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Post by Doc on Mar 22, 2004 4:08:41 GMT -5
OK, ok, I did not know where to put this.
But, I was having a discussion with a close friend of mine about an auto wreck that he had 10 years ago or so. He enlightened me to a part of his immediate care that I don't think I ever knew about, or it didn't sink in before. Anyway, part of his injuries (he's fine today) included dislocating his hip. I think the ball of the left leg came out of the hip socket. To treat this, they have three strong guys restrain you and twist and shove your leg in some perscribed way and then pop the leg back into the socket. It is very painful, he said, but he doesn't remember the pain at all. When I asked why he told me that they administered an amnesia drug before this procedure thatas is implied, blocks your memory, mainly short term, I think. The rationale behind this is that you HAVE to be conscious for the procedure so that you can respond to questions as they reinsert the hip ball-socket.
Well, the next day, a male nurse came to ask him about the day before. My friend said he did not remember a thing. He didnot have a memory of the procedure, the pain, the three fellows assisting the hip relocation, or the way that he struggled and fought like an animal because the pain was so intense. He told the guy, "I've never seen you until today." Well, the nurse told him a little about the struggle the day before and how agonized he was, and how violent (from pain) he became. Apparently at one point he hurled the smallest guy across the room. (My friend is 6'3".) My friend has ABSOLUTELY NO MEMORY OF THIS TO THIS DAY.
How astonishing. Did this drug (he can't remember the name, but I think he said it was distantly similar to Versed, that may not be right, I'll check more into it) exixt in the 60's? Could it have been used on John, or any one else?
Maybe some people never said a word---because they simply, honestly, couldn't remember! A dose of this, he told me, requires an antidote, apparently, which he recieved the next day, so he could start making memories again. Again, he claims to have NO memory of the hip relocation incident AT ALL.
Isn't there a movie out now with someone where their fiancé can't remember who her boyfriend is from day to day?(Or is it the other way around?) Anyway, maybe they never spoke 'cause they didn't exactly know..............
Or, Paul is Alive and this is just one more hypothesis about an old yarn..........
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Post by TKIN on Mar 22, 2004 4:15:05 GMT -5
If the left Beatles and relatives took that drug so there is no reason about ALL that clues left by them.
Always the same references. Why?
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Post by Doc on Mar 22, 2004 4:42:34 GMT -5
UNless the clues came forth from a traumatized mind; one in which certain things were locked in the subconscious, so that only these "clues" and utterances bubbled forth from a silent, hidden realm in the sub-conscious. I am not sure if the drug prevents memory formation period, or just the conscious awareness of these "locked out" memories. Will look into it.............
What has the family done? I know about the remaining Beatles, as far as all the reverse speech, or back maskings, and pointed spoofy digs that they spewed out directly at times (including Paul).
Why aren't we looking into the Herman's Hermits, or Pau Revere and the Raider's, or Lulu? Did these people never devise clues (not about Paul, of course, but their own other dramas) why is it all about the Beatles? The Animals, Led Zeppelln, where are the clues? Where are the clowns? There ought to be clowns.....don't worry, they're here............la-la-lal-laaaaaaaaaa. la-la-la-laaaaaaaaaa-losing my timing this late, in my career.......
Sorry, I lapsed. I had a "Little Night Music" moment. Now, Stephen Sondheim, (who wrote "Send in the Clowns" and the musical "A Little Night Music", I am telling those who ignore Broadway) GENIUS lyricist--that man could do some sharp analysis............................he is a genius composer of Broadway show music as well..........
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Post by Doc on Mar 22, 2004 4:48:18 GMT -5
But yes, I see what you mean, TKIN!.
Always the sheep, a white VW Beetle, the walrus, the police van, a crowd of people, head damage, the strangely marked bass guitars, flowers, carnations, roses, the Queen, Palace guards, policemen, headstones, busts, roads, Berrys, Austin -Martins, etc...........Lewis Carroll,
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Post by TKIN on Mar 22, 2004 5:01:52 GMT -5
But yes, I see what you mean, TKIN!. Always the sheep, a white VW Beetle, the walrus, the police van, a crowd of people, head damage, the strangely marked bass guitars, flowers, carnations, roses, the Queen, Palace guards, policemen, headstones, busts, roads, Berrys, Austin -Martins, etc...........Lewis Carroll, ...and Sir Walter Raleigh... Take a look at: invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=Clues&action=display&thread=1079710306 |
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Post by -Wings- on Mar 22, 2004 13:07:49 GMT -5
So you're saying The Beatles carried out this alleged replacement because they were experiencing "eternal sunshine of the spotless mind"?
