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Post by SimMHoward on Jan 17, 2005 12:34:09 GMT -5
hey now, what happened to this being a fair bored? All I can see is you guys putting him down. Maybe you should come over to M4E and see exactly what kind of welcome you get, you guys talk about how bad it is all the time, but it seems like the pot and the kettle to me.
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Post by jonna on Jan 17, 2005 13:19:00 GMT -5
wm Thank you. We´re all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. Now considering the amount of abuse leveled at us from you lot at larry's please do share your crybaby whiny-ass opinion with us. because you know it really amounts to a hill of beans.
if you don't like it DOOR...ASS...i'm sure you get the picture.
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Post by FlamingPie on Jan 17, 2005 13:32:15 GMT -5
Admins - Can you tell me what you want me to do in order to make you happy, so I can keep my account here?
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Post by jonna on Jan 17, 2005 13:42:31 GMT -5
that last message wasn't directed at you but since you asked. watch your mouth, quit with the smart ass comments and the cocky attitude and remember this isn't your house.
You shit on my doorstep i will knock you on your ass. I am NOT a people person
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Post by Red Lion on Jan 17, 2005 14:08:30 GMT -5
Depends on who owns the car.......... Really?? ........OK. Remember Uberkinder's site? He once posted a fade of himself and JPM. The features matched up nicely, at least as good as any JPM/Faul fade. The problem is Spooner really doesnt look all that much like JPM.................and neither does Bill.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jan 17, 2005 14:50:59 GMT -5
Admins - Can you tell me what you want me to do in order to make you happy, so I can keep my account here? Right now you are not in danger of losing your account FP. It's just that Jonna complimented you on your fade and you gave a smart-allicky comment as a reply.
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Post by FlamingPie on Jan 17, 2005 14:59:29 GMT -5
Right now you are not in danger of losing your account FP. It's just that Jonna complimented you on your fade and you gave a smart-allicky comment as a reply. I still don't see that comment as smart-allicky, it wasn't intended to be. I apologize if anyone took it that way.
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Post by eyesbleed on Jan 17, 2005 15:43:03 GMT -5
hey now, what happened to this being a fair bored? All I can see is you guys putting him down.. That's funny, I only remember giving him a compliment on his good work. I usually give ol'FP the benefit of the doubt, & as usual, I don't really think he intended his reply to be "smartass"...... but others did take it that way & that's the way it goes. It seems to me that the situation's been resolved. We've made our feelings concerning fades very clear, so FP knew he was posting another fade at his own risk~! Of course it was such a good fade he couldb't resist. But it boils down to this...... FP's still a member & probably will be for some time. And there's compliments all around on his most recent work..... how does that equal "only putting him down"?
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Post by JoJo on Jan 17, 2005 17:27:04 GMT -5
Yeah we've made a lot of arguments against fades, even one of your bretheren has made one here. I'm way too tired of the subject to rehash it again for the n'th time, really. There are a lot of other discussions and angles to look at, this is only one small part, and thanks for your contributions. But part of being a member of a board is being aware of whether what you are contributing is meeting with any kind of backing responses, or is it tilting at windmills, such as our friend here: No offense intended, but that's what it seems like sometimes...
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Post by FlamingPie on Jan 17, 2005 17:37:26 GMT -5
The next few threads of mine aren't going to be fades. They may be comparisons, or maybe even fades of the body, but no more facial fades for a while.
Everyone happy?
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Post by jonna on Jan 17, 2005 18:10:05 GMT -5
i'm always happy
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Post by eyesbleed on Jan 17, 2005 18:23:58 GMT -5
The next few threads of mine aren't going to be fades. They may be comparisons, or maybe even fades of the body, but no more facial fades for a while. Everyone happy? I'll be mucho happy as soon as I get my frajitas & knock back 3 or 4 margaritas! ;D Putting myself in yer shoes FP, I was thinkin'...... even if I had've promised to never post another fade; I don't think I could've resisted posting this one.
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Post by Doc on Jan 17, 2005 21:26:11 GMT -5
i'm always happy So, would that be a "terminal head injury?" Pass the bottle.....
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Post by Doc on Jan 17, 2005 22:31:38 GMT -5
Really?? ........OK. Remember Uberkinder's site? He once posted a fade of himself and JPM. The features matched up nicely, at least as good as any JPM/Faul fade. The problem is Spooner really doesnt look all that much like JPM.................and neither does Bill. What leaps out of these three pictures is the shape of the face and head, and the eyebrows. A very handsome dude---in the first two, hair length is very moderate. The way the eyebrows angle down toward the eyes; the wide, wide cheekbones, the appreciable tapering down to a square, set jaw; the almost "Romulan" look.....And, an incinclusive call, perhaps, cause the floor isn't flush with the photo, but the first two seem to make Harroson the taller, and Paul seems to have a slight, selnder build (in 1964); also his head sure seems smaller than either George's or John's. Also, Paul's ears are showing. Forehead does not seem to be tall. Also, to girl, the nose is a revelation, as well. Not as prominent an affair as it seems occasionally in some photos...... early AND later.......I still worry that we may have a "Mr. Potato Head" phenomenon.......(ba-dum-bump) Now, in this next picture below, IMO, we have a very good picture of Bill. And we can see how Paul's features, are almost perfectly recreated, and made to appear, on a face of a totally different shape, and proportion, at least, as my eyes see it. This looks very much like Paul--if you focus on the features. Try not to for a moment. Focus instead on the head and cranium. Even allowing for the effects of lens type and how close the subjects face is to the camera; one still notices a remarkable difference in overall proportion. And, a little aging around the eye. Possible, yes, but......why would that be left in some headshots, but not all? Of course, the bottom photo IS close enough to the skin to see epidermal details a micron across; like the moon MIGHT be seen by the Hubble telescope, if ever that were allowed. (Maybe they don't want us to know the moon has zits.) Anyway, I offer this: So, RedLion, I ask, (with all due respect), is my car still idling in the ditch? ;D
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Post by xpt626 on Jan 17, 2005 22:52:45 GMT -5
hey now, what happened to this being a fair bored? All I can see is you guys putting him down. Maybe you should come over to M4E and see exactly what kind of welcome you get, you guys talk about how bad it is all the time, but it seems like the pot and the kettle to me. WMWY, you're merely "riding in" to back FP. FP's mess is of his own making, and I advise you to stay out of it.
