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Post by whammo on Jan 2, 2015 22:59:43 GMT -5
What I am getting at is another source of motivation for these things hidden in plain sight. You could call it the Illuminati, or simply the malevolent forces in this world. As I mentioned in another thread Yoko hit the nail squarely on the head when she said this: "They [The Beatles] were like mediums. They weren't conscious of all they were saying, but it was coming through them." We must remember that Yoko by her own admission is a witch: I can tell you at least some of the things in Albert Goldman's book "The Lives of John Lennon" are likely true, my dad personally observed J&Y going into a popup palm reading place at the unlikely address of Madison Ave. and 86th street in New York City. That block is some of the most expensive real estate in the world, these people had deep pockets. Jackie Onassis lived on that block.
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Post by whammo on Jan 4, 2015 0:36:34 GMT -5
BEATLES SONGS THAT MENTION THE SUN “Any Time at All” “Dear Prudence” “Good Day Sunshine” “Good Night” “Here Comes the Sun” “I am the Walrus” “I’ll Follow the Sun” “It’s All Too Much” “Julia” “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds” “Mother Nature’s Son” “Rain” “Sun King” “The Fool on the Hill” “Two of Us” “Yellow Submarine”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 11:57:34 GMT -5
Fun in the Sun lol
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Post by whammo on Jan 6, 2015 16:22:01 GMT -5
What's "mom" doing to that butter churn?
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Post by whammo on Jan 6, 2015 16:27:34 GMT -5
Fun in the Sun lol The "Fool on the Hill" is Jesus.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 16:44:49 GMT -5
Fun in the Sun lol The "Fool on the Hill" is Jesus. it really isn't so hard to make it to the top of that rock. oh and by the way, I go by Lucy now. lol
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Post by whammo on Jan 7, 2015 7:02:37 GMT -5
The "Fool on the Hill" is Jesus. it really isn't so hard to make it to the top of that rock. oh and by the way, I go by Lucy now. lol Hey baby?
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 7, 2015 14:05:24 GMT -5
Who is a witch? Yoko? Perhaps so, but for some a witch is something evil, and for others it's a different concept. For others all forms of witchcraft is evil, even that which calls itself "White".
I personally am not a fan of anything "bewitching", but it still exists. Are we on a witch hunt? Or are we trying to find an answer to questions people ask, but really don't have the answer.
We can discuss and assume, and make presumptions, but the purpose is showing witchcraft in the "arts"? We also should be looking to the fables and childhood stories that people have been telling their kids. Look at the cartoons....witches are all around...and they are in Washington...they are in our state capitals....
They live in the woods, and they live in the mansions....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 22:50:33 GMT -5
“A fool and his money” from Badfinger’s song Come and Get It, featured prominently in The Magic Christian. fool (n.) late 13c., "silly or stupid person," from Old French fol "madman, insane person; idiot; rogue; jester," also "blacksmith's bellows," also an adjective meaning "mad, insane" (12c., Modern French fou), from Latin follis "bellows, leather bag" (see follicle); in Vulgar Latin used with a sense of "windbag, empty-headed person." Cf. also Sanskrit vatula- "insane," literally "windy, inflated with wind." The follis (plural folles, later Italian follaro, Arabic fels) was a type of coin in the Roman and Byzantine traditions. The word follis means bag (usually made of leather) in Latin, and there is evidence that this term was used in antiquity for a sealed bag containing a specific amount of coins. It is also possible that the coin was named Follisin The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus, directed by Monty Python’s Terry Gilliam, the character Tony Shepherd is played by four different actors. Heath Ledger, Colin Farrell, Jude Law and Johnny Depp. Heath Ledger is hung in his last two films. The Hanged Man card is even used in Dr. Parnassus in reference to Tony Plus he wears this clown/joker outfit. The Fool on the Ledgethe Thoth Fool with his bag of coins. The word follis means bag in Latin, and there is evidence that this term was used in antiquity for a sealed bag containing a specific amount of coins.Tony inserts a pipe into his throat in order to survive the hangings. Danny from the shining has a little man in his throat named Tony. Mt. Parnassus is a mountain sacred to Apollo. Danny wears his Apollo sweater. “Don’t believe everything you read in the mirror” – Dr. Parnassus Halloran always calls Danny “Doc”. In Tim Burton’s Batman, The Joker throws money into the streets while gassing the people with hot-air balloons. More air bags/money/fool symbolism. In The Dark Knight Rises, Matthew Modine (Pvt. Joker) continuously calls Robin a “hothead”. lol
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 8, 2015 12:34:17 GMT -5
I don't watch popular movies made these days, though there are some from way back that I do recall...they are disturbing images.
Makes you wonder the people who create these images, who do they serve?
