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Post by fourthousandholes on Jul 18, 2007 13:09:13 GMT -5
gar wrote: "well, David Gilmour quite often plays with Faul (check the Cavern Club dvd for instance) so my guess is that he won't come forward with anything..."
It appears to me that everything from "Dark Side of the Moon" on, by Pink Floyd, and David Gilmour's "On An Island" as well, are interspersed with PID/PWR clues. He may never come out and say, in a straight-forward way, what he knows, but he sure as heck has encoded it into his work.
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Post by mommybird on Jul 18, 2007 13:41:26 GMT -5
That's a shame. I truly wish that a group of insiders would grow a pair & end this travesty once & for all !
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Post by Valis on Jul 18, 2007 20:05:31 GMT -5
A name I've seen floating around connected with the Publius Enigma mystery is Douglas Adams. The writer of The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. -I never read the books , and only knew the answer so far, but I've seen the movie of it this weekend. And it was great.
The most obvious stand out thing to me was the computer DEEP THOUGHT, it was the golden capstone on a flattened pyramid.
But I found some more Douglas was: -friends with the Monty Python crew since the early 70s -still friends with David Gilmour (very suspicious in my book) -McCartney fan and also attended his Rockandroll gig in the Cavern in 99 -Had musicschool with Wix , McCartney's live keyboardist since 89 -produced Robbie McIntosh solo CD (McCartney band 89-93) -rumoured to be involved with the Pink Floyd-Publius Enigma mystery in 94
What was the question again?
All Love Jan
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 18, 2007 20:11:10 GMT -5
Pink Floyd
Pinked Floy
Finked Ploy
Zap!
-j
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Post by arod777 on Sept 21, 2007 21:32:18 GMT -5
"SNIWEEGCM" MCGEE WINS Hello to all. I have studied the enigma for over 14 years (Yes I knew of an enigma before Publius announced it) and perhaps I can offer some help. This forum has attracted my attention becasue a few of you have helped me to further verify some of my theories regarding the enigma. let me first state that i beleive the enigma is much bigger than the Beatles and Pink Floyd. they are merely players in the game. other musicians have also tried to express the enigma such as Led Zepplin, Boston, Mozart, Tool, Nine Inch Nails, Alan Parsons Project, and hundreds of others. Certain people who have been caught exposing too much of the enigma have been dealt with, which is why they cannot just "come forward" with the answers. Further more even if they did just come out and tell you, you probably would't beleive them. It's almost something you have to experience for yourself. John Lennon, Stanley Kubrick, Mozart, Douglass Adams, Steve O'Rourke (PF's old manager and possible Publius Suspect) are only a few artists among the dead. The final publius post referenced above eludes to an enigmatist by the name of Craig Mcgee who posted a solution to the enigma and received this "It is finished" response. However this Publius post came after the anonymous server the original Publius was posting from was shut down do to a court order that had something to do with Scientologists being slandered. (Please note this is a clue and a connection to the esoteric work Aleister Crowley partook in via L. Ron Hubbard who was also an active occultist and frined of Crowley) Craig as well as others felt very strongly that since this did not come from the same anonymous server as the original Publius posts that this was not an authentic Publius post and thus the enigma is still unsolved... this is why he did not want his name associated with this post. If you research the name "Craig Mcgee" you will find his "solution post" and you will find it to be very vague. The notion that the enigma is still unsolved is further substantiated with the interview Nick Mason (the drummer of PF) did a few years back. In it he states specifically that the enigma has never been solved. This thread has provided me with what I beleive two valuable clues. First the connection to Arthur C. Clarks story "Childhoods end" which is also consequently the name of a PF song, and also the connection of the White Album alternative cover to the picture in TDB booklet on the song "Coming back To Life". You see, in my research I have come across numerous persons who have claimed inside knowledge of the enigma. These people have verified to me with predictions (Like the PF reunion before it happened) that they indeed possess some inner knowledge of what is taking place currently with the enigma and the situation on our planet. One person was giving me clues that the enigma is somehow connected to Charles Manson and the beatles. Some sources claim Charlie was born on Novemebr 11th (11:11) while others claim it was actually 11/12... who knows for sure. it has also been pointed out to me that there is a Helter Skelter (A british spiral slide for kids) in the Shine On You Crazy