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Post by Red Lion on Jan 4, 2008 14:57:03 GMT -5
I thought there was a thread on this already but was unable to locate.  Apologies for the scale being slightly off. Same guy? |
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Post by iameye on Jan 4, 2008 15:41:05 GMT -5
same guy? I believe so.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jan 4, 2008 19:31:32 GMT -5
Same guy yes but with Paul's head placed over top of Faul's. |
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Post by plastic paul on Jan 4, 2008 19:39:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not quite sure without a proper comparasion but it appears as though one is clearly not JPM. (See DarkHorse's comment)
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Post by fireman on Jan 4, 2008 20:28:19 GMT -5
I thought there was a thread on this already but was unable to locate. Apologies for the scale being slightly off. Same guy? Good post...his head does look ever so different in your comparison... ... Also, notice the hand position in both photos, it really doesn't seem to change much... ... RedLion, could you please post both photos separate from each other? |
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Post by Red Lion on Jan 5, 2008 0:27:34 GMT -5
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Post by DarkHorse on Jan 5, 2008 1:07:54 GMT -5
Whoever it is in this pic, it is not Paul. Because THIS person has hyper-extended knees which Paul did NOT have. I have seen many pics of Paul and videos of him walking...including the Shea Stadium footage and it was clear he did not have hyper-extended knees. I know what this looks like as I have the same thing with my knees. |
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Post by B on Jan 5, 2008 10:45:36 GMT -5
What are hyper-extended knees? (Answers own question) : www.thebodyseries.com/newsletters/2003/07/07_28_2003.html".... This is when the knees go beyond a neutral leg position. When your legs are aligned correctly the middle of the hips, knees, and ankles are all in a straight line over one another when you look from the side. In hyperextension the knees go farther back, making an S shape to the legs if viewed from the side. A challenge with working with hyperextended knees in first position is that when you go into the hyperextension, there is a tendency to rotate the thighs inward, which is working against your desire goal for increased turnout! There are a few other problems that can occur over time. Sometimes dancers with hyper extended legs are not as strong in their quadriceps (front of the thigh muscles) as is optimal. I understand that when you bring your feet closer together in first position, then the knees feel bent to you, and not as strong as when you have them fully locked back..." |
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Post by fireman on Jan 5, 2008 11:35:22 GMT -5
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Post by Red Lion on Jan 5, 2008 12:34:01 GMT -5
Just for kicks.  |
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Post by pataphysical on Jan 5, 2008 14:40:02 GMT -5
Whoever it is in this pic, it is not Paul. Because THIS person has hyper-extended knees which Paul did NOT have. I have seen many pics of Paul and videos of him walking...including the Shea Stadium footage and it was clear he did not have hyper-extended knees. I know what this looks like as I have the same thing with my knees. DarkHorse, I think the angle of the lower leg is an illusion caused by the wind blowing the pants cuff towards our right. This is also blowing Bill's hair forward and flat, making him look more "Paul-like". The gnarly feet (especially the back one) points to all "Pauls" being the same one in these pics, IMO. -pata |
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Post by DarkHorse on Jan 5, 2008 16:12:33 GMT -5
DarkHorse, I think the angle of the lower leg is an illusion caused by the wind blowing the pants cuff towards our right. This is also blowing Bill's hair forward and flat, making him look more "Paul-like". Look at the heel and follow it up to the knee and upwards. It curves like it would if it were hyperextended. But if you don't believe me, take a look at these pics: Faul's right leg  Faul's left leg in these three pics    ...and if you're not convinced, then you should be by this one:  |
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Post by pataphysical on Jan 5, 2008 16:43:35 GMT -5
Perhaps he has hyper-extended knees, but he looks to be bowlegged too! It may be the bend of the shin more than the hyper-extended knee making his legs look like that.
In either case, Bill definitely doesn't have straight legs!
