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Post by Mellow Yellow on Dec 21, 2006 20:11:23 GMT -5
This has a demo version of Cry Baby Cry, followed by an extended version of Can You Take Me Back, which is my favorite beatle song. I like how it sounds so Native American, like it should come from the desert. I have been trying to find more music in a similar style, but to no avail. www.youtube.com/watch?v=
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Post by fourthousandholes on Dec 22, 2006 8:46:28 GMT -5
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Post by Doc on Dec 22, 2006 9:22:35 GMT -5
Yes yes true. Correct. That is completely right. Analysis can be so dusty and dry sometimes; but that kind never ceases to fascinate our minds.
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Post by lili on Dec 22, 2006 17:33:07 GMT -5
Do you mean, " Can you take me back where are people, can you take me back ? "
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Dec 22, 2006 18:17:05 GMT -5
Here are the lyrics as I hear them
*unable to hear the name* can you take me can you take me by the hand *inaudible name again* can you take me can you take me by the hand
*cant tell what he says at all during this line either, lol* Can you take me? Can you take me? Can you take me back...
Can you take me back where I came from, can you take me back? Are you happy living here honey? Honey are you happy living here?
I ain't happy living here baby Honey can you take me back?
Can you take me back where I came from, can you take me back? Can you take me back where I came from, brother* can you take me back? Can you take me back?
Hmm, can you take me ... where I came from Can you take me...... back...
I sometimes here Robert instead of brother
If it is Robert, do you think it is a reference to Doctor Robert? The doctor who slipped them LSD? Is he wanting to go back to pre-LSD days?
UPDATE: After poking around on songfacts I found this
Not relevantt o Cry Baby Cry, but on Paul McCartney's "Can you take me back?" contribution to Revolution #9 (because it came up already) McCartney doesn't sing "Brother can you take me back" as Mark Lewisohn thinks, or "Robert can you take me back" as claimed by others. He sings "Rowboat can you take me back?" He sings the line quite fast, but nevertheless there is a distinct long 'Ohh' after the 'R' as in Row . . . [+ boat], not a short 'O' as in Ro . . . [+ bert]. This makes more sense as he is trying to get back to some place and so he is somewhat poetically asking his mode of transport - namely a rowboat - for help. This song slice gives the impression that Paul had a new song (possible incomplete) lying around - or at least was never released as a Beatles song. Cheers! Lance - Lance, Adelaide, Australia
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Post by JoJo on Dec 22, 2006 18:48:49 GMT -5
Hmm well the rowboat business may just be a little somethin', lookie here:
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Dec 22, 2006 20:38:11 GMT -5
Interestingly, there is an image of a face grimmacing on the baby's body. notice the eyes in the chest area, a nose with flaired nostrils, quite disturbing. Where is Paulie rowing to...or from?
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Post by lili on Dec 23, 2006 18:18:11 GMT -5
That whole image is disturbing.
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Post by plastic paul on Dec 23, 2006 20:35:41 GMT -5
I have that book, a lot of the artistry is done in a similar fashion, reminds me of Monty Python.
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Post by JoJo on Dec 23, 2006 21:35:31 GMT -5
Just a random possible connection or two..
Cry baby cry Make your mother sigh She's old enough to know better So cry baby cry.
At twelve o'clock a meeting round the table For a seance in the dark With voices out of nowhere Put on specially by the children for a lark.
And..
When I find myself in times of trouble, mother Mary comes to me, speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
And then..
Jump when your momma tell you anything.
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Post by plastic paul on Dec 24, 2006 7:38:33 GMT -5
Yeah that's an interesting possibility JoJo, i'd never have thought of the connection, though perhaps that might explain the whole wizard thing in MMT. I know that these songs were later, but maybe MMT was when they were trying to make contact.
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Post by lili on Dec 24, 2006 12:32:28 GMT -5
I think the trips to India were also about that. I heard somewhere that Johnny went to India to purchase Hashish. Has anyone else heard anything about this ?
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Post by beatlies on Dec 24, 2006 15:02:32 GMT -5
Faul has a song on his first solo album called "Momma Miss America."
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Post by lili on Dec 24, 2006 17:06:32 GMT -5
How about Momma ( I ) Miss America ?!
