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Post by JoJo on Sept 26, 2006 17:21:36 GMT -5
Got a hold of a Lou Reed Bio, and while there are no pictures of the cover of the Pepperpots album, it does confirm that what Pickwick was up to with this album, due to its seeming similarity in purpose. (make a knock off look like the real thing) Is that the lesson here, dunno..    The Roughnecks album that looked "suspiciously like the Beatles" is this:  And from this web site, it says: Yeah Yeah Yeah
Arf! Arf! Cheep! Cheep! AACC 075, USA, 1999
Includes You're Driving Me Insane by The Roughnecks.
Also released in Japan by MSI in 1999 (cat. # MSIF2678).Now, lookie here, yet another name for the group of guys on the Pepperpots cover:  Again from the above site: The Ostrich [2:25]
(Reed - Sims - Vance - Phillips)
Sneaky Pete
(Reed - Sims - Vance - Phillips)
The Primitives
7 inch single, Dickwick City DC-9001
Repro of Primitives 45 in new picture sleeve - the record is an imitation of the original Pickwick label and logo, but with "pickwick" spelled "dickwick" and catalog number is thus reworked as DC-9001...Still not confirmed really that Lou was on the cover, (as a Pepperpot/Primitive/whatever else) but the bio goes on to tell of how Lou was hoping to turn "The Ostrich" into a big hit, and lift Pickwick out of the "churn and burn" business. I think it's clear that Lou and a small group of others wrote pretty much all the Pickwick stuff, and they did have a fondness for pseudonyms. Again, hard to say whether Lou is on the Pepperpot cover, although there is a lot that points to it.. How does this merge with the Gary Shepherd story, (comments Gary?) and more importantly, what does this mean for the Pepperpots story, where does it lead, if anywhere? |
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Post by fourthousandholes on Sept 26, 2006 19:32:26 GMT -5
"The agent of this first step on Lou's path to becoming a songwriter was none other than Lou's old friend from Syracuse, and manager of LA and the EL Dorados, Don Schupak"Remember someone says " Eldorado!" in Revolution 9. Musicland=PEPPERland?  Great find, JoJo. I think you're hot on the trail!
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Post by JoJo on Sept 26, 2006 21:05:03 GMT -5
Hah we'll see.. It's fun regardless. Lou went on to form The Velvet Underground.. Wikipedia: The foundations for what would become The Velvet Underground were laid in late 1964. Lou Reed had performed with a few short-lived garage bands and had worked as a songwriter for Pickwick Records, a job Reed described as "a poor man's Carole King". Reed met John Cale, a Welshman who had moved to the United States to study classical music. Cale had worked with John Cage and La Monte Young, but was also interested in rock music. (Young's use of extended drones would be a profound influence on the early Velvets' sound). The pair rehearsed and performed together, and their partnership and shared interests steered the early direction of what would become the Velvet Underground.
Reed's first group with Cale was The Primitives, a short-lived group assembled to support a Reed-penned single, "The Ostrich". Reed and Cale recruited Sterling Morrison – a college classmate of Reed's who had already played with him a few times – to play guitar, and Angus MacLise joined on percussion. This quartet was first called The Warlocks, then The Falling Spikes.
The Velvet Underground was a book about sadomasochism by Michael Leigh that Reed found when he moved into his New York City apartment (left by previous tenant Tony Conrad). Reed and Morrison have reported the group liked the name, considering it evocative of "underground cinema," and fitting, due to Reed's already having written "Venus In Furs", inspired by Leopold von Sacher-Masoch's book of the same name, also dealing with sadomasochism. The band immediately and unanimously adopted the book's title for its new name. |
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Post by Valis on Sept 26, 2006 22:00:43 GMT -5
I'll be your mirror-Velvet Underground 1966
I'll be your mirror
Reflect what you are, in case you don't know
I'll be the wind, the rain and the sunset
The light on your door to show that you're home
When you think the night has seen your mind
That inside you're twisted and unkind
Let me stand to show that you are blind
Please put down your hands
'Cause I see you
I find it hard to believe you don't know
The beauty you are
But if you don't
Let me be your eyes
A hand in your darkness, so you won't be afraid
When you think the night has seen your mind
That inside you're twisted and unkind
Let me stand to show that you are blind
Please put down your hands
'Cause I see you
I'll be your mirror
(reflect what you are)
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I used to live in a room full of mirrors
All I could see was me
So hologrammic my TVC 15
So demonic my STS 115
Magisches Theater
Eintritt nicht fur Jedermann nur fur Verruckte
Eintritt kostet den Verstand
It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors
Goo Goo Ga Joob
All Love Alowishus Devadander Abercrombie
That's long for Jan so I've been told
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Post by lili on Sept 27, 2006 11:46:38 GMT -5
Great post, Jan. Goo goo ga joob indeed ! I didn't know that those were the lyrics to TVC 15. I started researching the lyrics to Bowie's songs, but I got sidetracked.   |
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Post by JoJo on Oct 1, 2006 14:25:35 GMT -5
Lou made a CD using Poe's works, which reminds me of a similar project by Alan Parsons, except that Lou adds his own lines. BookCDCurious.. |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Oct 3, 2006 22:57:09 GMT -5
I found a group called the Primitives on youtube. Though I'm not sure they're the same group alluded to earlier in this thread. They might have actually had something. but they kind of fell apart. Mal & The Primitives--YeeehThe band was formed in 1964 and disbanded in 1965. The group's lineup consisted of Jay Roberts (born Jeffrey Farthing) on lead vocals, Geoff Eaton (born Geoff Tindall) on lead guitar, John E. Soul on rhythm guitar and blues harp, Roger James on bass, and Mike Wilding on drums. Roger James is the guy I found most interesting, he left in 1965 to form the Roger James Four and appearantly they recorded a couple singles for Colombia. ( I don't know what happened to him after that.) In the "Yeeeh" video, you can see Roger is a tall, lanky sort of fellow. The sequence with their singer on the raised plateform and the others hanging around below, in a way it kind of reminds me of-- dare I say--the "Strawberry Fields" video!? (I'm not sure I see any obvious connection with the Beatles, but I found the video and their history interesting).By the way, at the very end of the video is a snapshot of a girl. She looks to me like Marianne Faithfull. The Primitive's Story. M&P - Fateli Tacere |
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