Phil Spector trial -- connection to PID

[TotalInformation]

I wanted this on the main board, because I want to put it out there that this incident with Phil Spector and the death of Lana Clarkson seems scripted to me.

After years of his wacky behavior, why is it that the same month "Let It Be... Naked" is released, a dead girl shows up in Phil Spector's foyer? This obviously blunted any chance Spector had to offer an opinion on his attempted purging from the BEATLES legacy -- including the removal of arguably *the* most revealing BEATLES track, "Dig It."

I offer some audio commentary here: www.total411.info/2007/08/audio-phil-spector-conspiracy.html

[mommybird]

That's a very valid observation. T.I. It really does bear more investigation.

[LOVELYRITA]

Wow, what an eerie thing, I was in the car with my sis and on the radio was one the Ronette's song and I was thinking about Phil Spector's Wall of Sound, then I thought about this murder trial, and his appearance being so bizarre with the strange hair, and I thought about what he did to the Beatles' music, Let It Be....the original release....Thinking about what did HE know?

Then I saw this post....it's almost like someone else was thinking my thoughts...or ideas...

How did Spector get involved with Let It Be? I can't remember anymore.

And I do remember that he was physically abusive to Ronnie Spector...so is it a stretch to think he could take a life?

Another argument, why would one appear in court with wild hair? If one of sound mind would think of defending oneself in a court of law, you would present yourself "straight", not dressed in crazy clothing or wild hair...

This man's cheese has slipped off his cracker...what is the deal?

Something else I just remembered, Sonny Bono had worked for Phil Spector in the wall of sound before he became famous with Cher....
Just something peculiar..that's all.

[mommybird]

I have always considered Sonny's death to be suspicious.
I believe that T.I. is on the right track with this one.

[LOVELYRITA]

I think so too...his connection to the Beatles is strong as well as the trial taking place...

A peculiar little man.

[lightson]

I don't know enough about the incident to make any judgements, but considering all the insider knowledge he has obviously been privy to over the years I can see why people would want him out of the way. Undoubtedly not just Beatles stuff either.

These are the Phil Spector youtube clips mentioned in the audio, he mostly talks about John and doesn't sound too crazy despite appearances:
www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=eimagine&p=r

Just noticed, in the one called "On John Lennon's Activism" he says "as great as Dylan was, and is", possibly a little bit of that insider knowledge slipping out there?

[mommybird]

Just noticed, in the one called "On John Lennon's Activism" he says "as great as Dylan was, and is", possibly a little bit of that insider knowledge slipping out there?

Maybe. I noticed after looking at the photos posted that Dylan's ears seemed to have changed quite a bit from one year to the next !

[Paul Bearer]

And also about the same time, Michael Jackson, is picked up for questioning re child molestation. FYI, MJ owns (does he still?) the rights to The Beatles catalogue.

[B]

Yes, but there's something about he has to re-bid for them soon.

[LOVELYRITA]

Maybe Yoko will buy them back...??

[Paul Bearer]

The MJ incident occured within about a day of the Phil Spectre incident. That's why I think the two are connected - via agent Faul perhaps.

[TotalInformation]

the jury is out now...


just catching up on testimony from last month. prosecutor a snake running for office, judge a thug... they literally put the defense experts on trial

[Jude]

totalinformation said:

This obviously blunted any chance Spector had to offer an opinion on his attempted purging from the BEATLES legacy -- including the removal of arguably *the* most revealing BEATLES track, "Dig It."

Oh, you mean they removed that excerpt from a twelve minute long jam session they had during the Get Back sessions. The same excerpt which you can hear and see being played in the Let It Be movie. Funny how during that very same excerpt no one turned the camera off, and neither Billy Preston, George, Paul, or Ringo seemed to be giving John any strange looks...nothing. It's almost like he was just....rhyming things....on the spot! Nah...that's too simple an answer! The Beatles were masterminds---they were always plotting to reveal the truth during jam sessions not even intended for inclusion on an album!

[TotalInformation]

Hey genius, why don't you check on the commercial availability of the film then report back? (And then watch George's reaction.)

[Jude]

Uh....yeah. The commercial availability of Let It Be has ZILCH to do with anything, as even Help! and Hard Day's Night are only just now being given the DVD treatment with Help! being released later this month (if it's not out already).

Also, having actually viewed the film I can honestly say that it depicts nothing so much as a smirk on George's face when John runs through the "FBI, CIA, BBC" bit of the song. Smirks don't mean anything to me, as they were all beginning to hate each other by that point anyway.

