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Post by morsemoose on Oct 8, 2007 9:12:39 GMT -5
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Oct 8, 2007 12:23:46 GMT -5
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Oct 8, 2007 17:59:21 GMT -5
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Post by morsemoose on Oct 9, 2007 5:12:31 GMT -5
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Post by mindgames on Oct 9, 2007 6:30:37 GMT -5
You can't be serious!  |
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Post by morsemoose on Oct 9, 2007 7:10:32 GMT -5
just as with the paul/bill story, the initial reaction is 'you can't be serious' but, if you check the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, you'll see.
the early AJ films (best of, dark secrets at bohemian grove, america destroyed by design etc) are the easiest way to see this, because jones/hicks is much older and fatter now.
then you have the other supporting evidence such as-
hicks & jones both with sacred cow, kevin booth etc.
hicks 'died' in 1994, and AJ appeared not long afterwards.
go figure. I'm not joking.
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Post by iameye on Oct 9, 2007 7:33:52 GMT -5
How do you explain the part where Bill got cancer and wasted away?
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Post by morsemoose on Oct 9, 2007 7:52:20 GMT -5
you mean 'live at igby's' and 'the united states of advertising' - hicks' last filmed appearences.
he doesn't look like he's wasting away or dying of cancer in either. a little thinner than before, but that's all. wear a beard, lose a few pounds - it's easy. also, on the igby's video, he just has too much energy to be three months away from death.
hicks' death was faked, paving the way for AJ.
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Post by mindgames on Oct 9, 2007 14:52:32 GMT -5
Have you ever met Bill Hicks or Alex Jones? just as with the paul/bill story, the initial reaction is 'you can't be serious' but, if you check the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, you'll see. the early AJ films (best of, dark secrets at bohemian grove, america destroyed by design etc) are the easiest way to see this, because jones/hicks is much older and fatter now. then you have the other supporting evidence such as- hicks & jones both with sacred cow, kevin booth etc. hicks 'died' in 1994, and AJ appeared not long afterwards. go figure. I'm not joking. |
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Post by The Deceptionist on Oct 9, 2007 15:06:26 GMT -5
They do look freakishly similar... but I dunno, thats about it. Oh yeah - and they both spent a lot of time in Texas.
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Post by jarvitronics on Oct 9, 2007 15:19:40 GMT -5
I am a friend of Hicks' childhood buddy Dwight Slade, (who is also a stand-up comic.) Sorry to disappoint, but...Hicks is dead. (Oh my God I am actually an insider on something!) -j |
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Post by mindgames on Oct 9, 2007 15:34:05 GMT -5
;D I'll drink to that Jarv! Anyway I don't understand the Bill Hicks worship, yeah he was funny, but he also had it twisted sometimes, later in his life he was coming around to the real truths possibly with the influence of AJ, although I don't believe AJ ran around with Bill Hicks and Kevin Booth much prior to Hicks death, AJ wasn't AJ yet, AJ didn't go mainstream until after 911. Bill Hicks didn't subscribe to everything AJ believes even in Hicks latter days. He is still refering to the Branch Davidians in derogatory ways, something AJ would have been opposed to, not because AJ believes in Branch Davidians beliefs, but because AJ exposed the demonization of them.
You can't even compare this to PID! Kevin Booth is not dropping clues on his albums, lol, unless you read something into "Hooker Mom" that I didn't read!  I am a friend of Hicks' childhood buddy Dwight Slade, (who is also a stand-up comic.) Sorry to disappoint, but...Hicks is dead. (Oh my God I am actually an insider on something!) -j
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Post by thisone on Oct 9, 2007 15:39:28 GMT -5
Yes, I read somewhere that it is a banned topic on the scientologist proisonplanet website, as are several other topics. But that's not for here! So much for free-speech. Maybe someone should take a bull-horn round his house....
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Post by mindgames on Oct 9, 2007 17:19:49 GMT -5
well worse than that t.o., Alex promotes Mel Gibson the biggest illuminati "icon"(hint hint).
And Alex refuses to answer why he promotes Mel, even after Mel's anti-jewish tirade.
Although it puzzles me when alex jones haters say that he never talks about the Jews, when alex promotes Mel Gibson a Jew hater. You can't have it both ways people. Personally I think Alex is smart enough not to fall into that trap of being a anti-semite by harping on some jewish conspiracy, but look if you want to find something shady about Alex just look at his Mel Gibson worship. The problem is Alex Jones haters refuse to ask themselves why Alex promotes Mel Gibson because it would disprove half of thier theories about Alex. The fact is Alex promotes Mel Gibson 100 times harder than he ever promoted Rosie ODonnell or Tom Cruise, and just because Alex promotes something Rosie said doesn't mean he is a lesbian, when Rosie was saying stupid stuff Alex was quick to criticize (Gun control topic) and just because Alex agreed with Tom Cruise about drug companies doesn't mean Alex is a Scientologist, I agree with Tom Cruise on that but I am not promoting Scientology either. And just because Alex promotes Mel doesn't mean he is racist against Jews, but it absolutely disproves all the Alex Jones haters who complain that Alex doesn't harp on the the Jews enough. He promotes Mel Gibson what more do you want?
