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Post by TotalInformation on Apr 27, 2006 21:25:52 GMT -5
I think Klaatu.org is semi-official, so be open to the idea this guy is giving you the business.
All very interesting, though.
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Post by JoJo on Apr 28, 2006 14:39:02 GMT -5
Another reply:
>Am I to understand that if an album or 45 is pressed on Styrene >it will routinely glow under a black light?
That is my understanding. If you've got some mid 80s 45s, check them under a blacklight and see what you find.
Also note, that if you have a 45 which is Styrene, you will be able to see through it enough to identify a light source. A regular vinyl 45 doesn't do that. I don't know if an LP will or not since I've never seen a Styrene LP.
>It might help to illustrate, so I am enclosing pics of side one and >side two taken under a black light.
That's what it would look like. That, to me at least, says that this is a Styrene LP.
Hmm OK well you sure can't see a light source through this, if anything, it's thicker than a usual LP. Something maybe a bit pat about this explanation, although that doesn't mean that he's wrong about the 80's 45's. Anyone with 80's 45's out there? I stopped buying them long before..
I may agree with you, something smells fishy to me..
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Post by TotalInformation on Apr 28, 2006 16:24:59 GMT -5
Would it eb worthwhile to post the 45 pics he sent?
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Post by JoJo on Apr 28, 2006 16:46:48 GMT -5
Sorry about that, the lines with the ">" are mine, I sent him pics of (my) glowing Pepper.
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Post by JoJo on May 21, 2006 13:59:57 GMT -5
Well, found what must be a styrene album, of all things the "Son of Dracula" soundtrack with Nilsson and Ringo among others. (just picked it up in a little used record shop) It is flimsy in feel, very thin. It brings back memories, I do remember the occasional album with this feel, and how my uncle would complain about the sound quality from these types of LP's. Under the naked eye, what you see is a glowing yellow, more or less solid, with some faint streaks radiating from the center. It is NOT anything like the glowing pepper, Pepper is a different color, has an elaborate design, and glows far more brightly. I did my best here, where the glow is so weak it didn't turn out that great, but you can see what I'm talking about: Those small streaks of green are where there are some nasty scratches. How the Klaatu guy could think the Pepper pics I sent him and this show the same thing... is beyond me..
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Post by TotalInformation on May 21, 2006 14:38:38 GMT -5
Was that pic taken under a blacklight? I don't see anything particularly strange on my copy of Son of Dracula looking ta it in daylight. (I still need a decent blacklight.)
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Post by JoJo on May 21, 2006 17:19:03 GMT -5
It's clearly different than any other album under UV light, it's quite underwhelming after Pepper of course.
The most low effort way to find a good black light is to go to the mall and pick one up at Spencer's Gifts.
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Post by TotalInformation on Jun 3, 2006 19:50:48 GMT -5
Jojo, I did this to your side one pic in a graphics editor. Is this closer to what you see when you turn out the light?
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Post by JoJo on Jun 3, 2006 21:56:05 GMT -5
Heh, looks like an eye with the center blacked out. But no, the color is green, and the details, meaning the patterns on the outer section of the disk are as clear as I've shown.
It would be fair to say there were dozens of tries, and apart from the focus not being as sharp as I'd like, what you see is what I see..
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Post by TotalInformation on Jun 11, 2006 11:23:39 GMT -5
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Post by il ras on Jun 12, 2006 20:35:58 GMT -5
Curiously it reminds me the flower at the end of the video of the Tears for Fears' song "Sowing the seeds of love". That video is also full of images (the pyramid with the eye, some "lennonish" drawings...)
PS: at the very end of the video, the earth turns round the flower...