Diamond Video. You can view it yourself on You Tube. I have found many connections with the Publius Enigma to the beatles, and your discovery here adds further credibility to my findings. Somehow or another my findings keep leading me back to the Process Church of the Final Judgment. The Beatles as well as many other rock bands including PF have had run ins with these people. They are an offshoot of Scientology which is an offshoot of the teachings of Aleister Crowley. I also keep coming back to the film maker Roman Polanski. He was the husband of Sharon Tate who was murdered by the Manson Family. Roman directed the film "Rosemary's Baby" which revolves around the birth of the Anti-Christ. Incidently the place where this movie was filmed was also the place where John Lennon was murdered by Mark David Chapmen. an interesting connection is that both Mark David Chapmen as well as Charlie Manson claimed to be getting messages from the media. Publius also claimed there was a message to be gathered from PF's media. Another person who was linked to the Process Church was David Burkowits AKA the Son of Sam. He also claimed to be receiving strange messages. Only a short time after Sharon Tate was murdered along tih her unborn baby who was to be named "Paul" did the Detroit radio DJ announce that "Paul was dead"... a strange connection indeed. The targets in the eyes of the division Bell Head (In my opinion) are indeed representative of the sun but in an esoteric fashion. They also represent the All Seeing Eye as well as the flame between the horns of Baphomet (an ancient symbol linked to satanic philosophy as well as to freemasonry and the knights templar) This same person who directed me to begin studying the Beatles and Manson also told me that on the back of ummaguma (a PF album) there is an inverted pentagram hidden in the artwork. When I overlayed the picture of the inverted pentagram I had a perfect match, and the flame between the horns lined up perfectly with the target (the same target found in the eyes of the Divison Bell Heads) this find was verified further when I saw the movie Lord of the Rings. A simple background study will reveal that J.R Tokken was heavily involed in the occult and it influenced most of his writings. In the movie you see the tower which looks like two devil horns at the top. In between the horns you see the flame, and in the flame you will find the All Seeing Eye. This symbol can also be found on the top of the Taj Mah Hall in India lending credibility to this symbolism. This link to my thread illustrates exactly what I am trying to convey. This is the back of UmmaGumma (Notice the target) www.rockul.info/photo/PinkFloyd/z-ummagummalive.jpgThis is the Satanic Symbol (Notice the Flame) www.conspiration.cc/sujets/religion/satan_baphomet_250.jpghere they are put together img213.imageshack.us/img213/9753/ummagummabaph2ov0.jpgHere is another picture of Baphomet overlayed. img213.imageshack.us/img213/128/ummabaph1uv5.jpgnow remember the targets are used for EYES on The Division Bell Cover. Here is the Lord of the Rings and the Taj Mahal comparison www.holoscience.com/news/img/Dark_tower2.jpgThis can all be directly linked to the sun becasue the sun is considered the firey eye in the sky by the egyptians which is where much of this knowledge comes from, though it was originated much earlier by "the gods" who were some sort of advanced intelligence that visited earth thousands of years ago. There is so much to this enigma and I don't have time to go into it all, but in short this all links up to anceint knowledge passed onto mankind by these visitors, and ultimately it connects to the mayan end date of the Winter Solstice Dec 2012 at exactly 11:11 universal time, in which our Sun, our Earth, and Pluto will be in Alignment with the center of our Galaxy. the center of our Galaxy in almost all ancient religeons is beleived to be the source of consciousness and in turn the source of existence. The Swastika is actually an ancient Tibetan Symbol and variation representing the Center and variations of it can be found all throughout the world. www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/vril07_04.gifread this as well www.om-page.de/indexE.htmlThis date was so important to the ancients they built huge magalithic stone clandars to mark this precise moment in time so that mankind would never forget the significance of this day. I would be happy to answer any questions I can to anybody who is interested. Please bear with me time wise, as I have suffered a great tragedy in my life and i am currently pressed for time. peace and thanks for your time and the help. -anthony
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Post by iameye on Sept 21, 2007 21:43:30 GMT -5
welcome aboard, matey...oh, wait. That was yesterday.
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Post by ccinri on Sept 21, 2007 22:55:51 GMT -5
yo ho ho ...oh...i'll just retire to the crow's nest....welcome and mind the plank!
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Post by plastic paul on Sept 22, 2007 2:02:47 GMT -5
Nice post, a most interesting read.
