Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #50 on Dec 16, 2006, 7:35pm »
Lili wrote: "I just commented on all 3 Da Beatles Code videos. The thing is, the comments aren't visible yet. I wish I knew how long it takes them to update that."
Well someone named "Truthseeker47" posted 8 hours ago, but it's at the bottom of the comments.
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Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #51 on Dec 20, 2006, 2:49am »
iamaphoney, you pointed out a car drives through Faul's head in Strawberry Fields. Well, the same thing happens in I Am The Walrus--a white car drives through his head.
Also in IATW, it appears the Beatles may have been making references to coast of France. There are the three walls, the twin-engine plane, the surgeon (eggman) with a mustache like Hitler... All seemingly hints of the strategic location used during WWII.
Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #53 on Dec 20, 2006, 5:35pm »
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interesting stuff so far, thanks for remind i need to regropup sooftware and youtube again...
what is your source for the mccartney/manson meeting?
The 1234567 timeline is striking, but I believe this is widely understood to have been an established nursery rhyme predating 1969. Not that it precludes a connection.
Quite obscure nursery rhyme. Too much of a "coincidence." I've read that Terry Melcher was a producer at Apple. Is this true? What is the source for McCartney meeting Manson in 1968? Did Faul visit the Beach Boys in California in 1968?
I think #12 is really a stretch... in fact I consider it invalid, but the guy's been hitting them out of the park, so an occassional miss is to be expected I suppose.
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Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #55 on Dec 21, 2006, 3:42am »
The Manson mccartney connection is based on a rumor from LA the summer of 1968. It is a fact that Macca did visit Beach boys that summer and it is a fact that Manson did record and lived in Dennis Wilsons house at the time, some people claimed that the saw M & M talking at a party at Brian Wilsons house and recording studio.But I will have to find people who was at the party to have it confirmed.
I think #12 is really a stretch... in fact I consider it invalid, but the guy's been hitting them out of the park, so an occassional miss is to be expected I suppose.
Do you mean it is a mistake. I agree that it is a bad quality film. But
Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #57 on Dec 21, 2006, 3:47am »
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interesting stuff so far, thanks for remind i need to regropup sooftware and youtube again...
what is your source for the mccartney/manson meeting?
The 1234567 timeline is striking, but I believe this is widely understood to have been an established nursery rhyme predating 1969. Not that it precludes a connection.
Quite obscure nursery rhyme. Too much of a "coincidence." I've read that Terry Melcher was a producer at Apple. Is this true? What is the source for McCartney meeting Manson in 1968? Did Faul visit the Beach Boys in California in 1968?
there are no evidence that 1234567 is a childrens song I have been looking all over at I have nothing on that rhyme. Only manson and mccartney seems to know this rhyme
Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #60 on Dec 30, 2006, 9:53am »
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The Manson mccartney connection is based on a rumor from LA the summer of 1968. It is a fact that Macca did visit Beach boys that summer and it is a fact that Manson did record and lived in Dennis Wilsons house at the time, some people claimed that the saw M & M talking at a party at Brian Wilsons house and recording studio.But I will have to find people who was at the party to have it confirmed.
There is a Manson (GOP-benefiting false flag psy-ops) connection to the fake-assassination attempts on President Gerald Ford (another GOP-benefiting Faulse flag psy-op). Woody Allen wrote a satirical piece on the Manson/Gerald Ford attempts/CIA/Hoffa etc. bouillabaise called "Nefarious Times We Live In," published in The New Republic Magazine. Within five years they had managed to hook him up with Manson-Polanski linked Fia Pharrow !
Some more info:
Ford Assassin in Secret Service custody the night prior....
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: Ford Assassin in Secret Service custody the night prior....
"One was an acolyte of Charles Manson, the other a suburban mom who dabbled at the fringes of San Francisco's counterculture and served as an FBI informant.
Both still alive and serving prison sentences, they are scarcely footnotes now. But in September 1975 -- just 17 days apart -- Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme and Sara Jane Moore shook the country, already rattled by Watergate and the collapse of South Vietnam, with their attempts to assassinate President Gerald R. Ford.