[DarkHorse]

The unavailability of the Let It Be film is no coincidence. Knowing how much the Beatles/Apple market their stuff, it's awfully suspicious that LIB can't be found anywhere easily.

[GN]

jude said:

totalinformation said:

This obviously blunted any chance Spector had to offer an opinion on his attempted purging from the BEATLES legacy -- including the removal of arguably *the* most revealing BEATLES track, "Dig It."

Funny how during that very same excerpt no one turned the camera off, and neither Billy Preston, George, Paul, or Ringo seemed to be giving John any strange looks...nothing.

Paul?

[Jude]

Yes, I called the man whose legal name is James Paul McCartney "Paul".
Is there a problem with that, or do I have to always put a "sir" or "F" at the beginning of his name?
Sheesh.

[Jude]

darkhorse said:

The unavailability of the Let It Be film is no coincidence. Knowing how much the Beatles/Apple market their stuff, it's awfully suspicious that LIB can't be found anywhere easily.

I don't think it's very suspicious at all. Like I said, it's also hard to find A Hard Day's Night, Help! (which is just now getting a DVD release), and it's even harder to find Magical Mystery Tour than any of the three aforementioned films. Besides, if they wanted to hide something that happened to during the Get Back sessions they've done a very poor job of it; it's incredibly easy to obtain bootleg recordings of virtually everything that was recorded to tape during the sessions.

[DarkHorse]

jude said:

it's incredibly easy to obtain bootleg recordings of virtually everything that was recorded to tape during the sessions.

Thank you. You've just proved our point.

[JoJo]

The reason it's easy to obtain the Get Back (Nagras) recordings is because they were stolen. The parties involved were caught and arrested, but not before the horse escaped the barn. (not that I'm complaining)

This page may shed some light on this matter:

www.rarebeatles.com/photopg5/laserd.htm

Help!, AHDN and yes Let It Be made it to laserdisc, (a precursor to the DVD for those who may not know) with copies of LIB being quite rare. Also, I know that MMT, Help! AHDN and LIB all made it to VHS, as I have rented each of them at one time or another over the years. (although I have to wonder if the LIB tape was bootlegged from the videodisc)

What's missing from the official catalog on DVD: Let It be, MMT, and a two disk collection of their promo videos. The promos you find on Ebay are clearly thrown together from a patchwork of kinescopes and other dubious sources. MMT is on DVD, and I saw it once in Best Buy, but the company was some name I never heard of. (definitely not Apple)

[Jude]

So why didn't any of those movies stay in print after being released on VHS? Signs seem to point to Apple's ineptitude in handling their own film business rather than any sort of conspiracy to keep Let It Be out of people's hands. It's not suspicious at all, and also, what point did I prove, DarkHorse? I mentioned the bootleg recordings because I wanted the make a point of why Apple couldn't hide something from the Get Back sessions even if they wanted to, especially not in this current internet age when I can download the entire Niagra tape roll so easily.

[JoJo]

especially not in this current internet age when I can download the entire Niagra tape roll so easily.

The point of discussion is whether Apple prevents things from being released.. the Nagras are not an official release, Apple surely would prefer they never had seen the light of day. This particular theft was pretty egregious, but all those bootlegs you can download were no doubt the result of tapes "walking away".

What seems odd in my observation is that Apple or whomever has the rights to the movies has allowed the gray market in the case of the Help/MMT DVD's to continue for years, along with the LIB DVD's out there that are clearly illegal without countering with any high quality product that would shove the poor quality stuff right out of the marketplace. (with all subsequent profits going to them)

Perhaps it's just bad business decisions, but when Apple wants to market something, they don't do a poor job of it, witness Anthology with the VHS/DVD releases, an accompanying book costing a pretty penny, a TV special, etc.

[Jude]

Well that was all Neil Aspinall's fault, it would seem. Now that Jeff Jones oversees their back-catalogue of products, things are slowly starting to change.

[Paul Bearer]

jude said:

Well that was all Neil Aspinall's fault, it would seem. Now that Jeff Jones oversees their back-catalogue of products, things are slowly starting to change.

Maybe it's hard work doctoring every frame of that old footage. But things are slowly starting to change for sure, or should I say they're slowing starting to change the footage. ;D I can almost guarantee that the release of Help! on DVD will be a little...different from the original.