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Post by il ras on Feb 21, 2006 21:22:58 GMT -5
No ear plastic yet?
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Post by lili on Feb 23, 2006 11:46:43 GMT -5
That's the fake ear. Check this out: Bill from the time that they filmed MMT: Sometime later, with the fake ear attached: Now Paul:
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Post by revolver on Feb 23, 2006 23:21:41 GMT -5
Thanks for posting those, Lili. The closeups show once again how Paul's left earlobe was attached, Bill's was detached.
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Feb 24, 2006 0:14:29 GMT -5
Using the super cool Wayback Machine, I went back to Ruth and Angie McCartney's first site in 1996 where they had photographs posted. There are a few of them that I hadn't seen before, and some are a little more clearer than others I've seen. The one with Sir Faul and Ruth at Bangor in 1967 is a little more clearer than another photo I've seen. *I don't recall ever seeing the one of Ruth & Paul in the garden of Cavendish Ave, circa 1966. Ruth at the Balmoral Club, Bahamas, January 1965 is a cute one I hadn't seen before. *The 60's photocard, it's hard for me to say whether or not I've ever seen it, because it's such a typical pose for the four lads. There are other similar photos. *Ruth holding the record at Beatlefest is one I hadn't seen. *Ruth and Mike dancing is an adorable photo which I also don't ever recall. *Ruth and a guy named Chris Tassone who looks a little bit like Ringo (hadn't seen it). *Lastly a charming photo of Ruth and Angie in 1996 which I also don't remember ever viewing. web.archive.org/web/19970112170450/mccartneymultimedia.com/familyalbum.htm
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Post by lenmac on Feb 24, 2006 1:09:10 GMT -5
I found a couple of new pics ( to me anyway)
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Post by lili on Feb 24, 2006 12:53:59 GMT -5
Thanks, Jai. It's sweet how much Ruth looks like Angie. Like mother like daughter, eh ? Lenmac, thanks for the new photos !
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 3, 2006 23:35:06 GMT -5
Sometime later, with the fake ear attached: You can clearly see this "Mr. Potato Head" detachable ear...the line is visible and it wasn't even touched up by the photog... Surely a rubber ear.... Thanks for the pic Lili..... You can also see his chiclet teeth...are they detachable as well?
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Post by noodles on Mar 4, 2006 9:18:26 GMT -5
It certainly does look fake and there's an unnatural line aling the edge of the ear that's hidden behind his sideburn.
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Post by lili on Mar 4, 2006 9:37:33 GMT -5
You're welcome, Rita. Noodles, that line... I remember that either SunKing or BeatlePaul had posted a photo quite awhile ago on 60IF/TKIN. It showed Bill with his ear coming off. You could see how they used spirit glue to attach it. It was an early photo, most likely from 1967. I'm sure as technology made advancements, the attachments became much more sophisticated. I have to look through my photos & see if I still have it. I found this photo that lenmac posted interesting: It looks to me like Bill is having a bit of a hard time of it. Maybe he's doubting his ability to pull it off. The person standing in front of him is fixing his lapels, while no doubt giving him a "pep talk " If you look closely at his ear, it appears like there is a visible line.
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Post by lili on Mar 4, 2006 14:39:37 GMT -5
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 4, 2006 16:17:09 GMT -5
Is this Dino?
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 4, 2006 16:22:42 GMT -5
IMO This looks like Bill...long, thin, and narrow nose, flared nostrils. This one's nose is more like JPM's but his eyes are different. It proves that there are more Fauls than just Bill.