Fromme [a Junior High School classmate of comedian/actor Phil Hartman, murdered by his wife ---beatlies], then 26, nicknamed for her high-pitched voice, was already known to journalists and police as a member of Manson's "family" when she got within two feet of Ford in a Sacramento park with a .45-caliber pistol the morning of Sept. 5. A Secret Service agent wrestled the gun from the waiflike (5-foot-3, 120 pounds) assailant before she could fire it.
Although Fromme, the daughter of an aeronautical engineer, was not implicated in the 1969 murders of actress Sharon Tate and six others that sent Manson and several followers to prison for life, Fromme remained a devotee. She briefly escaped from the federal prison in Alderson, W.Va., in 1987 after hearing rumors that Manson had cancer.
Moore, then 45, was even more familiar to authorities before she pulled a .38-caliber revolver from her purse and fired a single errant shot as Ford emerged from the St. Francis Hotel in San Francisco on Sept. 22.
An accountant and the mother of a 9-year-old son, Moore had volunteered to help Randolph A. Hearst with a food-giveaway program he established to help free his daughter Patricia from her kidnappers, the Symbionese Liberation Army [US Gov-run Faulse Flag CIA Front like "al-Qaida"] . Moore's work put her in touch with members of the radical left, and when the job ended, the FBI contacted her. For the next year, she passed information to the bureau.
More remarkably, Moore was in Secret Service custody the night before the shooting. She had been picked up by San Francisco police on weapons charges but was released.
Neither woman was on the Secret Service's list of "active" security threats, and the attempts on Ford's life spurred questions about the agency's procedures. A Secret Service spokeswoman, citing policy, declined this week to discuss changes made in presidential protection as a result of the 1975 incidents.
Within four months of their arrests, Moore and Fromme were tried, convicted and sentenced to life terms.
Moore, who also escaped for a few hours in 1979, will be 77 in February and is eligible for release in September from her low-security federal prison in Dublin, Calif., according to the U.S. Parole Commission. That could change if the commission finds further serious institutional misconduct or determines that she is likely to commit another crime.
Fromme, now 58, is at the Federal Medical Center Carswell near Fort Worth, a facility that specializes in mental health and medical care for female inmates. Because her escape occurred with stricter federal sentencing guidelines in effect, she has no current release date, a commission spokesman said yesterday."
Tid bit....Patty Hearst was also held in Dublin, CA, which is a stones throw from an Army base.
Rockefeller was his VP, with some mystery surrounding his death in '79. Both Prescott and George Bush make some interesting appearances in this write up.
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Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #64 on Jan 6, 2007, 5:20pm »
One song where I recall hearing a message addressed to the devil was in "Getting Better". (Or maybe it was "Got To Get You Into My Life", although I thought that one had something about smoking marijuana.) Anyway, in reverse is sung something like, "My sweet Satan". It's been a while since I listened to it though, and seems to be only song to date which I heard such verse.
Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #66 on Jan 6, 2007, 7:05pm »
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Very graphic; gripping. But why have you mixed in Manson and Aleister Crowley?
The Paul is dead conspiracy spread out its arms and a finger is pointing at Crowley. Crowley invented a religion build on reverse speech,music and acts. Paul/Bill was a very big admire of his backwards practicemethod. MAGICK by Aleister Crowley page 482
Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #67 on Jan 6, 2007, 7:09pm »
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One song where I recall hearing a message addressed to the devil was in "Getting Better". (Or maybe it was "Got To Get You Into My Life", although I thought that one had something about smoking marijuana.) Anyway, in reverse is sung something like, "My sweet Satan". It's been a while since I listened to it though, and seems to be only song to date which I heard such verse.
IMO there is no message to satan - doesnt really sound like satan,eehh? it is something else
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Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #68 on Jan 6, 2007, 8:20pm »
It might have been "Good Day Sunshine". I know it was one of those upbeat, good-feeling, rocking, rag-time sort type of songs in the same vain as Getting Better or Got To Get You Into My Life.
