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Post by seasaltcaramel on Aug 29, 2012 20:40:52 GMT -5
What happens if one of the Paul McCartneys dies?It would be catastrophic. Re: talent, that's up for interpretation of course. Although I believe an expert identified 2-3 Pauls in the later Beatles' album/s. I've also heard that 'Faul' relied heavily on session musicians in his solo work. To me, John's solo work is much better than Faul's.
Re: eye socket surgery. Sure it's possible, they'd reshape it. The eye just rests in the socket. [/color] really [/quote] ... mccartney 2. he played all the instruments you know. his eye does rest in a socket. in fact eyes rest in sockets. you dont want your eyes to pop out. but... when paul was beaten by "a truncheon thing" and ended up bloated and blue like a walrus his eyes had popped out. such beautiful imagery. but it masks such a horrible horrible reality. popped out eyes and the image of a dead child with words etched into it's flesh. its this sort of imagery and paranoia that keeps us tied down - theres no need to be the cesspool of the universe. unless you want to be jesus. trapped inside some thought ghetto from which there is no foreseeable escape. trapped. trapped like rats. its a choice to get into that state once youve gotten out of it and recognize it - tradition doesnt out-weigh logic and theres no real equilibrium between the two. as david byrne says: "say something once why say it again?" granted this is from "pyscho killer" so its no the most rational statement. but by traditional standards the phrase "stop making sense" is provoking irrationality and insanity. the world is insane with fetishes no doubt and all the violence and bullshit is directed accordingly. the world isnt necessarily more insane than it has been - its insane in the same ways although now the undertones and overtones are getting reinforcement and the less resonant modes and thoughts and cultures are disappearing. because... "you cannot compell the silence to cease". and theres a spirit that goes along with that thought and that realization. most people read over words and writings have more to do with rhythms and waterfalls. its possible to hypnotise with the written word. its almost impossible not to hypnotise with the written word. especially with blocks of words and sentences with very little space between ideas. no room to organize. thats "the concept" at least. ive bad the experience of reading and noticing i havent understood a single sentence for ten minutes. i was somewhere else in that quasi-dream state. the house of the seven gables doesnt work with the state. it doesnt ask you to put anything into the story. the scene has been set and youre watching - as a voyuer. the vision of a port remains. music is perhaps the only way an insanenperson can express their insanity and let it bleed into the culture and act as a vaccine. like the bacteria "the scabs" are pumping into the boston subway system - or as its affectionately known - something or other but not MBTA because well thats an authority not a place.
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Post by iameye on Aug 29, 2012 21:49:56 GMT -5
It’s possible the clues could also be eluding to things other than (just) Paul dying. That quote caught my eye.. and if i morph it just a little, it gets me thinking... It’s possible the clues could be eluding to something other than Paul dying.what could those things be? I'm certain many of you have already developed ideas about this, nevertheless for my educational benefit, I'll try to map out something in the next couple of days. I hope! lol. Great post, and Best wishes to you linus! whoa, what? s180.photobucket.com/albums/x103/morffy/
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Post by beacon on Aug 30, 2012 5:25:06 GMT -5
I don't know whether PID is real or allegorical. I know the clues are real, despite the Beatles' earnest denials over the decades. But there was a radical change in Paul's image and personality after 1966. He went from a quiet and chic man - with a gregarious alter-ego (practically living in London clubs), to a domineering and crude man - with a retiring alter-ego (hiding out in farms and manors thereafter). The parting in his hair swapped from left to right. Paul always parted his hair from left-to-right, and 'Faul' always parted his hair right-to-left. It's said that he began using his right hand, when Paul was a straight lefty. Re: talent, that's up for interpretation of course. Although I believe an expert identified 2-3 Pauls in the later Beatles' album/s. I've also heard that 'Faul' relied heavily on session musicians in his solo work. To me, John's solo work is much better than Faul's. Re: eye socket surgery. Sure it's