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KLAATU
Feb 5, 2007 21:20:47 GMT -5
Post by plastic paul on Feb 5, 2007 21:20:47 GMT -5
Ginger looks like an older Vivian Stanshall IMO as I mentioned earlier to no avail!
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KLAATU
Feb 5, 2007 21:38:23 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Feb 5, 2007 21:38:23 GMT -5
Ginger looks like an older Vivian Stanshall IMO as I mentioned earlier to no avail! Somewhat, but I agree with the three names on the table thus far.. Famous and seemingly easily recognizable, Viv would be an odd man out?
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KLAATU
Feb 5, 2007 21:46:28 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on Feb 5, 2007 21:46:28 GMT -5
I could see the guy next to Gerry Garcia as Ginsburg more than the fellow on the left.
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KLAATU
Feb 6, 2007 20:20:59 GMT -5
Post by openmind on Feb 6, 2007 20:20:59 GMT -5
just a mention of some possible interest klaatu if read backwards says u taalk and since we are reading it backwards we can translate it to you talk backwards klaatu is well known for backmasking as were the beatles.
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KLAATU
Apr 26, 2007 20:43:09 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Apr 26, 2007 20:43:09 GMT -5
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KLAATU
Apr 28, 2007 4:39:12 GMT -5
Post by Mellow Yellow on Apr 28, 2007 4:39:12 GMT -5
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KLAATU
Apr 28, 2007 10:13:41 GMT -5
Post by beatlies on Apr 28, 2007 10:13:41 GMT -5
Steve: Okay, so meanwhile, the album comes out. Nothing much happens initially. You guys get back into the studio and start working on "Hope" then all of this Beatle shit hits the fan.
John: Right.
Steve: Tell me what you think about all of that.
Terry: Well, first the band said it was very flattering. I think we were flattered more than anything. Surprised, though, considering that it was totally regardless of us that it happened. We didn't perpetrate it. It just sorta came to pass by an article written in Providence by Steve Smith. We were surprised as everyone else. But it was flattering. That's the thing I remember most.
Steve: Well, considering that you count influences like The Beatles, 10cc, and ELO - it's sort of right in the same ball park. And even Tchaikovsky, the classical influence came through, too.
John: We were really heavy into King Crimson during the first album. So many people are aware of King Crimson as they are about the Beatles and things like that.
Steve: Alright, well then since you had nothing to do with the perpetration, the origination of the idea that you guys were The Beatles and didn't have anything to do with perpetrating it, other than maintaining your silence, at least initially, what were your attitudes about the whole thing? Did it change from flattering, or being flattered, to something else after the backlash started to happen?
John: Well, it was a little bit like having an albatross around your neck because what would happen is that as the rumour strengthened and as the shit was hitting the fan, there was more pressure being put on us to come forward. And one of the things that we had agreed upon when we first got together was that we werent do the picture-bio routine. We weren't gonna do all the personality build-up and things like that. We just wanted the group to remain sort of anonymous. I mean, we were really naive then and let the music do all of the talking. That started out as a real great, noble idea and worked for awhile, but when the exact opposite thing happened than we wanted - we wanted to remain anonymous and not have to get our personalities involved, ya know, and all that kind of stuff. We thought that was really a bunch of hogwash and we thought that music was great because it was great not because somebody likes your tie and what colour your hair is.
Steve: Yeah, and whether or not you wear sneakers or pointy shoes.
John: Yeah, y’know we don;t like fads to that degree - we recognized their force, but we didn't want to [garbled]. But what happened was when the Beatle thing happened we got caught up in this positive press that was now exposing the album - we got more hype out of that than you could have manufactured with 15 promo records directors. I mean, it backfired on us. While we were looking for anonymity we got more exposure than we could have dreamed was possible.
Steve: Infamy without individual recognition then.
John: Yeah, right. That's kind of a good way at phrasing it. So then and after the Beatle thing dies down...in the meantime we didn't want to release anything at that point because if we were to release our name at the time of that Beatle rumour, ya know, our names would have been in the newspaper from Boston to LA and we weren't looking for that kind of explosive mushrooming exposure. I think, in retrospect, it might have done more damage than the backlash ended up doing. We just weren't ready tp accept that kind of exposure - we were at that time working on the "Hope" album which was taking a lot of energy.
Steve: Okay now, during April of 1977 - you were working on the "Hope" album at that point weren't you?
John: Yup.
Steve: Okay, there was a thing that happened about that time -- a P.D. (Program Director) named Dwight Douglas from WWDC Radio in Washington had dug around and came up with four names. The names were J. Woloschuk also known as L.M. Carpenter and Chip Dale; Cary Draper; David Long and Dino Tome. And then, right after that, we have a quote from Frank Davies, he says, "the article is so inaccurate in several of its details, including the names." Now, that is like very very true that names were not exactly correct. What was your reaction at that point when his guy, Dwight Douglas, came so close to naming your correct names?
John: Take it away Dee.
