Looking for ppl to interview for film « Thread Started on Oct 5, 2005, 7:51am »
HI My name is Astrid Bussink and im a dutch filmmaker. Im currently in the process of making a short film about Lies and im looking for people who want to talk about the lies surrounding Paul Mccartney. If your interested let me know on astridbussink@zonnet.nl
Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #1 on Mar 2, 2006, 10:24pm »
Hello Astrid: I for one do not believe in the "Paul is Dead" therory. This was brought about by people with way too much time to think ignorantly on their hands. The Beatles were a band of young creative gentleman with very fertile minds; who liked to goof around a bit. With so much rubbish piled up about them ; I'm certain they could not help but add some confounding elements to keep us all amused. Genius at it's Best; or B.S at it's worst. Nothing more; nothing less.
Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #2 on Mar 3, 2006, 11:32am »
Astrid, I disagree with the last poster. Paul is dead. He was replaced in late 1966. I will be happy to talk to you about this at any time. I will be e-mailing you soon. Thank you so much for trying to bring this out into the light.
Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #4 on Mar 10, 2006, 7:43pm »
Oh Lovely Rita Meter Maid..... I do feel sad for you....... In your mind you cannot tell what is true...... It must be hard not to know.... Wheather you are high; or flying low..... The dream my friend never really does end......But you decide...And do let us know... What does go on in your mind?????
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Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #5 on Mar 10, 2006, 9:26pm »
Srimirabai, stop with your condescending attitude and don't attack other posters. You know, I don't like telling other posters off, but if you're going to be like that, maybe you'd be better off posting at the maccafunhouse.
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Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #6 on Mar 10, 2006, 9:38pm »
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Oh Lovely Rita Meter Maid..... I do feel sad for you....... In your mind you cannot tell what is true...... It must be hard not to know.... Wheather you are high; or flying low..... The dream my friend never really does end......But you decide...And do let us know... What does go on in your mind?????
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Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #7 on Mar 10, 2006, 10:37pm »
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Oh Lovely Rita Meter Maid..... I do feel sad for you....... In your mind you cannot tell what is true...... It must be hard not to know.... Wheather you are high; or flying low..... The dream my friend never really does end......But you decide...And do let us know... What does go on in your mind?????
Before I share what's on in my mind, tell me what authority you have to get on my case and act so patronizing? I've been posting in this forum long before you have and this is the first time I have ever faced someone questioning my mind.
Just because I don't subscribe to your delusion that Bill is the same man who first appeared on Ed Sullivan, but believe that PWR doesn't make me delusional. Perhaps you need to hear the evidence and see the pictures that show Bills fake ears...let alone all the other information.
You can continue to believe that Bill is Paul...but it doesn't change the evidence that others have shared.
Jai, thanks for standing up to this person.
If one chooses to believe the delusion that Bill is JPM, let him go to that other place....
We are just trying to share what we've discovered and observed.
Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #8 on Mar 11, 2006, 9:34am »
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The Programming is strong with this one...
but not his spell checker...
Revolver, touche !
I think that Rita handled that very diplomatically. The thing is, if he goes to Maccafunhouse & gives them a hard time, they'll rip him a new a**hole. The people there are very adament concerning their viewpoints. They don't take any shit !
We best keep this to ourselves and not tell any members of our inner posse...
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Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #9 on Mar 11, 2006, 2:44pm »
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The Programming is strong with this one...
but not his spell checker...
Revolver, touche !
I think that Rita handled that very diplomatically. The thing is, if he goes to Maccafunhouse & gives them a hard time, they'll rip him a new a**hole. Those people aren't as nice as we are !
Srimi - you need to grow up, man.
Isn't that a little harsh? I'm a member there and Co - Admin on the Macca Backyard with JoJo.
PIDers are welcome on both MFH and Macca Backyard. I realise that there's been some disagreements (not to mention literally 100's of PID song parodies posted), but seriously, PIDers can post on MFH. There's no real dislike against PID posters with the possible exception of Sunking aka BeatlePaul. And maybe one or two others. But overall, it's nothing personal.