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Post by mindgames on Sept 22, 2007 6:53:04 GMT -5
Drooling with laughter as I piss my pants! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- what's this? "A Pink Floyd tribute by the PINK pepperpot FLOYD band"? WHAT? Are you kidding? What is this tribute? I am on pins and needles waiting to hear about this. -j Well don't get all excited. I was jest kidding. I am the sucker that got born during my minute... -j
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Post by B on Sept 22, 2007 11:00:14 GMT -5
A name I've seen floating around connected with the Publius Enigma mystery is Douglas Adams. The writer of The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. -I never read the books , and only knew the answer so far, but I've seen the movie of it this weekend. And it was great. The most obvious stand out thing to me was the computer DEEP THOUGHT, it was the golden capstone on a flattened pyramid. But I found some more Douglas was: -friends with the Monty Python crew since the early 70s -still friends with David Gilmour (very suspicious in my book) -McCartney fan and also attended his Rockandroll gig in the Cavern in 99 -Had musicschool with Wix , McCartney's live keyboardist since 89 -produced Robbie McIntosh solo CD (McCartney band 89-93) -rumoured to be involved with the Pink Floyd-Publius Enigma mystery in 94 What was the question again? All Love Jan Fascinating. I'm glad you posted that, Valis. I'll be investigating... arod777 - Interesting post. It seems to me that one of the symbols shown on the balloons in the "High Hopes" video * (from 'The Division Bell') may be the "black hole" referenced at the bottom of "the OM page" here: www.om-page.de/indexE.htmlThanks for posting that. I'll have more to say soon. * www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ioavsW0tgI
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Post by TotalInformation on Sept 22, 2007 19:05:52 GMT -5
That also puts Gilmour on the list of likely Faul /PAUL MCCARTNEY ghostwriters/collaborators
Back to the Egg anyone?
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Post by plastic paul on Sept 23, 2007 16:13:35 GMT -5
Does anyone know whether the Division Bell has been re-released in the UK?
I ask because I only know of the album through this thread and last week when I walked into HMV, there it was, two shelf-fulls of the thing.
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Post by Valis on Sept 24, 2007 6:32:21 GMT -5
David Gilmour CBE (Commander of the Order of the British Empire)
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Post by B on Sept 24, 2007 9:41:24 GMT -5
So he's the king now, right? ;D
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Post by mommybird on Sept 24, 2007 12:54:38 GMT -5
Great thread, thanks everyone for all the hard work. A very interesting read.
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Post by mystery tour on Sept 27, 2007 20:04:37 GMT -5
Released on 9/11: "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" Deluxe Limited edition with original Barrett mono mix, the Norman Smith stereo mix, and a third CD of the singles of that period. Included is a notebook of Barrett notes and photos. The regular Deluxe edition removes the singles CD and the notebook and has a different release date. Posted because of where and when it was recorded and the irony of the drum date. Also, in the day there was a SB Assassination Theory having SB dosed by TPTB (he did n fact disappear for three days and returned "different"). So possible reference to Intelligencia.
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Post by mommybird on Sept 28, 2007 9:26:04 GMT -5
I can't get that link to work. It keeps hanging up my computer.
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Post by B on Sept 28, 2007 10:42:16 GMT -5
It's an Amazon.com sale of a special edition of the Pink Floyd album "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" with bonus tracks.
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Post by mommybird on Sept 28, 2007 14:08:54 GMT -5
Thank you, LetterB. ;D
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Post by mystery tour on Sept 28, 2007 16:16:34 GMT -5
Thanks, LetterB. I've gone back and removed the link as I wouldn't want anyone's computer to get hung up...
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Post by plastic paul on Sept 28, 2007 20:02:29 GMT -5
Does anyone know whether the Division Bell has been re-released in the UK? I ask because I only know of the album through this thread and last week when I walked into HMV, there it was, two shelf-fulls of the thing. Sorry but I am interested to know....
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Post by B on Sept 28, 2007 20:17:08 GMT -5
Maybe the clerk at HMV would know; I certainly don't.
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Post by mystery tour on Sept 29, 2007 0:28:30 GMT -5
Rick: I seem to remember, I think ’m sure I heard Day In Life going on while we were doing our sessions which is one of my favourite tracks by The Beatles and we certainly … and I know Paul McCartney would pop into our studio … only Paul
And I’m not sure which track it was, what was the name … er, Lily?
Guy: No, Rita.