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Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #69 on Jan 6, 2007, 9:10pm »
iamaphoney, are you sure that JPM was into Crowley? Because if so then personally I lose alot of respect for him and the Beatles as a whole. I recently watched a documentary on Crowley and the guy was a sick freak, he preformed practically every perverse sexual act possible... With anyTHING possible.
How anyone in right mind could consider that guy a "hero" or "role-model" is beyond my comprehension.
Oh, and because I don't want to clutter up the board with another topic, has anyone here who plays piano noticed the stylistic differences between Lady Madonna and Let It Be. I recently recieved a keyboard, and learned Let It Be in minutes, whereas I STILL cannot play Lady Madonna. Let It Be, on the other hand uses simplistic "bar-chords" for the right hand, and an easy bassline as well.
The problem here is that Lady Madonna was written in 1968, Let It Be was written in 1969, so... Did Paul lose some piano abilities over the course of a year or what?
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Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #70 on Jan 6, 2007, 9:55pm »
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iamaphoney, are you sure that JPM was into Crowley? Because if so then personally I lose alot of respect for him and the Beatles as a whole. I recently watched a documentary on Crowley and the guy was a sick freak, he preformed practically every perverse sexual act possible... With anyTHING possible.
How anyone in right mind could consider that guy a "hero" or "role-model" is beyond my comprehension.
Oh, and because I don't want to clutter up the board with another topic, has anyone here who plays piano noticed the stylistic differences between Lady Madonna and Let It Be. I recently recieved a keyboard, and learned Let It Be in minutes, whereas I STILL cannot play Lady Madonna. Let It Be, on the other hand uses simplistic "bar-chords" for the right hand, and an easy bassline as well.
The problem here is that Lady Madonna was written in 1968, Let It Be was written in 1969, so... Did Paul lose some piano abilities over the course of a year or what?
Hmmm. I don't know, Crowley really isn't my sort of thing.
Lady Madonna has a 8th note bass line that crawls around in A major in octaves. The right hand is a playful statement of the tune. (Concerning the intro). Practice the hands separately one at a time, then put them together, a measure at a time if necessary.
It isn't really hard but if a bit of walking counterpoint in the left hand is new to you, this is a good way to get started on that kind of figure.
Yes, Let it Be came in with the end of the '60s and the birth of the early seventies eight note ballad, (Barry Manilow, the Carpenters, REO Speedwagon, Air Supply, Peter Allen, so many others..... )where the right hand plays a sort of "We've Only Just Begun" figure with the left hand sitting on a whole note (in octaves again) one to a bar, mostly. You don't have to keep track of as much! The left hand is relatively inactive. Again, Lady Madonna is equally active in the two hands.
And all during these 1968 sessions, what WAS John Lennon REALLY doing?
Why, inventing the iPod, of course! Not since Al Gore!
Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #71 on Jan 7, 2007, 7:26am »
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iamaphoney, are you sure that JPM was into Crowley? Because if so then personally I lose alot of respect for him and the Beatles as a whole. I recently watched a documentary on Crowley and the guy was a sick freak, he preformed practically every perverse sexual act possible... With anyTHING possible.
How anyone in right mind could consider that guy a "hero" or "role-model" is beyond my comprehension.
Oh, and because I don't want to clutter up the board with another topic, has anyone here who plays piano noticed the stylistic differences between Lady Madonna and Let It Be. I recently recieved a keyboard, and learned Let It Be in minutes, whereas I STILL cannot play Lady Madonna. Let It Be, on the other hand uses simplistic "bar-chords" for the right hand, and an easy bassline as well.
The problem here is that Lady Madonna was written in 1968, Let It Be was written in 1969, so... Did Paul lose some piano abilities over the course of a year or what?
Hmmm. I don't know, Crowley really isn't my sort of thing.
Lady Madonna has a 8th note bass line that crawls around in A major in octaves. The right hand is a playful statement of the tune. (Concerning the intro). Practice the hands separately one at a time, then put them together, a measure at a time if necessary.
