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Post by Harb on Apr 1, 2004 13:40:52 GMT -5
Hello, I received an email earlier from a member of your forum, directing me here. I own the Paul is Dead website 'Officially Pronounced Dead' www.paulisdead.co.uk and it looks like this is a great place. I look forward to talking about the conspiracy with you all, and will be happy to answer any questions you have about it all. Harb paulisdead.co.uk
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Post by JoJo on Apr 1, 2004 16:12:07 GMT -5
Yes Harb, I'm the guilty party! ;D I really liked the MMT booklet analysis, I don't think any of us found as many clues as you did, although I believe we discussed some. Thanks for joining, i hope you enjoy it!
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Post by FlamingPie on Apr 1, 2004 17:13:47 GMT -5
Nice site, but if your strory said Paul died 11/9/66, than why do you have clues for Help, Rubber Soul, Revolver, etc.?
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Post by revolver on Apr 1, 2004 18:28:25 GMT -5
Nice site, but if your strory said Paul died 11/9/66, than why do you have clues for Help, Rubber Soul, Revolver, etc.? I don't think Harb believes PID. He's just documenting the supposed clues. Is that correct, Harb?
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Post by Harb on Apr 1, 2004 18:32:44 GMT -5
Nice site, but if your strory said Paul died 11/9/66, than why do you have clues for Help, Rubber Soul, Revolver, etc.? Because the PiD conspiracy isn't real, which means that clues can be found anywhere and then twisted to make it seem like McCartney was brown bread. There's a lyric clue in the song 'I'll Follow the Sun' which was on the Beatles for Sale LP but I didn't include it because it was too far before 1966 and it was too vague. But if you look hard enough you'll always find clues in something, that's what makes the PiD thing so entertaining! At the moment, there's 297 individual PiD clues on my site, about a quarter of which (I believe) are exclusive to my site. The reversal in Blue Jay Way was discovered by me.
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Post by southpaw on Apr 1, 2004 18:50:21 GMT -5
Well Harb I don't understand how anyone can deny the substantial differences in facial structure in video's such as rain compared to any later video or footage with faul. I had LSD interview side to side with the rain video and the differences are striking. I know it was a fun hobby collecting clues but this is very serious issue, which should not be feared in venturing into. As for earlier clues or any clue for that matter is that it is subjective. but the huge gap of "paul's" drastic change in appearance in only a few months is undenialable I don't see how anyone can view the Strawberry fields video and think they are seeing James P.
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Post by FlamingPie on Apr 1, 2004 19:03:52 GMT -5
Yes, there were a couple of pics on Uberkiner's site that looked nothing like Paul - the ones from '67.
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Post by revolver on Apr 1, 2004 19:06:58 GMT -5
Because the PiD conspiracy isn't real, which means that clues can be found anywhere and then twisted to make it seem like McCartney was brown bread. I believe PWR based primarily on the photographic and vocal differences between Paul and Faul. Admittedly not all the clues are valid. But a few are so blatant that they must have been placed deliberately. For example "Paul's" black carnation in MMT. Or the new taller "Paul" standing with his back to the camera on Sgt. Pepper. Either the Beatles were playing a long-running macabre joke on their fans (which they all vehemently denied) or they were trying to provide some clues as to what really happened. I believe the latter.
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Post by Harb on Apr 1, 2004 19:24:16 GMT -5
The person with his back turned on the back cover of Pepper is apparently Mal Evans (who stands in at about 6ft 3in tall). The story goes that Paul didn't turn up for the photoshoot because of a really bad hangover and so Mal was forced to stand in. He turned his back for obvious reasons!
But I admit that some of the facial differences are very eerie. There was definately some change - maybe the violent face-to-gravel accident that split his lip left some scarring, and so plastic surgery was used to 'pretty' him back up again?
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Post by FlamingPie on Apr 1, 2004 19:28:42 GMT -5
I belive Paul got a nose and ear job. But for that guy being Mal Evans, what about the pic of (PF)aul being half turned in the CD booklet?
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Post by jerriwillmore on Apr 1, 2004 19:36:47 GMT -5
Paul said himself the Beatles put "little clues" in thier music. (he told a DJ that over the phone while promoting "anthology."
No comment. ;D
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Post by Harb on Apr 1, 2004 19:51:09 GMT -5
I belive Paul got a nose and job. But for that guy being Mal Evans, what about the pic of (PF)aul being half turned in the CD booklet? Like I said, it was a rumour. And as with all rubbish rumours there's a very simple way to debunk them Incidently, I've never owned the CD copy of the LP (even though I have 4 copies on vinyl)
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Post by FlamingPie on Apr 1, 2004 20:13:18 GMT -5
Like I said, it was a rumour. And as with all rubbish rumours there's a very simple way to debunk them Right, I was just saying it couldn't be Mal.
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Post by eyesbleed on Apr 1, 2004 21:10:14 GMT -5
Paul said himself the Beatles put "little clues" in thier music. (he told a DJ that over the phone while promoting "anthology." No comment. ;D It would be kinda silly for Faul to try to deny them since they are there for all to find. After his dumb excuses for things like the black rose & the bare feet on Abbey Rd etc etc.... I find it wise to not believe anything he "recalls" about Beatle history. And he's contradicted himself on several occations... another reason to not believe him. Besides, the audio clues aren't really any kind of evidence or anything. They're sorta the fun part of this whole deal. Oh ya.....WELCOME ABOARD HARB!!