possible, they'd reshape it. The eye just rests in the socket. Re: your idea of PID as a gimmick to breathe new life into a dying band. That's bull. The Beatles were never bigger. Creatively they may have stalled. That quip with Jesus only effected the Bible Belt, and Lady Marcos the Philippines - a small market. Besides, the extent and the intricacy of the PID conspiracy is too ambitious. They carried on hiding PID clues in their solo work decades later. Paul or Faul is still hiding PID and BILL clues today. Re: John. Sure, they all dabbled in various drugs at one time or another. While John was receptive to Paul's / Faul's new musical direction ie psychedelics /heavy rock. But John was always the brains and talent of the group. They were all old school friends and a tight-knit group. I can't imagine they'd let an outsider - a replacement - come in and take over. I think Jessbottles hits the nail on the head, It’s possible the clues could be eluding to something other than Paul dying.The clues aren't about Paul dying at all. Maxwells point about them all being old school pals and not allowing an outsider in is hugely valid. Even if Paul did die and was replaced the recording credits were still listed as Lennon/McCartney, meaning either McCartneys 50% went to his family or the new guy, either way, George and Ringo would still be on considerably less. Whatever the talent or contribution of the new guy, surely the whole royalty pot would have been up for debate at this point, but it wasn't. Also, after the end of the Beatles touring days the whole thing becomes the McCartney show, he is the driving force for Sgt Pepper, MMT etc. There is no way the new guy would be given that kind of role. The funeral scene on the Sgt Pepper sleeve is a memorial to Tara Browne. I speculate about the relevance of the other Pepper clues in my book and I won't go into them here, suffice it to say, whether I am right or wrong, PID is a smokescreen that only serves to obscure the real meanings behind the clues. And to answer the question that this thread poses, if Paul McCartney dies - whoever he is - then the whole thing will unravel and begin to reveal itself, there will be no replacement. Anyone wonder why Geoff Baker suddenly showed up here the other week out of the blue? This whole thing has a time frame and maybe we are getting a bit too close to the truth for comfort and risk blowing that time frame. I don't know if he is still on the payroll or not but it was a bit weird to say the least.
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Post by linus on Aug 31, 2012 1:30:43 GMT -5
D'oh! I can't believe I said eluding rather than alluding Anyways, Maxwell, the intent of my post was to express that there was more of a segue from the Beatlemania era to the ‘67+ era than some people realize. And by "fatal blow to Beatlemania", I was implying to the Beatles themselves, not the fans. And again, I was just going by the official story. Which I should've known better than to do. "The Beatles were never bigger"That's basically what I was implying. I certainly don't believe PID clues were a just gimmick to breath new life into the band. Re: eye socket surgery. One wonders why they’d go to such a great extent to reshape his eye socket to make it look like Paul's did (sometimes), but forget to part his hair towards the left, or throw a wig on him. I can’t remember exactly when his world-class surgeons finally figured out how to part it on the left, I think it was in the early-80s. Either he had really careless surgeons and make-up artists, or they/he parted (or kept) his hair on the right for a specific reason. -Or there was no surgery, and he parted his hair on the right for a specific reason. -Or his hair decided on it’s own to gradually migrate from left to right, then back to the middle, then back to the right and eventually back to the left and everything in between, depending on which day it was. -Or he can’t make up his mind which way to part his hair. Was the parting on the right a Masonic or Occult tradition of some kind? Symbolizing the “new mind” (referred to in his last track on Revolver)? I don't know, food for thought. As far as the hair partings, the right/left handedness, the personality changes, the session musicians, vocal analysis and eye socket surgery: I encourage everyone to do a lot of your own objective research on those topics and more, you might be surprised at what you find. (I probably don't have to tell anyone on here that most of the major PIA and PID sites are full of a lot, and I mean a loooot, of BS, and are staggeringly unthorough, riddled with contradictions, and of course biased) One tip: the video of “Faul” playing the guitar right handed in India is flipped. You can tell by the………. hairpart!