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Post by DarkHorse on Jan 5, 2008 16:59:11 GMT -5
Perhaps he has hyper-extended knees, but he looks to be bowlegged too! It may be the bend of the shin more than the hyper-extended knee making his legs look like that. He's not bow-legged. We've proven that on other threads. His knees are hyper-extended. |
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Post by fireman on Jan 5, 2008 18:12:14 GMT -5
Perhaps he has hyper-extended knees, but he looks to be bowlegged too! It may be the bend of the shin more than the hyper-extended knee making his legs look like that. He's not bow-legged. We've proven that on other threads. His knees are hyper-extended. Any vintage pics available of a walking JPM that you could post? |
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Post by DarkHorse on Jan 6, 2008 12:11:33 GMT -5
Any vintage pics available of a walking JPM that you could post? I haven't found any yet. But here's a pic of Paul where you can see he is bow-legged(The gap between the knees is greater than gap between the feet)  |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 6, 2008 20:21:17 GMT -5
Gnarly toes....somewhere there are feet comparisons and BIll has gnarly toes...
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Post by tafultong on Jan 7, 2008 0:24:13 GMT -5
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Post by Doc on Jan 7, 2008 1:00:52 GMT -5
Perfectly normal looking knees, really. The skin just under the patellae is somewhat loose, but then, I am only 50, and mine is much worse! Oh, yes, patella means knee cap. But it made me think of this pic from long ago, from the now infamous (to us) Mal Evens home movie montage:  Now, look how long his legs and torso. I am hoping that he just got stretched in 8mm, or else, when they was doin' cosmetic surgery on Bill to Paul-ize him, they chopped out some leg, too. Ewwwee! Sounds like no fun at all. Like, smash the lower leg bones, go in and remove bone (like, with a chain saw, gag me), cut away some muscle and fat, and sew it up and call it a shorter pair of legs. That's kind of nauseating, as surgery goes. I don't really think that they can do that. It would forever mess up your walking and nerves and stuff. They can't make you shorter. The frame this picture comes from must be in a bad ratio. He looks 6'2" in it, and he is 5'11". |
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Post by Doc on Jan 7, 2008 1:07:18 GMT -5
DarkHorse, I think the angle of the lower leg is an illusion caused by the wind blowing the pants cuff towards our right. This is also blowing Bill's hair forward and flat, making him look more "Paul-like". Look at the heel and follow it up to the knee and upwards. It curves like it would if it were hyperextended. But if you don't believe me, take a look at these pics: Faul's right leg Faul's left leg in these three pics ...and if you're not convinced, then you should be by this one: Optical illusions, I suspect. I like the suit, and I like the comfy shoes, too. Way to be comfortable. Why are we obligated to wearing binding, hard dress shoes all the time? Our feet deserve better treatment. Our feet don't care how trendy or formal they look. They just want to be cushy and have breathing room. I am for Foot Liberation. |
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Post by ramone on Jan 7, 2008 1:24:45 GMT -5
That's it- I'm burning my pumps.
and joining the FLN-
the Foot Liberation Nation
Slogan under consideration-
United we stand,
Divided we faul
Ok, that's pretty bad, but it's late and I'm groggy.
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Post by B on Jan 7, 2008 1:28:55 GMT -5
Feetle Freedom! Begone, Old Brown Shoe! Blue Suede Crocks! Hey! You've Got to Hide those Shoes Away!  Lovely Rita is much better at this than I am. |
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Post by Doc on Jan 7, 2008 3:26:14 GMT -5
Feetle Freedom! Begone, Old Brown Shoe! Blue Suede Crocks! Hey! You've Got to Hide those Shoes Away! Lovely Rita is much better at this than I am. lol nice O-pradi, O-prada. |
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Post by iameye on Jan 7, 2008 8:41:17 GMT -5
I don't really think that they can do that. It would forever mess up your walking and nerves and stuff. They can't make you shorter. sure they can, the man on the right is a living proof war veteran with no shins!  oh wait, I think ol Cotton Hill died last year, RIP soldier! It wasn't from complications from surgery, though.........  |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 7, 2008 20:19:33 GMT -5
Feetle Freedom! Begone, Old Brown Shoe! Blue Suede Crocks! Hey! You've Got to Hide those Shoes Away! Lovely Rita is much better at this than I am. Well, I do my best, but it comes unplanned.... Let's see my attempt here.... Bill's FauxTOE opportunities... Feet The Feetles I Want to Hold Your Foot Roll Over Feethoven Dr. Scholl's Only Foot's Club Band ( ) Happiness Is A Warm Sock The Continuining Story of FungusTOE Bill Hey FungusToe Bill Who did you kill fungustoe Bill? He went out walkin' on the beach barefoot In case of accidents he always took his socks ....all the children sing... I'm worn out.. |
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Lovely Rita is much better at this than I am.