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« Reply #50 on Sept 7, 2008, 1:09am »


Sept 7, 2008, 1:01am, iameye wrote:


anyway, what's up with the lights in the window?


When LB asked me to make this still, that's the one comment I had when I sent it. (other than yikes!)
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« Reply #51 on Sept 7, 2008, 9:33am »

[image] ;)

Aren't they just the reflection of the hall lights behind where we're standing?
Or the lighting crew for the camera goofed.
Or The Father, Son and The Holy Ghost...

You know what's weird? The little girls invited Danny to come play with them "forever and ever and ever",
and apparently he did! The only other film he did was a bio of G. Gordon Liddy, where he played
G as a child.

Danny Lloyd from "The Shining" In "G.Gordon Liddy" 1982
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqayaY-gmAg

Some quirky things about that too. 00:15 -A Shane Company Production, and the
film editor was Howard Deane. ;D (01:08)
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« Reply #52 on Sept 7, 2008, 10:35am »


Sept 6, 2008, 11:27pm, B wrote:
Obsessing.... Obsessing....

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Who's dead? Is that an "A"? Could that be a "P" on the left of the window? An "L" next to that
cross-shaped stain to the right? I can imagine I see a "U" pointed to by the three lights in the window....

See it in context: The Shining hallway scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmn6FRgYwBQ

One thing for sure, it happened on a Tuesday....

The Shining Room 237 Clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t60oY0TbTU

The Shining RedRum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g874H2GBPlA

The door is an inverted cross. The "Redrum" was satanic.
Do you suppose it happened in a red rum?

The Shining (1980) Trailer- Alternate Version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6qDqdYY6-Y


So funny, B. I was manipulating the hell out of the hallway scene a few weeks ago, trying to find something relevant in the blood stains, but came up empty. :(

About the redrum, though...could Kubrick have been telling us to have a look at a red DRUM?

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« Reply #53 on Sept 7, 2008, 5:50pm »

P(D)enny La(i)ne wrote:
"...could Kubrick have been telling us to have a look at a red DRUM?"

I think so. But perhaps not in the way you might think!
Kubrick seems to use colors as part of some type of magic; so you may very well be right.
It's like when Iamaphoney reverses the Beatle songs, as if to "undo" their magic spell.
We've read that Kubrick's choice of yellow seems to counter King's use of red in the book.

When we see Jack in the bathroom, he's up to his shoulders in redness.
We also see that when he attempts to write, he is unable to connect with his muse,
even while he's sitting in the sun chair.
Symbolically then, his "sins are as scarlet", so to speak, and have cut him off from the source
of his inspiration. The sun representing the source of spiritual light and inspiration, doesn't
shine on him even though he sits on its "throne".

In terms of the Beatles, we can think of Jack as representing Faul (or perhaps John) - driving
"the sun-colored "Beetle", on that long and winding road, but not getting
to the "top of the pyramid" while on what is the "road to the sun", as was already pointed out
in the one videos .
While on "the road to the sun" he has been temporarily delayed...

The symbolism apparently transcends the movie. In this video:

The Shining - Kubrick - The making of Shining (part2/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4GMrNTA_HE

we see Mr. Kubrick feverishly typing away on an arguably yellow typewriter at 02:45.
It's part of the system of magic, apparently. It's not part of the film, but there it is!
So the magic is being done even beyond what's "in the show".

Jack's "uninspired" typewriter (shown at 02:30 in the video below) is white, and then later
blue-grey (04:38) and (05:18).

The Shining--Kubricks symbolism explained
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivFs8SKHW7k

Take note of the poster for the movie. It features an enormous T - with a ghostly face in it.
The "T" itself has significance, like the white Beatles T in this video:

a Lie Adds Up - son king 0911 281 F
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acb2mHmMW1I

Evidently the T symbolizes The Cross, or Thelema, if you wish.

Note the use of yellow in the poster, as well. Yellow - like sunshine.

(See it at the start of this video:)
The Making of The Shining - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmGTUHA17Dk

As "our" Apollo C Vermouth once wrote : "That's the beauty of writing. You can be
anyone you wish
." (my emphasis)

Kubrick, using his yellow typewriter to create his version of "The Shining", is possibly
counter-acting the failed "red magic" of whoever is "on the opposing team".
So then, is he, as a writer, acting as the voice for a dead Paul McCartney, who is, perhaps,
represented by the ghost in the "T"? Is Kubrick's "The Shining"
intended to represent the defacto voice of the sun?