It isn't really hard but if a bit of walking counterpoint in the left hand is new to you, this is a good way to get started on that kind of figure.
Yes, Let it Be came in with the end of the '60s and the birth of the early seventies eight note ballad, (Barry Manilow, the Carpenters, REO Speedwagon, Air Supply, Peter Allen, so many others..... )where the right hand plays a sort of "We've Only Just Begun" figure with the left hand sitting on a whole note (in octaves again) one to a bar, mostly. You don't have to keep track of as much! The left hand is relatively inactive. Again, Lady Madonna is equally active in the two hands.
And all during these 1968 sessions, what WAS John Lennon REALLY doing?
Why, inventing the iPod, of course! Not since Al Gore!
Doc, the piano bass line and melody of "Lady Madonna" is a PLAGIARISM of the 1956 British swing hit "Bad Penny Blues."
"Let it Be" is a PLAGIARISM of the Bercaud 1950s hit "Let It Be Me."
during these 1968 sessions, what WAS John Lennon REALLY doing?
Was John Lennon even alive? What was Charlie Brill doing?
From an amazon review of an album featruing Humpherey Lyttleton:
"I'm no jazz fan anymore than John Lennon was-yet he once named Bad Penny Blues as the only jazz he could listen to.In 1968 this 1956 instrumental was the main influence behind Lady Madonna. Me I like instrumentals from the Golden Age-Duane Eddy,Sandy Nelson,Link Wray,the Ventures etc. And Bad Penny Blues is to my mind the greatest instrumental EVER. Hrearing this at the time you never wanted it to end-that beautifully dry percussion sound,the muted trumpet,the piano riff-you could fall into it. The disc was produced by somebody called Dennis Lansdowne who had a studio and it was engineered by a young Joe Meek a few years away from his own take on pop music.In his biog it mentions things he added to it which were not to the jazzmans liking but it went out anyway as it was thank God Lyttleton is a British institution-a very clever guy who was once a cartoonist and managed to keep the same wife.Makes a guy feel inferior but there you go. He should have been knighted long ago"
Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #72 on Jan 7, 2007, 9:42am »
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iamaphoney, are you sure that JPM was into Crowley? Because if so then personally I lose alot of respect for him and the Beatles as a whole. I recently watched a documentary on Crowley and the guy was a sick freak, he preformed practically every perverse sexual act possible... With anyTHING possible.
How anyone in right mind could consider that guy a "hero" or "role-model" is beyond my comprehension.
Oh, and because I don't want to clutter up the board with another topic, has anyone here who plays piano noticed the stylistic differences between Lady Madonna and Let It Be. I recently recieved a keyboard, and learned Let It Be in minutes, whereas I STILL cannot play Lady Madonna. Let It Be, on the other hand uses simplistic "bar-chords" for the right hand, and an easy bassline as well.
The problem here is that Lady Madonna was written in 1968, Let It Be was written in 1969, so... Did Paul lose some piano abilities over the course of a year or what?
I am sorry to ruin your respect for the beatles. But they were very into Crowley.
Look at sgt pepper and magical mystery tour
It have crowley written all over it.
John Lennon, in an interview, says the "whole idea of the Beatles was Aliester Crowley's idea, "do what thou wilt"
the Beatles' album was dedicated to Satanist Aleister Crowley. It was released 20 years, to the day, after Crowley's death in 1947, and its title song began with the lyrics, "It was twenty years ago today..." The album's cover featured a picture of Crowley. Paul McCartney said of Sgt. Pepper's cover: we were going to have photos on the wall of all our heroes.
Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #73 on Jan 7, 2007, 9:54am »
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iamaphoney, are you sure that JPM was into Crowley? Because if so then personally I lose alot of respect for him and the Beatles as a whole. I recently watched a documentary on Crowley and the guy was a sick freak, he preformed practically every perverse sexual act possible... With anyTHING possible.
How anyone in right mind could consider that guy a "hero" or "role-model" is beyond my comprehension.
