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Post by LOVELYRITA on Sept 26, 2006 21:20:32 GMT -5
Lili, you know it.....One creeped out woman for sure..Always had a bad vibe about her... Even if she may have been misquoted....she's still one weird woman...
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Post by beatlies on Sept 27, 2006 3:02:42 GMT -5
WALKING ON THIN ICE (recorded on December 8, 1980) by Yoko Ono Walking on thin ice, I'm paying the price For throwing the dice in the air. Why must we learn it the hard way And play the game of life with your heart? I gave you my knife, You gave me my lifeLike a gush of wind in my hair. Why do we forget what's been said And play the game of life with our hearts? I may cry some day, But the tears will dry whichever way. And when our hearts return to ashes, It'll be just a story, It'll be just a story. [sounds of Yoko vomiting] Ai-ai-ai-ai-ai-ai-ai-ai... Ooh-ahooh... [Spoken] I knew a girl who tried to walk across the lake, course it was winter when all this was ice. That's a hell of a thing to do, you know. They say the lake is as big as the ocean. I wonder if she knew about it? Ai-ai-ai-ai-ai-ai-ai-ai... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ So she gave him her knife, but she also said she shot him ---was he shot or stabbed, or both? SLEEVE FOR THE SINGLE OF "WALKING ON THIN ICE" (A SIDE) (B Side is "IT HAPPENED")
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Post by lili on Sept 27, 2006 11:35:52 GMT -5
I told my hubby about this thread. He's not into PID, but he is into Star Trek. They stole most of our written material, but he says that he has a few dvds of Star Trek. One of them is the Star Trek Companion. He told me to tell you that Star Trek is only second to porno as far as what is available concerning it on the internet ! ;D I'm going to research the Trouble With Tribbles & see what shakes loose. [img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Dunno2[1].gif"]
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Oct 2, 2006 18:55:17 GMT -5
I was researching something else and I found a link that mentioned Beatles so I read it. You will have to scroll down a bit to get to where there was some correspondence between some people. educate-yourself.org/lte/cominguptospeedonmc31mar05.shtml The one mentioned about Paul Mc Cartney being killed and was "replaced with a clone"....and the cloning procedures came from aliens.. When you read something that sounds good at first, and then comes to this, one has to almost bust out laughing. Well, I have to say this, it doesn't say much for "alien technology" and their cloning of Paul Mc Cartney..... 1. a true clone would be an exact duplicate of the original in appearance...Bill never looked exactly like JPM 2. if Bill were a clone, the "handlers" messed up his lip, ears and teeth...Almost as bad as the old horror movie when the clumsy lab helper, usually with a humpback, and usually named "Igor" drops a body part or two on the floor and mixes up the spare parts with some defective model, and the "finished product" is not the pure result the mad scientist intended. So "Igor" messed up big time...stretched the clone's body and face... I have to say, this was a ditty....
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Post by lili on Oct 3, 2006 8:19:29 GMT -5
Girl, that is hysterical !!!
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Post by beatlies on Oct 3, 2006 21:55:34 GMT -5
Beside the Knotts-hosted "Hollywood Palace" Hey Jude episode, Charlie Brill also appears with Don Knotts on the comedy LP album "Bill Dana Comedy Theater Presents: Hoo Ha! Direct from Noshville"; I just looked at it on froogle.
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Post by beatlies on Oct 5, 2006 15:05:56 GMT -5
INTERVIEW WITH BRILL AND MCCALL, FOOTAGE OF ED SULIVAN SHOW FEB 9 1964 DEBUT HERE. Future Lennon doppleganger agent Charlie Brill looks radically different from his "Arne Darvin" incarnation in the December 1967 Star Trek. For starters, some time between the ES show and Star Trek he had plastic surgery on his nose to make it exactly like John Lennon's ---that's immediately apparent: www.youtube.com/watch?v=llVq0tySTEsThe name of this show is "The Beatles: the Story Behind the Story." It was filmed in 1990. Someone please download/preserve it ! Compare 1964-Brill with the Transformed Man-Brill of 1967 in "The Trouble with Tribbles": www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNQr2y3ydDAI've seen the entire Feb 9 debut ES show twice, even the commercials. Mitzi McCall is lying: there was NOT constant screaming in the audience and you could always hear the Beatles singing quite well, unless they had some way of completely blanking out any sounds from the audience, to the TV feed, which I doubt. That footage looks suspicious too ---there were not that many teenage girls in the audience and the camera honed in on one now and then, but it appeared (and you can see the video elsewhere for yourself) that it was just one here and there in an audience of mostly adults. Also, this "documentary" is falsely edited with innacurate splices and audio overdubs; it gives the appearance with a false splice in the beginning that the first song they did was "I wanna hold your hand" when it was not. In reality, the very first song the Beatles did was "All My Loving" with an opening solo by Beatle Paul. The speech of Charlie Brill in the 1990 interview seems overdubbed ---his lips don't quite match the words, although that might be anartifact of youtube or something else.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Oct 5, 2006 18:17:40 GMT -5
Didn't George sing a song about the words not coming out quite right....