Things are pretty open on Macca Backyard as well. The purpous of that forum is for PID/PWR/PIA/PWD's views could join together and post their views.
Btw, I would like to pass on some well wishes from the MFH members for Sister Mary Abbey. We hope she has a speedy recovery and gets better soon. That is the sincere hope of several MFH members.
Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #10 on Mar 11, 2006, 2:55pm »
Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist
by H. Michael Sweeney copyright (c) 1997, 2000 All rights reserved
(Revised April 2000 - formerly SEVEN Traits)
1) Avoidance. They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility.
2) Selectivity. They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and-run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well.
3) Coincidental. They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and vanish with the reason.
4) Teamwork. They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength.
5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain. Or, one might more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do.
6) Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It's just a job, and they often seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally continue their old disinfo patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play that game -- where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up.
7) Inconsistent. There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray their true self/motives. This may stem from not really knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side of truth deep within. I have noted that often, they will simply cite contradictory information which neutralizes itself and the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills (spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy pilots who don't have a college degree. Another claimed no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later claimed first-hand knowledge of it.
8) BONUS TRAIT: Time Constant. Recently discovered, with respect to News Groups, is the response time factor. There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially when the government or other empowered player is involved in a cover up operation:
1) ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT - FAST RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed towards truth.
2) When dealing in more direct ways with a disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR - there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay. This allows a sit-down team discussion on response strategy for best effect, and even enough time to 'get permission' or instruction from a formal chain of command. 3) In the NG example 1) above, it will often ALSO be seen that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the same 48-72 hours delay - the team approach in play. This is especially true when the targeted truth seeker or their comments are considered more important with respect to potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth sayer will be attacked twice for the same sin.
I close with the first paragraph of the introduction to my unpublished book, Fatal Rebirth:
Truth cannot live on a diet of secrets, withering within entangled lies. Freedom cannot live on a diet of lies, surrendering to the veil of oppression. The human spirit cannot live on a diet of oppression, becoming subservient in the end to the will of evil. God, as truth incarnate, will not long let stand a world devoted to such evil. Therefore, let us have the truth and freedom our spirits require... or let us die seeking these things, for without them, we shall surely and justly perish in an evil world.
"It is quite possible that societies - much like individuals - collectively repress information, concepts, and ideas which would produce high anxiety levels if dealt with consciously."
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Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #14 on Mar 12, 2006, 7:59pm »
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Were the admins aware there is a warning points system now available to target such troublemakers as srimirabai?
Yes, we did something like that way back when in a less automated way I guess. (second warning, etc)
Overkill for this situation, and the membership rose to the occasion, don't you think?
Oh and there's no need to disparage MFH, they have been good about not bothering our side of the fence for some time. I know they have plenty to say over there, but that's no concern or worry of mine. (I know it's nothing personal)
Beatlies, is that quote you posted yours? Or are you just a great admirer?
"It is quite possible that societies - much like individuals - collectively repress information, concepts, and ideas which would produce high anxiety levels if dealt with consciously."
Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #16 on Mar 13, 2006, 11:53am »
Miss Vaggie - I am so sorry, hon. You are so sweet, I forgot that you came to us from MaccaForever. I'm going to correct my post. I wanted to say that to you, before I did so. That way, people won't say, " what the heck is Miss Vaggie responding to " Please tell the people at MFH who have been so kind as to show concern for SMA, that I will relay that message to her as soon as I can get her on the phone. Due to the radiation & chemo, her voice is sometimes non-existent. I can make out most of what she's whispering to me, but it causes her a great deal of pain to do so. Also tell them that even though there might have been a difference of opinion, she enjoyed the time she spent on that forum. She especially loved corresponding with Vagabond aka Miss Vagabond aka our own Miss Vaggie. She used to tell me that ALL THE TIME while she was still active on that board.
JoJo, I know that about MFH. I didn't realize that what I posted sounded that harsh. That's why I corrected what I wrote as soon as I saw Miss Vaggie's response.