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Aug 31, 2012 2:48:05 GMT -5
D'oh! I can't believe I said eluding rather than alluding Anyways, Maxwell, the intent of my post was to express that there was more of a segue from the Beatlemania era to the ‘67+ era than some people realize. And by "fatal blow to Beatlemania", I was implying to the Beatles themselves, not the fans. And again, I was just going by the official story. Which I should've known better than to do. "The Beatles were never bigger"That's basically what I was implying. I certainly don't believe PID clues were a just gimmick to breath new life into the band. Re: eye socket surgery. One wonders why they’d go to such a great extent to reshape his eye socket to make it look like Paul's did (sometimes), but forget to part his hair towards the left, or throw a wig on him. I can’t remember exactly when his world-class surgeons finally figured out how to part it on the left, I think it was in the early-80s. Either he had really careless surgeons and make-up artists, or they/he parted (or kept) his hair on the right for a specific reason. -Or there was no surgery, and he parted his hair on the right for a specific reason. -Or his hair decided on it’s own to gradually migrate from left to right, then back to the middle, then back to the right and eventually back to the left and everything in between, depending on which day it was. -Or he can’t make up his mind which way to part his hair. Was the parting on the right a Masonic or Satanic tradition of some kind? Symbolizing the “new mind” (referred to in his last track on Revolver)? I don't know, food for thought. As far as the hair part, the right/left handedness, the personality changes, the session musicians, vocal analysis and eye socket surgery: I encourage everyone to do a lot of your own objective research on those topics and more, you might be surprised what you find. (I probably don't have to tell anyone on here that most of the major PIA and PID sites are full of a lot, and I mean a loooot, of BS, and are staggeringly unthorough, riddled with contradictions, and of course biased) One tip: the video of “Faul” playing the guitar right handed in India is flipped. You can tell by the………. hairpart! - i think youre mistaking a hair part for "cow lick". my mother is a woman of hair and will cut it and established a business "hair piece" but no one got the reference so she changed it. you see mother is an expert in these fields. the hair does move about. a shower for instance. i assume you dont have long hair. perhaps you do. a cow lick is like genes but the part isnt. the part is a choice. for instance. hey bulldog. john tries to be the dude from the loving spoonful. then for the white album the parts in the center. for a period all he had was part and no hair. you people - i notice the hey bulldog similarity but... - there are limits. i have a question: do you really know what any of these people look like? i want to share something else. once a young woman was observing my testicles. this might seem over the top but it is absolutely true and isnt filthy - testicles arent filthy - inherently. as she pondered what was before he she spoke - the scrotum is moving by itself. nonsense i said. then she filmed it. and you know what? my scrotum WAS psychedelic. we slowed it down and saw what must have been 1000 muscles dancing. totally fluid and not once had i ever considered such a thing. the fruit of love. and it is psychedelic. we werent stoned. no need. see for yourself with a partner. its interesting to hear john and yoko discussing their smile film - they might as well have been describing my scrotum. if my ball sack can move like that every second paul mcartneys hair can part on the wrong side every now and then. id be embarassed to admit id gotten plastic surgery if i were a man. especially something called botox. i forgot the cheese.
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Post by linus on Aug 31, 2012 4:32:39 GMT -5
I wonder if there's any additional meaning to the lyrics,
Woke up, fell out of bed, dragged a comb across my head.
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Post by beacon on Aug 31, 2012 5:02:55 GMT -5
I wonder if there's any additional meaning to the lyrics, Woke up, fell out of bed, dragged a comb across my head. Possibly, but I am sure there is a grail reference in the line ' Found my way upstairs and drank a cup'.
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Post by iameye on Aug 31, 2012 5:21:37 GMT -5
I wonder if there's any additional meaning to the lyrics, Woke up, fell out of bed, dragged a comb across my head. Possibly, but I am sure there is a grail reference in the line ' Found my way upstairs and drank a cup'. downstairs
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Post by beacon on Aug 31, 2012 5:31:27 GMT -5
Possibly, but I am sure there is a grail reference in the line ' Found my way upstairs and drank a cup'. downstairsYou are quite right, downstairs it is - I stand corrected.
