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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #25 on Jun 29, 2011, 11:08pm »

Hmm. The later 'Paul' seems to be more of a jerk. More uptight and anxious sounding. but their voices are identical.

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #26 on Jul 1, 2011, 4:29pm »

Jun 29, 2011, 11:08pm, sall wrote:

Hmm. The later 'Paul' seems to be more of a jerk. More uptight and anxious sounding. but their voices are identical.

Another example.

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« Reply #27 on Jul 2, 2011, 4:26am »

He explains that here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc2DOBobJx8

What excactly would you say, when they stick 100 cameras in your face after you heard that your old friend GOT SHOT. "Its a drag, now piss off"

He is nice charming Paul in the above video and also in this one for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGM29EGyogM

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #28 on Jul 10, 2011, 11:47am »

thanks for all the different opinions guys!

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« Reply #29 on Jul 20, 2011, 8:28pm »

I agree, while remarkably similar, these are two different people.

When it's not concealed beneath his mop-head of (wig) hair, Paul's forehead bulges out at the front & sides. Unlike Faul's.

Also, people don't get taller or falsetto with age. Paul was 5'8" & had a husky voice. Faul is 5'11" & has a much higher toned voice.

But the real difference to me, is in personalities. Remember those earlier pictures of Paul dancing - naked on a balcony, or with 'ghostly' hands behind him. He was the life & soul of a party. whereas Faul is sombre & seclusionary.

Despite him equating freedom with satanism, I don't think Faul's done a bad job, I think he's been instrumental in dropping clues about the whole affair. they wanted to be the most talked about band in history.

I think with the fame etc over the years he's got more full-of-himself. He's always pointing at people in pics. what's that all about !?

Jun 28, 2011, 6:29am, simplythevest wrote:

Jun 27, 2011, 11:33am, sall wrote:

Thanks for all the opinions guys. I'm keeping in mind what everyone says.

My opinion is that photos can be useful and show the difference, but they are only of so much use. To really 'get it', you've got to watch footage.

Just watch these two videos.

Paul McCartney, 1964 David Frost interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNYVxqJ83W8

'Paul McCartney', 1967, 'LSD' interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHC0s6G3VbM

Two different guys.

Different shaped heads, different eyes, '67 guy with the much longer head also has a longer nose, mouth downturns in the corners at times in a kind of frown. The bottom lip hangs out a little, while the distance of the bottom of the nose to the top of the top lip is noticeably greater than in the '64 interview. The voices noticeably differ, and while the manerisms on '67 guy are similar, they are actaully totally off. In this video you can actually see the guy working on his 'impression'. It's hard work for him at this point and it shows. Look at the forced way he chews his bottom lip, for one example. Totally phoney.

Also, if you look at his ear in the '67 interview, it looks fake. It just doesn't sit right, and the tone of it is all wrong. It's just bizarre.

Also, look at Pauls smile in the '67 clip and how different he looks when he's smiling. This is something they were never able to replicate in the replacement and in many ways is the detail that proves the case. (apart from the totally different shaped skulls of course.)

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #30 on Jul 21, 2011, 2:36am »

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Re: Is this Even Real?
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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #32 on Jul 22, 2011, 6:43am »

Jul 21, 2011, 2:36am, Paul is alive wrote:

Well, you raise a good point. My brother died a little over a year ago and it was devastating. It will always be devastating. I couldn't imagine not displaying any grief or being able to go along with a substitution or displaying happiness in his presence.

On the other hand, why didn't "Paul McCartney" attend his father's funeral? And then there's still the bridge of his nose...

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #33 on Jul 23, 2011, 7:10pm »

official reason - Wings was on tour at time of Dad's death
real reason - difficult relationship with woman Jim married after Paul's mother died. Paul never accepted her or Jim's 2nd family. All too typical. Son feels father betrayed mother.

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #34 on Jul 23, 2011, 10:46pm »

Jul 23, 2011, 7:10pm, Nobody really wrote:

official reason - Wings was on tour at time of Dad's death
real reason - difficult relationship with woman Jim married after Paul's mother died. Paul never accepted her or Jim's 2nd family. All too typical. Son feels father betrayed mother.

In other words, the individual that we are talking about is a cold-assed MF and that's all there is to it.