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Post by plastic paul on Jun 13, 2006 5:37:32 GMT -5
Curiously it reminds me the flower at the end of the video of the Tears for Fears' song "Sowing the seeds of love". That video is also full of images (the pyramid with the eye, some "lennonish" drawings...) PS: at the very end of the video, the earth turns round the flower... You are right there ilras, well spotted! I remember seeing that video a couple of months ago and I was going to make a post on it, but it must have slipped my mind. The video is very NWO in my opinion.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 16, 2006 22:47:41 GMT -5
Sowing the Seeds of LoveThe flower at the end that the earth circles is a SUNflower, previously, the sun figures in the video as the members of the group pass through a gauntlet of toy birds bobbing down for a drink of water. Ra
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Post by JoJo on Jul 31, 2006 22:18:28 GMT -5
The video for Pink Floyd's Brain Damage seems to insist on making some connection here: eye - eclipse - eye - eclipse - etc.
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 3, 2006 22:41:30 GMT -5
I wonder whose eyes they used.
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Aug 7, 2006 9:36:03 GMT -5
maybe that has to do with the next song being "Eclipse"? btw I tried my stereo pepper under a black light, and nothing showed up (we established that already, but I still find it strange). I don't even know of the black light is working properly, so maybe thats it.
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Post by JoJo on Aug 7, 2006 18:45:11 GMT -5
maybe that has to do with the next song being "Eclipse"? btw I tried my stereo pepper under a black light, and nothing showed up (we established that already, but I still find it strange). I don't even know of the black light is working properly, so maybe thats it. Well yes of course the next song is Eclipse, however one shouldn't look at the most trivial explanation and come full stop. (especially with Floyd, wow) There are many who are satisfied with just plodding along on the surface of things, never digging any deeper.. TI calls them "flat earthers", a most apt description. Btw, I'm not saying that is the case with you, else you wouldn't be here in the first place, just saying be mindful of the the idea that there are (always) multiple possibilities.. About the Pepper album, I think it's pretty well established (although there may be exceptions) that you need a first pressing, and especially a mono version, and out of those..there aren't that many. As long as it's a flourescent tube black light, it will reveal the pattern. (if it's there)
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Post by plastic paul on Nov 20, 2006 19:57:44 GMT -5
Just realised again, thanks to 4K, how much I need to invest in a blacklight!
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Post by JoJo on Jan 8, 2007 18:22:23 GMT -5
Just a bump from members only..
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Post by mysteryboy on Mar 4, 2007 16:07:34 GMT -5
Yikes! Be careful. But you may be correct, in that it still "glows" after all these years. It's difficult to believe some ordinary consumer product would produce the same effect after 40 years. Cats are able to perceive frequencies that our eyes cannot, that's a fact. He/she appears to perceive something harmful or at least very unusual as well.. Btw, the Moodies are great, I bought a lot of their early vinyl just for the album art, as well as the one with Denny of course. "I can't tell you but I know it's mined"
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Post by fourthousandholes on Mar 4, 2007 16:17:19 GMT -5
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Post by mysteryboy on Mar 4, 2007 17:17:26 GMT -5
I know. Thanks just the same. It was just a play on words in reference to the general feeling that the material used on the "Glowing Peppers" is not standard black light fare. Unlike black light objects, the patterns seen on the Peppers are invisible under normal lighting conditions.
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Post by fourthousandholes on Mar 4, 2007 17:39:36 GMT -5
I'd agree that the line may have been a hint to the listeners to turn out the lights (except for a black light) and see what was glowing. That was a common practice in the late 60s and early 70s. ;D
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Post by JoJo on Mar 4, 2007 18:37:54 GMT -5
I think Mysteryboy is saying you can't always take the printed lyrics at face value necessarily. Well, that's come to be my belief anyway.. As a matter of fact, printing them channels you away from any interpretations someone may not wish you to have, think about them apples..
How about this:
Lend me your ears and I'll sing you a song, and I'll try not to sing out a key
(keys are used for decrypting)
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Mar 4, 2007 18:44:23 GMT -5
Music has lost much with the advent of the iPod. No cool album cover tricks, and you can't spin it backwards. Not to mention, if your battery dies, you gotta send it off to apple who (instead of replacing the battery) just sends you a refurbished iPod so you lose all your songs. But I too am guilty, I own one but only for the convienience of having whole discographies in my pocket.
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