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Post by ekauqodielak on Dec 6, 2018 3:03:55 GMT -5
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Post by joseph on Dec 6, 2018 17:19:59 GMT -5
I was reading this thread yesterday while browsing beatlies post history. I took a screenshot of the cover of Terry Southern's TMC and added it to a tweet thread I started in early 2017 about the symbolism of the heart (or hole) in the palm of a hand. I believe it is a symbol satanist secret societies use for human sacrifice. I am not at all surprised to see it linked to The Beatles.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Dec 6, 2018 20:32:59 GMT -5
I was reading this thread yesterday while browsing beatlies post history. I took a screenshot of the cover of Terry Southern's TMC and added it to a tweet thread I started in early 2017 about the symbolism of the heart (or hole) in the palm of a hand. I believe it is a symbol satanist secret societies use for human sacrifice. I am not at all surprised to see it linked to The Beatles. Link to your tweet thread? I'll admit that, despite having spent most of my life working in a variety of visual media, I rarely pick up on graphic symbols (...or remember names...). Textual symbology/metaphor, I grab easily, but with visual art (and music) I "can't see the trees the for the forest" (or hear the cello for the orchestra).
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Post by joseph on Dec 6, 2018 23:58:30 GMT -5
I was reading this thread yesterday while browsing beatlies post history. I took a screenshot of the cover of Terry Southern's TMC and added it to a tweet thread I started in early 2017 about the symbolism of the heart (or hole) in the palm of a hand. I believe it is a symbol satanist secret societies use for human sacrifice. I am not at all surprised to see it linked to The Beatles. Link to your tweet thread? I'll admit that, despite having spent most of my life working in a variety of visual media, I rarely pick up on graphic symbols (...or remember names...). Textual symbology/metaphor, I grab easily, but with visual art (and music) I "can't see the trees the for the forest" (or hear the cello for the orchestra). In early 2017 while I was investigating pizzagate and what turned out to be a distraction psyop from pizzagate that was George Webb's "Where's Eric Braverman?" facebook group, I did a compound search of twitter with the words Haiti + Partners (partners being one of the favourite words of these shady foundation linked orgs) I couldn't help but notice many of these charities and foundations were using variants of this motif in their avatars. Then I was somehow reminded of the stigmata of Christ, so I took screenshots and tweeted them with the question "Does a hole in the hand mean sacrificing Christian children to Satan? #Pizzagate #Pedogate" Then something made me repurchase a video game that I had enjoyed in 2008-09 that was set in a post-apocacalyptic Washington DC. To much shock as I was doing a mission very early in the game, I stumbled across one of these symbols. It's so subtly done that it hasn't made it into this games internet folklore, but these symbols are scattered throughout the vast open-world game in places that looked like they were used as ritual sacrifice sites. The game was called Fallout 3, by Bethesda studios - a company founded by a man who married Linda Carter - who herself was involved in many of the same shady "Heart foundations" Then the symbol just kept cropping up everywhere. Most worryingly as the logo for Child Protective Services (CPS) A G4S armored van that went by me The movie Logan's Run - which is about killing people off when they get to 30 - which then bled into a spin-off of Fallout 3 (New Vegas) Then to top it all, I had at the time been spending all my time looking after my mother who was terminally ill in her own home. I had neglected my own flat and one night it was like a voice was telling me I had to go home that evening and check on the place (it had been a couple of months). So as I turned the corner of my street I saw a "POLLING STATION" sign at the local Catholic primary school. The election was for the Manchester Mayor's race, I wasn't going to vote because some time previous I had noticed the Labour candidate was likely involved in pizzagate's blackmail aspects, but I went in to cast a spoiled card.As soon as I walked in I was met by this symbol all over one of the walls as artwork by the pupils. They weren't child-sized palm prints so they must have been given to the kids to work with. I decided I would go down the next day and film it. Here is the video of me questioning the headmistress. youtu.be/ZJBGKPcAHZ0Since this investigation into this symbolism, pizzagate and the Hillary Clinton ratlines, I highly suspect that the Catholic church is using it's primary schools in England to traffic orphaned children from poorer countries to the UK for use in Satanic sacrifices, sexual abuse and organ harvesting. Unfortunately I accidentaly deleted the original tweet (which had over 50 retweets and was viewed over 10,000 times) from which the thread followed in multiple (now disconnected) paths, but the tweets I've linked to connect to all the important ones - including the meme's appearance in UK's #1 soap opera shortly before the Manchester Arena false flag/hoax that happened mere days after the Mayor of Manchester was elected - one of the "victims" was buried in a Coronation Street coffin. Yes folks we a ruled by a secret-but-hidden-in-plain-view Satanic cult.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Dec 8, 2018 5:03:34 GMT -5
I began writing a big long thing, but don't have the brain power to finish it right now & want to respond.
Watched your video. I'll concede that those paintings do kind of look like ransom notes, but my brother and I both made lots of hand-based art in secular primary school and I think the usage of hands in that arena is mostly because of ease and availability. Odd that it pops up in the video game. More on hand symbol in the long thing I haven't finished gathering all my thoughts on yet.