It's possible, but above all else, wouldn't they realize Bill wasn't Paul the moment they saw him? To the fan he may look like Paul, but wouldn't they have enough memories of the geniune article for logic to scream at them that this wasn't the same guy?
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Post by DarkHorse on Mar 22, 2004 13:11:17 GMT -5
It seems to be like it would be null and void as soon as John and the others took a look at Bill. He would still remember what Paul looked like but it's possible 'how' Paul died could have been masked by an amnesia drug.
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Post by eggy on Mar 22, 2004 13:35:57 GMT -5
I think that they allowed Bill to be with the Beatles just because they thought that it was the better way to go on without Paul, just because that.  |
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Post by Doc on Mar 22, 2004 17:32:49 GMT -5
Well, yes, I see the point there. THe amnesia drug, my friend said, only prevents memory formation while it is active. Events that you experienced before the administration of it are still accessable. So, its primary use is to block memory of something in ADVANCE. If the doctor is about to put you thru something unpleasant, it is useful to safe you from recall of the trauma, and living it over and over again.
I suppose it might have been useful whenever they might have been called back (alledgedly) at the first of the news. If they had to see something unpleasant, etc., or anything that it was desirable to be blocked from their minds. So, if PID happened, they had to of course known about it, but some other things may have been blocked forever from their minds this way. This way, with an incomplete picture, John could have been told an alternate fact or two pertaining to the way things happened. So, perhaps he could have lived with an incomplete, or inaccurate picture.
But then again, this drug may not have existed then, and maybe it was not chosen to be used anyway. So, it was just a fleeting thought.............if PWR, certainly the other Beatles HAD to have noticed. If Paul is Alive, then Lennon was especially working off of a very strange mindset, creatively.
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Post by DarkHorse on Mar 22, 2004 17:45:56 GMT -5
You know perhaps it's US who are on the amnesia drugs. With all of the hypnotic TV programming(i.e. 'news'), fluroide in the water, mercury poisoning, aspartame, alcohol and drug abuse, etc. our brains can hardly function normally. Perhaps when we fully believed that the Paul of today was the same person as the Paul pre-1967, we were in some type of trance and had amnesia as to what Paul really looked like which created this belief that Paul was/is the same person today as was yesterday....
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Post by Doc on Mar 22, 2004 18:14:15 GMT -5
Yes, quite.
You know, the photos I see (not just on the internet) make it seem as if it's "Paul of the Week" sometimes, a revolving door, open position for a consecutive stream of "Paul's" who each enjoy a brief stint with the Beatles. (Actually, I have some issues with George's face, as well, but I don't think he was replaced. I think his jaw-line looks different after Revolver, his facial fat drops to zero and it never was much anyway) but so many different impressions of "Paul" (in the 60's) can be seen from any source of Beatle-regalia. From the seventies on there is great consistency.
I often notice how people around are really good at identifying one car model from another---------among other categories of belongings. Is it a perceptual weakness (results from the TV-junk food-flouride-drug trance) or does it relate more to the perception that "Doubles" can't exist?
Or, maybe we are very much, "only dreaming....."
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Post by xpt626 on Mar 23, 2004 1:28:22 GMT -5
I had a similar result with a procedure in 2000. I was given something by IV (no idea what it was) and have no memory whatsoever of the procedure, although I was awake the entire time, and they tell me I was watching the monitor and making comments ;D
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Post by TKIN on Mar 23, 2004 4:14:41 GMT -5
You know perhaps it's US who are on the amnesia drugs. With all of the hypnotic TV programming(i.e. 'news'), fluroide in the water, mercury poisoning, aspartame, alcohol and drug abuse, etc. our brains can hardly function normally. Perhaps when we fully believed that the Paul of today was the same person as the Paul pre-1967, we were in some type of trance and had amnesia as to what Paul really looked like which created this belief that Paul was/is the same person today as was yesterday.... 's quality is always on the top. |
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Post by Doc on Mar 24, 2004 1:58:12 GMT -5
TKIN!, sorry to interpret----but your complement to Darkhorse from above is saying:
Darkhorse's quality IS that he doesn't finish last.
Correct?
The seasoned bettors lay odds on the darkhorse. The darkhorse wins the race. Oh happy day.
Soon the darkhorse is the leading contender.
The darkhorse always had it in him. It just took determination on his part, and recognition from the key players.
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