Well, maybe. His heart bleeds over a barnyard animal destined for your dinner table but not for his own father.

It's why I have no trouble with the idea of bedeviling him with questions about his identity.

Besides, there's still this:

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #35 on Jul 24, 2011, 12:17am »

Notoriously cold but not "dead" cold. Ha!
There's a tape circulating of a business meeting in the 80's.

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #36 on Jul 24, 2011, 3:29am »

Jul 23, 2011, 10:46pm, 65if2007 wrote:

Jul 23, 2011, 7:10pm, Nobody really wrote:

official reason - Wings was on tour at time of Dad's death
real reason - difficult relationship with woman Jim married after Paul's mother died. Paul never accepted her or Jim's 2nd family. All too typical. Son feels father betrayed mother.

In other words, the individual that we are talking about is a cold-assed MF and that's all there is to it.

Well, maybe. His heart bleeds over a barnyard animal destined for your dinner table but not for his own father.

It's why I have no trouble with the idea of bedeviling him with questions about his identity.

Besides, there's still this:

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... and this:

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #37 on Jul 24, 2011, 4:35am »

Jul 24, 2011, 3:29am, GN wrote:

Jul 23, 2011, 10:46pm, 65if2007 wrote:

In other words, the individual that we are talking about is a cold-assed MF and that's all there is to it.

Well, maybe. His heart bleeds over a barnyard animal destined for your dinner table but not for his own father.

It's why I have no trouble with the idea of bedeviling him with questions about his identity.

Besides, there's still this:

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... and this:

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Yeah GN, but I'm sure that "Nobody really" can produce his own set of early and late pictures that he can argue convincingly show the same man at different ages. It's been done before.

I lost interest a long time ago in sets of "before" and "after" pictures produced by partisans on either side -- none of whom are professionals in the field of facial identification -- because those sets of pictures cancel each other out.

The magazine article interested me simply because it actually did produce expert opinion on the issue.

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #38 on Jul 24, 2011, 5:37am »

Jul 24, 2011, 4:35am, 65if2007 wrote:

Jul 24, 2011, 3:29am, GN wrote:

... and this:

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Yeah GN, but I'm sure that "Nobody really" can produce his own set of early and late pictures that he can argue convincingly show the same man at different ages. It's been done before.

I lost interest a long time ago in sets of "before" and "after" pictures produced by partisans on either side -- none of whom are professionals in the field of facial identification -- because those sets of pictures cancel each other out.

The magazine article interested me simply because it actually did produce expert opinion on the issue.

Thanks 65if2007 since that work just reproduce on paper what SunKing has already done on the net.
They belong to the Prometeus team.

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« Reply #39 on Jul 24, 2011, 7:50am »

Prometheus team? ::)

Do you know the Fireman, GN?

lol

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #40 on Jul 24, 2011, 8:27am »

There must be some kind of way out of here
Said the joker to the thief
There's too much confusion
I can't get no relief
Businessmen there - they drink my wine
Plow men dig my earth
None will level on the line
Nobody of it is worth - Hey!

No reason to get excited
The thief he kindly spoke
There are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke but huh
But you and I we've been through that
And this is not our fate
So let us not talk falsely now
The hour's getting late ::)

- Hey!

All along the watchtower
Princess kept the view

While all the women came and went
Bare-foot servants too, but huh
Outside in the cold distance
A wild cat did growl

Two riders were approaching
And the wind began to howl - Mary!

a special stadium 8-)

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« Reply #41 on Jul 24, 2011, 8:50am »

Team Fireman Wins!

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winner's circle 8-)

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #42 on Jul 24, 2011, 11:48am »

Jul 24, 2011, 5:37am, GN wrote:

Jul 24, 2011, 4:35am, 65if2007 wrote:

Yeah GN, but I'm sure that "Nobody really" can produce his own set of early and late pictures that he can argue convincingly show the same man at different ages. It's been done before.

I lost interest a long time ago in sets of "before" and "after" pictures produced by partisans on either side -- none of whom are professionals in the field of facial identification -- because those sets of pictures cancel each other out.

The magazine article interested me simply because it actually did produce expert opinion on the issue.

Thanks 65if2007 since that work just reproduce on paper what SunKing has already done on the net.
They belong to the Prometeus team.

