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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 11, 2006 3:48:16 GMT -5
I was doing a google on firemen and freemasonry and came up with a bite that said that Mozart was a freemason. Was he on the Sgt. Pepper cover?
Also, one said that firemen burned books....
But I didn't get into the sites....I didn't want to get into that this time of the morning.... This is what happens when one has a bout with insomnia...
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 11, 2006 3:56:04 GMT -5
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 11, 2006 4:01:36 GMT -5
In Penny Lane there is a fireman with an hourglass, and in his pocket is a portrait of the queen ' [/quote]' This fireman carries a picture of the Queen? He works for the crown...Sir Faul the Fireman of freemasonry... what is he burning now?
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Post by lili on Jan 11, 2006 13:46:54 GMT -5
Paul wrote Pennylane. If there is any connection to Bill, it can be for two reasons. Either it's purely coincidental, or Bill thinks it's funny & is using it to be funny.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 11, 2006 17:18:38 GMT -5
Or, are we told it was Paul who wrote it just to throw some people off the trail? Just a thought.
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Post by noodles on Feb 1, 2006 19:19:05 GMT -5
No one finds the idea that he denies being a mason interesting? Not saying he is or he isn't, just the fact that he addresses it at all should make you wonder.. Who was was saying it in the first place?
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Post by JoJo on Feb 1, 2006 22:03:45 GMT -5
Quite possible Noodles, that it's hidden in plain sight, same thing with the Pepper cover, regarding the square and compass. Always liked this one:
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Feb 6, 2006 9:40:28 GMT -5
And as a freemason, Bill has his place in immortal's hall of shame....
To sneak that in children's books...shame on Bill..indoctrinating the youth.....
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Post by lili on Feb 6, 2006 14:12:13 GMT -5
I have never trusted his motives.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 11, 2006 14:22:12 GMT -5
I'm going to add some links/info that Valis discovered a while back, and a new one from Ilras. The fireman project link: www.fire-man.comAnd then a fan site: www.angelfire.com/electronic/fireman/personnel.htmlThis is where it gets interesting... www.geocities.com/deadmanrecordsClick on "audio" (right top of page) Click on the yellow dot to the right of: "FIRESTATION #9 - (1993-98) - ( request pending) "You will see a scantily clad woman. unclad woman..interesting, but not what I'm getting at) ;D Click on the sign for aquarius. (second from the bottom on the right) This will bring up a telephone touch tone pad: dial 9-1-1. The direct link for the page that 9-1-1 should bring you to, if it doesn't work: www.geocities.com/deadmanrecords/loop.htmlBefore you know it, things are going to begin changing..Now, the number that Ilras dialed.. Try 7-2-6 Takes you to a strange picture with this text above: a hun female spirit envisions Paul is the firemanBelow: [--------7am--------]Click on the picture and... www.anagrammy.com/anagrams/index.htmlSo, are the phrases in the Firman site anagrams perhaps? I've tried the anagram software, there are many many possibilities. Have fun..
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Post by lili on Feb 12, 2006 12:10:39 GMT -5
Weird indeed !
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Post by JoJo on Feb 28, 2006 22:31:43 GMT -5
Found this on the Macca forum, there was a webcast in 1998: Frustrating, because it will be almost impossible to find..then again I figured I'd never see the black light effect on the Pepper vinyl..
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 1, 2006 3:32:42 GMT -5
what do you think the webcast had that the vinyl didn't?
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Post by JoJo on Mar 1, 2006 5:47:00 GMT -5
I dunno, just equal in terms of rarity. Anything that's kept hidden..gotta find it. Still haven't found his cartoon with a plot involving a french prison either..
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 1, 2006 10:36:51 GMT -5
Is this that Ruppert the Mouse thing? I dunno, just equal in terms of rarity. Anything that's kept hidden..gotta find it. Still haven't found his cartoon with a plot involving a french prison either..
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Post by noodles on Mar 1, 2006 13:26:59 GMT -5
Isn't the logo for MPL include a juggler? and as far a a bison's, er, long one (tusk): read down: www.digitallyobsessed.com/showinterview.php3?ID=60&page=2There seems to be a web, a thread, or line of connections, thru-out McCartney's projects. He seems to like to symbolically or subtelty put little things in his work that jive with his "mission", or goals, etc. I quoted "mission" as to mean a general one. I am not saying he is on a secret spy mission, or like the Blues Brothers, a "mission from Gahd," etc. just his own busy work ethic type thing------let's face it, the guy likes to stay busy. He has options. He excercizes them. My spelling is going downhill. Interesting quotes from the interview in your link.
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Post by lili on Mar 1, 2006 13:45:52 GMT -5
He's impersonated Paul good enough to get away with it for the past 40 years !
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Post by JoJo on Mar 1, 2006 18:35:19 GMT -5
Is this that Ruppert the Mouse thing?
Ha that's a frog, but no I'm talking about Daumier's Law, and I guess I have the idea about the French prison from listening to the soundtrack boots, there isn't an official version.