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Post by revolver on Apr 1, 2004 21:44:54 GMT -5
The person with his back turned on the back cover of Pepper is apparently Mal Evans (who stands in at about 6ft 3in tall). The story goes that Paul didn't turn up for the photoshoot because of a really bad hangover and so Mal was forced to stand in. He turned his back for obvious reasons! Yeah, that's the cover story. Plastic surgery doesn't explain the reduction in the distance between his eyes, though. Besides, we have photos and video stills of Paul after the moped accident, and his face had the same proportions as earlier photos.
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Post by revolver on Apr 1, 2004 21:47:36 GMT -5
Paul said himself the Beatles put "little clues" in thier music. (he told a DJ that over the phone while promoting "anthology." No comment. ;D Little clues to what, one might ask. Was he admitting to promoting the PID "hoax" or just that it was a practical joke, I wonder.
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Post by JoJo on Apr 1, 2004 22:37:25 GMT -5
I don't think Harb believes PID. He's just documenting the supposed clues. Is that correct, Harb? Probably true, but Harb has a good eye for detail. The pre Sgt Pepper clues are there on his site I assume because they have been put forward as clues for many years, so why not mention them? If you start from the premise of Paul replaced after late 1966, then anythng before that proposed as a clue is a problem.
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Post by Harb on Apr 2, 2004 7:10:36 GMT -5
Personally at the moment I don't believe that the legend is true. The thing that convinced me that he is alive and well was on the video for the solo Macca song 'It's Coming Up' and had Paul playing various instruments in the background. Yes, He's dressed exactly like William Campbell playing the keyboards, but when he was dressed up at the 1964 Paul it was identical to how he looked back then.
But there are things that make you wonder!
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Post by eyesbleed on Apr 2, 2004 8:57:27 GMT -5
, but when he was dressed up at the 1964 Paul it was identical to how he looked back then. Not really. There's a still from that around here somewhere & it's looks kinda goofy. But even for us hardcore PID-ers, there are times when he looks more like James Paul than others. About 90% of the time I can easily tell Bill from Paul, but every once in a while, a picture will be posted that's kinda tough to tell. The still from Coming Up isn't one of them.
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Post by madtitan125 on Apr 2, 2004 13:29:44 GMT -5
For me, the main indisputable difference (other than height, difference in space between eyes, eye color, body type: slight vs. athletic, the many, many changes between faul's face itself thru the years and the many scars he has) is the shape of faul's head in comparison to jp's.
Faul's forehead is just too darn large! And his head is way too tall. Just compare head shapes. Some good photos for this were the pix posted comparing profiles.
Is there anyway someone could try to place JP's hair onto Faul's too-tall head? Or vice-versa? They just would'nt fit.
We would sure come up with some funny, out of proportion looking graphics.
A resemblence? Yes. An identical match? No way!
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Post by eggy on Apr 2, 2004 15:43:48 GMT -5
Hello, I received an email earlier from a member of your forum, directing me here. I own the Paul is Dead website 'Officially Pronounced Dead' www.paulisdead.co.uk and it looks like this is a great place. I look forward to talking about the conspiracy with you all, and will be happy to answer any questions you have about it all. Harb paulisdead.co.uk Welcome Harb!!! Congratulations for your site, great job!!
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Post by oracledelphi on Apr 20, 2004 6:53:12 GMT -5
Hello, I received an email earlier from a member of your forum, directing me here. I own the Paul is Dead website 'Officially Pronounced Dead' www.paulisdead.co.uk and it looks like this is a great place. I look forward to talking about the conspiracy with you all, and will be happy to answer any questions you have about it all. Harb paulisdead.co.uk It could be really great if......... Please upgrade it!
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Post by Harb on Apr 21, 2004 7:13:05 GMT -5
Upgrade? Could you please be more elaborate?
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Post by LarryC on Apr 21, 2004 15:10:55 GMT -5
Hi Harb, I enjoyed your site very much myself, especially the MMT booklet. All of the middle pages in mine have been lost due to several moves and, even more significantly, having raised three children through their curious toddler years of getting into everything that wasn't locked away. It was nice to see those images again. I have never possessed the SGT Pepper CD either as I have 3 copies on vinyl, which I've converted to my own CDs. One of my SGT Peppers is the collector's edition issued late '70's or early '80's where the big cover photo is on the vinyl disk itself. It's virgin vinyl too ;D as it's NEVER been played ;D The others haven't been so fortunate as my original US Capitol release is pretty well scratched up...I was a kid when I got it, but I replaced it later with one with the green apple label
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Post by eyesbleed on Apr 21, 2004 17:33:57 GMT -5
Hi Harb, I enjoyed your site very much myself, especially the MMT booklet. All of the middle pages in mine have been lost I recently got an(almost) mint condition LP on ebay just so I could have that booklet again... but it cost me $27.!
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