Iraqwar Exclusive:
ISI revealed as fake front while the resistance consolidates its powerBy: Syrian on: 19.07.2007 [16:05 ] (779 reads)
Iraqwar Exclusive:
CIA "captures" their patsy coinciding with the formation of a resistance political alliance against al-CIAda. Al-Mashadani, who was caught this month, has told his U.S. military interrogators a prominent al Qaeda-led group is just a front and its leader fictitious, a military spokesman said on July 18, 2007. Brigadier-General Kevin Bergner told a news conference that Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, leader of the self-styled Islamic State of Iraq, which was purportedly set up last year, did not exist.
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Al-Mashadani, who was caught this month, has told his U.S. military interrogators a prominent al Qaeda-led group is just a front and its leader fictitious, a military spokesman said on July 18, 2007. Brigadier-General Kevin Bergner told a news conference that Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, leader of the self-styled Islamic State of Iraq, which was purportedly set up last year, did not exist.
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While all attention has been focused on the theatrics between London and Moscow, two significant pieces of information has been overlooked by the "alternative stream media".
Al-Mashhadani, the head of the now known to be FAKE Islamic State in Iraq (ISI) group, was ironically captured by USAn forces. Brig. Gen. Kevin Bergner has claimed that during interrogation Al-Mashhadani has admitted that he was involved in the setup of the fake group to entice Iraqis to join Al-CIAda. The leader of the fake group was quoted saying (3) that he had used "an actor with an Iraqi accent ... for audio recordings of speeches posted on the Web."
Given the truly origin of the Al-CIAda "network", it is not known what the true motivation of the USAn forces is behind the capture of a man who is probably working for them, albeit indirectly. One may speculate that they have abandoned the current strategy of trying to dissolve the resistance movements into their controlled groups.
This speculation conveniently comes in light of the fact that, on the 19th of July, the resistance (2) had formed an alliance consisting of 7 groups namely Jaim, Al-rashadeen, 1920s brigades (falluja), Ansar al-Sunna and others. Holding a meeting in Damascus they resolved to announce the following statements:
The resistance is against Al-CIAda, Saudi/Forgien groups, for example attacks under the name "ISI".
The resistance has nothing to do with the Ba'ath party.
They are against all forms of sectarianism and are actively fighting against those who sow the seeds of hate within the fabric of the Iraqi society.
They are for completely free and independent elections once the occupation is removed, along with the liquidation of the puppet regime which does not represent any Iraqi.
All laws passed by the puppet regime/occupation representation are hereby void and will amount to nothing for outside interests once the occupation is expelled from all Iraqi land.
To quote the guardian article:
"The Iraqi insurgency, ... leadership has remained shadowy and has largely restricted communication with the outside world to brief statements on the Internet and to the Arabic media."
Indeed, there does not seem to be any hierarchy in the Iraqi resistance movements, a fact lamented by such groups as the Mossad and the CIA. This is where the ISI (Islamic State in Iraq) was meant to come in. This alleged group, posing as some sort of "emirate" operating in Iraq, in conventional political structure with a leader and a well defined hierarchy and ideology.
This announcement by the resistance will be having agents like Negroponte banging their heads on the wall. The USAns want nothing more than an enemy defining themselves as a solid concrete block like the alleged group "ISI". By defining your ideology before victory, you will alienate other good people who are willing to fight alongside you. This is a mistake which none of the current resistance groups in Iraq have committed, and clearly their latest unified announcement exemplifies this fact since no patriotic Iraqi can disagree with any of it. By defining a leadership or hierarchy, you are placing all your trust and all your interest in a pyramidal structure, which can easily be corrupted and controlled.
This has been seen time and time again, in the Palestinian resistance, whose leaders are periodically assassinated, corrupted and controlled even unknowingly.
This was the plan for Iraq, through the ISI group. This was truly, the USAns final trump card, a card which has withered in the wind and now the resistance awaits their sweet, sweet victory.