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Post by SimMHoward on Jan 17, 2005 23:09:31 GMT -5
tch, next thing we know you'll order a general ban on all who have opposing viewpoints But seriously, you guys are giving him a hard time and I don't see the problem of me defending my friend, sorry, never read a rule against it.
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Post by SimMHoward on Jan 17, 2005 23:23:42 GMT -5
and for Johnna, I would like to say that I for one did not take part in bashing you, nor any other mod on this forum, I doubt I even bashed one of your members. Thats not really my style, but once again I sincerely challenge you to go to M4E, see what happens.
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Post by xpt626 on Jan 18, 2005 0:16:27 GMT -5
...you guys are giving him a hard time what goes around, comes around. Again -- FP's mess is of his own making. I suggest you stay out of it. ...I would like to say that I for one did not take part in bashing you, nor any other mod on this forum, well, FP did. So he is not at all in the dark about the "cold shoulder" he is getting here. I've been to M4E. I have a membership there. I've had many pleasant conversations with both Larry and Tess. I am not an "Active" member, because I am not a Beatles fan. Therefore, I have nothing to contribute to the board conversations.
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Post by jonna on Jan 18, 2005 8:09:02 GMT -5
and for Johnna, I would like to say that I for one did not take part in bashing you, nor any other mod on this forum, I doubt I even bashed one of your members. Thats not really my style, but once again I sincerely challenge you to go to M4E, see what happens. and i didn't even get a chance to say goodbye
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Post by eyesbleed on Jan 18, 2005 9:05:31 GMT -5
and for Johnna, I would like to say that I for one did not take part in bashing you, nor any other mod on this forum, I doubt I even bashed one of your members. Thats not really my style, but once again I sincerely challenge you to go to M4E, see what happens. I know there's some good folks at M4E, that I enjoy visiting with. But I get enough fantasy when I watch the news each day. I have no desire what-so-ever to come over to M4E & argue with you guys. That's yer forum & yer fantasy & I have no desire to disrupt that. I know you guys are DEAD wrong about JPM, but ya know what? I don't care.
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Post by revolver on Jan 18, 2005 22:41:55 GMT -5
hey now, what happened to this being a fair bored? All I can see is you guys putting him down. Maybe you should come over to M4E and see exactly what kind of welcome you get, you guys talk about how bad it is all the time, but it seems like the pot and the kettle to me. In general, M4E is much more intolerant of opposing viewpoints than NIR, IMO. Just try posting a PWR argument in their 'PID Hoax' section. I've tried it a few times, so I know what I'm talking about. They don't want to hear anything about PWR.
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Post by Red Lion on Jan 19, 2005 1:26:10 GMT -5
Now, in this next picture below, IMO, we have a very good picture of Bill. And we can see how Paul's features, are almost perfectly recreated, and made to appear, on a face of a totally different shape, and proportion, at least, as my eyes see it. This looks very much like Paul--if you focus on the features. Try not to for a moment. Focus instead on the head and cranium. Even allowing for the effects of lens type and how close the subjects face is to the camera; one still notices a remarkable difference in overall proportion. And, a little aging around the eye. Possible, yes, but......why would that be left in some headshots, but not all? Of course, the bottom photo IS close enough to the skin to see epidermal details a micron across; like the moon MIGHT be seen by the Hubble telescope, if ever that were allowed. (Maybe they don't want us to know the moon has zits.) Anyway, I offer this: I personally have issues as to the authenticity of this photo. I'm not sold that this is 100% JP or Bill, it looks to me like a composite. The hair is JP all the way. The head shape is in between ( a stretched pic maybe?). The eyes look 'dead' like Bill's. If it is Bill , which I doubt, it is the closest to JP he has ever gotten. So, RedLion, I ask, (with all due respect), is my car still idling in the ditch? ;D If you refer back to the fade we are discussing in this thread, you appear to be making a case for it. Yes, FP has banged that square peg into a round hole to make the facial features somewhat coherent. However despite his efforts we still have two very different looking men. Anyone who has looked at enough photos of JP/Bill is aware of this. So I ask do we really need to rehash what we already know?
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Post by FlamingPie on Jan 19, 2005 1:39:10 GMT -5
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Post by Red Lion on Jan 19, 2005 1:46:57 GMT -5
The only thing that is reliable are the negatives of photos taken before mid September 1966.
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Post by FlamingPie on Jan 19, 2005 1:53:35 GMT -5
The only thing that is reliable are the negatives of photos taken before mid September 1966. Have you ever seen any?
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