Dee: I don't really know. I don't remember too much about that. As far as I was concerned I don't think we had said to Frank and Cary that we didn't want them to use our names. There was really no sense in commenting or saying, "Yes, these names aren't quite correct, but here are the correct ones."
Steve: No, I don’t mean commenting to the world - I just mean among yourselves.
Dee: Our reaction?
Steve: Yeah.
Dee: No, I don’t know personally. I just found it a little - it was interesting, it was funny. I never really thought of it as an emotional term of, y’know, anything to do with the music. We were much more concerned with guarding our health at that point.
Steve: Ok, let’s move on to "Hope" then. Did this backlash that began happening while you were in the sessions with "Hope" have any affect on the "Hope" sessions?
Terry: It did actually in a queer sort of way.
Steve: In what way?
Terry: We were about to deliver the "Hope" album and I think it was just somewhere within a few weeks that the Beatle thing happened. And we weren't quite happy with it, the album as it stood completed at that point and yet we had a deadline with Capitol Records. As we were handing it in this Beatle thing happened and they gave us some more time to finish it which was another bonus the Beatle thing supplied. We spent another good 30-40 days in the studio again - fixing it all up and doing things that we weren't happy with after we've lived with it for awhile.
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KLAATU
May 7, 2007 18:14:19 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on May 7, 2007 18:14:19 GMT -5
Dee Long of Klaatu wrote a sci-fi story entitled "Outside of Time and Space", about a time traveling protagonist. They have Jimi Hendrix on board soon into the story, but at the end of chapter eight into nine they go back in time and get "Janis" and "Paul". www.deelong.com/Ootas/Ootas_Chapter_09.htmA bit of an excerpt: Jimi, Janis and Paul continue on down the hall at Zero 1 Mars base. Dee and Jim stop at the elevator door.
Dee, “So, can you explain to me why Paul looks so young? I’m assuming this isn’t the current Paul, but Paul from the past.”
Jim, “Well, that’s correct. We had quite an adventure picking up Janis. I’ll tell you about it another time. In the process we sort of accidentally ran into Paul. Janis let it slip that we’re having this jam. Paul wanted to come along, and here we are.”
Dee, “But, I met him years ago. If you’ve picked him up from an earlier time, that means we must take him back sooner or later. Which also means, looking at it logically, that he should have known me already when we met at Air Studios.”
Jim, “True. Maybe he did. After we’re finished jamming he’s going back to the very moment we picked him up and take his own place again.”
Dee, “Huh, say what?”
Jim, “He knew you but also knew you won’t know him. So he pretended, or will pretend, not to know you, so you won’t know that he knows you. Simple?”
Dee, “Right. I’m sure glad I was asleep! Sounds a bit too much like an excellent adventure to me. As long as we have a great jam, and I can’t think of anyone I would rather have as a guest! Let’s get up to the surface, I want to show you the studio.”Now, I was never sure if he was actually referring to Paul McCartney, but these stills from his video "Collecting Icons", where these images seem to emerge from a space ship leave no doubt: And then he thanks them at the end of another video: Interesting, eh.. Collecting Icons video, still processing right now: www.veoh.com/videos/v467215zEhwPSxf
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KLAATU
May 7, 2007 18:30:35 GMT -5
Post by DarkHorse on May 7, 2007 18:30:35 GMT -5
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KLAATU
May 7, 2007 21:00:54 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on May 7, 2007 21:00:54 GMT -5
I have to give credit to Valis for finding the story, that was the seed for looking into this in more detail.
There are a couple of interviews with Dee on the DVD, I'll be uploading them to Veoh soon.
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KLAATU
May 8, 2007 5:54:37 GMT -5
Post by Valis on May 8, 2007 5:54:37 GMT -5
OMG
Felix the Cat in the thanx for that video.
In Philip K Dick's novel VALIS the character PKD has to wait for a cypher named "King Felix" from VALIS (Vast Active Living Intellingence System). He finally sees it one morning on TV when an ad for FOOD KING is slightly imposed with the intro for a FELIX THE CAT episode, forming the awaited KING FELIX sign.
I'd say that's a good sign.
I hope to be posting more, still reading every day
All Love Jan
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KLAATU
May 8, 2007 16:54:50 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on May 8, 2007 16:54:50 GMT -5
Hey Jan, glad to see ya make a post again, and I made sure the still included the Felix the Cat credit, I knew you'd enjoy that. Veoh is being cranky of late, keeps telling me the videos are the "wrong format". So, back to Youtube for Collecting Icons: www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHiOKs1zj8w
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KLAATU
May 8, 2007 20:31:57 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on May 8, 2007 20:31:57 GMT -5
I posted a comment at YouTube and gave a rave rating.
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KLAATU
May 8, 2007 20:32:49 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on May 8, 2007 20:32:49 GMT -5
"Solace" (Also: "Sol us" = "We are the sun".)