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Well, if the biometrics experts consulted for the Wired Italia article ever expressed the opinion that Brian Epstein was replaced by Don Knotts, they would lose all credibility in my eyes -- but, thankfully, they didn't do this.

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #43 on Jul 24, 2011, 5:11pm »

My dead "cold" comment was a pun. As in cold to the touch. Get it?
I like the board. It's interesting. I don't think Paul ever died but that's just my opinion. I have no interest in throwing up pictures of this and that or the other. I've seen ones where he looks different and ones where he looks the same. Whatever. I'm not invested in it either way but I'm not going to walk into someone's house and start throwing my weight around because that's rude so don't behave like I am. I have an open mind. That's why I even checked the board out in the first place.
I saw a question about Paul's father's funeral and answered it to the best of my knowledge. Simple as that. Bye.

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #44 on Jul 26, 2011, 2:28pm »

Jul 24, 2011, 5:11pm, Nobody really wrote:

My dead "cold" comment was a pun. As in cold to the touch. Get it?
I like the board. It's interesting. I don't think Paul ever died but that's just my opinion. I have no interest in throwing up pictures of this and that or the other. I've seen ones where he looks different and ones where he looks the same. Whatever. I'm not invested in it either way but I'm not going to walk into someone's house and start throwing my weight around because that's rude so don't behave like I am. I have an open mind. That's why I even checked the board out in the first place.
I saw a question about Paul's father's funeral and answered it to the best of my knowledge. Simple as that. Bye.

I don't think that you have done anything for which you need to apologzie. I think that your point is well-taken. How indeed could McCartney's family so matter-of-factly -- and in the picture that you've submitted -- so cheerfully accept a substitution?

I have an open mind about the subject, but what you have said is one of a number of things that -- at first blush, anyway -- seem just plain wrong with the idea that the original Paul McCartney died.

And I think that talk about the so-called Illuminati is just so much chin music.

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #45 on Jul 26, 2011, 4:44pm »

Chin music.... hey that's a nice way of putting it

The McCartney family were so happy to play along because they didn't loose anybody. In fact you'd think JPM had a lot more time to spend with family, not less. He wasn't in the Beatles spotlight any longer.
So of course his family was happy with the arrangement.

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #46 on Jul 26, 2011, 10:37pm »

Jul 26, 2011, 4:44pm, eyesbleed wrote:

Chin music.... hey that's a nice way of putting it

The McCartney family were so happy to play along because they didn't loose anybody. In fact you'd think JPM had a lot more time to spend with family, not less. He wasn't in the Beatles spotlight any longer.
So of course his family was happy with the arrangement.

So where is he now?

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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #47 on Jul 27, 2011, 5:00am »

Jul 26, 2011, 10:37pm, 65if2007 wrote:

Jul 26, 2011, 4:44pm, eyesbleed wrote:

Chin music.... hey that's a nice way of putting it

The McCartney family were so happy to play along because they didn't loose anybody. In fact you'd think JPM had a lot more time to spend with family, not less. He wasn't in the Beatles spotlight any longer.
So of course his family was happy with the arrangement.

So where is he now?

ok, here's a non-occult option:
what if...the whole PID thing is the Beatles having used doubles at the height of Beatlemania and Paul's DOUBLE died?

There you have it. A theory that could explain everything.

But the reason this board slips into the occult rabbit-whole time and again,
is that there are FAR more FACTS leading to Paul's occult connections than to him being dead.

I think the idea that his death may have been symbolic is something that many members have come to gradually accept...

Also, I hope you all realize this, at some point HE accepted the hoax, then fell in love with it, and put "clues" of it every now and then - you can call this marketing, but I'm a bit more generous...I call it "Art", and I'm glad he did, because a LOT of his later work would be otherwise utterly unlistenable.

now, back to the rabbit-whole...

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« Reply #48 on Jul 27, 2011, 6:00am »

I think the idea that his death may have been symbolic is something that many members have come to gradually accept...

really? so where is everybody?
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Re: Is this Even Real?
« Reply #49 on Jul 27, 2011, 11:09am »

Jul 24, 2011, 8:27am, iameye wrote:

Outside in the cold distance
A wild cat did growl

Two riders were approaching
And the wind began to howl - Mary!

Let's up the ante a bit.

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