Act 1: Right Act 2: Wrong Act 3: Justice Act 4: Punishment Act 5: Payment Act 6: Release
This isn't a story about froggies..
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 2, 2006 1:44:44 GMT -5
A retelling of the man in the iron mask & the sun king?
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Post by JoJo on Mar 2, 2006 16:57:23 GMT -5
A retelling of the man in the iron mask & the sun king? Could be, can't find a synopsis anywhere.
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Post by lenmac on Mar 2, 2006 17:45:44 GMT -5
here is what i have on it:
STORY BEHIND "DAUMIER'S LAW"
Brian Peterson Nov 26 1993
This article was written by Mark Lewisohn for Club Sandwich in the Summer of
1992. In order to save myself some typing I will excerpt and paraphrase a
little bit. Any mistakes are mine.
Paul McCartney is about to surprise us all once again. Over the last 4 years
he's been putting together a short film animating the work of 19th Century
artist Honore Daumier, and recording what the public will perceive as some
very unMcCartney like music for it.
The film is Daumier's Law. Brought to you by the team behind Rupert
and The Frog Song. Paul, Linda, and director of animation Geoff Dunbar. For
too long Honore Daumier has been an unsung hero, a clear but usually
overlooked influence over artists such as Van Gogh, Toulouse-Lautrec and
Picasso. Daumier's Law will ensure that his work finally receives the
attention it merits.
Linda was the first to be enthused by Daumier - back in her school
days. "I went through all periods of different painters and along the way
there were several that grabbed me including Daumier. He was very satirical
about the different classes and fantastic at capturing people's characters."
In 1988 Paul found himself with the time, while preparing for the
Tour, to record some experimental music. It wasn't meant for the film, that
come only after the music was completed. "I wanted to get into some
minimalist music so I came to the studio and started trying to think of very
simple pieces, based around the theme of injustice. .. I got intrigued by
the idea of thinking 'how few notes couls I use, then?' You start off
thinking of just one note and then you embellish it a bit, trying to keep in
the back of your mind to be as minimal as possible. And in the end I think I
abondoned the idea of minimalism and just got into this slightly
experimental music."
Soon the two projects came together. "I went through every drawing
he ever did and really got involved," Linda says, "I got every book on
Daumier and read all about his life and thought that it would be incredible
to do a visual thing for Paul's music. Daumier worked for a newspaper as a
satirical cartoonist and went to prison a few times for his Art. A lot of
his work was about injustice and it's a theme that is so right for our
times."
"I did about 20 minutes of music." adds Paul, "then Linda and I were
looking at some Daumier drawings, so we hooked up the idea of injustice with
my musical pieces, came up with the idea for the film and called Geoff."
"Paul and Linda called and asked if I would like to make a film on
Daumier and I said yes," recalls Geoff Dunbar, "Before Rupert came along I
had made a film on Toulouse-Lautrec so the Daumier idea was very exciting."
"Paul did six pieces of music and they each had a title - Right,
Wrong, Justice, Punishment, Payment, and Release. Then we pored through the
works of Daumier, got everything that was available, and structured the
story from the material. And where we had to link it we invented 'in the
style of'. We hung the story on one character, a man from one drawing by
Daumier."
The injustice theme is skillfully put across during the 15 minute
film, with our Mr. Average wrongfully accussed, wrongfully arrested,
wrongfully convicted in a particularly powerful courtroom scene(Act 3:
Justice), cruelly punished, forced to pay dues and then, at last, expelledby
the tyrannical system, free to rediscover artistic beauty in his midst. "It'
s all topical stuff ," comments Dunbar, "It's a heroic tale I suppose. He
goes through the system and comes out in rags, he's lost all his wordly
possessions and his dignity but regains them at the end by finding beauty
and music."
The most visually stunning section occurs in Act 5 (Payment), when
Daumier's remarkable Gargantua, drawn in 1832, is brought to life. Depicting
the great pear-head of Louis XIV and his swallowing up of ordinary people
and their riches, it was a drawing for which Daumier was fined and
imprisoned by the French government.
The sheer enormity of work in making Daumier's Law is best explained
by some vital statistics: Production began in mid-1989 and the animation
took two years to complete. With between 12 and 24 drawings per second the
film runs up to 21,000 drawings. Before that they are all done in pencil
too, so that make's 42,000. THe celluloids also have to be shaded or painted
before being photographed, plus all the prepatory photos and layouts of the
scenes, another 35,000 drawings. "The sequence of the mandolin player (Act
6, Release) along took one artist three months," comments Geoff, "plus there
were scenes, only natural in a film project, that wouldn't fit in, which
were heaved out and confined to the bin."
It's a mark of the team's achievement that no difference between the
original work and theirsis discernable to the naked eye. "Doing a film like
this has it's bonuses," remarks Dunbar, "and one learns so much more than if
you just studied it. You're actually in it, you've got to make it move, to
create new scenes which will dovetail with the original."