Tying this sort of closer back to the board topic, a thought that crossed my mind was the time at which The Beatles (including all the Pauls) were born: just before or during WWII. Lots of orphans. Lots of orphans probably taken in by, as you mention, Catholic or other religious schools/orphanages. Lots of kids suddenly alone with no paper trail -- I say, as history repeats itself on the US/Mexican border. One common question raised by the theory of Beatles Multiples is, "Uh, well, where the hell would they get these people willing to give up their lives to pretend to be a boybander for paparazzi pics?" Maybe the Pauls had their autonomous lives taken away very early on -- and this leads back to The Pop Band As Intel Op theory. If not Satanic, the brainwashing techniques used in MKUltra were certainly frequently amoral and torturous. Have you read at all about The School of The Americas?
I'll try to finish my longer post over the weekend.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Dec 9, 2018 0:15:05 GMT -5
1st: joseph I'm sorry about your mom. I lost my father a little over a year ago. More than anything, it's stunned me that the species continued after the first person lost the first parent, that a decision wasn't made immediately to pack it all in and end the experiment after that initial completely dismantling experience...World keeps turning, world keeps turning... ---------------------------------------------------------The Rest: OK, this still isn't quite as thorough or clear (holy, tangle of run-on sentences, Batman!) as I'd like to make it, but 1) This is all fairly off-topic within this thread context & I don't want to completely derail from the subject at hand and 2) I'm sort of exhausted of thinking about all of this, because I feel like I've been thinking about one facet of this or another since the summer of 2000, in the lead up to the first election I was old enough to vote in ...confession: I voted for Nader (who, in hindsight, was probably at least a part-time Russian stooge) because I couldn't stomach Liebermann...but, instead of time giving perspective that fine tunes perception, it feels more like a pile of dirty laundry in the corner that started with one stinky sock and is now on the verge of completely overwhelming the room. Please, do not take what follows as a personal invective, but as my general and long brewing thoughts on the landscape we find ourselves in, which is what it is. So, here's my take on "Haiti" or whatever.... So, okay, time-traveling back to the year that fake-White-House-reporter/real-gay-escort Jeff Guckert/James Gannon blew his cover with laughably dumb questions during press briefings and was revealed to have spent a third of the year as an over night guest in Bush Jr's White House, I fell down the Johnny Gosch/Franklin Scandal rabbit hole. I have no doubt that there is a vast sex trafficking pipeline, funded with laundered money stolen by oligarchs from citizens around the world. Neither do I doubt that pedophilia may be rampant among the perversions that the clientele of this pipeline seek to sate. I think I've read enough about Masonic/Minerval secret society ceremonies/rituals to appreciate that most of these people have a really fucked up idea of a "good time". And it seems, if not a given, pragmatically expedient for these people, and any engaged in illicit industry, to have covert means of identifying and communicating with one another. However.... 1) As an atheist, my stance is that you can jump around shouting abracadabra and eating eye of newt all you want but it won't make the supernatural real. Over the last several years, I have met a handful of Christians, three of them former Catholic nuns, who have forced me to soften my stance on theists because they're genuinely really wonderful people. But I see them as being wonderful despite their faith rather than as a result of it. To me, all of Christianity is a blood cult that worships a zombie and whose adherents require (supernatural) threats of being set on fire for (an imaginary) eternity in order to behave ethically towards natural allies whom they instinctually respond to as enemies in this very real earthly world. 2) The genesis of pizzagate as a meme, as a mental infection, clearly was brewed up and lobbed out from the same sweaty, underlit Odessa basement full of Russian neckbearded keyboard warriors, as was all of the propaganda to follow (see: facebook, any website that still has comment sections, & a multitudinous et cetera...). Pizzagate (and Q to follow) was, also, quite plainly, being run as a classic co-intel scheme -- take enough facts to appear superficially legitimate, dunk them in an alphabet soup of fiction and, by the time the public has eaten everything in the bowl, all the truths have been diluted and distorted and everybody's gobbled down nonsense words and are focusing on the wrong thing, they're listening for secret codes in each other's burps. This is the same shit they're doing with The Moon Landings -- throw in a disinfo agent and an AI hive who claim to believe the earth is flat (!) to toxify every discussion about the Van Allen Belts and NASA's own admissions about their impenetrability and most people will feel too foolish to bring the subject up with anyone In Real Life because it's now associated with Flat Earthers. Similarly, in terms of misdirection, focus and energy was expended by *someone* using pizzagate to distract from *something* about sex trafficking, probably underage sex trafficking, and I think that someone was very successful at, "Oh, look over there!" What's been most interesting about all of that to me is how successful the social engineering has been. They have people completely brain washed. And the people brain washed themselves! Our success as a species has hinged on our advanced capabilities for pattern recognition. The problem arises when hints and hums and coincidence are strung together to tell a story that they don't really tell. Then, you've got half of your audience shadow boxing tree limbs shifting in the wind, the owls become flying monkeys and before you know it we're shouting abracadabra putting eye of newt in our alphabet soup. Dialing Down To The Clintons (or the negative space around them): With regard to the smear campaign that’s been waged against those two since they dared to “not stay in their places” by climbing to the upper rungs of power, even as so many lackeys for the true “blood-line elites” stomped on their fingers all the way up, time is ticking. No Angels | No Demons: The Clintons are lawyers. Have you ever met an ethical lawyer? If you have, he's probably a shit lawyer. 