Oh, and because I don't want to clutter up the board with another topic, has anyone here who plays piano noticed the stylistic differences between Lady Madonna and Let It Be. I recently recieved a keyboard, and learned Let It Be in minutes, whereas I STILL cannot play Lady Madonna. Let It Be, on the other hand uses simplistic "bar-chords" for the right hand, and an easy bassline as well.
The problem here is that Lady Madonna was written in 1968, Let It Be was written in 1969, so... Did Paul lose some piano abilities over the course of a year or what?
I am sorry to ruin your respect for the beatles. But they were very into Crowley.
Look at sgt pepper and magical mystery tour
It have crowley written all over it.
John Lennon, in an interview, says the "whole idea of the Beatles was Aliester Crowley's idea, "do what thou wilt"
the Beatles' album was dedicated to Satanist Aleister Crowley. It was released 20 years, to the day, after Crowley's death in 1947, and its title song began with the lyrics, "It was twenty years ago today..." The album's cover featured a picture of Crowley. Paul McCartney said of Sgt. Pepper's cover: we were going to have photos on the wall of all our heroes.
Re: The rotten apple 2 « Reply #74 on Jan 7, 2007, 11:40am »
iamaphoney wrote:
"I am sorry to ruin your respect for the beatles. But they were very into Crowley. Look at sgt pepper and magical mystery tour It have crowley written all over it."
Other than Crowley's face on Sgt. Pepper, I see nothing to support that statement.
"John Lennon, in an interview, says the "whole idea of the Beatles was Aliester Crowley's idea, "do what thou wilt""
Yes, that is 1/2 of Crowley's most famous statement, and the basic reason for his popularity: he advocated an individual, independent approach to life, and the pursuit of arcane knowledge.
the Beatles' album was dedicated to Satanist Aleister Crowley. It was released 20 years, to the day, after Crowley's death in 1947, and its title song began with the lyrics, "It was twenty years ago today..."
No, there's no evidence to support the claim that Sgt Pepper is dedicated to "satanist" Aleister Crowley, or anyone else for that matter. None, as far as I know. Sgt Pepper may have been released on the twentieth anniversary of Crowley's death. That proves absolutely nothing. Even if it was released on the date of his death purposefully, that doesn't mean that the Beatles were "satanists", or that "Sgt. Pepper" is Crowley, or that the album is dedicated to him. Don't misunderstand. I get what's being inferred, but if even we allow for the idea that the Beatle lyrics are about Crowley, whose spirit started teaching the Sgt. Pepper band to play when the Beatles would have been about 4 to 7 years old, it was not necessarily a satanic endeavor, regardless. I know: living as he did, Crowley would rightly have "gone to hell". And if the Beatles (or alledgedly the Beatles) had been taught by Crowley's spirit how to "learn to play" (live independently), then they might have chosen to honor his advocacy of living freely with Pepper. But to suggest that the Sgt Pepper lyrics are an advocacy of satanic practise is a stretch, and the link is too tenuous to be provable in any case.
The album's cover featured a picture of Crowley.
And about 70 other people.
Paul McCartney said of Sgt. Pepper's cover: we were going to have photos on the wall of all our heroes.
Bill said that. Why is Crowley so well known and, in some ways, admired to this day? Because he was a deviant and alledgedly a satanist? No. He is respected for his writings on arcane subjects, and his advocacy of the independent pursuit of life's mysteries. He's respected for his advocacy of the personal freedom to live life as one sees fit. If the Beatles were "the whole idea" of that principal, it doesn't mean they were advocates of satanism, regardless of what BS you might read on some sites that try to make the Beatles into devil-worshippers. The Beatles may have been about "do what you want to do, and go where you're going to; think for yourself..." I believe they were also about something much bigger than that, but nothing "satanic".
If you were to make an argument for Led Zepellin devoting albums to Crowley, you'd probably get less of an argument from me. It was on one of their albums that the "my sweet satan" speech reversal is heard. It is not heard on any Beatle song, to the best of my knowledge.
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