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Post by TKIN on Mar 24, 2004 16:37:36 GMT -5
Already posted here in another thread. A hippo with a sheep fur. Strange isn't it? BTW The hippo as animal is very similiar to the walrus...but not the same. Another note. The hippo "should" be Faul. But in this frame is wearing the watch on his left wrist instead the right as James Paul did (and Faul then).
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Post by TKIN on Mar 25, 2004 4:27:09 GMT -5
...Where the heck did this come from? Billy Shears is Ringo. He sings the next song. You know: "The singers gonna sing a song...and he wants you all to sing along...so let me introduce to you...the one and only Billy Shears...and Sgt Peppers LHCB" and then Ringo sings. You do know Ringo sings "A Little Help From My Friends", right? ...so Billy Shears should be....Ringo. Well why that journalist tells: "A Beatle on the Wing, a Band on the Run... but Not Quite the Act You've Known for All These Years" By Ben Fong-Torres
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Post by -Wings- on Mar 25, 2004 5:04:30 GMT -5
I'll have to step in and defend the opinion that the "William Sheppard" name is a valid clue. It's one of the repeating motifs in post '66 Beatles that is hard to shrug off.
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Post by TKIN on Mar 25, 2004 7:45:38 GMT -5
I'll have to step in and defend the opinion that the "William Sheppard" name is a valid clue. It's one of the repeating motifs in post '66 Beatles that is hard to shrug off. Shears -> Sheppard <- Pepper Amazing coincidence.
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Post by scatman on Mar 25, 2004 8:26:36 GMT -5
Hi Wings. No need to defend. Not trying to shrug anything off yet -- just trying to get my facts straight regarding this whole Bill/sheep/sheppard/shears thing. TKIN! said that there are "too many coincidences" with Billy & Sheep so I wanted to see a little more substance to back up this statement. You also appear to agree saying it's "a continuing motif" so I welcome you and others to teach me. I'm open minded and I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong if in fact there are a ton of Billy & Sheep references. What I've seen so far in this thread doesn't convince me of anything more than coincidence.
The reason for that cover is the album is an orchestral/instrumental version of Paul & Linda McCartney's Ram album. Hence you have an orchestra player with a ram's head. Makes sense, no? So since it's based on the Ram cover (already a clue) I do not think you can use this album cover as more evidence.
It is strange but I don't feel this is really a clue. If you look at the cover of MMT three of the four Beatles wear the same sheepskin type clothing, so it's not fair or accurate to isolate Paul in that photo. Left vs right hand watch thing is a non-issue. Also saying a hippo is like a walrus is off topic. We're not talking about walruses or hippos -- only sheep as you said there are too many sheep references to ignore.
You're kidding, right? Journalist write catchy cover titles to sell magazines. This journalist thought he was being clever by combining Beatles + Wings + a line from Sgt Peppers. Has zero to do with "Billy Shears" being Paul McCartney. Besides, read the lyrics you posted -- the "ACT you've known for all these years" is the BAND ("act" refers to a group) and then later we hear the "SINGER wants to sing a song, and he wants you all to sing along, so let me intro to you, the one and only Billy Shears" and then RINGO sings taking the cue from the "B--i---l---l--y Shears!" ending.
Amazing? No. A stretch? Yes.
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Post by eyesbleed on Mar 25, 2004 8:33:13 GMT -5
Where the heck did this come from? Billy Shears is Ringo. He sings the next song. You know: "The singers gonna sing a song...and he wants you all to sing along...so let me introduce to you...the one and only Billy Shears...and Sgt Peppers LHCB" and then Ringo sings. You do know Ringo sings "A Little Help From My Friends", right? Billy Shears is not Ringo, it's Beatle-Bill, & to be honest, I'm not so sure that Ringo sings With a Little Help. Sure, it sounds like Ringo, but things are not always as they seem in Beatleland.
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Post by eyesbleed on Mar 25, 2004 8:43:28 GMT -5
I'll have to step in and defend the opinion that the "William Sheppard" name is a valid clue. It's one of the repeating motifs in post '66 Beatles that is hard to shrug off. Yes, I agree. I feel pretty confident that Beatle-Bill's real name is, in fact, William Sheppard.
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Post by scatman on Mar 25, 2004 8:53:04 GMT -5
If Ringo didn't sing "With A Little Help From My Friends" on Sgt Peppers then Sir George Martin is a liar. No other way to say it. Ringo still sings the song to this day on tour so he at least is going along with the ruse.
I'm fearing things could start to get ugly soon so I will stop posting on this topic unless I'm specifically asked to reply. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers. Believe what you believe...just be careful what you state as "fact" vs "opinion"
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Post by eyesbleed on Mar 25, 2004 9:39:43 GMT -5
If Ringo didn't sing "With A Little Help From My Friends" on Sgt Peppers then Sir George Martin is a liar. No other way to say it. Ringo still sings the song to this day on tour so he at least is going along with the ruse. I'm fearing things could start to get ugly soon so I will stop posting on this topic unless I'm specifically asked to reply. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers. Believe what you believe...just be careful what you state as "fact" vs "opinion" Oh... yer not ruffling any feathers, don't worry about it. I guess you could say G.Martin & others are liars sure, not that they have much of a choice at this point. There is the Beatle history that everybody thinks they know, & then there is the REAL Beatle history. So sure, there's lots of Beatle-lies out there... Like, they stopped touring because the music was getting too complicated & the crowds too noisy. uhhh.., Ya, right. Of course Ringo sings With a Little Help on tour. I would expect him to. BUt you've also got Bill out there singing Michelle, & Yesterday etc etc..... just as the masses would expect him to. Ya know.... at this point there's very little that I know as facts concerning this increasingly weird story. About the only thing that I'm absolutely sure about is the fact that 2 different men have been "Paul McCartney" over the last 40yrs. Other than that.... I think most of us here are literlly starting over from "scratch".
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Post by Fun King on Mar 25, 2004 10:30:44 GMT -5
I agree with the fact that the most probable real name for Faul would be William, but I don't see enough reasons to believe in "Shepperd". Shears? Could be.
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Post by TKIN on Mar 25, 2004 15:00:15 GMT -5
Billy Shears is not Ringo, it's Beatle-Bill, & to be honest, I'm not so sure that Ringo sings With a Little Help. Sure, it sounds like Ringo, but things are not always as they seem in Beatleland. 2:29 Ringo admits that he wasn't confident about that high note at the end. Here you can hear an edit to join on a successful attempt at the last phrase, beginning with the words "Ye/es I get by with-a-little-help-from my friends with-a-little ..."
at: www.stevesbeatles.com/songs/with_a_little_help_from_my_friends.aspInteresting all the site at: www.stevesbeatles.com/
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