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Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #75 on Jul 24, 2006, 3:51pm »
When I saw that goofy missin'-tooth pic I had to do somethin' with it.... I'd been out workin' in the yard all afternoon listening to The Fireman thru the ear-buds, &..... well.... one thing lead to another!
Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #78 on Jul 27, 2006, 9:20am »
The fade is making his ears seem to "flap" like Dumbo's ! It's amazing that people don't notice that Bill's face is longer, & his ears are closer to his head ! John even sang it in " I am the walrus" - " Man you've been a naughty boy you let your FACE GROW LONG ! "
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Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #80 on Jul 30, 2006, 5:31pm »
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NWO plan is not necessarily evil.
Could you remind us again how killing five billion people isn't evil?
Thanks.
Perhaps it's best understood if one believes... "..Living is easy with eyes closed. Misunderstanding all you see."
How one could think NWO is not necessarily evil can only mean they don't believe it's real or they are part of it. I'm inclined to believe the former rather than the latter.
Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #81 on Nov 28, 2006, 9:28pm »
That was priceless. You've just inspired BonJilly to work on it as soon as he can get his hands on photoshop. We have 3 computers in my house, but don't have a photoshop program in any of them. BTW, BonJilly is one of my "adopted" kids.
Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #82 on Aug 15, 2007, 7:37pm »
I was listening to Fireman 93 earlier today. I could swear that I hear someone say " Bill" or " Billy" a few times. I was listening to it in the car, and the kids also heard someone say, " guilty" a few times. Someone should listen to that album on the computer, so that they can slow it down & rewind it when necessary. I found it interesting, since it was recorded before the internet caused a resurgence of interest in PID.
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Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #83 on Aug 15, 2007, 8:52pm »
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I was listening to Fireman 93 earlier today. I could swear that I hear someone say " Bill" or " Billy" a few times. I was listening to it in the car, and the kids also heard someone say, " guilty" a few times. Someone should listen to that album on the computer, so that they can slow it down & rewind it when necessary. I found it interesting, since it was recorded before the internet caused a resurgence of interest in PID.
can't say I've ever noticed that... I'll have to check that out, I'll play it in the new grampsmobile with the kickass moster thumper stereo... I hear all kinds of stuff I've never noticed before in that car. Too bad... I've already done my slow sunset cruise with the stereo cranked up & thumpin for this evening................
Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #84 on Aug 16, 2007, 7:12am »
Damn... You got that kind of action, you need to check out some Floyd. Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here & A Momentary Lapse of Reason comes to mind... Bet you hear stuff that I can't hear on my cars little rinky dink stereo !
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Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #85 on Aug 16, 2007, 3:35pm »
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That is very interesting. So, was King Solomon "made up" ? Or was his family of Egyptian origin
Most likely a situation where the "real" meaning is supposed to be kept hidden from the "profane", perhaps there was never a King Solomon as such.
I am just getting started on this thread, thanks to mommybird. There is a minefield here. Expect more from me after this.
JoJo your comment about Solomon makes think of the interpretation of Maxwell's Silver Hammer where you can peel back the vulgar meaning on the surface to reveal the gem hidden in plain sight.
The mystery dramas of Freemasonry are based on events surrounding the construction of Solomon's temple to Yahweh. As to the question of Solomon being of Egyptian origin - consider that before Solomon's time there was Moses, who was raised as Egyptian royalty, fully versed in the arts. When Moses led the Children of Israel out of Egypt, he established his religion in the desert. There can be no surprise at all to find the imprint of Egypt all over it, and subsequently to find Egypt permeating all the legends of Solomon.
