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Post by iameye on Mar 11, 2009 8:17:35 GMT -5
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Mar 14, 2009 15:38:28 GMT -5
Winston Legthigh and "Mike" Jagger chat before Lennon joins "Dirty Mac" on stage, to play YER BLUES on The Rolling Stones Rock & Roll Circus.
At the 1:00 mark, Jagger says:
"You're a blues, John.
You're a blues, John.
You're a blues, John."
And doesn't Lennon's nose look bigger and hookier than normal here?
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Post by B on Mar 14, 2009 18:14:49 GMT -5
Eric provides the red polarity to John's blue, but what's with everyone in the audience wearing yellow monks' robes? Johnny Durante's nose knows no bounds, but it doesn't look any bigger and hookier than normal to me. Who nose? But speaking of noses and red, Bozo the Clown creator Alan Livingston dies at 91news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090314/ap_en_mu/obit_livingston"LOS ANGELES – Alan W. Livingston, the music executive who created Bozo the Clown and signed the Beatles during his tenure as president of Capitol Records, has died. He was 91. Livingston began his multifaceted career in show business as a writer and producer of children's read-along record albums for Capitol Records. He came up with the Bozo the Clown character for the 1946 album "Bozo at the Circus," which became a hit and spawned a cottage industry of merchandise and the television series featuring the wing-haired clown. When he moved into executive positions at Capitol Records in the early 1950s, Livingston signed Frank Sinatra, then at a low point in his career, and introduced him to arranger Nelson Riddle. Together, the pair produced "I've Got the World on a String" and "Young At Heart," which led to Sinatra's comeback. Livingston left the record label in the late 1950s to work in television, where he produced the western series "Bonanza." He returned to Capitol Records as president in the 1960s, when he signed the Beach Boys and Steve Miller and the Band. When Livingston heard the Beatles song "I Want to Hold Your Hand," he agreed to release the single and brought the Fab Four to the United States in 1964 to promote it. Capitol, which was partly owned by the Beatles' record company EMI in the United Kingdom, earlier had rejected the group's initial hit singles as unsuitable for the American market. "He had great taste and judgment, as far as musical talent, and as an executive, he was always very mentoring, very supportive," said Neil Portnow, the president and CEO of the National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences, who worked with Livingston in the 1970s. In addition to Lerner, Livingston is survived by his wife Nancy Olson, one son, one daughter, and another stepdaughter. His late brother Jay Livingston, who died in 2001, was a composer who teamed with songwriter Ray Evans to produce such standards as "Mona Lisa," "Silver Bells" and "Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)" and the theme music for "Bonanza."" (What a career! )----------------------- I always thought it was that obnoxious Larry Harmon guy that invented Bozo, but noo.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Harmon"In 1956, Harmon purchased[/color] the licensing rights to the Bozo character from Capitol Records. Harmon marketed the Bozo property aggressively. By the late 1960s, Harmon had licensed local Bozo TV shows in nearly every major U.S. market, and across the world in places as far away as Thailand, Greece and Brazil. Harmon also produced a series of Bozo animated cartoons intended to be shown with the live-action show. Harmon's animation studio also produced eighteen Popeye cartoons in 1960 as part of a larger TV syndication package." ----------------------- All the children sing: Dave Davies (The Kinks): Death of a Clown [stereo]www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQXSgCug9NMOh! I never noticed that! At the line: "The old fortune teller lies dead on the floor" there is the roar of a jet engine, as if the perpetrator is getting out of town on a jet plane ("leaving on a jet plane")! (This is, of course, a PID/PWR song, imo.)
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Post by FAUllibLE on Mar 17, 2009 1:14:44 GMT -5
Fascinating post, puzzled. Unfortunately the last part, the video of "the ceremony of Madonna handing her position of High Priestess Whore over to Britney" is so full of misguided commentary from Texe Marrs that it would take a slew of posts to unravel the truth from all the bullshift. Hahaha thats funny stuff being its coming from you. Seriously, I thought his commentary was spot on. Texe is a smart man, sure he hasn't done the in depth research in things that are blue with a slew of posts that unraveled the truth from all the bullshift, but he has published some interesting works. What exactly was his mistake?
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Post by B on Mar 17, 2009 11:29:45 GMT -5
His mistake is a lack of an in depth understanding of the subject about which he speaks (from what I see of his remarks). I have neither the time nor the inclination to dissect and elaborate on his statements. Much of what he says is correct as far as it goes, but is too simplistic a presentation of the "facts" to paint a fair or accurate picture of the reality that the esoteric mysteries represent, to the viewers. I would grant that, given the circumstances of presenting material on a 9 minute YouTube video, any person would be hard-pressed to give the subjects he touches on their due. It would take hours to address everything he touches on, as well as a personal in depth knowledge that few mortals possess, including myself in many instances. A Madame Blavatsky or Manly Hall could bury him. He's out of his league when he attempts to address the esoteric material, which, if he understood, he would do differently, imo.