2/3rds of the players in D.C. are lawyers — and the ones who aren’t, are worse: they’re prep-school trust fund MBA brats who couldn’t formulate an original thought even if you threatened their stock portfolios and who will help anyone higher than they are on the payroll (and cocktail party invite list) to bury a body in the desert, no questions asked. No one who names Henry Kissinger as an inspiring role model is “a good egg”; neither, is anyone who has a Koch brother, a Mercer brother, Putin or Rupert Murdoch in their mobile call history list. And I think most of us would agree that anyone with the arrogance to believe that they are particularly cut out to lead the free world should be remanded to intensive therapy for their self-aggrandizing personality disorder rather than actually being given the reigns to lead anything. With Bill, the loathing is more simplistic: "your daddy wasn’t the right daddy" and "goddamn you for having such strong personal magnetism that even women who we tricked into hating you and otherwise straight men want to fuck you". I mean, for fuck’s sake, they tried to impeach him for lying about a blow job. Show me a man who hasn’t, under questioning and, for that matter for no reason at all, lied about a blow job. It's not a fireable offense and the original question was completely inappropriate to the context, to begin with. Foundational Background Tangent: Briefly (lol), I believe both Bernie Sanders and Barack Obama were put in place in an effort to prevent H. Clinton from attaining the Presidency. Sanders, as time and financial disclosures will reveal, has been on the FSB (post-KGB) payroll for decades (hint: anyone in Congress who has gone to bat for the NRA is on that same payroll). With Obama, who was launched out of absolutely nowhere and hadn’t even completed a single term in the Senate, things are a little trickier. I don’t know the degree to which he was unwitting about being an asset to the right-wing agenda ("my hero and favorite president was Reagan"...), but he most definitely was and the majority of the electorate, on both sides, were almost entirely unwitting to the purpose behind the push for him. So, you wind up with a bunch of racists responding to him similarly to the way the old money, blue-blood country club set responded to B. Clinton, in this case: "how dare you (think 3/5ths rule is over and) mistake yourself for being equal or even superior to us, how dare you accomplish more than we ever will." Meanwhile, the ideologic weathermen those racists look to to tell them what to think, are getting exactly what they want and, incidentally, general morale is boosted by finally again having someone in the Oval Office who can use multi-syllabic words in complete sentences and whose *appearance* (and a lot of this is about appearances of one sort or another) signals to the average non-racist of all political stripes that hey maybe we are actually making some social progress and evolving, albeit it glacially slowly, as a society, maybe there's *hope* to be had after all.... With Hillary, you have the aforementioned “your daddy isn’t the right daddy”. You have a varied “how dare you (as a common cunt) demand to be treated as a human being, much less as superior to any man (call us back when you have legalized civil rights to bodily autonomy -- which will be never if we have any say in the matter and we have and will retain all the say)” and all the nuances of misogyny that go along with that sentiment (every facet of her appearance being grounds for dismissal from the public life; assumed responsibility for male partner’s behavior and even the behavior of the husbands of members of her staff; inability to express anger in public without being perceived as a shrill unhinged bitch; perceived as simultaneously defensively weak because of her gender and, somehow, also, as a war monger, etc. etc. etc. etc.). Additionally, you have this very curious wicked faerie tale whisper campaign that begins being waged against her right after she cockblocks Putin’s oil deal. This is different from the slurry of smears The Clintons' rivals and enemies have tried to drown them with since their Arkansas days. This new assault is all about asserting demonstrably false criminal accusations from the mundane (having a private email server in operation prior to the law going into effect which required usage of governmental servers) to the outlandishly absurd (cannibalism and kiddie diddling). In many instances the stories told are much more revealing of the people telling them than of Clinton; they can't imagine this woman ever having sex with her husband, but they can not only imagine her raping small children but they're fixated on the idea. Personally, as someone who is not sexually attracted to children, the concept never even comes to mind -- except when I'm reading something and another fucking pedo starts claiming to see clues about pedophilia in a lunch receipt. I'm sure many of those people were harmed as children, but Hilary Clinton wasn't the priest who did it and she's not the one molesting their step-daughter, either. The vituperative psychosis “conservative” puppet-masters have managed to induce in a solid chunk of the electorate (and bystanders, alike) against her is truly jaw dropping. This is stratospheric playground bullying. I mean, they’ve convinced people that she literally eats babies, which would be cartoonishly laughable if this perpetuated horroscape folie-en-masse weren’t having such terrifyingly dire effects on the quality of life of every earth-bound mammal who doesn’t live off of dividends. Objectively, any thinking person examining the situation must wonder what else the old money blue-bloods, royalty and oligarch money launderers feared she might do, had she the power to do it. The right wing, authoritarian, faux-theist fascists who are trying to take us back to a time of feudalism are never going to be able a create another boogeyman as effective as the one they have turned H. Clinton into. Her self-defensive reserve has aided scaremongers by providing blank spots on the surface of her persona upon which a hypnotized public has been guided to project their worst anxieties. The FSB laptop jockeys have even gotten Americans, who constitutionally and functionally are their own government, repeating Russian propaganda about the American government (themselves) being an enemy force, verbatim, didn’t even change any nouns. I am profoundly impressed by the orchestration of The FSB and their allies’ machinations and, also, terrified that we (meaning all carbon-based life forms on Earth) won’t survive said machinations. The Clintons are old. They’re going to die. We’ve seen the pressure and intensity of this hypnotic act of war amp up rapidly as time swings on. The FSB has radicalized millions of unwitting people who are now foot soldiers waging war against themselves. Putin, et al., are not going to wait until after their fantasy boogeymen are dead to call checkmate. In fact, the Russian government publicly ceded in court documents last month that, had they hacked into election systems, something for which there is unquestionable forensic computer evidence that they did, that it should be considered an act of war... All of that to say: the one who smelt it dealt it. Freud may have been lecherous cokehead, but he was onto something with 'projection'. Can we trace back the first usage of the term 'pizzagate' or the individuals who hacked the Democratic (and Republican, but that's a whole 'nother bribery thread...) servers and suggested that a nefarious secret code about child rape lurked between the lines of mind numbingly boring emails about flight reservations and meeting minutes? There's all kinds of fucked up disgusting shit going on that no one of sane mind is really keen to learn exists or about which they really want to hear details. There’s enough of it going on and going on brazenly and sloppily enough that a group of people involved in one such endeavor decided they needed to deflect attention away from their own or their allies' involvement. So, they said the Devil did it, I mean Hillary Clinton, same difference, right? Just look at all the coincidences they've cherry picked from decades of world history (to the exclusions of all those important facts they don't want outsiders to know about)! They must be right! They only gave me 10 letters of the alphabet, but if you arrange them correctly, they spell one name over and over again. That woman is a witch! Burn her, drown her, pelt her with stones. People will believe it. People have been *conditioned to believe* anything about her. It’s not like she’s going to hold a press conference to announce, “I do not eat babies in imaginary pizza parlor basements.” And even if they don't believe it, we'll get enough sock puppets up & spouting our talking points that the doubters will at least be convinced that, given how many other people do believe our story, it would be futile for them to try to push back against with logic or facts or math. Who has benefitted from this story? Sure hasn’t been sex trafficking victims! Why would a group want (or need) to radicalize their base? What can you do with zealous ideologic propagandized warriors that a regular sympathetic supporter would balk at? Anything you ask them to do.
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Post by beatlas231 on Dec 9, 2018 2:22:21 GMT -5
1st: joseph I'm sorry about your mom. I lost my father a little over a year ago. More than anything, it's stunned me that the species continued after the first person lost the first parent, that a decision wasn't made immediately to pack it all in and end the experiment after that initial completely dismantling experience...World keeps turning, world keeps turning... ---------------------------------------------------------The Rest: OK, this still isn't quite as thorough or clear (holy, tangle of run-on sentences, Batman!) as I'd like to make it, but 1) This is all fairly off-topic within this thread context & I don't want to completely derail from the subject at hand and 2) I'm sort of exhausted of thinking about all of this, because I feel like I've been thinking about one facet of this or another since the summer of 2000, in the lead up to the first election I was old enough to vote in ...confession: I voted for Nader (who, in hindsight, was probably at least a part-time Russian stooge) because I couldn't stomach Liebermann...but, instead of time giving perspective that fine tunes perception, it feels more like a pile of dirty laundry in the corner that started with one stinky sock and is now on the verge of completely overwhelming the room. Please, do not take what follows as a personal invective, but as my general and long brewing thoughts on the landscape we find ourselves in, which is what it is. So, here's my take on "Haiti" or whatever.... So, okay, time-traveling back to the year that fake-White-House-reporter/real-gay-escort Jeff Guckert/James Gannon blew his cover with laughably dumb questions during press briefings and was revealed to have spent a third of the year as an over night guest in Bush Jr's White House, I fell down the Johnny Gosch/Franklin Scandal rabbit hole. I have no doubt that there is a vast sex trafficking pipeline, funded with laundered money stolen by oligarchs from citizens around the world. Neither do I doubt that pedophilia may be rampant among the perversions that the clientele of this pipeline seek to sate. I think I've read enough about Masonic/Minerval secret society ceremonies/rituals to appreciate that most of these people have a really fucked up idea of a "good time". And it seems, if not a given, pragmatically expedient for these people, and any engaged in illicit industry, to have covert means of identifying and communicating with one another. However.... 1) As an atheist, my stance is that you can jump around shouting abracadabra and eating eye of newt all you want but it won't make the supernatural real. Over the last several years, I have met a handful of Christians, three of them former Catholic nuns, who have forced me to soften my stance on theists because they're genuinely really wonderful people. But I see them as being wonderful despite their faith rather than as a result of it. To me, all of Christianity is a blood cult that worships a zombie and whose adherents require (supernatural) threats of being set on fire for (an imaginary) eternity in order to behave ethically towards natural allies whom they instinctually respond to as enemies in this very real earthly world. 