Where does this pic come from?

[Mellow Yellow]

I assumed it was from MMT but I got the movie and its not there...... (I was expecting the movie to be soo much more........ Dissapointment to say the least)

Here is just some other nonsense I was kicking around...

Anyone else here think that the pics of Paul with the elvis-esque hair from the early days look too faul-ish?

MAYBE...... Paul isnt dead.... He was horribly misfigured and had to get his face fixed and thats why he looks/sounds/acts different?

Or maybe Paul isnt dead..... He was horribly misfigured and locked away to this day in someones cellar, and when Faul needs a good hit he makes Paul write him one for a crust of bread?

Mayhaps Faul impregnated Linda with sperm samples that he stole from Paul (who lives in Faul's basement) so that James would look more like Paul?

[JoJo]

Penny Lane video, or rather a still from the shooting of..

Doubt this strange looking Paul a a scant few months away from Sept '66 is the result of a fixed up accident victim.

I'm pretty sure you're joking about the rest, except for your comment about the early pics looking Faulish.

[lili]

Those are interesting comments, Mello. I think that it's just a coincidence that James looks like Paul. Orrrr......
Maybe, Bill IS related to Paul. A cousin, perhaps. It's not unheard of for kids to look more like a relative than a parent.
Anyone remember The Patty Duke Show

[LOVELYRITA]

What amazes me when looking at these photos, was the world in a drug induced haze, being dumbed down to think this was James Paul Mc cartney? We should have thought something odd for the time out of the spotlight and then this strange new look?

[JoJo]

Remember a post that illustrated Dick Clark seemingly gathering reactions from kids in the American Bandstand audience, and some of the kids' reaction..(eww, yuck, they look so old)

That was predictable, but Clark seemed to be feeling things out, trying to see if anyone would ask: Who the hell is that? No one would ask that, because it would never occur to anyone, it isn't the same guy. That says more about conditioning rather than a drugged out state, such a thing isn't even possible, right?

[beatlies]

jojo said:

Remember a post that illustrated Dick Clark seemingly gathering reactions from kids in the American Bandstand audience, and some of the kids' reaction..(eww, yuck, they look so old)

That was predictable, but Clark seemed to be feeling things out, trying to see if anyone would ask: Who the hell is that? No one would ask that, because it would never occur to anyone, it isn't the same guy. That says more about conditioning rather than a drugged out state, such a thing isn't even possible, right?

You have that video in a link in the JoJo shoebox website right? I remember some of the teenagers in the audience, who seemed visibly upset, maybe confused and angry, said remarks to the effect that they didn't look like the Beatles, one girl said "they look like my grandfather."

I wonder if Clark was under directions to test the teenagers' reaction to the fact that JPM had been replaced (and perhaps one or more of tthe John/George/Ringo they saw were also doubles) ...

[lili]

That was predictable, but Clark seemed to be feeling things out, trying to see if anyone would ask: Who the hell is that? No one would ask that, because it would never occur to anyone, it isn't the same guy. That says more about conditioning rather than a drugged out state, such a thing isn't even possible, right?

That is so very true.

I wonder if Clark was under directions to test the teenagers' reaction to the fact that JPM had been replaced (and perhaps one or more of tthe John/George/Ringo they saw were also doubles) ...

That wouldn't surprise me in the least !

[noodles]

lovelyrita said:

What amazes me when looking at these photos, was the world in a drug induced haze, being dumbed down to think this was James Paul Mc cartney? We should have thought something odd for the time out of the spotlight and then this strange new look?

What about the fake Osama confession video? The guy has a barely passing resemblence for Osama but few questioned whether it was him. The power of suggestion is a remarkable thing. What Icke says about us editing out much of what we see is very true.

Then you have 'the bigger the lie the more people will believe it' aspect of this. The idea of replacing Paul is so ridiculous to most people that they won't accept anything other than the belief that that picture is the real Paul McCartney.

Plus that's Paul Version 2A's worst angle. Similar to some of the shots in the 'ADITL' video. He's much more convincing in the actual video and more importantly he's barely in it. ;D

That said the LSD interview video is so clearly not JPM it's ridiculous.

[lili]

Noodles, I agree on all points.

[-Wings-]

Yeah. While I don't believe in the "everyone was replaced by the Illumaniti!" theories (all I know is that there are enough clues, evidence, and a motive for the replacement of Paul McCartney), I agree that the Osama confession video was in no way the original Bin Laden. He looked nothing like him, yet people bought it. Hell, I bought it at the time.

In late 1966, all of the Beatles grew mustaches and changed their hairstyles. John Lennon stuck with the granny glasses he got on the set of How I Won the War. They started wearing bright, colorful clothes. As the song says, "I'm painting the room in a colorful way." With all of these visual changes, they were able to blend in the replacement/replacements of Paul pretty damn well. By late 1967 and especially by 1968, they had the benefit of the passage of time as well as the replacement looking enough like the orignal Paul by that point (except far lankier).

[lili]

Sounds plausible to me, Wings.