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Post by puzzled on Mar 17, 2009 15:07:12 GMT -5
Probably because he is an outsider looking in - instead of an insider sharing what they know.
Because of the hidden aspects, much of what can be seen will be undecipherable without the code. The symbolism is specific, and it is seen as vague symbolism.
Not that anyone asked me...
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Post by B on Mar 17, 2009 19:41:54 GMT -5
Thanks. I meant to say that. ;D
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Post by FAUllibLE on Mar 17, 2009 23:47:41 GMT -5
Probably because he is an outsider looking in - instead of an insider sharing what they know. Because of the hidden aspects, much of what can be seen will be undecipherable without the code. The symbolism is specific, and it is seen as vague symbolism. Not that anyone asked me... Exactly Mr. Marrs is exposing the occult and not a participant. Why would you even compare the two. However, he has worked with those that were once into the occult and were able to make it out. You can only get so much from those types because they only made it up the ranks so high and only got so many of the secrets divulged, less they were able to escape with their lives. That being said, you can only waste so much of your life looking into every minute detail. I like how he summarizes using a relevant methodology while coming to a conclusion that makes sense. His work on Ancient Babylonia is remarkable. His book "Codex Magicka" would educate a veteran occultist and has.
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Post by puzzled on Mar 18, 2009 0:04:22 GMT -5
His book "Codex Magicka" would educate a veteran occultist and has.
Ok, we disagree again.
He puts lots of pictures of symbols in that book. I do not agree that he has any deep insight into their meanings. Recognition of the system with no idea of the underlying meanings felt like a dead-end.
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Post by FAUllibLE on Mar 18, 2009 0:41:53 GMT -5
Oh you accually read the book? hmmmm The point of the book is not to go into pointless hours of looking into every little detail the occultist was trying to express. The broader picture was to let the reader know how occultism origins has influenced the powerful and elite and how the occultist agenda is being broadcast under our noses at such a large scale.
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Post by puzzled on Mar 19, 2009 17:12:58 GMT -5
Oh you accually read the book? hmmmm The point of the book is not to go into pointless hours of looking into every little detail the occultist was trying to express. The broader picture was to let the reader know how occultism origins has influenced the powerful and elite and how the occultist agenda is being broadcast under our noses at such a large scale. Believe it or not, I've read many of his books I will agree that it does succeed in giving a broader picture of influences in our society. I disagree that there are any real insights into those symbols or the actual mechanisms for how they are utilized by those in power. But back to the BLUE issue, I found this quote about Maat/Chaos magick, and I was unaware that the blue current of magick is related to wealth and prosperity. I naturally think of green, gold, or silver when thinking of monetary things. The number eight plays a prominent part in both Chaos Magick and Maat Magick. Eight arrows radiating from a central point is the primary symbol of Chaos, and it is used in "Liber Kaos" as the schema for eight types of Magick that are ascribed to various colours: Black: Death Magick, for experiencing the nature of death personally, or for sending death-spells. (I refrain from comment.) It seems to resonate with Saturn. Blue: Wealth Magick is Jupiterian. Green: Love Magick reflects the nature of Venus. Yellow: Ego Magick fits with Solar energy. A sub-similarity exists here with Maat Magick's Dance of the Masks. Purple or Silver: Sex Magick. Purple is for passion, and silver is for the moon. Orange: Thinking Magick is Mercurial in nature. Red: War Magick Octarine: Pure Magick, with octarine being the colour which the individual associates with the essence of Magick. It is interesting to note that although Chaos Magick doesn't use the Tree of Life as a structure template, the colours listed above with their particular Magicks correspond with the Queen Scale colours of the Sephiroth which share the same attributes. For me, Octarine evokes a spinning triad of white, gray and black, the Queen Scale colours of Kether, Chokmah and Binah. user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/sunrise/nema13.htm
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Post by puzzled on Mar 22, 2009 4:37:13 GMT -5
The Blue Jinn
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Post by B on Mar 22, 2009 9:48:37 GMT -5
Satan's name in Muslim is "I bless"?!