Nicholson, of course, can represent "every man" in the film. He's driving "the Beetle".
But he is cut off from source, and tainted with blood. Remember: he has "always been
the caretaker" of the hotel, just as "every man" has been the "caretaker" of the Earth.
(Adam's role in creation was supposed to be the "care taker" of the garden, in the book of Genesis.)
The Beatles song "Baby, You Can Drive My Car" can be considered in the context of
us being allowed to drive our souls (our 'Ka' as the Egyptians called it) toward our destiny.
"Dad" (God) is letting the kids (us) drive the car to its ultimate destination, (reunion with source).
So symbolically Jack is driving his sunnyVWBeetle, and likewise you are
'driving' your "ka". But whose 'ka' are you driving?
"My car" is the Sun's "yellow" car. You, who are driving it, have borrowed it from "Dad", the Sun.
The physical sun symbolizes the spiritual sun energy that you are a part of [aka "God"].
And so when Danny "shines", it's because he's a part of "the sun", as are you.
Danny shines, because he's innocent, and is a fairly recent arrival from "the sun".
Adults like Jack, Wendy and you shine as well, but.....
Well, obviously this post is all over the place, but I'm saying that Kubrick, who likes the sun,
("A Clockwork Orange") is attempting to shine a little light, using VW Beetles and maybe some real Beatles.
(Thanks to "grandfather aleister" for pointing this out.)
Did you notice the two cars in his lane that Jack passes on the road to (ahem) The Overlook ?
They're not moving. There's symbolism there. It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye
of a needle than it was for that limosine to get through the rock tunnel.
Anyway, P(D)enny La(i)ne, that "red drum" whose picture you posted - The Sun, of course! ;D
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« Reply #54 on Sept 7, 2008, 5:58pm »

Typewriter: UnderWood,Larry, diillusioned pop star B ;)
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« Reply #55 on Sept 7, 2008, 10:38pm »

I am not Mr. Mildew, but Jack using an Underworld typewriter, I could see.

Here are some more observations on THE SHINING:

THE SHINING in-depth analysis UPDATED by Rob Ager pt 1 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEulbcXkgjo

THE SHINING in-depth analysis UPDATED by Rob Ager pt 2 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUavRrCMUZ0

THE SHINING in-depth analysis UPDATED by Rob Ager pt 3 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0v_8-XjAm0
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« Reply #56 on Sept 8, 2008, 7:29am »


Sept 7, 2008, 5:50pm, B wrote:
P(D)enny La(i)ne wrote:
"...could Kubrick have been telling us to have a look at a red DRUM?"


The symbolism apparently transcends the movie. In this video:

The Shining - Kubrick - The making of Shining (part2/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4GMrNTA_HE

we see Mr. Kubrick feverishly typing away on an arguably yellow typewriter at 02:45.
It's part of the system of magic, apparently. It's not part of the film, but there it is!
So the magic is being done even beyond what's "in the show".




also, in this vid, it's Danny that has the Holy Grail ( for his ice cream!)

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continuity film error also: in the wide shot, Danny is holding the "grail" close to his chest. They moved it forward.
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« Reply #57 on Sept 8, 2008, 10:01am »


Sept 7, 2008, 5:58pm, iameye wrote:
Typewriter: UnderWood,Larry, diillusioned pop star B ;)


"Baby, can you dig your man?
He's a righteous man
Baby, can you dig your man?"

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« Reply #58 on Sept 8, 2008, 10:13am »


Sept 8, 2008, 7:29am, iameye wrote:

Sept 7, 2008, 5:50pm, B wrote:
P(D)enny La(i)ne wrote:
"...could Kubrick have been telling us to have a look at a red DRUM?"


The symbolism apparently transcends the movie. In this video:

The Shining - Kubrick - The making of Shining (part2/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4GMrNTA_HE

we see Mr. Kubrick feverishly typing away on an arguably yellow typewriter at 02:45.
It's part of the system of magic, apparently. It's not part of the film, but there it is!
So the magic is being done even beyond what's "in the show".




also, in this vid, it's Danny that has the Holy Grail ( for his ice cream!)


That is funny! I hadn't noticed!
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« Reply #59 on Sept 8, 2008, 10:23am »



[image]

Who's dead? Is that an "A"? Could that be a "P" on the left of the window? An "L" next to that
cross-shaped stain to the right? I can imagine I see a "U" pointed to by the three lights in the window....