[LOVELYRITA]

On the other site there are pics of the doubles of Ringo, George and John, and those pictures of George and John doubles were from MMT. There's even one thread that implies that Eric Clapton became George's Double. Well, we know there are ideas that Eric Clapton was replaced by a man who cannot play the guitar nearly as well as the original.

So when 1967 came around, doubles were used with Bill and they all look older and stranger. And we thought it was drugs, that affected their looks. Talk about the power of suggestion. We were told these were the Beatles and we believed it, on these strange videos of MMT and other music of that Sgt. Pepper era.

I'm a firm believer there was at least one other Faul around the time of 1967 because some of the pics, like the back cover Sgt. Pepper looks like Bill, but some with that time looks like a man who has similar facial shape to JPM. I've seen some pics on this forum and on the other two. But there were at least two Fauls.....Unless someone has been messing with the pics and that is possible, but still think there was another Faul.

[lili]

I think you're right Rita. I stand by my opinion that Neil Aspinall was recruited in the very beginning to replace Paul. I believe that he was lied to about Paul's death. When he found out the truth, he became unmanageable. I believe that he was then disposed of & his replacement has been living his life ever since.
I have alot of photos of Neil with the boys prior to 1967. I still think that he looks very different from the Neil from 1967 & onwards. I will be getting those photos together as soon as I have the time.

[lili]

Here's some photos that I've gotten together:

Neil, prior to 1967:

Neil and Paul.

I'm pretty sure this is Neil with Paul.

That's Neil sitting next to John.

That's Neil sitting next to Ringo.

That's Neil standing next to Brian.

Neil, after 1967:

In the above photo, Neil's standing next to John.

That's Neil sitting next to John. It's dated 9/18/1966. If that's the case, Neil's replacement had already taken his place. It's the same guy as the one in the photo above it !
That would mean that Neil was already being groomed to impersonate Paul. The ones behind this moved just that quickly ! John's face is unreadable in this photo.

Neil is standing next to Bill.

Neil is sitting next to John.

Neil is standing next to George.
The man standing next to George looks like the original Neil Aspinall. This photo was taken during the filming of MMT !
I think I'm seeing two differences between Neil & his replacement. One is that his replacement has a longer face & two, he has a larger chin.
Trying to figure this out can drive you nuts ! [img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Dunno2[1].gif"]

[noodles]

Interesting stuff, lili. In some pictures he does look different but in others the before and after Neil's both look the same. It's obviously a lot harder to work out as there are a lot less pictures of him and a lack of TV/movie footage.





Derek Taylor looks a lot like Robert Deniro.

[LOVELYRITA]

Why Feil's face is longer and thinner than Neil's.

Faul in this picture doesn't look like Bill, but looks more like JPM than that turkey in the red coat in the first post.

By the way, the one bearded dude is called Magic Alex, who is he?

[lili]

I have a vague memory of reading something about Magic Alex. He looks weird. Maybe he was their "dealer". Strange that he's the one holding the sign that says "THINK".
I have another photo of Faul/Bill & Johnny dressed in the same clothes. It must be from the same day. He looks so much larger than John. Note the difference in the size of their legs. Paul never looked like he was that much larger than John. He's built exactly like the Paul from today, so it must be the same guy!
Here it is:


Noodles, those two photos are a great comparison. Thanks for the help !

[noodles]

Magic Alex was basically a con man. You can read about him on Wikipedia. He gets a mention in that 1968 Apple interview that JoJo put in another tread. Also Paul is wearing that same jacket. This site dates that to May 1968 although I thought it was a lot earlier than that. Anyone know for definite?

[JoJo]

The Apple interview was pretty definitely in 1968, there seems to be plenty of agreement on that from books I've read.

That's 1968 Paul, just at a glance..

Magic Alex was indeed a con man, supposedly an electronics whiz, but he bought equipment at the Beatles expense and did pretty much nothing to very little with it.

[noodles]

I was thinking it was much earlier in 1968 JoJo (right at the start) but I had my India dates wrong. It actually makes a whole lot more sense if it's in May. I think that Apple interview is the first appearence of Stage 3 Paul and if it's May then it fits in with everything else.

[lili]

Noodles do you belong to the site that you quoted here ?:

Also Paul is wearing that same jacket. This site dates that to May 1968 although I thought it was a lot earlier than that. Anyone know for definite?

It won't allow me to open the photos, and there are photos there that I don't have. I tried joining up once, but they never e-mailed me a code to get in

[noodles]

I'm not lili but if you click on 'file' and then 'save page' then the pictures will be yours.

[lili]

Thanks, Noodles. I think I'm going to try to join up there again. I would much rather have the full sized photos, rather than the smaller versions.

[lili]

Here are a few more photos that I found. Did they do a press conference about the formation of Apple ? It seems that these photos are from a press conference, & John & Bill look the same as in that group photo from the formation of Apple Corps. This says to me that they were taken during the same time period.
Here goes:






In that last photo Bill is making a strange face. I have other photos of him making this same face. I have never seen a photo of Paul looking like that !

[lenmac]

There is one pic I have from that confrence that says June of 68: