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Post by horseloverphat on Oct 25, 2007 11:41:45 GMT -5
King....in that case, has obviously 'Overlooked' .....the many subtle and not so subtle references that Kubrick included in the film to suggest that the Hotel was evil/malevolent....because there are plenty of them. Maybe I'll get around to showing some eventually. Stanley's take on the hotel being called 'Overlook' and the fact that it was constructed on an old Indian burial ground...indicative of the whiteman/new worlders (white man's burden) destruction of the american Indian on which the current incarnation of the US is built on....seems to have been 'Overlooked' by many viewers....just as any admission of this event and the guilt associated with it is 'Overlooked' to this day. IOW's....you can't really expect to build a healthy world/society that was built on the destruction of another indigenous race of people...a society built on murder/redrum. ....hence Jack's problem.
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Post by JoJo on Oct 25, 2007 14:28:47 GMT -5
Understood, I can only say that King was only addressing the cause of Jack's descent into madness.. the movie (he felt) seemed to imply it was the solitude and lack of alcohol that made him mad, while in the book it was clearly possession by a malevolent spirit. Also said that Kubrick didn't "get" the horror genre.. I dunno, King has bitched about it for years.. but when he made his own TV movie version, it fell pretty flat suspense-wise.
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Post by horseloverphat on Oct 25, 2007 14:52:18 GMT -5
"Also said that Kubrick didn't "get" the horror genre..."
That is why Kubrick...rewrote it with this movie.....the genre, I mean.
In one scene Jack sneaks up behind Wendy when she is reading his manuscript... 'all work & no play...' Kubrick allows us to see Jack sneaking up in this scene before he says 'How do you like it?', whereas if he wanted to create a typical 'genre' scare...he would've allowed Jack to sneak up without us seeing him first and have him jump out and 'typically' scare the audience & Wendy at the same time.
An example of rewriting the genre....and true artistic freedom, as opposed to the 'genre' straight-jacket King is suggesting.
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Post by MikeNL on Oct 27, 2007 18:31:10 GMT -5
Movies and Shows: The Green Mile, Forrest Gump, 911 In Plane Site, Dead Silence, Death Sentence, Good Luck Chuck, Halloween, Perfect Stranger, The Contract, 1408, An Inconvenient Thruth, Disturbia, Gone, Hatchet, Knocked Up, Rain Man, Sunshine, The Bourne Ultimatum, The Condemned, The Tripper, Unholy, Whisper, The Ring 1, The Ring 2,
ROTTEN APPLE, Prison Break, Lost, Heroes, South Park, My Name Is Earl, The Office, Journeyman, Jericho, The Dead Zone
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Post by bungalowbill on Oct 27, 2007 22:47:30 GMT -5
The Manchurian Candidate was a good film
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Post by horseloverphat on Oct 28, 2007 15:55:12 GMT -5
the original is very good. did you ever wonder about 2 of the main actors/actresses names in a movie realted to political assassins...their real names? Janet Leigh (Lee)Laurence HarveyOswald Morris should've really done the cinematography....imo.....must've been too busy to do the shoot... (if you can forgive the pun) Having... Angela 'The Family' Lansbury...was another added bonus. her relationship with her son is disturbingly incestuous in tone....watch out for the Mother kissing the son full on the lips. Anyone familiar with 'mind control' will understand the relevance and impact of that particular moment.
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Post by mindgames on Nov 3, 2007 4:23:31 GMT -5
Prison break is really good, but I only tuned in once.
3 good movies I recently saw (not my faves)
1)American Gangster
2)Evil Dead 3 Resident Evil 3
3) Into the Wild
has anyone read this book? (you'll need to rent police Academy or something to get your mind off of it after words.)
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Post by B on Nov 11, 2007 16:09:49 GMT -5
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Post by B on Nov 14, 2007 23:39:34 GMT -5
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Post by That Latvian Guy on Nov 25, 2007 2:25:18 GMT -5
A must see! I will try to get you a full version later
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Post by JoJo on Dec 16, 2007 17:27:57 GMT -5
a few of mine...in no particular order. Mulholland Drive (a symbolic masterpiece fusing reality with dreams) Just saw it finally, I admit I was a bit intimidated by all the talk about how confusing and mysterious it was, but I liked it immediately, the 2.5 hours flew by. Apparently David Lynch provided ten clues for solving the mystery on the DVD release, here is a site that goes into great detail. One thing I figured out pretty quickly, we weren't looking at the present day for the first part of the movie (Betty and Rita) even though there were not a lot of visual clues such as 50's taxis and such. But.. where the hell were the cell phones? A rotary dial phone? Made no sense.. So know I know what "behind Winkie's means.. scary! ;D
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