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Post by theanswer on Mar 18, 2009 21:04:47 GMT -5
Before I explain how I arrived at all of this (I have to go to work soon, so I'll have to do it later) here is one more piece of evidence which shows the connection between the Devil, Lucifer, and the character "Pink" from the 25th anniversary edition DVD of the movie The Wall at the end of "Is There Anybody Out There?" the captions are the voices from the TV set as Pink reveals his new "nazi" look... (I'll work on explaining the rest in a couple of days from now...gotta go to work)
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Mar 20, 2009 10:19:23 GMT -5
A couple of things jumped out at me while reading the above about Parsons.
First: "Apparently noting that Antichrist is only a few letters away from anarchist the manifesto that follows is in large part an exhortation to "do what thou wilt" in most things bodily-fluid-drenched, economic and/or political. The goal of all these efforts, according to Metzger, was to bring on the Apocalypse, since in theory things can only get better from there." This made me think about the lyrics to Anarchy In the U.K., by a band (Sex Pistols) who I've always thought were tools of the elite. In fact, I need to make some time to do some investigation into Malcolm McLaren. This might be the most thelemic song ever written..."I am an antichrist I am an anarchist Dont know what I want but I know how to get it I wanna destroy the passer by cos I
I wanna be Anarchy!
No dog's body
Anarchy for the U.K Its coming sometime and maybe I give a wrong time stop a traffic line Your future dream is a shopping scheme cos I
I wanna be Anarchy!
In the city
How many ways to get what you want? I use the best - I use the rest I use the enemy I use anarchy
'Cos I
I wanna be Anarchy!
The only way to be!
Is this the M.P.L.A Or is this the U.D.A Or is this the I.R.A I thought it was the U.K. Or just Another Country Another council tenancy
I wanna be an anarchist Oh what a name Get pissed - destroy!" The other part of the above that I found very interesting is that Parsons' biography is called Love and Rockets[/b][/color]. This reminded me of the band called Love and Rockets, and their song Earth, Sun, Moon. "I can be the sun And I can be much fun I could shine all over you I'm crying to We are the kings Of nothing at all We, the rich beggars That's our role But we can shine all over you And we will shine To get through to you YOU Earth, Sun, Moon" Here's the cover of their 1998 album called Lift.
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Post by theanswer on Mar 20, 2009 14:10:11 GMT -5
A couple of things jumped out at me while reading the above about Parsons.
First: "Apparently noting that Antichrist is only a few letters away from anarchist the manifesto that follows is in large part an exhortation to "do what thou wilt" in most things bodily-fluid-drenched, economic and/or political. The goal of all these efforts, according to Metzger, was to bring on the Apocalypse, since in theory things can only get better from there." This made me think about the lyrics to Anarchy In the U.K., by a band (Sex Pistols) who I've always thought were tools of the elite. In fact, I need to make some time to do some investigation into Malcolm McLaren. This might be the most thelemic song ever written..."I am an antichrist I am an anarchist Dont know what I want but I know how to get it I wanna destroy the passer by cos I
I wanna be Anarchy!
No dog's body
Anarchy for the U.K Its coming sometime and maybe I give a wrong time stop a traffic line Your future dream is a shopping scheme cos I
I wanna be Anarchy!
In the city
How many ways to get what you want? I use the best - I use the rest I use the enemy I use anarchy
'Cos I
I wanna be Anarchy!
The only way to be!
Is this the M.P.L.A Or is this the U.D.A Or is this the I.R.A I thought it was the U.K. Or just Another Country Another council tenancy
I wanna be an anarchist Oh what a name Get pissed - destroy!" The other part of the above that I found very interesting is that Parsons' biography is called Love and Rockets [/b][/color]. This reminded me of the band called Love and Rockets, and their song Earth, Sun, Moon. "I can be the sun And I can be much fun I could shine all over you I'm crying to We are the kings Of nothing at all We, the rich beggars That's our role But we can shine all over you And we will shine To get through to you YOU Earth, Sun, Moon" Here's the cover of their 1998 album called Lift.[/quote] Interesting stuff...thanks for the info... It's possible, now that I think about it, that he is saying "Malcolm Mclaren" (although I hear Lambert and don't hear anything similar to McClaren) in the soundclip earlier. Johnny Rotten is well known for wearing his "I hate Pink Floyd" t-shirt Hey Hey My My...rock n roll will never die...there's more to the picture than meets the eye...hey hey my my en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_Pistols#Johnny_Rotten_joins_the_bandI'm familiar with Megadeth's version of the song you mentioned (So Far So Good So What) Pink Floyd The Wall was released in 1979 4 years after the t-shirt incident, which makes me wonder about this: screenshot of the "Nuremburg Rally" (In The Flesh) from the film "The Wall" This also brings us back to where I first began hearing my first name...on Dark Side Of The Moon...(more later...this all ties together and is connected, methinks, to The Mothman... the enigma of Point Pleasant West Virginia)
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Post by puzzled on Mar 20, 2009 14:40:02 GMT -5
Ok, you surprised me by managing to include the Mothman story!! Now I really can't wait! ;D ;D
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Post by theanswer on Mar 20, 2009 14:53:42 GMT -5
Ok, you surprised me by managing to include the Mothman story!! Now I really can't wait! ;D ;D You don't know how relieved I am to hear that. puzzled! My experience through most of my research (with other Pink Floyd fans on enigma forums) has been somewhat antagonistic (I guess because I was saying their favorite band was associated with evil, not good) Have you seen the movie "The Mothman Prophecies" starring Richard Gere? Interestingly, it was filmed in Pennsylvania...