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Post by beatlies on Dec 24, 2006 18:32:17 GMT -5
Momma Miss America is an instrumental track. Also on this "McCartney" (1970) album is this song-with-lyrics:
That Would Be Something artist: Paul McCartney lyrics title: That Would Be Something albums: McCartney, Unplugged (The Official Bootleg)
That would be something, It really would be something, That would be something, To meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain.
Oo-hmm-hmm, Oo-hmm-hmm, Oo-hmm-hmm, Meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain.
That would be something, It really would be something, Mm, that would be something, To meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain.
Meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain. Meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain.
That would be something, It really would be something, That would be something, To meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain. Meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain.
Oh, oh.
Meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain. Meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain.
Oh! Oh!
Uh, now, meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain. I meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain. Meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain. Uh, meet you in the falling rain, momma, Meet you in the falling rain.
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Post by lili on Dec 26, 2006 10:57:10 GMT -5
Those have to be the most annoying lyrics I have ever read. Paul would never, ever write anything as pedantic & repetitive as that !
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Post by plastic paul on Dec 26, 2006 20:27:02 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with repetition lili, it doesn't make it a bad song.
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Post by Red Lion on Dec 26, 2006 23:09:04 GMT -5
Paul would never, ever write anything as pedantic & repetitive as that ! You have placed him on a ridiculous pedestal.
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Post by eyesbleed on Dec 26, 2006 23:30:03 GMT -5
;D ...and what's fluff without repetition? Repetition uses up record space!
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Post by Doc on Dec 26, 2006 23:56:10 GMT -5
Paul would never, ever write anything as pedantic & repetitive as that ! You have placed him on a ridiculous pedestal. This is probably a wise word, Red Lion. Perhaps it is time that we conscientiously removed him from such a pedestal, just brought him right on down to earth, and reduced him to the level of the everyday common but decent human being. This is where most people would like to exist and are most comfortable. For instance: has anyone realized------that James Paul probably belched a time or two? Perhaps he kept a messy room from time to time. Wore his t-shirts 2 days in a row! Didn't press his tie or heaven forbid his button-down Arrow shirts. Ate 3 helpings at dinner. Bounced a check! Lied to the chaperone! Kept a young lady out 2 hours past her curfew! Wrote a song inspired by another one he heard on the radio! Played the wrong bass note during a live concert for which 50,000 shrieking juveniles had plunked down their entire allowance! They didn't pay to hear wrong notes, you know! (or right ones, either, sadly......) Look, people. We ALL wake up with morning breath. We put on our trousers one pant leg at a time. And throw up when we get occasional food poisoning. It's ugly, but it's true. And the biggest crusher of them all, oh, yes, I'm going to say it right here---- Everybody farts.
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Post by fourthousandholes on Dec 27, 2006 0:39:26 GMT -5
Yeh, but Lili's right. Paul wouldn't have written that. ;D
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Post by Doc on Dec 27, 2006 3:05:37 GMT -5
It does not seem like his style, no.
The three verse thing seems to appear a lot in earlier Beatle songs, with a repeat or near repeat of the chorus after each. Pretty standard I guess.
The falling rain song seems to be a bit mono-thematic doesn't it? Something about he hopes to run into his mother in a rain-shower and how remarkable that would be. Wrong: Perhaps there is a deeper, hidden meaning intended there. Songs about parents and inclement weather are hardly hot lyrics in 70's pop music.
Oh, but it's "momma" in the metaphorical sense, I know, I know. And it isn't really just raining outside, now is it?
At least it isn't:
I ran into my Dear Old Mother today, whilst walking in a London Park, so gay, I said I worried so, That she might come and go, Amidst a nasty rain and catch a nasty cold.
She said, "Don't worry son, I've got my boiler suit, An anorak, some wellies, and a bumbershoot. Now if you ask me why, It's so that I'll stay dry, While fording where a lorry's giving it the boot.
Dreadful. Thank you. Now, aren't you glad Sir Paul wrote it HIS way?
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Post by Doc on Dec 27, 2006 6:20:27 GMT -5
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Post by beatlies on Dec 27, 2006 7:02:19 GMT -5
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Dec 28, 2006 2:15:31 GMT -5
Hijacked!!
But, I really am going to use some of those in my day to day conversation now, just so I can sound cultured and worldly ;D
Now to go back to trying to learn Let It Be, you can really tell that Faul is left handed because the right hand just plays bar chords while the left hand plays a bit more busy part. Both parts are simple, but I cant seem to play them simultaneously.
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