This video you posted, puzzled, is a masterful piece of metaphysical misrepresentation and misunderstanding coupled with fear-mongering imagery designed to engender distrust of non-Muslims among the faithful. And the addition of a few minutes of science at the end is a nice touch to legitimize the nonsense presented at the start. It is unfortunate that the power brokers of most all religious faiths have so fouled their own understanding of spiritual truths that they have left both themselves and their followers confused, disempowered, and ignorant of basic spiritual concepts and knowledge. For example, the Merkaba, mentioned in the video, is the transport vehicle of the soul. It has nothing to do with the Jinn per se, though they have them. But then, so do you. This video is nothing if not tragic, in that it demonstrates spiritual ignorance and baseless fear due to that ignorance. It is both sad and tragic. And lest anyone feel I am picking on it because it is "Muslim", I would hasten to say that I would will gladly rip into the "Christian" video that was posted in the "Where is JPM on 7/4/09?" thread with equal vigor, due to its equally and similarly misguided content.
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Post by puzzled on Mar 22, 2009 12:48:33 GMT -5
Satan's name in Muslim is "I bless"?! This video you posted, puzzled, is a masterful piece of metaphysical misrepresentation and misunderstanding coupled with fear-mongering imagery designed to engender distrust of non-Muslims among the faithful. And the addition of a few minutes of science at the end is a nice touch to legitimize the nonsense presented at the start. It is unfortunate that the power brokers of most all religious faiths have so fouled their own understanding of spiritual truths that they have left both themselves and their followers confused, disempowered, and ignorant of basic spiritual concepts and knowledge. For example, the Merkaba, mentioned in the video, is the transport vehicle of the soul. It has nothing to do with the Jinn per se, though they have them. But then, so do you. This video is nothing if not tragic, in that it demonstrates spiritual ignorance and baseless fear due to that ignorance. It is both sad and tragic. And lest anyone feel I am picking on it because it is "Muslim", I would hasten to say that I would will gladly rip into the "Christian" video that was posted in the "Where is JPM on 7/4/09?" thread with equal vigor, due to its equally and similarly misguided content. Well, you are certainly in a argumentative mood lately The video is not presented for its religious insights - only to provide another connection to belief in Blue People, just like the movie Watchmen (blue god-like dude). I was going to look for something about the Hindu blue gods that float around on clouds and zap people too - but I don't want to imply that I'm spreading evil lies to the brethren.
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Post by B on Mar 22, 2009 13:16:09 GMT -5
Well, post all the Hindu blue gods that float around on clouds and zap people too links you want, but know that if you post one that says Krishna is a demon because he wears the sun and horns emblem on his head, the way the video above suggested, then expect that I may have something to say about it. I am not trying to pick on you. I'm just saying that "the gods" can not be categorized that way, any more than most people can.
Yet that is what we hear - ad nauseum - from established religion.
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Post by puzzled on Mar 22, 2009 13:47:42 GMT -5
Well, post all the Hindu blue gods that float around on clouds and zap people too links you want, but know that if you post one that says Krishna is a demon because she wears the sun and horns emblem on her head, the way the video above suggested, then expect that I may have something to say about it. I am not trying to pick on you. I'm just saying that "the gods" can not be categorized that way, any more than most people can. Yet that is what we hear - ad nauseum - from established religion. I agree with you whole-heartedly there, regarding the demonization of things not understood. But again, this thread isn't about religious dogma (unless I misunderstood the OP), so I wasn't searching for religious beliefs that support a logical cosmology - I was looking for blue people. No, actually I was just watching the video, but it had blue people in it and I thought it was interesting. Maybe the Anthropologist in me just finds all cultural uniqueness interesting. And looking around the Blogosphere shows a lot of discussion of Blue people, Blue genetics (?), Blue Apples, Blue Brotherhood all of a sudden, so there is a meme trying to be spoken. I wonder what it is?
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Post by B on Mar 22, 2009 18:03:45 GMT -5
There is a good summary of the Islamic view of the Jinn here, as well as other material. Notice that they need not necessarily be considered evil, despite the traditional view of them as generally being so. www.alien-earth.org/forum/message.php?message=33965&mpage=1&showdate=3/22/09For a much more interesting understanding of the situation, l recommend the series of YT videos I posted at the Stewart Swerdlow thread in the Forum Hopping section.