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Post by theanswer on Mar 20, 2009 16:44:39 GMT -5
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Post by puzzled on Mar 20, 2009 17:01:34 GMT -5
Ok, you surprised me by managing to include the Mothman story!! Now I really can't wait! ;D ;D You don't know how relieved I am to hear that. puzzled! My experience through most of my research (with other Pink Floyd fans on enigma forums) has been somewhat antagonistic (I guess because I was saying their favorite band was associated with evil, not good) Have you seen the movie "The Mothman Prophecies" starring Richard Gere? Interestingly, it was filmed in Pennsylvania... I have seen the movie several times, and read the book. The "real" version was slightly different than the movie represented, but still very strange. We're in the same boat then, Mr. Answerman. I am even seeing negative comments about my contributions here elsewhere on the internet. Funny thing - they seem to think that postings by us crazy folks somehow prohibits the postings of their more meaningful information? I don't think that is the case - if they want to see other information being added, then why don't they do it? I don't think it's our job. So hey you guys - if you're sick of hearing about satanists and aliens and ancient Egyptians, get to researching!
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Post by puzzled on Mar 20, 2009 17:20:09 GMT -5
I listened to the clips, but my untrained ear isn't hearing a 'Malcom' in there. Maybe Maxim...? The "knows/known us" sounds fairly clear to me. However, I do recognize that hearing in a different medium does take some practice. Years ago I listened to some clips of a parakeet talking, or so the guy said. He was trying to explain that his birds had this incredibly full social life, and they used english mixed-in with their chirping to describe rather abstract thoughts. It took me a long time of listening to them and not hearing anything that sounded like language, until I finally realized I wasn't hearing the words because they were spoken so fast. They are really high-pitched and the words are strung together mixed into the middle of their normal vocalizations. Once my ear knew what to listen for, I then observed my friend's parakeet doing the same thing - usually repeating the things she heard the most, like my friend yelling at her dog. Anyway...all that to say that even though I feel obligated to give my own perception, I realize that it isn't an educated or practiced one. Even reverse speech and baskmasking is lost on me, but I appreciate that some people feel they are deciphering patterns. It would be an awesome skill, as knowing how to tell when someone is lying to you has to be the most needed human skill of all.
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Post by theanswer on Mar 20, 2009 17:27:09 GMT -5
You don't know how relieved I am to hear that. puzzled! My experience through most of my research (with other Pink Floyd fans on enigma forums) has been somewhat antagonistic (I guess because I was saying their favorite band was associated with evil, not good) Have you seen the movie "The Mothman Prophecies" starring Richard Gere? Interestingly, it was filmed in Pennsylvania... I have seen the movie several times, and read the book. The "real" version was slightly different than the movie represented, but still very strange. We're in the same boat then, Mr. Answerman. I am even seeing negative comments about my contributions here elsewhere on the internet. Funny thing - they seem to think that postings by us crazy folks somehow prohibits the postings of their more meaningful information? I don't think that is the case - if they want to see other information being added, then why don't they do it? I don't think it's our job. So hey you guys - if you're sick of hearing about satanists and aliens and ancient Egyptians, get to researching!
ha ha! you go get 'em, girl! that's the spirit! I have to say...I liked the book better than the movie...but... There IS the sound of a BELL in the movie at a place that I had discovered something rather interesting concerning the phrase "I Hate Pink Floyd" (later) AND some people (including me) had noticed how similar Roger Waters began looking like Richard Gere (hairstyles, mostly)
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Post by puzzled on Mar 20, 2009 17:37:14 GMT -5
Interesting....can you give a general location of the scene in the movie?
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Post by theanswer on Mar 20, 2009 18:04:29 GMT -5
I listened to the clips, but my untrained ear isn't hearing a 'Malcom' in there. Maybe Maxim...? The "knows/known us" sounds fairly clear to me. However, I do recognize that hearing in a different medium does take some practice. Years ago I listened to some clips of a parakeet talking, or so the guy said. He was trying to explain that his birds had this incredibly full social life, and they used english mixed-in with their chirping to describe rather abstract thoughts. It took me a long time of listening to them and not hearing anything that sounded like language, until I finally realized I wasn't hearing the words because they were spoken so fast. They are really high-pitched and the words are strung together mixed into the middle of their normal vocalizations. Once my ear knew what to listen for, I then observed my friend's parakeet doing the same thing - usually repeating the things she heard the most, like my friend yelling at her dog. Anyway...all that to say that even though I feel obligated to give my own perception, I realize that it isn't an educated or practiced one. Even reverse speech and baskmasking is lost on me, but I appreciate that some people feel they are deciphering patterns. It would be an awesome skill, as knowing how to tell when someone is lying to you has to be the most needed human skill of all. Yes, I understand completely. I have listened to most of them in a loop (you can set Windows media player to repeat the soundclip) and also headphones. I have discovered also that listening at different volumes can enhance or inhibit the ability to hear certain things. ************************************ Richard Gere = Roger Waters? LOL images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&rls=GWYA%2CGWYA%3A2008-49%2CGWYA%3Aen&um=1&sa=3&q=%22Richard+Gere%22+%22Roger+Waters%22I'm working on showing you what I found in the Mothman movie...you might not hear what I hear. There's a dog in it that says "f--- you" in the soundclip! I also have another Satellite image to show...pointing to Point Pleasant...and more soundclips in "Waiting For The Worms"...it mentions Gallipolis, I think I was born and raised in Cabell County WV about 30 miles south of P.P. which is in..."Mason" County Moth Man? mmddll.home.att.net/DSOTM/MM.jpg
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Post by theanswer on Mar 20, 2009 18:20:49 GMT -5
Interesting....can you give a general location of the scene in the movie? ad1984.home.att.net/mothman/mothman.htmIt's when he is sitting on the park bench in the snow. I can't remember if it was his visit to Chicago or D.C. Anyway, what I hear is synonymous with the description John Keel gives of the messages by the MIB's, olive skinned men, and Indrid Cold in his book The Mothman Prophecies (the messages make little sense) the last phrase in that link should sound like "can't get up here'd if ya don't trust Malcolm" when played in a loop (here'd is pronounced like a rolling tongue sound...more like "hidder") EDIT: also, in the first clip, the loud voice is probably saying "Here boy" instead of "Floyd", but there is a whixpering voice right there saying "Pink Floyd" I told you all this was going to be wierd!
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Post by theanswer on Mar 20, 2009 18:32:25 GMT -5
I didn't mention it in the webpage I made (thrown together quickly a few of years ago) but you need to keep in mind the transcript I made is spoken really fast in the sounclips, so train your mind to think fast when listening...meanwhile I might dig out my DVD and redo this and try to make a better soundclip and slow it down, if need be.
Those soundclips are made with noise reduction from a program I had on a now defunct computer system...
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Post by puzzled on Mar 20, 2009 19:29:14 GMT -5
Since I appear to be the only one participating, don't go to the extra trouble on my account. If anyone else is lurking, any opinions?
Have you arrived at a final conclusion regarding all of this, or are you still in the clues-gathering mode?
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Post by theanswer on Mar 20, 2009 19:45:30 GMT -5
Interesting....can you give a general location of the scene in the movie? I got my DVD out and it's at 15:40 right after he found out his wife died from a brain tumor ( Brain Damage) at the hospital...the chapter is titled "You Didn't See It?" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mothman_Prophecies_(film)
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Post by theanswer on Mar 20, 2009 20:48:58 GMT -5
Since I appear to be the only one participating, don't go to the extra trouble on my account. If anyone else is lurking, any opinions? Have you arrived at a final conclusion regarding all of this, or are you still in the clues-gathering mode? I guess somewhere in between. Alot of this is what I have already gathered.
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Post by puzzled on Mar 20, 2009 21:32:32 GMT -5
So do you see what the end plan is? Why would these people invest so much time and planning into such an obscure message, across decades (or longer?) and multiple mediums?
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Post by theanswer on Mar 20, 2009 21:36:52 GMT -5
whether anyone's interested or not...satellite image (overlayed) centered on where I was born (address blacked out) two arrows at top is where Point Pleasant is...arrow below that is Huntington WV. The images are from Google Earth (don't know where the original is) Frank Frazetta depiction mothman statue in PP, WV it was sighted exactly 13 months from November 15th 1966 to December 15th 1967 (7 days after the release of The Rolling Stones-Their Satanic Majesties Request)
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Post by puzzled on Mar 20, 2009 21:47:48 GMT -5
That certainly does put it smack-dab into the middle of our twilight zone time period.