2) The genesis of pizzagate as a meme, as a mental infection, clearly was brewed up and lobbed out from the same sweaty, underlit Odessa basement full of Russian neckbearded keyboard warriors, as was all of the propaganda to follow (see: facebook, any website that still has comment sections, & a multitudinous et cetera...). Pizzagate (and Q to follow) was, also, quite plainly, being run as a classic co-intel scheme -- take enough facts to appear superficially legitimate, dunk them in an alphabet soup of fiction and, by the time the public has eaten everything in the bowl, all the truths have been diluted and distorted and everybody's gobbled down nonsense words and are focusing on the wrong thing, they're listening for secret codes in each other's burps. This is the same shit they're doing with The Moon Landings -- throw in a disinfo agent and an AI hive who claim to believe the earth is flat (!) to toxify every discussion about the Van Allen Belts and NASA's own admissions about their impenetrability and most people will feel too foolish to bring the subject up with anyone In Real Life because it's now associated with Flat Earthers. Similarly, in terms of misdirection, focus and energy was expended by *someone* using pizzagate to distract from *something* about sex trafficking, probably underage sex trafficking, and I think that someone was very successful at, "Oh, look over there!" What's been most interesting about all of that to me is how successful the social engineering has been. They have people completely brain washed. And the people brain washed themselves! Our success as a species has hinged on our advanced capabilities for pattern recognition. The problem arises when hints and hums and coincidence are strung together to tell a story that they don't really tell. Then, you've got half of your audience shadow boxing tree limbs shifting in the wind, the owls become flying monkeys and before you know it we're shouting abracadabra putting eye of newt in our alphabet soup. Dialing Down To The Clintons (or the negative space around them): With regard to the smear campaign that’s been waged against those two since they dared to “not stay in their places” by climbing to the upper rungs of power, even as so many lackeys for the true “blood-line elites” stomped on their fingers all the way up, time is ticking. No Angels | No Demons: The Clintons are lawyers. Have you ever met an ethical lawyer? If you have, he's probably a shit lawyer. 2/3rds of the players in D.C. are lawyers — and the ones who aren’t, are worse: they’re prep-school trust fund MBA brats who couldn’t formulate an original thought even if you threatened their stock portfolios and who will help anyone higher than they are on the payroll (and cocktail party invite list) to bury a body in the desert, no questions asked. No one who names Henry Kissinger as an inspiring role model is “a good egg”; neither, is anyone who has a Koch brother, a Mercer brother, Putin or Rupert Murdoch in their mobile call history list. And I think most of us would agree that anyone with the arrogance to believe that they are particularly cut out to lead the free world should be remanded to intensive therapy for their self-aggrandizing personality disorder rather than actually being given the reigns to lead anything. With Bill, the loathing is more simplistic: "your daddy wasn’t the right daddy" and "goddamn you for having such strong personal magnetism that even women who we tricked into hating you and otherwise straight men want to fuck you". I mean, for fuck’s sake, they tried to impeach him for lying about a blow job. Show me a man who hasn’t, under questioning and, for that matter for no reason at all, lied about a blow job. It's not a fireable offense and the original question was completely inappropriate to the context, to begin with. Foundational Background Tangent: Briefly (lol), I believe both Bernie Sanders and Barack Obama were put in place in an effort to prevent H. Clinton from attaining the Presidency. Sanders, as time and financial disclosures will reveal, has been on the FSB (post-KGB) payroll for decades (hint: anyone in Congress who has gone to bat for the NRA is on that same payroll). With Obama, who was launched out of absolutely nowhere and hadn’t even completed a single term in the Senate, things are a little trickier. I don’t know the degree to which he was unwitting about being an asset to the right-wing agenda ("my hero and favorite president was Reagan"...), but he most definitely was and the majority of the electorate, on both sides, were almost entirely unwitting to the purpose behind the push for him. So, you wind up with a bunch of racists responding to him similarly to the way the old money, blue-blood country club set responded to B. Clinton, in this case: "how dare you (think 3/5ths rule is over and) mistake yourself for being equal or even superior to us, how dare you accomplish more than we ever will." Meanwhile, the ideologic weathermen those racists look to to tell them what to think, are getting exactly what they want and, incidentally, general morale is boosted by finally again having someone in the Oval Office who can use multi-syllabic words in complete sentences and whose *appearance* (and a lot of this is about appearances of one sort or another) signals to the average non-racist of all political stripes that hey maybe we are actually making some social progress and evolving, albeit it glacially slowly, as a society, maybe there's *hope* to be had after all.... With Hillary, you have the aforementioned “your daddy isn’t the right daddy”. You have a varied “how dare you (as a common cunt) demand to be treated as a human being, much less as superior to any man (call us back when you have legalized civil rights to bodily autonomy -- which will be never if we have any say in the matter and we have and will retain all the say)” and all the nuances of misogyny that go along with that sentiment (every facet of her appearance being grounds for dismissal from the public life; assumed responsibility for male partner’s behavior and even the behavior of the husbands of members of her staff; inability to express anger in public without being perceived as a shrill unhinged bitch; perceived as simultaneously defensively weak because of her gender and, somehow, also, as a war monger, etc. etc. etc. etc.). Additionally, you have this very curious wicked faerie tale whisper campaign that begins being waged against her right after she cockblocks Putin’s oil deal. This is different from the slurry of smears The Clintons' rivals and enemies have tried to drown them with since their Arkansas days. This new assault is all about asserting demonstrably false criminal accusations from the mundane (having a private email server in operation prior to the law going into