Paul supplied 20 minutes of instrumental music, of which 15 is used.
It may not be minimalist in the true sense of the word, but certainly, in
places, it is pretty minimal. And it changes dramatically depending on the
Act, from subtle tinkling percussion effects to more strident piano and
electric guitar passages and some lovely acoustic work. "The great thing in
animation is that they need the music before the film," comments Paul' "In
animation they follow what you lay down."
"Paul was inspired by Daumier and I was inspired by the music'"
comments Geoff, "And we do have a good sense of what we're both thinking and
saying. With the Daumier music it's so much a departure for Paul ,such a
brave direction to go in, that I had to sit down and listen to it many times
over"
"What was especially thrilling was when we did the sound mix and
Paul and I are sitting at the bakc of the theatre. There it was again - the
strength of the music was still there. WE had been listening to it every
day, sections of it repeated again and again, and it had become an object of
work. So for the strength to still be there two years later was remarkable."
Delighted to be "probably the only animator in the world who has a
gold disk", pointing to his award for 'We All Stand Together', Dunbar is
usually occupied making animated TV commercials and is presently engaged in
bringing to the screen another beloved British children's character, Beatrix
Potter's Peter Rabbit.
As for the musical element, Paul comments, "I've also got two other
pieces of the same sort of theme and of similar length, so the idea at some
point may be to release everything together on record, We'll see."
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Post by JoJo on Mar 2, 2006 18:11:33 GMT -5
Thanks Lenmac, I must be getting forgetful. I'll repeat what I said on that thread: The reference to Louis XIV (the Sun King) is incorrect, Daumier made that cartoon about Louis Philippe, the "Orléanist" king.
More info on Daumier.
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Post by Doc on Mar 2, 2006 23:34:48 GMT -5
Where can we find this work, or at least hear the music? I am very curious as to how this experimental music sounds; would love to see how it augments the visual aspects.
Daumier and his work look very interesting. Clearly gifted, original.
Long live satire; and long live audio/visual works.
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Post by Doc on Mar 2, 2006 23:50:59 GMT -5
Isn't the logo for MPL include a juggler? and as far a a bison's, er, long one (tusk): read down: www.digitallyobsessed.com/showinterview.php3?ID=60&page=2There seems to be a web, a thread, or line of connections, thru-out McCartney's projects. He seems to like to symbolically or subtelty put little things in his work that jive with his "mission", or goals, etc. I quoted "mission" as to mean a general one. I am not saying he is on a secret spy mission, or like the Blues Brothers, a "mission from Gahd," etc. just his own busy work ethic type thing------let's face it, the guy likes to stay busy. He has options. He excercizes them. My spelling is going downhill. Interesting quotes from the interview in your link. That jives with....concepts that have come to light on these boards as a result of the efforts of Jojo, eyesbleed, and many other good, hard working people. Well, he has always been an entertainer; now I see that in bold relief. The package comes labeled as "Rockandroll", or "pop", whatever, but Macca is evidentally inclusive of both of those, but much broader than all that! He is smart to recognize and work with the laws of "marketing", (something that is miles above my head). THe music business is frought with pitfalls and snags. Mob mentality has always to some degree, sold albums, and the mob (not THE "Mob") is fickle. (Though they may be as well..........) But a man who does a platinum movie theme (Live and Let Die), helps to foment heavy metal (Helter Skelter) is stepping out on the limb to produce children's music, write a classical oratorio, compose a sensitive and intimate and gentle album like Chaos and Creation, writes minimalist music for a documentary about a not too well known artist from impressionist-era France, does house music, who knows all what else untold secret recording projects (did someone whisper Klaatu?) or not, and---'scuze me---has the courage to take a stand in his native------er, one of his favorite countries, Canada--------about endangered species protection----must make very deliberate, calculated, and individualistic decisions as a way of life. Go Macca, go, is what I would say. What I really mean is, of course, stay around, and keep on a-goin' with what your doin'. I think they used to say, "Keep on a-truckin'", in the seventies. Ah, I remember them well. But, does Eddie Kendricks? Anyway, keep on-truckin', babe.
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 3, 2006 2:18:22 GMT -5
he laws of "marketing", (something that is miles above my head).
But a man who does a platinum movie theme (Live and Let Die), helps to foment heavy metal (Helter Skelter) is stepping out on the limb to produce children's music, write a classical oratorio, compose a sensitive and intimate and gentle album like Chaos and Creation, writes minimalist music for a documentary
It's not "a man who does." It's the PAUL MCCARTNEY brand name doing this; it's the work of several people, often led by someone other than your beloved doppelganger. And it's the PR machine put in place with the advent of the British Invasion propping it up.
Marketing. PAUL MCCARTNEY, CHEF BOYARDEE . . .
BTW: a platinum movie theme (Live and Let Die), helps to foment heavy metal (Helter Skelter)
An ode to brutal death and an ode to apocalypse. Should PAUL MCCARTNEY be credited, or blamed?
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