I keep wondering what happened in 1966 to bring all this about? Crowleyites seems too simplistic of an answer to me, but then I am not versed in the realities of goetian evokations.
Is it possible that just a handful of people put our entire planet in jeopardy?
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Post by puzzled on Mar 20, 2009 22:06:51 GMT -5
btw Answerman - I love the satellite photos, although the imagery is so subtle, I hope you can understand why people would be reticent to accept that part as significant. I think when we are researching something and we are so in tune with it, the synchronicities start to build for us, but others haven't walked the same path to take in every bit of information along the line, so it gets difficult to communicate such a large idea (as I'm sure you are finding out ) I am not using my own computer as mine crashed (ugh), so I can't enlarge the area, but on your pp photo of the moth, in the area of the eye, in the middle of the area where you have the circle in the center of the eye - it looks like a man-shaped guy with a face? (His face would be enclosed within the red circle, body and feet below) Can you look closer at that area and let me know? If you don't have the software, don't worry about it - just curious. Thanks.
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Post by theanswer on Mar 20, 2009 22:41:54 GMT -5
btw Answerman - I love the satellite photos, although the imagery is so subtle, I hope you can understand why people would be reticent to accept that part as significant. I think when we are researching something and we are so in tune with it, the synchronicities start to build for us, but others haven't walked the same path to take in every bit of information along the line, so it gets difficult to communicate such a large idea (as I'm sure you are finding out ) I am not using my own computer as mine crashed (ugh), so I can't enlarge the area, but on your pp photo of the moth, in the area of the eye, in the middle of the area where you have the circle in the center of the eye - it looks like a man-shaped guy with a face? (His face would be enclosed within the red circle, body and feet below) Can you look closer at that area and let me know? If you don't have the software, don't worry about it - just curious. Thanks. you're welcome...I'll see what I can do. It may take some time. There are other things as I zoom closer into Huntington WV (centered on my house where I grew up) which I haven't uploaded yet.
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Post by theanswer on Mar 20, 2009 23:33:06 GMT -5
That certainly does put it smack-dab into the middle of our twilight zone time period. I keep wondering what happened in 1966 to bring all this about? Crowleyites seems too simplistic of an answer to me, but then I am not versed in the realities of goetian evokations. Is it possible that just a handful of people put our entire planet in jeopardy? well, I'll tell you what I found out doing bible study using the Hebrew Lexicon The word "Lucifer" in Isaiah chapter 14 verse 12 is Strong's concordance number 1966 www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=01966the root word is number 1984 Halal (this is where the word Halelujah comes from also, meaning "Praise Yah" Yah being short for Yahweh=YHWH) www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=01984of course, they are just index numbers, not dates or years...but 1966 was around the time of the Nasa moon landings...and Isaiah talks about Lucifer setting his throne above the clouds... and the Hebrew word NASA means "lift up"www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=05375en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing#Unmanned_landings
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Post by puzzled on Mar 21, 2009 0:15:53 GMT -5
Was the 1984 inclusion just another example, or did you include the Halal for a reason? I didn't understand the connection?
The full definition at your link is even juicier:
to lift, bear up, carry, take
1. (Qal) 1. to lift, lift up 2. to bear, carry, support, sustain, endure 3. to take, take away, carry off, forgive 2. (Niphal) 1. to be lifted up, be exalted 2. to lift oneself up, rise up 3. to be borne, be carried 4. to be taken away, be carried off, be swept away 3. (Piel) 1. to lift up, exalt, support, aid, assist 2. to desire, long (fig.) 3. to carry, bear continuously 4. to take, take away 4. (Hithpael) to lift oneself up, exalt oneself 5. (Hiphil) 1. to cause one to bear (iniquity) 2. to cause to bring, have brought
Anybody speak Enochian? Probably some insight in that translation as well.
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Post by theanswer on Mar 21, 2009 1:32:43 GMT -5
Was the 1984 inclusion just another example, or did you include the Halal for a reason? I didn't understand the connection? sorry puzzled...I've got so much going on in this nutshell of mine it's hard to explain everything I guess there was sort of an Orwellian (Nineteen Eighty-Four) connection there...and the drawing (shown earlier) that I did in 1984 (which I have yet to explain) Doing a little bit of research just now, I came across this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Impact_Demonstrationsome conspiricists believe it's possible that 9/11/01 was done by remote control, by rogue elements within our own government agencies...it IS very possible, considering the link above.
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Post by puzzled on Mar 21, 2009 1:43:49 GMT -5
Hey, check me out! I managed to trace the image I was referring to. I also did an extra experiment of outlining the entire image my eye was picking up, just for fun.
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