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Post by iameye on Nov 2, 2007 8:56:22 GMT -5
I think there's more to it.
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Post by mindgames on Nov 3, 2007 2:50:12 GMT -5
BTW: I'm not a musician, but isn't it considered sacrilege to handle any instrument by the neck, in fear of breaking said instrument? Bill seems to do this quite a bit.I do it all the time, and so do a few of my friends. Then again, the rules probably change when your instrument costs more than $1000. I remember reading an interview will Sir. Paul about his bass playing, and he told the brand of strings he used, I looked them up and it was like $200 for 4 bass strings...... Quite alot compared to the $30 ones I use on mine. mine were 7 dollars on clearance at Target and I treat them bitches like they are gold. ;D but $200 to faul is like 2 dollars unless of course Heather Mills is asking for it.
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Post by tafultong on Nov 6, 2007 13:52:19 GMT -5
Have you seen the artwork for the new "Ever Present Past" single? Appropriate, but it makes me go hmmmmm.
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Post by JoJo on Nov 6, 2007 17:19:06 GMT -5
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Post by ramone on Nov 6, 2007 18:10:52 GMT -5
Yup, that's an M-strip for sure. Always leading back to the same point. hmmm...
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Post by iameye on Nov 6, 2007 19:24:53 GMT -5
Yup, that's an M-strip for sure. Always leading back to the same point. hmmm... hey yeah, Doc never answered my mobius strip question. That doc.
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Post by iameye on Nov 6, 2007 19:43:40 GMT -5
BTW: I'm not a musician, but isn't it considered sacrilege to handle any instrument by the neck, in fear of breaking said instrument? Bill seems to do this quite a bit.I do it all the time, and so do a few of my friends. Then again, the rules probably change when your instrument costs more than $1000. I remember reading an interview will Sir. Paul about his bass playing, and he told the brand of strings he used, I looked them up and it was like $200 for 4 bass strings...... Quite alot compared to the $30 ones I use on mine. mine were 7 dollars on clearance at Target and I treat them bitches like they are gold. ;D but $200 to faul is like 2 dollars unless of course Heather Mills is asking for it. it's not the strings, its the neck of the guitar that is gonna snap, which is basically the set or" fret" for EPP. The Frett/wood effect, complete with hands and blurred images of possible mandolins..........still, practically every behind the scenes video HE blatently waves it , .....add the cross strings and the plot thickens. L7 www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtoN_qFv6MA
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Post by mindgames on Nov 6, 2007 20:08:25 GMT -5
yep I know, I was commenting on the part of the post that talked about strings Paul can replace the neck or the instrument like he was replacing guitar strings, I can't afford to replace the strings let alone the neck or the instrument. mine were 7 dollars on clearance at Target and I treat them bitches like they are gold. ;D but $200 to faul is like 2 dollars unless of course Heather Mills is asking for it. it's not the strings, its the neck of the guitar that is gonna snap, which is basically the set or" fret" for EPP. The Frett/wood effect, complete with hands and blurred images of possible mandolins..........still, practically every behind the scenes video HE blatently waves it , .....add the cross strings and the plot thickens. L7 www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtoN_qFv6MA
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Post by iameye on Nov 6, 2007 20:23:06 GMT -5
ok, I was just guessing that typically one would not "temp" such circumstance. yes?
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Post by iameye on Apr 14, 2008 22:04:08 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Apr 15, 2008 19:15:42 GMT -5
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Post by skyward on Apr 15, 2008 20:07:25 GMT -5
Interesting approach, iameye, checking the angles on the Pepper album, but the angle of Paul's instrument is 12.5°/167.5° from vertical or 77.5°/102.5° from horizontal. Close. Maybe there is more there?
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Post by Doc on Apr 15, 2008 20:09:16 GMT -5
Brilliant. I always thought that the English Horn in Sir Paul's hands look intentionally placed at an angle.