See it in context: The Shining hallway scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmn6FRgYwBQ





maybe the lights ( not a reflection, I don't think so) have something to do w/ the three pillars of the eagle nebula? M16, the three pillars of creation? [image]
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Three gates?
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« Reply #60 on Sept 8, 2008, 10:46am »

Now that you mention it, compare this:

three pillars of creation?
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with the mirrors behind the bar (00:42):

Lloyd the Bartender scene 1, The shining
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0g1WUTuIQ8

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« Reply #61 on Sept 8, 2008, 10:52am »

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« Reply #62 on Sept 8, 2008, 11:06am »


Sept 8, 2008, 10:01am, P(D)enny La(i)ne wrote:

Sept 7, 2008, 5:58pm, iameye wrote:
Typewriter: UnderWood, Larry, diillusioned pop star B ;)


"Baby, can you dig your man?
He's a righteous man
Baby, can you dig your man?"

:D


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« Reply #63 on Sept 8, 2008, 11:56am »


Sept 8, 2008, 10:46am, B wrote:
Now that you mention it, compare this:

three pillars of creation?
[image]

with the mirrors behind the bar (00:42):

Lloyd the Bartender scene 1, The shining
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0g1WUTuIQ8



Well, if you'd overlay the Gold Room Bar with the Last Supper, Jack would be talking to Thomas the Apostle (who's face appears in the right window frame, corresponding to Lloyd as jacks mirror image in the right mirror behind the bar).

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Who was Thomas the Apostle?

* The Greek Didymus: in three of these passages (John 11:16; 20:24; and 21:2), Thomas is more specifically identified as "Thomas, also called the Twin (Didymus)".
* The Aramaic Tau'ma: the name "Thomas" itself comes from the Aramaic word for twin: T'oma (תאומא). Thus the name convention Didymus Thomas thrice repeated in the Gospel of John is in fact a tautology that omits the Twin's actual name.
* 'Didymus' or 'Didymos' is also the Greek name of the constellation Gemini, which some scholars believe to be associated with the Thomas, character in the Bible.

Other Names

The Nag Hammadi "sayings" Gospel of Thomas begins: "These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded." Syrian tradition also states that the apostle's full name was Judas Thomas, or Jude Thomas. Some have seen in the Acts of Thomas (written in east Syria in the early 3rd century, or perhaps as early as the first half of the 2nd century) an identification of Saint Thomas with the apostle Judas son of James, better known in English as Jude. However, the first sentence of the Acts follows the Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles in distinguishing the apostle Thomas and the apostle Judas son of James. Few texts identify Thomas' other twin, though in the Book of Thomas the Contender, part of the Nag Hammadi library, it is said to be Jesus himself: "Now, since it has been said that you are my twin and true companion, examine yourself…"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_(Apostle)

And this:

"The principal document concerning Saint Thomas is the Acta Thomae. If the place of its origin is really Edessa, this would lend considerable probability to the statement, made in Acta Thomae, that the relics of Apostle Thomas really came from the East. The legend may be judged from the fact that in more than one place it represents Saint Thomas (Judas Thomas, as he is called here and elsewhere in Syriac tradition) as the twin brother of Jesus. The Thomas in Syriac is equivalant to didymos in Greek which means twin. The story itself runs briefly as follows: At the division of the Apostles India fell to the lot of Thomas. When Thomas declared his inability to go Jesus appeared to Abban, the envoy of Gundafor an Indian king, and sold Thomas to Abban to be his slave and serve Gundafor as a carpenter. Abban and Thomas sailed to Andrapolis where they landed and attended the marriage feast of the ruler's daughter. Strange occurences followed and Christ under the appearence of Thomas exhorted the bride to remain a Virgin. Saint Thomas undertook to build a palace for Gundafor but was imprisoned after spending the money entrusted to him on the poor. The Apostle escaped miraculously and Gundafor was converted. Thomas journeyed to the city of King Misdai (Syriac Mazdai), where he converted Tertia's wife, Misdai, and his son, Vazan. Saint Thomas was condemed to death led out of city to a hill where he was pierced with spears by four soldiers. He was buried in the tomb of the ancient kings but his remains were afterwards removed to the West."

http://www.thesacredheart.com/sts/sthomas.htm

Keep in mind that Thomas as the twin of Jesus is controversial, but we're talking about ancient scriptures, so what isn't controversial?

So, if B is right, and Jack represents Faul, then the bar scene represents Faul talking to his own twin (JPM), or Jesus's Twin -- this is getting a bit confusing, actually. ;D

Oh, and I just stumbled across this, too:


"A SCOTS author claims to have gone one better than Dan Brown in solving history's greatest conspiracy theories.

Jack Lawson has promised the publication of his own novel will reveal the true secret behind the Da Vinci Code - that Jesus had a "twin brother" who was crucified in his place.

Though he is prepared to be derided as an "attention-seeking lunatic", the Glasgow-based writer professes to have verifiable proof that explains why Jesus was able to avoid the crucifixion and have children with Mary Magdalene."

More:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20071014/ai_n21074482
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« Reply #64 on Sept 8, 2008, 2:57pm »

And here's Grandfather Aleister's latest! ;D

Paul is Dead - 31 - HELP!
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« Reply #65 on Nov 14, 2008, 9:59pm »

Sneaker Pimps//Six Underground

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJSYzBqA9RA

Take me down, 6 underground,
The ground beneath your feet,
Laid out low, nothing to go
Nowhere a way to meet
Ive got a head full of drought,
Down here, so faroff losing out
Round here,

Overground, watch this space,
Im open to falling from grace

Calm me down, bring it round
Too way high off your street
I can see like nothing else
In me youre better than I wannabe
Dont think cos I understand,
I care, dont think cos Im talking were friends,

Overground, watch this space,
Im open to falling from grace

Talk me down, safe and sound
Too strung up to sleep
Wear me out, scream and shout
Swear my times never cheap
I fake my life like Ive lived
Too much, I take whatever you're given
Not enough,

Overground, watch this space,
Im open to falling from grace
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This commentary from the opening post video is troubling me:

"Kubrick
Polanski
McCartney
Lennon

when you do the algebra it makes sense

Turn Me On Dead Man"

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speak of the devil... ;D

Paul is Dead - 33
"Thirty three
watch the reflections
for the masks that the monsters wear,
the blackness of darkness forever
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1313"
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Y e l l o w S u b m a r i n e 2 0 0 9
Coincidence is the... alignment of two...events...without obvious causal connection.
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« Reply #68 on Jan 4, 2009, 5:32pm »

Personally, I think grandfatheraleister is MikeyNL. Their replies to the comments people leave on their respective videos are extremely similar. It adds up. No offense, Mikey. It's just what I think.
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I'd be surprised, given that MikeNL is alledgedly 18 years old, and no matter how much of a genius
he might be, he couldn't, at that tender age, have the insights that grandfatheraleister has;
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 Re: Grandfather Aleister's latest
« Reply #70 on Jan 4, 2009, 6:23pm »


Jan 4, 2009, 6:06pm, B wrote:
I'd be surprised, given that MikeNL is alledgedly 18 years old, and no matter how much of a genius
he might be, he couldn't, at that tender age, have the insights that grandfatheraleister has;
but then, that's just my opinion.

He's not actually 18. He lied about his age. This has been proven recently on Tafultong's blog
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« Reply #71 on Mar 7, 2009, 2:57pm »

Paul is Dead - 34 -"No One Does It to You like Roman Polanski"
"Follow the Beatles in front of the Dakota
1....2....3
The second one is bloody, where John Lennon was sacrificed.
Where was the fourth Beatle?
Following Magi k and Witchcraft"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1JBLBzvb2E
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Do you plan to record any anti-war songs? John: All our songs are anti-war
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYl1Y9L5g9chttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCtfx2jOyJ4
Maybe I'm amazed at the way you pulled me out of time.
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« Reply #72 on Mar 7, 2009, 4:18pm »

Roman is talking about picking the 666 number for the touchpad in the movie "The Ninth Gate," saying it was an afterthought, and
"I didn't expect that some people would pick it up."

I propose that this is a specific lie, and that as director he specifically intended for people to notice because of the way the scene is shot. The camera pans down from his face, specifically to his hand, showing a close-up of his thumb on the 6. The camera holds there while the actor slowly presses the 6..6..6. To say this was an afterthought and not intended is insulting to our collective intelligence, of which obviously Mr. Polanski feels we do not possess.

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Also, I don't have the capability to screen capture from the YouTube video, but it shows a distinct posed shot of Roman with the LEFT side of his face illuminated - LHP all the way.

So, Mr. Polanski, I say you are a lying sack of shit. Care to rebutt?

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« Reply #73 on Mar 8, 2009, 12:11am »


Mar 7, 2009, 2:57pm, B wrote:
Paul is Dead - 34 -"No One Does It to You like Roman Polanski"
"Follow the Beatles in front of the Dakota
1....2....3
The second one is bloody, where John Lennon was sacrificed.
Where was the fourth Beatle?
Following Magi k and Witchcraft"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1JBLBzvb2E


Behold a "Pale Horse"? (voice by Mia Farrow, she with the 4th Beatle coming down the road behind her shoulder)


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« Reply #74 on Mar 29, 2009, 6:51am »

I didn't understand this one at all. What is the connection to these two men? They acted in two different movies? I'm lost. ::)
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