when he was on vacation in Hawaii. Paul's misadventure happened somewhere else.
Re: Back to the Egg « Reply #20 on Aug 10, 2007, 8:07pm »
the Savoy Truffle? Creme tangerine and Montélimar A ginger sling with a pineapple heart A coffee dessert--yes you know it's good news But you'll have to have them all pulled out After the Savoy truffle.
Cool cherry cream, nice apple tart I feel your taste all the time we're apart Coconut fudge--really blows down those blues But you'll have to have them all pulled out After the Savoy truffle.
You might not feel it now But when the pain cuts through You're gonna know and how The sweat is going to fill your head When it becomes too much You'll shout aloud
But you'll have to have them all pulled out After the Savoy truffle.
You know that what you eat you are, But what is sweet now, turns so sour-- We all know Obla-Di-Bla-Da But can you show me, where you are?..
Creme tangerine and Montélimar A ginger sling with a pineapple heart A coffee dessert--yes you know its good news But you'll have to have them all pulled out After the Savoy truffle. Yes, you'll have to have them all pulled out After the Savoy truffle.
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Re: Back to the Egg « Reply #21 on Aug 11, 2007, 7:49am »
I'm not Catholic, but this image reminds me of the Catholic "Monstrance", which is supposed to be the communion host....
I've read many things from different sources where the Catholic Traditions have been taken from ancient Babylon Mystery Religions.
Semiramis is the equivalent to Mary- Queen of the Heavens
and the child image that many believe to be Jesus, was really Tammuz, or Osirus, among many other names depending on which ancient culture you are looking to...Krishna, Assyria, among others....
The Two Babylons by Alexander Hisslop (I think that's how it is spelled) is one of those books which shows the comparison of both.
Eggs are highly esteemed in those ancient traditions because it's associated with fertility and the mating rituals....
Eggs are the beginning of life.....
they are also part of the beginning of the day....part of most traditional breakfasts....One breaks the fast of the night with eggs....
Re: Back to the Egg « Reply #23 on Aug 11, 2007, 10:36pm »
In "Many Years From Now" Paul talks about his film ideas. After his discussion of his Ian Iachimoe ad in the underground magazine "Global Moon Edition of the Long Hair Times" offering 20 guineas for someone to fill out his script about a woman obsessed with cleanliness, Paul writes this:
I was very interested in making films. I used to have a few images that I stored to use if I ever did make a film. I suppose I was thinking of New Wave French directors, or New Wave Polish in this case. I remember I had an image of breaking an egg into an ashtray, a very full, very dirty ashtray. That was a shot that was always on my mind. I think it was the natural perfection of the egg breaking into the really slobby man-made mess of all the ciggies and stuff. I was interested in the contrast.
I find this to be an odd thing to be "always on [his] mind," but the death and rebirth metaphor of the ashes and egg is pretty obvious. I think he still had this on his mind when he wrote "However Absurd" on his Press To Play album.
Ears twitch like a dog Breaking eggs in a dish Do not mock me when I say This is not a lie
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