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Post by JoJo on Apr 15, 2008 20:10:50 GMT -5
12.5 is half of 23.. Multiply by two?
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Post by Doc on Apr 15, 2008 20:12:44 GMT -5
BTW: I'm not a musician, but isn't it considered sacrilege to handle any instrument by the neck, in fear of breaking said instrument? Bill seems to do this quite a bit.I do it all the time, and so do a few of my friends. Then again, the rules probably change when your instrument costs more than $1000. I remember reading an interview will Sir. Paul about his bass playing, and he told the brand of strings he used, I looked them up and it was like $200 for 4 bass strings...... Quite alot compared to the $30 ones I use on mine. mine were 7 dollars on clearance at Target and I treat them bitches like they are gold. ;D but $200 to faul is like 2 dollars unless of course Heather Mills is asking for it. Yea, but turns out Heather was yanking on his heart-strings, not his bass strings. Love your post. Nobody understands the value of our musicians' gear except us.
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Post by skyward on Apr 15, 2008 20:13:57 GMT -5
12.5 is half of 23.. Multiply by two? Wait, 12.5 x2 = 25°
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Post by iameye on Apr 15, 2008 20:45:50 GMT -5
Interesting approach, iameye, checking the angles on the Pepper album, but the angle of Paul's instrument is 12.5°/167.5° from vertical or 77.5°/102.5° from horizontal. Close. Maybe there is more there? the b &W is from the Masonic tracing board the hand/knife represents a comet.... if you use the trumpet bell as the lay line and match it to cor's anglaise (angle of the heart? heart of the angle?) it seems a visual closer match.....maybe not exact, but I propose it is what was intended....either not enough usable stills of the moment and they had to live with it, or Paul just wasn't half the man he used to be....
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Post by JoJo on Apr 15, 2008 21:04:21 GMT -5
12.5 is half of 23.. Multiply by two? Wait, 12.5 x2 = 25° Right, 11.5 *2.. or something like that.. (makes a note to use pencil and paper next time..)
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Post by iameye on Apr 15, 2008 21:43:43 GMT -5
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Post by skyward on Apr 15, 2008 21:56:44 GMT -5
the b &W is from the Masonic tracing board the hand/knife represents a comet.... if you use the trumpet bell as the lay line and match it to cor's anglaise (angle of the heart? heart of the angle?) it seems a visual closer match.....maybe not exact, but I propose it is what was intended....either not enough usable stills of the moment and they had to live with it, or Paul just wasn't half the man he used to be.... I ran a search for angles and art and here is a page with many examples of angles in artwork: Paradigm Shift The Angles of 23.5, 52, 38, 30, 6.5, 72 and 18 in Art and Other Sources If you use the trumpet bell and stem as a horizontal line, 0°, then the cor anglais could be roughly at a 6.5°/173.5° from vertical. 6.5° is a noted angle. The thing about the artwork, at the above webpage, that stands out is the precision. I think it should be relatively easy to match the horizonal of the trumpet to the offset angle 23.5 from vertical. It would be a 66.5° or 113.5° angle where the trumpet and cor anglais intersect, which could be measured and held in place during the photoshoot. The way it is now, it is about a 96.5° angle. I don't mean to sound nitpicky, I think it is an interesting idea, to look at the angles. I'm just comparing the precision and accuracy to the other examples of artwork.
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Post by iameye on Apr 15, 2008 23:50:28 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Apr 16, 2008 10:55:26 GMT -5
any one have a protractor?
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Post by iameye on Apr 16, 2008 12:01:20 GMT -5
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Post by The Deceptionist on Apr 16, 2008 13:49:02 GMT -5
not that any of this makes much immediate sense to me, but it does remind me of the isometric (i think thats the right word) grids used for drawing 3D objects in school (maths, drawing, design etc).. i wonder what the angles are on those?
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Post by thisone on Apr 16, 2008 14:35:29 GMT -5
any one have a protractor? Angels angles match!!
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