I don't know, sounds like our Mr. Brill....
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Post by JoJo on Oct 5, 2006 18:56:00 GMT -5
Yes there is a point where the sound speeds up for a half sec or so, someone screwed up the encoding. There are a multitude of ways "out of sync" can happen, I've encoded 100's of times, I know.
They did open with "All My Loving". There are two reasons why audience noise isn't as loud on the feed from the stage as it might seem were you a member of the audience: mono directional microphones and theater acoustics, which by design send sound in one direction..from the stage. Even a college lecture hall works this way.. I was reminded of an art professor who once explained we had to shout our questions to him, because of the one way design of the sound transmission, he simply couldn't hear us otherwise.
Agreed it's likely the cameramen practiced a little on the fly selective editing of the audience makeup, looking for the screaming young teens, regardless of how many were actually there, made for good TV.
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Post by beatlies on Oct 5, 2006 19:20:55 GMT -5
Another face of Charlie Brill ("Beatle Ed"?) "Boys stood upon their chairs to make their point of view ..." ---David Bowie, on the Ziggy Startrek album
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Oct 6, 2006 19:40:11 GMT -5
Peculiar that he went from the dorky comedian to John Lennon-ish and back to dorky once again....
Was that part of the agreement? That he was only John for a brief time and then had to return to dorky to remove any trace of looking Lennon-ish? And the Beatle suit ....just too peculiar...
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Post by beatlies on Oct 9, 2006 18:39:25 GMT -5
Larger picture of Charlie Brill and his album cover for more detail. Note the differences in mouth, lips and nose from Charles Brill's Star Trek, re-sculpted Lennon-face.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Oct 9, 2006 21:49:47 GMT -5
This verse from "I'm A Loser" came to mind...don't know why, but it did. It was a song sung by John... .".although I laugh and I act like a clown.. beneath this mask I am wearing a frown"... Although he tries to be a comedian, beneath the image he's pretending to be John Lennon....
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Post by beatlies on Oct 10, 2006 5:11:14 GMT -5
I was looking over the John Lennon 1980 Playboy interview (there's tons of stuff to process here), and this "Charlie and Bill" statement of Lennon's jumped out:
Lennon: ........ Maybe they said we were under the spell of Brian Epstein or George Martin [the Beatles' first manager and producer, respectively]. There's always somebody who has to be doing something to you. You know, they're congratulating the Stones on being together 112 years. Whoooopee! At least Charlie and Bill still got their families. In the Eighties, they'll be asking, "Why are those guys still together? Can't they hack it on their own? Why do they have to be surrounded by a gang? Is the little leader scared somebody's gonna knife him in the back?" That's gonna be the question. That's-a-gonna be the question! ......
The Charlie and Bill of the Rolling Stones, but that's just a coincidence, of course ........
Was this the John Lennon of 1966 or Charlie Brill being interviewed, or neither?
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Post by Doc on Oct 10, 2006 5:26:25 GMT -5
I was looking over the John Lennon 1980 Playboy interview (there's tons of stuff to process here), and this "Charlie and Bill" statement of Lennon's jumped out: Lennon: ........ Maybe they said we were under the spell of Brian Epstein or George Martin [the Beatles' first manager and producer, respectively]. There's always somebody who has to be doing something to you. You know, they're congratulating the Stones on being together 112 years. Whoooopee! At least Charlie and Bill still got their families. In the Eighties, they'll be asking, "Why are those guys still together? Can't they hack it on their own? Why do they have to be surrounded by a gang? Is the little leader scared somebody's gonna knife him in the back?" That's gonna be the question. That's-a-gonna be the question! ...... The Charlie and Bill of the Rolling Stones, but that's just a coincidence, of course ........ Was this the John Lennon of 1966 or Charlie Brill being interviewed, or neither? I am beginning to wonder.......
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Post by lili on Oct 10, 2006 9:23:45 GMT -5
I've been wondering if beatlies believes it was Charlie Brill who sang on the Double Fantasy & Milk & Honey albums. Is it John or Charlie Brill posing naked next to Yoko in that famous photo shoot on the day that he was killed ?