(1)
www.smh.com.au/news/world/us-says-iraqi-rebel-head-is-an-invention/2007/07/19/1184559957228.html (2)
www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2129675,00.html
(3)
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289889,00.html
23 comments
indeed...
by susie on 19.07.2007 [19:21 ]
..Fair play Syrian. I hope this is right.
i told you so..
by VIETCONG on 19.07.2007 [19:21 ]
jihad USpun...
nice one syrian
by pob on 19.07.2007 [20:50 ]
you said a while ago you were gonna post something like this, and about time!!!
i know of at least one ex poster on this site who now has no-one to wank off to.
As for the true motive behind capturing the man
by Spies_and_Traitors_will_be_Shot on 19.07.2007 [21:18 ]
was they needed a victory. He must have been some middle man who didn't know what he was working for, didn't think he would sing did they.
Perhaps ISI became something they didn't need anymore. since the resistance where not biting the bate
and check this out
by Spies_and_Traitors_will_be_Shot on 19.07.2007 [21:38 ]
"IN MARCH, he was declared captured. In May, he was declared killed, and his purported corpse was displayed on state-run TV.
On Wednesday, Omar al-Baghdadi, the supposed leader of an al-Qaeda-affiliated group in Iraq, was declared non-existent by US military officials, who say he is a fictional character created to give an Iraqi face to a foreign-run terrorist group."
h ttp://www.smh.com.au/news/world/us-says-i...4559957228.html
IDIOTS!
Euh
by intissar1 on 19.07.2007 [22:11 ]
If they did their meeting in Damascus ... something with the Baath they have to do, especially the 1920s brigade.
Let us put things in context maybe they ain't the "Iraqi Baath" or "Saddam Hussein Baath" maybe but that's it. In other words this confirm that the resistance is indeed mostly Baathist.
On being Bush.
by Throw_Off_The_Killer on 19.07.2007 [23:08 ]
Remember the good ol' days George?...
..mid September back in...
The crowds. The cheers.
Remember those days George?
Those days are gone, aren't they?
Bad day come now.
What happened to the dream?
Bush is alright
by Throw_Off_The_Killer on 19.07.2007 [23:28 ]
There are many drugs to combine.
@stopwar - sceptical
by _merk_ on 19.07.2007 [23:56 ]
my thought exactly on first hearing about this. BUT then one hears about some CIA and military being pissed beyond belief at the Bush regime ... and maybe they arranged it so that the news couldn't be held back?
@seele
by Throw_Off_The_Killer on 20.07.2007 [00:22 ]
Rumsfeld's Pentagon created in late 2002 a $100 million-a-year "Proactive Preemptive Operations Group".
P2OG, according to the Pentagon, provides covert US intelligence-agents who specialize in provoking "terrorists" into killing people, which then leaves the "terrorists" vulnerable to US counter-attack.
Perhaps this is a remnant of P2OG strategy.
@stopwar
by Seele on 20.07.2007 [00:26 ]
@stopwar
Yes, that s .. that s the other side of the coin. Since experience tells us that when Fox news says "everything is white" betting your ass on the oppsite - resp that in truth everything is near to "black" has most often not been a bad idea. Resp. whenever they say "peace" the truth is "war" and vice versa. They formely stated "Everywhere is in Iraq is Abu Mussab Al Zarqawi" -> wherefore the truth was he was only their boogy man phantom , resp. non-existent/long dead (at least the time they declared him enemy no.1). So for the above case that would result in the truth being that "Abu Omar Al Baghdadi" indeed is existent and the US is desperately hunting for him, but does not know anything about him and his location in Iraq, wherefore they now proclaim him to be "non-existent", hoping that some idiots will appear - screaming "No, no you liars, here is video proof that he exists and still lives and leads us" - showing the US watchdogs new video footage of Abu Omar etc. Footage which of course then in reverse action the US will use to hunt down the ISI leader. But all this is highly speculative and only hypothetically thinking with lots of question-marks in between. So I better stick to what I know (see my above post) than to what I don t know.
@stopwar
by Syrian on 20.07.2007 [00:39 ]
I don't know why they revealed this yet, but we will find out soon. They maybe liquidating their asset "ISI", to form a different group under a different strategy in light of the unity of the resistance.
If in doubt of my information, feel free to check the sources. I still can't find the reuters caption, but I will add it later today.
@seele,
I understand what you are saying, but please give me some time to reply as I have to go.
Half a TRILLION later USA senators go for hopeless charade . . .
by CANUKISTAN_VIEW on 20.07.2007 [00:51 ]
THESE SENATORS COLLECTIVELLY ALLOWED THE USA GOVERNMENT TO BECOME A BANKRUPT, PARIAH, TERRORIST AND WARMONGER COUNTRY BY FAILING TO DO THEIR JOB WITH THE CHECK AND BALANCES GIVEN TO THEIR POSITIONS.
h ttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=ao53cfKDjhRI&refer=home
The US dollar index is now at 80.20 i.e. a mere hair (0.20) from the abysm. If the US dollar fails to hold on to 80, the support level for over 30 years will be penetrated and the nose-dive will accelerate. After that crucial support gets broken, the question is; will the US dollar keep going down orderly or will it trigger a violent crush? Remember the US dollar index was at 165 less than 20 years ago i.e. the USA dollar lost 50% of its value in the last two decades and is ready to lose another 30% in the few months ahead. OCTOBER 2007 ? ? A Black Monday ? ? A new self made "terrorist" attack ? ? A rumor of a Russian bomber on the way to UK?
h ttp://www.kitco.com/ind/Kirtley_Sam/jul172007.html
THE FACT IS THAT IMPERIAL USA AND IMPERIAL WESTERN EUROPEAN ARE DONE WITH THEIR FINANCIAL SYSTEM! These criminal wars are to delay their financial agony, to drag the rest of the world with them, and TO CONTAIN A SOCIAL REVOLT-UNREST-REVOLUTION IN THEIR OWN LAND! ! ! So home-land security and all legislation on terrorism is to prepare an expeditious repression in the near future, with no habeas-corpus, unlimited power. In other words, WESTERN Europe AND THE USA PEOPLE WILL BE OR ARE ALREADY UNDER NAZI REGIME OR IN THE WAY TO BECOME.
The more I look and research historical parallels, the more convinced I am that this is MUCH MORE THAN A SECULAR CYCLE FOR THE COMMODITIES. We are more or less at the BEGINNING OF REVERSING THE WESTERN IMPERIAL SYSTEM THAT STARTED IN THE 1500s.
CHEERS FROM CANADA - PEACE PEACE
AL QAEDA WERE ALIVE IN LEBANON BACK IN 1960-1970
by CANUKISTAN_VIEW on 20.07.2007 [01:09 ]
AND IT WAS WELL KNOWN THEIR CONNECTION AND SUPPORT FROM THE USA EMBASSY. Sure, in any organization, most low rank folks never get to know what is cooking at the top.
Again It's right there under your nose.
by iron_clay on 20.07.2007 [01:18 ]
It's right there under your nose.
by iron_clay on 19.07.2007 06:28 ()
ht tp://www.iraq-war.ru/article/135350
And most have never recognised it.
There's the "Resistance"
There's Al Qaeda
and there's Al Qaida ...
and make no mistake all three are different persons.
Al Qaeda is the American CIA operative.
Every cell that has been cracked open by local police has had CIA agents running from it ... go figure.
The Resistance (in this case) is "The People of Iraq".
The terms used by these leaders clearly spell out the fact that they know the difference.
Neal
What they are doing
by Throw_Off_The_Killer on 20.07.2007 [01:41 ]
Remember that the braindead US herd does not entertain the idea that this al-Mashadani could be a US intelligence asset, the herd does not believe the US government does such things.
The US military creates the impression that they are successfully capturing "terrorists" and it serves to reinforce the "foreign-fighter" US propaganda-swill being fed to the herd. The "terrorists" are "foreigners", employing an Iraqi as an actor.
Surely this was a US operation to create "al Qaeda in Iraq".
The US government is right now pushing and stressing the "al Qaeda" theme to the US herd. The "Civil war" justification has died down so now we hear Bush recently declaring that the people the US are fighting in Iraq are "the same people who attacked us on 9/11."
The US herd will hear about the capture of the foreigner terrorist.