effect which required usage of governmental servers) to the outlandishly absurd (cannibalism and kiddie diddling). In many instances the stories told are much more revealing of the people telling them than of Clinton; they can't imagine this woman ever having sex with her husband, but they can not only imagine her raping small children but they're fixated on the idea. Personally, as someone who is not sexually attracted to children, the concept never even comes to mind -- except when I'm reading something and another fucking pedo starts claiming to see clues about pedophilia in a lunch receipt. I'm sure many of those people were harmed as children, but Hilary Clinton wasn't the priest who did it and she's not the one molesting their step-daughter, either. The vituperative psychosis “conservative” puppet-masters have managed to induce in a solid chunk of the electorate (and bystanders, alike) against her is truly jaw dropping. This is stratospheric playground bullying. I mean, they’ve convinced people that she literally eats babies, which would be cartoonishly laughable if this perpetuated horroscape folie-en-masse weren’t having such terrifyingly dire effects on the quality of life of every earth-bound mammal who doesn’t live off of dividends. Objectively, any thinking person examining the situation must wonder what else the old money blue-bloods, royalty and oligarch money launderers feared she might do, had she the power to do it. The right wing, authoritarian, faux-theist fascists who are trying to take us back to a time of feudalism are never going to be able a create another boogeyman as effective as the one they have turned H. Clinton into. Her self-defensive reserve has aided scaremongers by providing blank spots on the surface of her persona upon which a hypnotized public has been guided to project their worst anxieties. The FSB laptop jockeys have even gotten Americans, who constitutionally and functionally are their own government, repeating Russian propaganda about the American government (themselves) being an enemy force, verbatim, didn’t even change any nouns. I am profoundly impressed by the orchestration of The FSB and their allies’ machinations and, also, terrified that we (meaning all carbon-based life forms on Earth) won’t survive said machinations. The Clintons are old. They’re going to die. We’ve seen the pressure and intensity of this hypnotic act of war amp up rapidly as time swings on. The FSB has radicalized millions of unwitting people who are now foot soldiers waging war against themselves. Putin, et al., are not going to wait until after their fantasy boogeymen are dead to call checkmate. In fact, the Russian government publicly ceded in court documents last month that, had they hacked into election systems, something for which there is unquestionable forensic computer evidence that they did, that it should be considered an act of war... All of that to say: the one who smelt it dealt it. Freud may have been lecherous cokehead, but he was onto something with 'projection'. Can we trace back the first usage of the term 'pizzagate' or the individuals who hacked the Democratic (and Republican, but that's a whole 'nother bribery thread...) servers and suggested that a nefarious secret code about child rape lurked between the lines of mind numbingly boring emails about flight reservations and meeting minutes? There's all kinds of fucked up disgusting shit going on that no one of sane mind is really keen to learn exists or about which they really want to hear details. There’s enough of it going on and going on brazenly and sloppily enough that a group of people involved in one such endeavor decided they needed to deflect attention away from their own or their allies' involvement. So, they said the Devil did it, I mean Hillary Clinton, same difference, right? Just look at all the coincidences they've cherry picked from decades of world history (to the exclusions of all those important facts they don't want outsiders to know about)! They must be right! They only gave me 10 letters of the alphabet, but if you arrange them correctly, they spell one name over and over again. That woman is a witch! Burn her, drown her, pelt her with stones. People will believe it. People have been *conditioned to believe* anything about her. It’s not like she’s going to hold a press conference to announce, “I do not eat babies in imaginary pizza parlor basements.” And even if they don't believe it, we'll get enough sock puppets up & spouting our talking points that the doubters will at least be convinced that, given how many other people do believe our story, it would be futile for them to try to push back against with logic or facts or math. Who has benefitted from this story? Sure hasn’t been sex trafficking victims! Why would a group want (or need) to radicalize their base? What can you do with zealous ideologic propagandized warriors that a regular sympathetic supporter would balk at? Anything you ask them to do. Writing memos on the forum now, are we... That’s quite a read to say the least. Pizzagate feels more like the movie plot to Oceans 8 (saw the trailer, all I needed to hear of was a jewel heist) I’m a little curious though about the firing of Comey. That really feels as if it was done deliberately, as if they both planned it together. I say that because Trump has made several code-word references that really makes me question if the firing was a way to setup an interview broadcasted live on several issues. Something you can learn from listening to the original testimony, but why is Jeff Sessions testifying the very next day? And yes I’m deliberately asking questions because if there’s a Carter Page, I don’t buy his Lebron James FBI leadership story just because it would involve a private citizen and legally wouldn’t be allowed to publicly say their name (for the time being, anyway) Trump said the FBI was filled with “Rotten Apples” & it’s a Phoney investigation. Key words here. Not only that, he manages to Twitter attack Lebron James, Don Lemon, & John Brennan under 24 hours apart. With all of that relevant, do you really think Hillary had a shot at winning while Trump had Campaign Advisors with the names Paul Manafort & Roger Stone Very very bizarre September 30th, 2016 - not really paying attention to the politics, but in hindsight my oh my! Posted 2 days after the Presidential Inaguration (1/22/17) which begs the question, what in the hell is a Paul Manafort & Roger Stone? Is it, is it them or... very good doubles..