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Post by noodles on Mar 5, 2006 11:15:10 GMT -5
The problem with those pictures lili is that most of them have been doctored so it's hard to tell exactly which Paul it is. In this picture it looks like they've cut and pasted someone elses eyes onto the image. If you look at the eyelids the skin colour is darker than the rest of his face. And in this one they've drawn around his eyelids with a black pencil. They used that technique a lot later on as they were moving from stage 2 to stage 3 Paul. I think you have to study video/film/movie footage as much as possible to work out how many Paul's there actually were. Obviously with the technology we have today that's a lot easier to do than it would have been 10/20/30 years ago. I''m fairly sure there were two main replacements. This guy... He was Paul from late 1967. I think the interview outside Abbey Road studios in December was his earliest appearence but I may well be wrong. Hard to estimate when he disappears. And this guy... He appears around the time Apple is launched and looks very convinving indeed but by the time we get the 'Let It Be' sessions his face has gone puffy and wonky. You can see it here on this wedding picture. This is Sir Paul. This picture is from the 'Let It Be' book. It's been touched up around the mouth (which was wonky around that time) and they've also done the black pencil around the eyelids. His whole face is very puffed up and mishapen at that point and would be the reason why he grew a beard. What they haven't touched up is his right nostril which shows clear signs of surgery. You can still see this today. This picture shows signs of surgery around his ear possibly froma recent facelift. He certainly looks like he's had one. You can also see blue around the edges of his iris as well as the signs of surgery on his right nostril. There seem to have beem several Pauls from 1966 through to 1968. I can't work out how many, it's very hard to tell. On the left we have 'Strawberry Fields' video Paul. I've crudely painted out his moustache to give a better idea of what he looks like. On the right we have LSD interview Paul. The differences in the eyes, eybrows, nose, chin and basic facial shape are very obvious. I think the Paul from the Mal Evans videos is different again. I don't have a decent copy of this though so it's hard to tell. Then there's Neil Aspinall as Paul. Phew!! That's anough images from me and imageshack.us/ Thank you Imageshack.
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 5, 2006 11:49:49 GMT -5
Though I suspect someone other than Sir FAUL may have been playing the "Paul" role in the SFF/PL films, I think the FAUL we all know was on the scene by the time Pepper was released. Who can forget this portrait of love at first sight from the release party on June 1 1967? "It's amazing what they can do with plastic surgery."
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 6, 2006 22:35:37 GMT -5
Linda looks like she had some surgery since that time as well. Not suggesting she was "replaced" but just saying that as she aged, she had some nips and tucks I'm sure. Maybe a 2 for 1 deal while Bill was in getting "updated".
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Post by noodles on Mar 7, 2006 14:47:16 GMT -5
Though I suspect someone other than Sir FAUL may have been playing the "Paul" role in the SFF/PL films, I think the FAUL we all know was on the scene by the time Pepper was released. Who can forget this portrait of love at first sight from the release party on June 1 1967? "It's amazing what they can do with plastic surgery." You may be right but that's just a picture. It doesn't prove anything. Are there any other photos from this party where we can see 'Paul's' face?
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Post by mciiii on Mar 7, 2006 15:21:39 GMT -5
this is a pic taken from a TV set thats not Are there any other photos from this party where we can see 'Paul's' face?
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Post by noodles on Mar 7, 2006 16:19:07 GMT -5
Thank you. Based on my personal observations (I know others disgree and have been investigating this for far far longer than I have) that doesn't look like any of the other Paul's they were using at that time. Hard to tell as the picture's obviously not that clear but he does look like the baby faced Paul on on the 1969 'Hey I'm really actually alive you know' Life magazine cover.
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Post by DarkHorse on Mar 7, 2006 20:52:15 GMT -5
A little off topic here but isn't that Maggie McGivern with Bill in this pic lili posted?
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Post by lili on Mar 10, 2006 13:07:05 GMT -5
I can't tell. Here are other photos of Maggie: Bill & Maggie> Paul & Maggie>
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Post by lili on Mar 10, 2006 13:10:41 GMT -5
This pic is from 1974. Bill's face looks very swollen:
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Post by revolver on Mar 10, 2006 21:05:34 GMT -5
This pic is from 1974. Bill's face looks very swollen: That's very close to Bill's Sgt. Pepper haircut and mustache. Another example showing why the red pepper photo wasn't stretched after all.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 10, 2006 21:55:24 GMT -5
[/quote] The upper lip looks like it has been scarred from plastic surgery and his eyelids look more "hooded" than Bill normally is seen with, thus making him look more like JPM.
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Post by lili on Mar 14, 2006 8:40:26 GMT -5
I posted this photo before. It was pointed out on another forum, that Bill's face looks odd in this photo. It looks like his cheek is swollen. I didn't notice that when I posted the photo:
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 14, 2006 19:06:38 GMT -5
Yeh, his skin definitely looks red and stretched.
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