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Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #86 on Aug 16, 2007, 3:37pm »
That www.fire-man.com web site is an enigma isn't it? Here is the whois record for fire-man.com:
Registrant: EMI (IP) LIMITED 27 WRIGHTS LANE LONDON, LONDON w8 5sw UK
Domain Name: FIRE-MAN.COM
Administrative Contact : EMI (IP) LIMITED webadmin@virginmusic.com 27 WRIGHTS LANE LONDON, LONDON w8 5sw UK Phone: +44.2077957313 Fax: +44.20777957314
Technical Contact : ioko, infocom emiweb@ioko365.com Innovation Close York Science Park York, YO10 5ZD UK Phone: +44 01904 435409 Fax: +44 01904 435450
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Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #87 on Aug 16, 2007, 5:02pm »
Mommybird, I gotta hand it to you, I have tried to make out what's being said underneath the strange beats and sound effects with little success. The voices are often robotic sounding, perhaps a vocoder was used?
As I think I mentioned before, a predominant sample in many of the tracks says: "I think I sense the situation", which is from the Back to the Egg track "The Broadcast". (the "Max Headroom" effects use this line a lot)
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JoJo your comment about Solomon makes think of the interpretation of Maxwell's Silver Hammer where you can peel back the vulgar meaning on the surface to reveal the gem hidden in plain sight.
Heh I think I was immersing myself in Manly P. Hall's writings at the time. If you can spring for the large size, worth it: The Secret Teachings of All Ages. Worth it just for the chapter on cyphers in Shakespear's writings.
"It is quite possible that societies - much like individuals - collectively repress information, concepts, and ideas which would produce high anxiety levels if dealt with consciously."
Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #89 on Aug 16, 2007, 11:40pm »
I have been reading the book McCartney by Christopher Standford. He has some info on the fireman web cast:
On 2 Oct 1998 several thousand INTERNET surfers turned in to a "cyber promotional party" for the Fireman album Rushes,a collection of rapping,animal tapes, and phone sex with a light chill out accompaniment. They were entertained by the Fireman himself dressed for the occasion in a yellow rain hat, black hood and sunglasses,singing a medley of free-form numbers which were looped and treated by the nearby Youth. The broadcast footage was liberally interspersed with rather full images of nude women, About half way through the performance, the host sat on a couch and took questions from the audience and colleagues, among them:
Q What does Rushes music desire to symbolize to the people? A Rushes desires only the fertility of the imagination
Q What initially inspired these recordings? A Inspiration is derived form the cosmic creative force of the universal fire
How do you classify your music? A Ambient dreams in rainbow arches describes the circles of the Fireman.
Q What is the significance of the naked woman on the inner sleeve of Rushes? A The symbolism of the unknown nude is an ancient mystery. We do not have her number. Q What moved you to do this album? A Night skies,flowing streams and whipped cream fire extinguishers.
Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #90 on Aug 17, 2007, 10:21am »
Lenmac, that is so strange. By the Fireman, you do mean Sir Paul ? LR, you do have a point:
I was more than happy to turn you onto this, Jarv. I figured that it was right up your alley.
Jo, I'm having fun listening to this CD. So far, I have transcribed through the 3rd track. I did listen to tracks 4 & most of 5. Most of track 4 is music. Track 5 has some interesting stuff on it. I will be posting some more of what I heard a little later. It takes time & patience, but I'm hearing things that I feel might be PID related.
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Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #92 on Aug 17, 2007, 12:55pm »
(Thanks mb for all your transcribing work; it is no small effort.)
On Rushes, Track #5 is called Appletree Cinnabar Amber.
Cinnabar is mercury ore. The mercury is extracted by heating the crushed ore until the mercury boils off as a gas. The gas is passed through a still where the mercury cools and reverts to liquid.
The Greek word for amber is elektron. Our modern word "electricity" is derived from the word "elektron," because rubbing amber causes it to accumulate an electric charge.
So Cinnabar Amber is code for Mercury Electricity. When you pass an electric current through the mercury gas released by the cinnabar, you get light.
Appletree Cinnabar Amber is really Appletree of Light, or in other words, the Tree of Knowledge.
Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #94 on Aug 17, 2007, 2:04pm »
I just put the CD into the Window's Media Player. It caused me to realize that this is the album that I've been transcribing:
Strawberries Oceans Ships Forest From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Strawberries Oceans Ships Forest
Studio album by The Fireman Released 15 November 1993 (UK) 14 February 1994 (US) Recorded 1978 & 1992 Genre Electronic Length 77:01 Label Parlophone/EMI Producer The Fireman Professional reviews All Music Guide (3/5) link Robert Christgau link
The Fireman chronology Strawberries Oceans Ships Forest (1994) Rushes (1998)
Strawberries Oceans Ships Forest is a 1993 ambient electronic album by The Fireman, a pseudonym for Paul McCartney and producer Youth.
The album consists of McCartney material, mostly from his Off the Ground album and samples of "Reception" and "The Broadcast" from 1979's Back to the Egg, remixed by Youth. Neither McCartney nor Youth are credited on the album; rumours of McCartney's involvement were eventually confirmed by EMI.
Strawberries Oceans Ships Forest, which never charted, is no longer in print.
I'm now listening to this with brand new headphones. It lends a whole new dimension to the experience. This album is very interesting. It's a shame that it's out of print. I'm probably going to relisten to the whole thing. This means that I'll be changing the transcript . As anyone knows, you can hear alot more when you listen with headphones on.
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Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #95 on Aug 17, 2007, 4:29pm »
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I'm now listening to this with brand new headphones. It lends a whole new dimension to the experience. This album is very interesting. It's a shame that it's out of print.
This dialog on the 93 cd is buried enough I never paid it much attention before... The dialog on Rushes is more up front & catches my ear most of the time. But you got some good ears mommybird. I played some of it last night but I had Leona with me so I couldn't get too into it. I think headphones would be the best way to transcribe this. My car isn't the best choice coz that sub woofer tends to get in the way a little when it comes to trying to understand the dialog.
This S.O.S.F. cd is a trip. At 1st it seems like an overly repetitive & rather simple & monotonous release, but the more you listen to it, the more stuff you start to notice. The dialog is so buried, it's almost like part of the music at times.
I took this & made a 1-long-track version for the mp3 player, but in doing so I also eliminated the space between the tracks with some editing & cross fading. I think this greatly improved this album. With the spaces between the tracks I was like "oh here we go again" at the start of each track. But after my creative editing it's like one long flowing piece... much better.
Hey Fireman... if ya ever check in... ya might wanna consider doin' this on a S.O.S.F. re-release!!
Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #96 on Aug 17, 2007, 6:58pm »
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I took this & made a 1-long-track version for the mp3 player, but in doing so I also eliminated the space between the tracks with some editing & cross fading. I think this greatly improved this album. With the spaces between the tracks I was like "oh here we go again" at the start of each track. But after my creative editing it's like one long flowing piece... much better.
Hey Fireman... if ya ever check in... ya might wanna consider doin' this on a S.O.S.F. re-release!!
That was a great idea. If you ever get the inclination, could you cut me a copy of it ? My daughter & her friends would love it ! They're amazed by that CD. It seems that Sir Paul & his friends stumbled across the Techno/House formula WAAAAAYYYYY before it's time ! I find it interesting how he uses the "Terminator" sound throughout S.O.S. F. And Fireman, you should listen to eyesbleed. He knows from which he speaks !
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Re: Sir Paul, the Fireman « Reply #98 on Aug 17, 2007, 8:11pm »
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No one finds the idea that he denies being a mason interesting? Not saying he is or he isn't, just the fact that he addresses it at all should make you wonder.. Who was was saying it in the first place?
"The fireman is no mason."
Fascinating.
It just occurred to me that a mason is a jar. Eleanor Rigby's face comes from a jar by the door, which is funny because the door itself might be ajar. A jar can also be a shock or a jolt, which is funny because a jolt of electricity can be captured and stored in a contraption called a Leyden Jar.
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