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Post by morsemoose on Oct 9, 2007 21:06:28 GMT -5
thanks for the good natured tone of your replies, folks. glad to see free speech alive and well.
mindgames - the only comparison I meant with PID (i'm a PWR believer, by the way) was in the way people often go into denial when they are told something unpleasant about their hero(s). I was a fan of BH (who I've never met) until I saw how he was basically working for TPTB, helping their agenda along with an act filled with sex, drugs, rock 'n roll, and general depravity - goatboy & john davidson, anyone?
AJ (who I've also never met) appears to follow the same path by mixing truth & disinfo, while generating as much fear & hysteria as he can.
and if you're looking for clues, try the last scene of 'the best of alex jones' - AJ and the cop with some very interesting comments as the credits roll.
the deceptionist - they look 'freakishly similar' but that's all??
what about all the circumstantial evidence -
the sacred cow connection
the kevin booth connection
jones looking much older than his years
hicks dies shortly before jones appears, etc etc.
surely then the reason why many people dismiss this without serious consideration is the apparently different voices of AJ & BH. but, as i said before, you can often hear hicks' voice quite clearly on the early AJ films.
if someone has some verifiable pictures of AJ from feb '94 or earlier (or even better a pic of AJ & BH together), then that's the end of it.
I'm not at all closed-minded on this - it's just that they look the same, often sound the same, move the same, are both part of the establishment, appear to follow the same agenda, and so on.
if they are not the same person, it should be easy to come up with simple and definitive proof. but, in the absence of any such proof, everything seems to either fit perfectly or come disturbingly close.
and to jarvitronics - I don't mean any offence, but childhood buddy says hicks is dead doesn't prove or disprove anything. if hicks is dead of course he'll confirm it. if hicks is not dead, he'll have to toe the official line in a cover-up.
so, are there any pre-94 pics of AJ out there? he doesn't seem to have much of an early history. if there really is a serious lack of young AJ pics, then surely the possibility that BH & AJ are one and the same will have to be taken very seriously. if there are pics, then we can all just drop it, no problem!
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Post by The Deceptionist on Oct 9, 2007 21:27:52 GMT -5
Goddamn pandoras box lol... Where's the motive? Bill Hicks was a pretty successful comedian - why would he replace himself? Why not do all the Alex Jones stuff as Bill Hicks, a guy who's already well-known worldwide rather than start again from the bottom on some local Austin station?
I'm on the fence with this one really, I've never known much about Bill Hicks (before my time... and I have a thing about overly popular people I've never heard of; takes me a while to get into them) and Alex Jones just scares me, but I'll admit he's a very old looking 33. And it is strange that he pops up from nowhere right after Bill Hicks kicks the bucket - but not that strange really, when you consider he only graduated in '93.
Okay, so they look similar, they worked for the same production company, knew the same people (well - person), you don't see them both in the same place at the same time... If they did know each other before Hicks died, I'm with you on looking for a picture of the two together - that would be quite neat...
I guess in this f@!ked up crazy world we live in all of this could very well be true, which is why I remain on the fence: Its as likely true as it is not true. Agnostic to the end, me ;D
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Post by morsemoose on Oct 9, 2007 21:57:59 GMT -5
I don't think it's a matter of hicks doing it as a career move - rather the way he is used by TPTB. if hicks is some kind of NWO programmed multiple personality, that could easily explain it. you'd need an utterly out of the ordinary character to do the job that jones does, someone trained for the role. who better than hicks? I say 'trained' because TPTB would not want to risk a normal, fallible person to fill such an important position. they could crack under the pressure, have an attack of concience, or generally screw it up in so many different ways.
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Post by The Deceptionist on Oct 9, 2007 22:04:12 GMT -5
So... are you suggesting that maybe the 'Bill Hicks' part of him doesn't know he's 'Alex Jones' ? That his brain has, through severe trauma, been compartmentalized into schizophrenia that can be controlled by triggers and stuff?? Mah gawd!
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Post by morsemoose on Oct 9, 2007 22:08:26 GMT -5
only suggesting....
maybe he's fully aware and willing. I really don't know.
and maybe we'll find some pre-94 pics!
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Post by The Deceptionist on Oct 9, 2007 22:18:00 GMT -5
whether BH and AJ are the same person or not - I dont know, but at least thanks to this thread I've finally managed to watch my first few Bill Hicks clips ;D wow, what a fuckin legend!