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KLAATU
May 8, 2007 21:16:28 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on May 8, 2007 21:16:28 GMT -5
A couple of pieces where Dee Long talks of interesting things, the second link is the one with the list of credits: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPe9phRQrhowww.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxZJZgsQI8Question: How did it make you feel that people thought you were the Beatles?Answer: I never thought about it that much. I couldn't believe that anyone would seriously believe that we could actually be the Beatles.
I was young, I preferred to believe that the music would find its own way but.. I guess I find it easier to believe that Elton John is actually the queen in disguise, or maybe Liberace, but..
Well I suppose that could actually be the case..Which could be the case, the bit about the queen or..? (he's a bit...not cryptic exactly, more like ambiguous..)
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KLAATU
May 9, 2007 11:04:42 GMT -5
Post by mommybird on May 9, 2007 11:04:42 GMT -5
I found it interesting that Janis, Jimi & Paul are all DEAD rock stars. Of course he had to write that he was going to put Paul back, so that history could take it's course. We all know what course that was. Too bad he didn't grow a pair & write the TRUTH. I'm not surprised that the photo of Paul that he used was from Help ! That was about a year prior to his death/disappearance.
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KLAATU
May 9, 2007 17:40:25 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on May 9, 2007 17:40:25 GMT -5
I like the album art so much, I buy the vinyl on Ebay for that alone. So here are the back and front of 'Hope' and 'Sir Army Suit' (Big versions in the root folder): www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/Klaatu_Album_Artwork/ There seems to be a story here, look at the crumbling representation of the yellow sun on the planet (?) with the large red sun on the 'Hope' front cover.So, it would seem the occupants of this world left the place with the yellow sun, but felt obliged to memorialize it. (it was obviously some time ago when this migration took place) 'Sir Army Suit' tells of leaving the red sun to go back to the yellow one. Note that 'Little Neutrino' is present on both album covers. (the mouse)
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KLAATU
Jun 16, 2007 13:54:54 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Jun 16, 2007 13:54:54 GMT -5
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KLAATU
Aug 16, 2007 1:41:59 GMT -5
Post by openmind on Aug 16, 2007 1:41:59 GMT -5
MAN , klaatu cover art is mesmeriziing , these are great, sir army suit front seems to represent one group stepping into the inner circle and the back has another group leaving the inner circle, JOJO does it happen to show the artist for hope and sir army suit on the inner sleeve possibly. thanks in advance.
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KLAATU
Aug 16, 2007 4:50:45 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Aug 16, 2007 4:50:45 GMT -5
The song Hope was written by John Woloschuk, but there isn't a song named Sir Army Suit on the album of that name. The "inner circle" business is an interesting take, the I Am The Walrus video in MMT takes that "looking through a circle" point of view..
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KLAATU
Aug 16, 2007 7:02:45 GMT -5
Post by mommybird on Aug 16, 2007 7:02:45 GMT -5
Has anyone else noticed that the terrain inside the circle on the "Sir Army Suit" album cover is very similar to the terrain in the "Fool on the Hill" video ? Sir Army Suit - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Sir Army Suit = Sgt. Pepper ?
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KLAATU
Aug 16, 2007 8:55:56 GMT -5
Post by plastic paul on Aug 16, 2007 8:55:56 GMT -5
Has anyone else noticed that the terrain inside the circle on the "Sir Army Suit" album cover is very similar to the terrain in the "Fool on the Hill" video ? Sir Army Suit - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Sir Army Suit = Sgt. Pepper ? Ah yes that's a very good spot MB.
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KLAATU
Aug 16, 2007 20:15:31 GMT -5
Post by jarvitronics on Aug 16, 2007 20:15:31 GMT -5
Has anyone else noticed that the terrain inside the circle on the "Sir Army Suit" album cover is very similar to the terrain in the "Fool on the Hill" video ? Sir Army Suit - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Sir Army Suit = Sgt. Pepper ? Just a meaningless observation . . . Sir Army Suit is an anagram for MY SIRIUSTAR. Sirius is the brightest star in the night sky. What appears to be a single star is actually a binary star-system. Two stars in one. If the album were named in the plural, Sir Army Suits, then the anagram would be MY SIRIUS STAR, but that is not the case, so the anagram we get from Sir Army Suit fuses two words into one, like the star. -j
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KLAATU
Aug 16, 2007 21:24:59 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Aug 16, 2007 21:24:59 GMT -5
Just a meaningless observation . . . Sir Army Suit is an anagram for MY SIRIUSTAR. Sirius is the brightest star in the night sky. What appears to be a single star is actually a binary star-system. Two stars in one. If the album were named in the plural, Sir Army Suits, then the anagram would be MY SIRIUS STAR, but that is not the case, so the anagram we get from Sir Army Suit fuses two words into one, like the star. -j Brilliant. Probably more to this, but had to say..
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KLAATU
Aug 17, 2007 6:34:34 GMT -5
Post by plastic paul on Aug 17, 2007 6:34:34 GMT -5
Yes I'll second that, very good.
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