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Post by linus on Aug 31, 2012 14:25:41 GMT -5
Somebody (also) sprach, and I went into a dream.
Why she had to go, I don't know ...na na na, na....
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Post by linus on Aug 31, 2012 17:41:20 GMT -5
D'oh! I can't believe I said eluding rather than alluding ah! no worries there lol. I think Bob Ross said it best: "There are no mistakes, just happy accidents." i think in the F/Paul realm the two words may be interchangable no matter how carefully we try to unscramble it all. Good job, i really enjoy your posts Maybe it was a Freudian slip. (Why is he being so elusive below Bob Dylan?) And Seasalt, please tell us you aren't going to post that video in Youtube!
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Post by maxwell on Aug 31, 2012 17:52:41 GMT -5
D'oh! I can't believe I said eluding rather than alluding Anyways, Maxwell, the intent of my post was to express that there was more of a segue from the Beatlemania era to the ‘67+ era than some people realize. And by "fatal blow to Beatlemania", I was implying to the Beatles themselves, not the fans. And again, I was just going by the official story. Which I should've known better than to do. "The Beatles were never bigger"That's basically what I was implying. I certainly don't believe PID clues were a just gimmick to breath new life into the band. Re: eye socket surgery. One wonders why they’d go to such a great extent to reshape his eye socket to make it look like Paul's did (sometimes), but forget to part his hair towards the left, or throw a wig on him. I can’t remember exactly when his world-class surgeons finally figured out how to part it on the left, I think it was in the early-80s. Either he had really careless surgeons and make-up artists, or they/he parted (or kept) his hair on the right for a specific reason. -Or there was no surgery, and he parted his hair on the right for a specific reason. -Or his hair decided on it’s own to gradually migrate from left to right, then back to the middle, then back to the right and eventually back to the left and everything in between, depending on which day it was. -Or he can’t make up his mind which way to part his hair. Was the parting on the right a Masonic or Satanic tradition of some kind? Symbolizing the “new mind” (referred to in his last track on Revolver)? I don't know, food for thought. As far as the hair part, the right/left handedness, the personality changes, the session musicians, vocal analysis and eye socket surgery: I encourage everyone to do a lot of your own objective research on those topics and more, you might be surprised what you find. (I probably don't have to tell anyone on here that most of the major PIA and PID sites are full of a lot, and I mean a loooot, of BS, and are staggeringly unthorough, riddled with contradictions, and of course biased) One tip: the video of “Faul” playing the guitar right handed in India is flipped. You can tell by the………. hairpart! - i think youre mistaking a hair part for "cow lick". my mother is a woman of hair and will cut it and established a business "hair piece" but no one got the reference so she changed it. you see mother is an expert in these fields. the hair does move about. a shower for instance. i assume you dont have long hair. perhaps you do. a cow lick is like genes but the part isnt. the part is a choice. for instance. hey bulldog. john tries to be the dude from the loving spoonful. then for the white album the parts in the center. for a period all he had was part and no hair. you people - i notice the hey bulldog similarity but... - there are limits. i have a question: do you really know what any of these people look like? i want to share something else. once a young woman was observing my testicles. this might seem over the top but it is absolutely true and isnt filthy - testicles arent filthy - inherently. as she pondered what was before he she spoke - the scrotum is moving by itself. nonsense i said. then she filmed it. and you know what? my scrotum WAS psychedelic. we slowed it down and saw what must have been 1000 muscles dancing. totally fluid and not once had i ever considered such a thing. the fruit of love. and it is psychedelic. we werent stoned. no need. see for yourself with a partner. its interesting to hear john and yoko discussing their smile film - they might as well have been describing my scrotum. if my ball sack can move like that every second paul mcartneys hair can part on the wrong side every now and then. id be embarassed to admit id gotten plastic surgery if i were a man. especially something called botox. i forgot the cheese. Yes, the Beatle's musical segues or transitions were a big part of their appeal. No one knew what they'd come out with next. Paul's hair-parting is notable (unlike SeaSaltCaramel's ball sac) because he always parted it left-to-right prior to 1967, and almost always right-to-left thereafter. Which points to a major change in his personality, if not in his person. I'm leaning to the idea that PID symbolizes Paul's conversion to occultism, and possibly cosmetic surgeries. And that he continues to string out PID and Bill clues for creative and commercial reasons. The young, innocent Paul died, figuratively, only to be replaced by an older, less couth Paul. A raging coke habit may have helped ease Paul throughout that transition ...or segue. Having said that ... Paul's progeny lend credence to PID. The child that looks most like post-67 Paul is the illegitimate Bettina Krischbin - whose mother accused Paul of sending a right-handed imposter to a paternity test. While the only legitimate child who looks like Paul is Mary Anna McCartney. All the rest are redheads. PS., how can i upload an amusing avatar?