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Post by beatlies on Oct 10, 2006 13:51:55 GMT -5
I've been wondering if beatlies believes it was Charlie Brill who sang on the Double Fantasy & Milk & Honey albums. Is it John or Charlie Brill posing naked next to Yoko in that famous photo shoot on the day that he was killed ? I wouldn't say I believe that, but I'm looking into the possibilities, as heretical as that may seem to some people. Some fascinating evidence and scenarios to consider.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Oct 10, 2006 20:49:29 GMT -5
I've been wondering if beatlies believes it was Charlie Brill who sang on the Double Fantasy & Milk & Honey albums. Is it John or Charlie Brill posing naked next to Yoko in that famous photo shoot on the day that he was killed ? OR....what if it were Charlie Brill and Yucko on the Two Virgins album cover? Maybe some things are better left to the imagination.....Forever burned in one's corneas.... However it's interesting the Rolling Stone reference to their Charlie and Bill, but that seems a bit too obvious, because the other Stones' have families as well, demented, like Mick's ecclectic family, but they all have families. I find it a curiosity that it may be a subliminal reference to Bill and Charlie of the PID/PWR tragedy. Although I don't need that Star Trek Image of Charlie Brill on my mind too close to bedtime. Last night I had a dream he appeared as John Lennon in that look. It was on a tv appearance but I don't remember what was supposed to have taken place. Like he came on the air and confessed he was living a Double Fantasy as John Lennon. Oh if something like this could happen, then when we turn on "Entertainment" news, it would not be about Anna Nicole Smith and her son's mysterious death, Paris Hilton's antics or the latest installment of "Brangelina".... Charlie Brill confesses he lived as John Lennon and the man we know as "Sir Paul" is really an imposter named Bill. Oh, this would be like a bomb...nobody would believe it...They'd be shocked and stunned.
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Post by lili on Oct 11, 2006 10:01:53 GMT -5
Yes, they would be shocked & stunned. And it would make the cover of every entertainment rag & magazine in the world !
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Post by beatlies on Oct 15, 2006 6:15:37 GMT -5
Fresh from his Charlie Lennon-Double Brill co-starring role in Star Trek, William "Bill" Shatner became the Fifth Beatle in 1968 when he released an album with his version of John Lennon's "Lucy IN THE SKY with Diamonds," The Transformed Man. Just like Charlie Brill was Darvinian evolution-transformed from Brill to Lennon: Captain Kirk trying out for the role of Lennon. One could hope, like Brill, on behalf of the group and ourselves, that he passed the audition. Bill Shatner also covers the "Transformed" Bob Dylan on this album with his despairing, disturbing declaiming of "Mr. Tambourine Man." Could Kirk be trying to transmit some clues on the communicator? Mitzi in the sky with dilithium crystals .......
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Post by Doc on Oct 15, 2006 7:23:18 GMT -5
Fresh from his Charlie Lennon-Double Brill co-starring role in Star Trek, William "Bill" Shatner became the Fifth Beatle in 1968 when he released an album with his version of John Lennon's "Lucy IN THE SKY with Diamonds," The Transformed Man. Just like Charlie Brill was Darvinian evolution-transformed from Brill to Lennon: Captain Kirk trying out for the role of Lennon. One could hope, like Brill, on behalf of the group and ourselves, that he passed the audition. Bill Shatner also covers the "Transformed" Bob Dylan on this album with his despairing, disturbing declaiming of "Mr. Tambourine Man." Could Kirk be trying to transmit some clues on the communicator? Mitzi in the sky with dilithium crystals ....... Good then we can have Beatles on the astral plane, or just, "The Fifth Dimensional Beatles."
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Post by beatlies on Oct 15, 2006 14:53:30 GMT -5
Fresh from his Charlie Lennon-Double Brill co-starring role in Star Trek, William "Bill" Shatner became the Fifth Beatle in 1968 when he released an album with his version of John Lennon's "Lucy IN THE SKY with Diamonds," The Transformed Man. Just like Charlie Brill was Darvinian evolution-transformed from Brill to Lennon: Captain Kirk trying out for the role of Lennon. One could hope, like Brill, on behalf of the group and ourselves, that he passed the audition. Bill Shatner also covers the "Transformed" Bob Dylan on this album with his despairing, disturbing declaiming of "Mr. Tambourine Man." Could Kirk be trying to transmit some clues on the communicator? Mitzi in the sky with dilithium crystals ....... Good then we can have Beatles on the astral plane, or just, "The Fifth Dimensional Beatles." Shatner's face is in half-shadow, too, exactly like the famous album cover of "Meet the Beatles."