Rita, thank you. I will be certain to tell her that you also send her good wishes.
SMA hasn't been able to go on the computer as much as she would like. As soon as she has her strength back, she'll be back here fighting the good fight !
We best keep this to ourselves and not tell any members of our inner posse...
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Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #17 on Mar 13, 2006, 12:55pm »
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Miss Vaggie - I am so sorry, hon. You are so sweet, I forgot that you came to us from MaccaForever. I'm going to correct my post. I wanted to say that to you, before I did so. That way, people won't say, " what the heck is Miss Vaggie responding to " Please tell the people at MFH who have been so kind as to show concern for SMA, that I will relay that message to her as soon as I can get her on the phone. Due to the radiation & chemo, her voice is sometimes non-existent. I can make out most of what she's whispering to me, but it causes her a great deal of pain to do so. Also tell them that even though there might have been a difference of opinion, she enjoyed the time she spent on that forum. She especially loved corresponding with Vagabond aka Miss Vagabond aka our own Miss Vaggie. She used to tell me that ALL THE TIME while she was still active on that board.
JoJo, I know that about MFH. I didn't realize that what I posted sounded that harsh. That's why I corrected what I wrote as soon as I saw Miss Vaggie's response.
Rita, thank you. I will be certain to tell her that you also send her good wishes.
SMA hasn't been able to go on the computer as much as she would like. As soon as she has her strength back, she'll be back here fighting the good fight !
Thanks so much for your kind words, Lili. As I've said, everybody on Macca Funhouse wishes Sister Abbey a healthy and speedy recovery.
Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #18 on Mar 14, 2006, 7:05am »
Dear Rita: I do apoligize if I offended you. I just cannot believe that anyone would truly believe some of the things I see posted on this site. Besides; what of it if Paul was replaced? There is nothing anyone could do about it. The man who is "playing" him has done a pretty good job would'nt you say? He is after all a human being no matter what any of us believe or don't believe about him. This has been an interesting controversy for many years. I think what matters most is the music and the message of the Beatles. It is also good once in a while to passionately defend in what you believe in. While we may not agree on this subject do not forget that nothing is what it really seems. We may both be "wrong". Again I'm sorry if I upset you.
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Re: Looking for ppl to interview for film « Reply #19 on Mar 15, 2006, 12:20am »
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Oh Lovely Rita Meter Maid..... I do feel sad for you....... In your mind you cannot tell what is true...... It must be hard not to know.... Wheather you are high; or flying low..... The dream my friend never really does end......But you decide...And do let us know... What does go on in your mind?????
Those are really harsh words and it's understandable why one would be offended by those words.
I accept your apology and I don't have a problem with someone with a different opinion than mine. But with that wording, it came off judgmental and harsh.
There's enough problems in the world, we don't need to be hateful, or abusive in this forum.
The Professional Paranoid by H. Michael Sweeney tells you how to become just that. When the book opens with, "Even if you only think you might be targeted by some person, group or agency, it is probably true," you realize immediately what you're dealing with. Sweeney teaches the reader how to be scared of strangers, of noises, cars, lamp posts, loved ones, co-workers, computers, locksmiths, mailmen, shopkeepers and inviso-rays. According to Sweeney, most anything and everything is a potential (if not actual) threat.
The Professional Paranoid is not a book about avoiding government surveillance so much as it's about avoiding everything to the point of committing a kind of living suicide-alienating everyone around you, making yourself unemployable and getting yourself thrown out of your own apartment. Near the end of the book, he even suggests wearing a tinfoil lining in your hat to protect yourself from various electronic weaponry.
When it comes to hard, technical data about the things you need to be looking for in order to justify your paranoia, Sweeney's book can't be beat. If Sweeney tells you to be on the lookout for someone who seems to be following you down the sidewalk for an unusually long time, you'll see someone following you down the sidewalk.
"It is quite possible that societies - much like individuals - collectively repress information, concepts, and ideas which would produce high anxiety levels if dealt with consciously."
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