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Post by mindgames on Oct 10, 2007 6:14:01 GMT -5
"if someone has some verifiable pictures of AJ from feb '94 or earlier (or even better a pic of AJ & BH together), then that's the end of it."  ;D ;D No amount of proof would be enough to convince Jones haters of anything. I have met Alex Jones, yes he does look 33!!! Alex has been live on TV for the past 10 years (or more) aging before our eyes. I have seen all of Bill Hicks tapes. They do not look similar in anyway nor do they act walk or talk similar. It is complete poppycock to say that not much is known about Alex's early life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You obviously haven't watched his shows. Alex graduated from Anderson High School go do your research and get his yearbook photo. It is ridiculous because your motives are clear. You hate Alex Jones. This is nothing like PID, PID has a ring of truth (there are to many clues left by the Beatles themselves) even for those that might automaticly think its ridiculous. And Pid has motives. This Alex is Hicks thing is simply ridiculous even using an open mind. "Jones was born in Parkland Hospital in Dallas, Texas,[1] and grew up in the suburb of Rockwall.[2] He graduated from Anderson High School in northwest Austin, Texas in 1993 and briefly attended Austin Community College. His father was a dentist with Castle Dental and encouraged him to begin his career in Austin with a live, call-in format cable access television program. In 1996, Jones switched format to KJFK, hosting a show named The Final Edition.[3] In 1997, he released his first documentary-style film, America Destroyed By Design.[4]" Jones wasn't even on access prior to 1993 Bill hicks died in 1994. So in 1993 we have Alex doing live shows and Bill hicks appearing on Raw Time live. We don't have a picture of them together but we have Alex Jones appearing as Alex jones and Bill hicks appearing as Bill hicks live on tv the same year. (Remember Alex did a live weekly show). So Alex must have been wearing a muscle suit (Alex was buff back then) and a Hollywood latex Alex mask, that he slipped off to become the skinny dying bearded Bill Hicks. Bill Hicks couldn't even write comedy this good. |
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Oct 10, 2007 23:35:52 GMT -5
In many of Hicks' routines he talks about being in Australia and watching the Waco incidents on TV..... However I just found THIS little video youtube.com/watch?v=It seems he was actually there when it all went down. He talks in his stand up about seeing a bootleg tape of the tanks shooting fire into the compound (as oppsed to the official story's tear gas).... Has anyone else seen this? |
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Post by mindgames on Oct 11, 2007 7:10:49 GMT -5
Well didn't the stand off last a few weeks? He could have very well watched it in Australia and flown back in time to be there, yes I have seen that clip and since Alex Jones rebuilt the church some one is bound to say that AJ Hicks was so upset that he invented AJ in order to rebuild the temple. bla blah.
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Post by morsemoose on Oct 11, 2007 7:39:01 GMT -5
I've seen the clip before, but didn't know that BH claimed to have been in australia at the time. presumably it's taken from "On The Seventh Day in Waco" (which I've not seen) www.imdb.com/title/tt0354785/this was posted on amazondotcom by Kent D. Bentkowski in a review of the book "Bill Hicks: Agent of Evolution" - 'Still another project of Bill and Kevin's involved the Branch Davidian siege at Waco in 1993. Bill drove while Kevin rolled film, and the result was the little-known but worthwhile video, On The Seventh Day in Waco. As Kevin wrote on the video package; "On March 8, 1993, Bill flew to Austin and rented a car. I packed all my camera stuff and we drove 2 hours north to Waco. We hoped to film David Koresh and his compound, 7 days after the bloody siege. Stopped by DPS [Department of Public Safety] officers, we quickly found a way around them." The resultant video shows several interesting, yet ultimately disturbing, facts that were kept off the establishment news. And, of course, Bill put all of this into perspective, in his own unique comedic voice; "Some are calling it a cult, others a slumber party that just really got out of hand . . ." wikipedia states that hicks was on tour in australia in april 1993, and also that the Waco Siege lasted 51 days, from feb 28 until april 19, 1993. so Hicks probably witnessed the early stages of the siege, and then went on tour down under. |
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Post by bantamagorist on Jul 28, 2008 1:22:04 GMT -5
That's pretty convincing material, but 42:30 makes it even MORE obvious!!! After bawling out everybody at the Austin, TX DMV over having to thumb scan to get his license renewed, in his typical blustery, overwrought, Limbaugh-esque delivery, you hear a voiceover (ostensibly given by Jones himself, as he narrates it in first person). Only now, the bellowing baritone is gone, replaced with the eerily familiar and slightly adenoidal cadences of the late Bill Hicks. There is no possible way this voiceover was delivered by Jones. It's not just that the tone and timbre of the voice has changed; the accent, timing, volume, and tempo have become completely unrecognizable and incomparable to the voice heard just moments before. If AJ isn't really Bill Hicks, he sure was channeling him at some point during the editing of this film. |
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