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Post by beatlies on Oct 16, 2006 1:55:15 GMT -5
Don Knotts and Charlie Brill did a comedy album together called "Bill Dana Comedy Theater Presents: HOO HA! Direct from Noshville" --- Bill Dana Comedy Theatre "Hoo HA!" LP Don Knotts CAPITOL [BEATLES RECORD LABEL] ST-464 Producer- Other description- with DON KNOTTS / JOANIE GERBER / FRANK WELKER / JERRY MAYER / CHARLIE BRILL / BERNIE KOPELL ... "Of course, now the missing piece of the puzzle. Did he know Don Knotts? They share same agent, perhaps?"Funny you should you mention that, Doc, I found this January 1970 episode of "The Hollywood Palace" that should raise some eyebrows: Show 129) 1/31/70 Don Knotts Hosts Bobby Goldsboro(Proud Mary and Everybody's Talking), Joey Heatherton(Thank You Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin), Lance Rentzel(Sunny), The Baja Marimba Band(Hey Jude - instrumental), Mitzi McCall & Charlie Brill, Sunni Walton(impressionist), and Benito Venito(daredevil, man does tricks with swords) DV-5657 Frian, Fohn, Mitzi Ono and Hey Jude ("I'd Do Anything" tune from the Brill-Lennon Ed Sullivan Show) herald the breakup of the Beatles? Originally aired: Saturday January 31, 1970 on ABC Show Stars: Dick Tufeld (Announcer (1964-1970)), Mike Post (Orchestra Leader (1969-1970)), Raquel Welch (billboard girl (1st season)), Bing Crosby (Host (1964-1970)), Ernie Anderson (Himself/Substitute Announcer (1968)), Les Brown (Orchestra Leader (1964)) [original band leader for the real Doris Day], Mitchell Ayres (Orchestra Leader (1964-1969)) Recurring Role: Don Knotts (Himself, host), Joey Heatherton (Herself) Guest Stars: The Baja Marimba Band (Themselves) , Sunni Walton (Herself) , Bobby Goldsboro (Himself) , Mitzi McCall (Herself) , Charlie Brill (Himself) , Lance Rentzel (Himself) Production Code: 05-HP-70 Transcript: Show opening with Don Knotts in dressing room getting ready for show. Opening credits Commercial break: promo for ABC Sports Don Knotts opening comments, mentions his new movie "The Love God" --Joey Heatherton - "Thank You Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin" (production number with 6 male dancers) --Joey Heatherton talks briefly with Don Knotts Commercial: Polident Denture Tablets (testimonial by Mrs. Joan Porter, denture wearer) --Mitzi McCall & Charlie Brill (comedy team) - (1) after a hard-day's work, a husband arrives home to his unsympathetic wife. (2) What would happen if husband came home to a Mattel wind-up doll who tries to meet his every need. Commercial break: ABC promo for "The Mod Squad" --The Baja Marimba Band - "Hey Jude" (instrumental) Benito Venito (spelling?) - daredevil, does tricks with swords --Don Knotts chats with Joey Heatherton and Joey's husband Lance Rentzel, of the Dallas Cowboys. Commercial break: (1) Station ID break (2) ABC promo for "The F.B.I."
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Post by Doc on Oct 16, 2006 3:50:02 GMT -5
We're having a Hoo-ha! (I love that expression...)
Interesting find, great work! Oh, show business is so incestuous. Everybody figuratively sleeps around. At the very least.
Some of us are more faithful to our loves, our careers, our piano, whatever it is. Sometimes, true, to survive, we resort to bad jokes, catch phrases, and wigs, but that only goes to prove that we are troopers.
As for the Hollywood Palace--I remember watching that show and thinking it was ABC's attempt at capturing a Sullivan audience---at a time when the variety special was threatened with extinction.
Knotts I recall was a funny, charming, and amply gifted host on many occasions. I am beginning to remember Brill in his various incarnations. Funny they should work together on that sow. Perhaps its just a Kharmic Performer thing, I don't know.
Maybe that's how high level stars communicate. They guest star on variety shows, and then fill their routines with clues, the right kind of clues, for the other "in the know" entertainers to be able to "dig it."
Well goodnite. Tomorrow is another doris day.
Kaiserasura.
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Post by beatlies on Oct 16, 2006 4:10:47 GMT -5
That Hollywood Palace show was before my time Doc; I wish I could remember or find a clip of Don Knotts being himself in an interview or discussion. It always struck me that there was something strangely empty about him. He was a broad, farcical scarecrow character, great at what he did, but with no depth even offscreen. That may now be explained by Knotts leading the double life of a covert agent; funny to think of, but that's what spies are supposed to be, the ones you would't suspect. Knotts started out in entertainment with the U.S. military, as an army entertainer with a ventriloquist act.
I don't recall seeing Brill and/or McCall in anything on TV or anywhere.
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