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Post by maxwell on Aug 31, 2012 18:05:41 GMT -5
What happens if one of the Paul McCartneys dies?It would be catastrophic. Re: talent, that's up for interpretation of course. Although I believe an expert identified 2-3 Pauls in the later Beatles' album/s. I've also heard that 'Faul' relied heavily on session musicians in his solo work. To me, John's solo work is much better than Faul's.
Re: eye socket surgery. Sure it's possible, they'd reshape it. The eye just rests in the socket. [/color] really [/quote] ... mccartney 2. he played all the instruments you know. his eye does rest in a socket. in fact eyes rest in sockets. you dont want your eyes to pop out. but... when paul was beaten by "a truncheon thing" and ended up bloated and blue like a walrus his eyes had popped out. such beautiful imagery. but it masks such a horrible horrible reality. popped out eyes and the image of a dead child with words etched into it's flesh. its this sort of imagery and paranoia that keeps us tied down - theres no need to be the cesspool of the universe. unless you want to be jesus. trapped inside some thought ghetto from which there is no foreseeable escape. trapped. trapped like rats. its a choice to get into that state once youve gotten out of it and recognize it - tradition doesnt out-weigh logic and theres no real equilibrium between the two. as david byrne says: "say something once why say it again?" granted this is from "pyscho killer" so its no the most rational statement. but by traditional standards the phrase "stop making sense" is provoking irrationality and insanity. the world is insane with fetishes no doubt and all the violence and bullshit is directed accordingly. the world isnt necessarily more insane than it has been - its insane in the same ways although now the undertones and overtones are getting reinforcement and the less resonant modes and thoughts and cultures are disappearing. because... "you cannot compell the silence to cease". and theres a spirit that goes along with that thought and that realization. most people read over words and writings have more to do with rhythms and waterfalls. its possible to hypnotise with the written word. its almost impossible not to hypnotise with the written word. especially with blocks of words and sentences with very little space between ideas. no room to organize. thats "the concept" at least. ive bad the experience of reading and noticing i havent understood a single sentence for ten minutes. i was somewhere else in that quasi-dream state. the house of the seven gables doesnt work with the state. it doesnt ask you to put anything into the story. the scene has been set and youre watching - as a voyuer. the vision of a port remains. music is perhaps the only way an insanenperson can express their insanity and let it bleed into the culture and act as a vaccine. like the bacteria "the scabs" are pumping into the boston subway system - or as its affectionately known - something or other but not MBTA because well thats an authority not a place. [/quote] Charlie Manson called, and he wants his rant back.
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Post by iameye on Aug 31, 2012 18:45:14 GMT -5
PS., how can i upload an amusing avatar? lol
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Post by iameye on Sept 1, 2012 8:06:45 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Sept 1, 2012 9:31:47 GMT -5
You are quite right, downstairs it is - I stand corrected. Do you? On the street I had my feet on the ground Stood corrected well protected resurrected had it my way I've got my feet in the clouds got my head on the ground I know that I'm not a square as long as they're not around
Climb an invisible soap box
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Post by iameye on Sept 1, 2012 10:36:47 GMT -5
had it his way a hidden treasure
made to measure
for your pleasure
lol
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Post by iameye on Sept 1, 2012 11:11:37 GMT -5
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