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Post by FAUllibLE on Mar 29, 2009 19:16:39 GMT -5
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Post by B on Jun 20, 2009 8:19:58 GMT -5
Rituals of the Hexagram from thelemistas.org[/color] thelemistas.org/en/MSS/SpiritualExercises/12-hexagram"The rituals of the Hexagram, while sharing certain surface similarities to those of the Pentagram are related to an ontologically higher level. The Pentagram symbolizes the dominion of the equilibrated microcosm over its constituent elements. The Hexagram symbolizes the macrocosm, inclusive of and in union with that equilibrated microcosm. The symbol is composed of two interlaced triangles and is known within the Jewish tradition as the Magen David, or Star of David. The triangles represent the union of God and Man achieved in the Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel. The figure's six points allude to the Sephirah Tiphareth, where this attainment occurs. Its ability to be inscribed exactly within a circle shows, like the Pentagram, that its significance devolves from the divine unity. Typically, the downward pointing triangle is understood to be that of Water[/b], the upward pointing one that of Fire[/b]. These can be depicted as blue and red respectively. There is a counter-charged Thelemic variant of the Hexagram, which Crowley describes in The Book of Lies in the comment to Chapter 69. "In the ordinary Hexagram, the Hexagram of nature, the red triangle is upwards, like fire, and the blue triangle downwards, like water. In the magical Hexagram this is reversed; the decending red triangle is that of Horus[/b].... (It is the flame decending upon the altar, and licking up the burnt offering.) The blue triangle represents the aspiration, since blue is the color of devotion, and the triangle, kinetically considered, is the symbol of directed force."[/i] There is an additional layer of symbolism of the Hexagram related to the seven Ptolemaic planets. If the Pentagram and its rituals represent the plane of the terrestrial elements, the Hexagram represents the plane of the planets, centered in the Sun, which is ultimately a symbol of the Holy Guardian Angel. Part of the work of the adept is to harmonize the aspects of the psyche with the Higher Self, of which the planets form the aspects. This is the ultimate purpose of planetary Magick. " - (more at link)The blue triangle represents the aspiration[/i]
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Post by B on Jun 20, 2009 9:22:03 GMT -5
He's Horus "consuming" the audience. Well, that's not quite right. "...the Hexagram represents the plane of the planets, centered in the Sun, which is ultimately a symbol of the Holy Guardian Angel. Part of the work of the adept is to harmonize the aspects of the psyche with the Higher Self, of which the planets form the aspects. This is the ultimate purpose of planetary Magick." He is the balanced aspects of red and blue, hence centered as the Holy Guardian Angel in the sun. Symbollicly of course! ;D
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jan 2, 2010 15:01:26 GMT -5
I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with the television program called Millennium, but it often intersected with the mystic/religious/conspiracy concepts that we associate with the PID/PWR enigma. Here's a synopsis: "Millennium was an American thriller-horror-drama television series, created by Chris Carter after the success of his previous television series, The X-Files. Millennium aired on the Fox Network in the United States from the fall of 1996 to the spring of 1999.
Millennium featured Frank Black, a freelance forensic profiler and former FBI agent with a unique ability to see the world through the eyes of serial killers and murderers, though he was not psychic. Black investigated the most horrific crimes and dealt with the mysterious Millennium Group, whose power and sinister intentions became more clear throughout the series.
The Millennium Group is a fictional centuries old secret society and criminal investigative consulting firm. The organization dates back to ancient times, and grew out of a millenniallist Christian sect which was eventually co-opted by elements within the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
The group is claimed to be in possession of a substantial body of secret knowledge - hoarding it until such a time as they think it would be opportune to disclose to the public. Through the years they have been a group of determined and (at times) desperate people trying to find the hidden motivations and agendas in the "events" of our history, looking for moments when the human and the inhuman intelligences have crossed paths, studying whatever clues they can find, and attempting to piece together the future. They are trying to find the appropriate branch of the future to take, the branch which will shift the control from these inhuman elements and into their hands. These objectives have forced them to ignore conventional ethics governing individuals in exchange for the responsibility of ensuring the survival of mankind. Some junior members of the organization are unaware of this agenda, having not yet been initiated into full membership.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_(TV_series)
So anyhow... I've been rewatching the entire series on DVD and recently viewed the episode called A Room With No View. This episode features a recurring character who is an earthy representation of LEGION, named LUCY Butler. This time around, Lucy is kidnapping teens and and creating mind controlled slaves. Her method involves the constant playing of Paul Mauriat's version of LOVE IS BLUE, which reminded me of this thread. Here's a clip: I'm also reminded of these images that were inexplicably placed in Braverman's Cream of the Beatles.
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Post by jestertor on Apr 24, 2010 1:54:47 GMT -5
"The Lincoln Imp is the symbol of the City of Lincoln, the county town of Lincolnshire, England.
According to a 14th-century legend two mischievous creatures called imps were sent by Satan to do evil work on Earth. After causing mayhem in Northern England, the two imps headed to Lincoln Cathedral where they smashed tables and chairs and tripped up the Bishop. When an angel came out of a book of hymns and told them to stop, one of the imps was brave and started throwing rocks at the angel but the other imp cowered under the broken tables and chairs. The angel turned the first imp to stone giving the second imp a chance to escape." Source: Wiki.