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Post by beatlas231 on Dec 9, 2018 2:32:03 GMT -5
By the way you should definitely work for the FBI, you’d be great at writing really long memos that people only find out about at the last minute & have to scroll to the end of the memo to figure out what the hell is happening...
... is what a friend told me one time.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Dec 9, 2018 3:58:42 GMT -5
If I had to work for the FBI, I'd either want to work on the X Files or in the (we know it must exist at this point) Fake Ear Division.
I know, it's incredibly long and very densely worded. If you just keep stacking words atop each other, eventually you can build a house.
The most important angle to all this seems to me to be that, with very few exceptions (like 40 year old fan photos they couldn't predict would be scanned and uploaded for all to study so many years later), we only find out what has been intentionally disclosed to us. And, a few errors and exceptions aside, the things that are disclosed are made available either because they're irrelevant or to shape public opinion.
Also, semi-convinced that Mike Pence and Roger Stone are the result of two guys with different bone structure wearing the same latex head.
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Post by beatlas231 on Dec 9, 2018 15:16:47 GMT -5
If I had to work for the FBI, I'd either want to work on the X Files or in the (we know it must exist at this point) Fake Ear Division. I know, it's incredibly long and very densely worded. If you just keep stacking words atop each other, eventually you can build a house. The most important angle to all this seems to me to be that, with very few exceptions (like 40 year old fan photos they couldn't predict would be scanned and uploaded for all to study so many years later), we only find out what has been intentionally disclosed to us. And, a few errors and exceptions aside, the things that are disclosed are made available either because they're irrelevant or to shape public opinion. Also, semi-convinced that Mike Pence and Roger Stone are the result of two guys with different bone structure wearing the same latex head. For what it’s worth, you asked about the first Pizza Reference. Can’t recall the candidates name off the top of my head - Herman Cain! “Imagine there’s no pizza” Remember that nice tune.. Pizzagate sounds less like a child sex ring and more like a conspiracy theory involving a group of Americans under investigation having sexual encounters with an “Individual 1” Both received payments for silence (but why did 1 orchestrate it?) & I’m not sure why there’s no mention of Trump directly. Pretty sure the investigation had nothing to do with Trump and was just American /Russia Counter Intelligence involving 4 Americans, all of which that can’t be publicly named because of ongoing investigations (something tells me I’m one of them but you’ll never hear me verbally agree with it
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Post by ekauqodielak on Dec 9, 2018 19:24:29 GMT -5
Yes, "Unnamed Co-Conspirator No. 1". The tie to Trump is his "modeling agency", which funneled sex trafficking victims from Eastern Europe to NYC. I knew someone in New York who, actually, as she referred to it was a "hooker booker" for Trump's agency. Occasionally, a guy would call just wanting arm candy for a party...but mostly not and some of the requests were very oddly specific, as I guess much sexuality is. I believe Melanoma was given to him as a party favor.
I'd be super sad if there was no pizza. But what I really want to know is why "self-heating" meals are reserved for disaster zones. There should be a whole aisle in every grocery store of Self-Cooking Foods. Like they could just put a variation of those hand warming packets that you shake to make hot in with some food-like substance and as long as your wrists work you could have a steaming lump up something before even having a chance to think about finally learning to cook.
Edit to add (as it's actually on-topic!!!): The "Hooker Booker" was a vocal (studio recording) stand-in for Stevie Nicks and had toured with her for much of the 70s/early 80s.
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Post by joseph on Dec 9, 2018 22:18:30 GMT -5
If there was nothing to pizzagate, why would so many people delete all references to "pizza" from their twitter accounts? The trouble with doing that is they can't delete the replies to their pizza-related tweets which also contained paedophile innuendo.
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