Having trouble embedding an image of the Imp (and apologies to everybody if this subject has already been covered - the search facility seems remarkably opaque), but there are plenty available.
On the revised 'Butcher' cover Lennon is sat in a pose highly reminiscent of that of the Lincoln Imp and Paul McCartney could be construed as cowering in a box (yes, I know there are several potential interpretations...). The coloured text I feel needs no explanation.
What's this got to do with being 'tangled up in blue?' - well check out the blue apples which appear in the Cathedral and be prepared for the whole Dan Vinci rollercoaster ride to begin...
Incidentally, I lived in Lincoln as a child, knew the Cathedral and found it a curiously unpleasant space oozing with a definitely unchristian vibe. When I recently looked into the subject I was not in the least surprised to find out that other people too sensed a whiff of some spiritual cesspit.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Apr 24, 2010 10:01:31 GMT -5
"The Lincoln Imp is the symbol of the City of Lincoln, the county town of Lincolnshire, England. According to a 14th-century legend two mischievous creatures called imps were sent by Satan to do evil work on Earth. After causing mayhem in Northern England, the two imps headed to Lincoln Cathedral where they smashed tables and chairs and tripped up the Bishop. When an angel came out of a book of hymns and told them to stop, one of the imps was brave and started throwing rocks at the angel but the other imp cowered under the broken tables and chairs. The angel turned the first imp to stone giving the second imp a chance to escape." Source: Wiki. Having trouble embedding an image of the Imp (and apologies to everybody if this subject has already been covered - the search facility seems remarkably opaque), but there are plenty available. On the revised 'Butcher' cover Lennon is sat in a pose highly reminiscent of that of the Lincoln Imp and Paul McCartney could be construed as cowering in a box (yes, I know there are several potential interpretations...). The coloured text I feel needs no explanation. What's this got to do with being 'tangled up in blue?' - well check out the blue apples which appear in the Cathedral and be prepared for the whole Dan Vinci rollercoaster ride to begin... Incidentally, I lived in Lincoln as a child, knew the Cathedral and found it a curiously unpleasant space oozing with a definitely unchristian vibe. When I recently looked into the subject I was not in the least surprised to find out that other people too sensed a whiff of some spiritual cesspit. Here are the blue apples. There's a lot of very interesting stuff going on here, jestertor. In addition to the above tidbits, there are people who believe that Lincoln, England is the "New Jerusalem", which, of course, makes one wonder why a new one is needed. Until, that is, one realizes that Israel is about to be destroyed as the prelude to Armageddon. But moving right along... Lincoln Cathedral also has connections to the Knights Templar, the grail, Rennes-le-Chateau, and Sirius worship. I made the Paul as Sirius connection beginning in reply #131 in the Sgt. Pepper Enigma thread. invanddis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5758&page=6This cat sums it all up rather nicely: "Much of the hidden symbology within the Cathedral alludes to the bright and morning star Sirius and the current chapel dedicated to Mary in the Cathedral is called the Morning chapel. According to 'The Da Vinci Code', the Grail waits underneath ancient Roslin. This may be alluding to the ROSe Window at LINcoln - spelling ROSLIN. Brown's alleged fiction assures us that She, Mary, the Grail, rests at last beneath the starry skies...given that the Rose Window is a planisphere, the Round Table given to Guinevere (correctly pronounced 'Queen-of-air'), a map or atlas of the Northern Constellations, a possible reinterpretation can read 'rests ATLASt' beneath the starry skies of the Rose Window, atlas of the Northern Heavens? Radio astronomy has proven to us that the iron content of the star Sirius is the same as the iron in our blood and the iron of the earth and of our solar system. Sirius is our blood.....the Blood and the Grail? ghtchat.myfunforum.org/archive/the-hidden-mysteries-of-lincoln-cathedral__o_t__t_492.htmlAnd speaking of the secret below the ROSE Window...
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Post by jestertor on Apr 24, 2010 10:47:17 GMT -5
Thanks for not laughing me out of court P(D).
If I remember correctly, Ringo's 'Back Off Bugaloo' was graced with a blue apple on the 7" vinyl; there well may be others.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Apr 24, 2010 11:11:44 GMT -5
Thanks for not laughing me out of court P(D). If I remember correctly, Ringo's 'Back Off Bugaloo' was graced with a blue apple on the 7" vinyl; there well may be others. Nothing to laugh about, jestertor. It's all VERY interesting.
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