Rick: Rita! Lovely Rita! I think they were doing that when we went in. And they were all very nice and er John Lennon, he was my hero, even then, as was Syd’s actually and he was very kind of cool, but Paul McCartney was extremely nice and would come back into our studio and er … so it was pretty amazing that we were doing our first album and I think the Beatles were possibly creating one of their best albums of all time."
Rick Wright, August 2007
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Post by arod777 on Sept 29, 2007 18:20:34 GMT -5
Greetings friends. Once again I must apologize for my absence, as I stated previously I have been very pressed for time do to personal circumstances. A few of you have written me PM's and I will follow up with you as soon as I get a chance to gather my thoughts. In my first post I promised a link to a thread I have been working on in alt.music.pink-floyd I forgot to put it into the first post (oops so here it is. It is a long thread with alot of skeptics posting alot of garbage, but if you have a chance I highly suggest reading it becasue it pertains exactly to what you are working on in this forum. I would suggest skipping through the posts that were not made by me... the bulk of them have no significance, however there are a few gems who had chosen to speak up. But if you stick to my posts (a_rod_777) and read them with an open mind you will most certainly gain a bit more insight into what exactly is happening here. Please not that I am a researcher just like you and the information I put forth is simply what I have discovered on my journey. None of my opinions are set in stone and all of them are up for debate (provided the argument is based in facts and is compelling enough to consider). Hopefully this helps you all. Above all, please remember, EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING you have been taught in your lifetime NEEDS TO BE QUESTIONED. You must learn to think for yourself and do your own research. no one can tell you your answer, simply becasue you are the only one who can understand it. Nothing is as the system has presented to you. Nothing you have learned is truly the way it is. Nothing you perceive exists outside of your own perception. I guess if anybody will understand this statement it would be you all. >>>NOTHING IS REAL<<< groups.google.com/group/alt.music.pink-floyd/browse_thread/thread/4826305ac1559fb3/cfcd682a662dfed3peace -ant EDIT: I have decided to edit this post becasue I actually went through the entire thread and realized that you may not see how much of it has anything to do with the enigma. Basically the entire thread deals with a secret which has been hidden from mankind for a very long time by those who maintin rule over civilization. This secret is that YOU HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER YOUR ENTIRE REALITY. But for the most part, external sources such as the media, institutions, and governments control your thoughts, emotions and actions, and thus control your reality. The solution to the enigma is to free your self from these bondages and realize the true potential you have within your being. The potential to literally manifest any reality you want. Einstein suggested that if we were to use 100% of our minds then we would become pure energy or basically one with God. People in the past such as the Buddha, Jesus, Krishna, etc... were rumoured to have supernatural abilities. I beleive this is do to the fact that they began utilizing more of their mind power so to speak. Physicists have come to the conclusion that reality only exists because we perceive it, therefore the whole of reality is not taking place outside of us, but on the contrary, within us. By mastering that which is within us we can master the illusion of those circumstances which seemingly take place without us. So basically the thread I have put forth, proposes evidence supporting this theory which I beleive is a key secret that the powers that be do not want you to know about yourself. And this secret is at the heart of not only the "Paul is Dead" mystery, but the entire work of the Beatles, as well as the "Publius Enigma" and the entire work of the Pink Floyd. As well as many many other musicians, painters, filmakers, and literists. So, there is alot of things to be skipped over in this thread as it is pretty redundant in trying to express this truth. But try to at least click on the links in my posts. Also you might find the part about Hitler and the "Black Sun Society" interesting. After reviewing this thread I am begining to realize that I may want to create a new thread with strictly enigma research and evidence compiled into a fluid coherent archive. I also have just noticed that the majority of my research regarding the enigma isn't even in this thread as I previously thought, and I would very much like to make it public, I fell many of you may benefit form it as well as give me insight into further clues. But nevertheless if you want to read this entire thread I would be most interested in your feedback. in the meantime I will begin work on a new thread which offers factual researchable clues that pertain more to the enigma than to the philosophical sense of it all. I reposted the link in this edit so that you will begin the thread at the last page instead of the first. Somehow I feel that you may be more inclined to read more of it this way, as the information that is more pertinent to your reseach is mainly twards the end. Thanks to JO JO for being a brave soul and offering to skim through it. I'm not sure how far you made it but hopefully you gained something from it. 80% of my finding are not even posted in this thread, so my apologies if it seemed completely unrelated to you. I will get you more of my findings that you may find a little more interesting very soon.
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Post by JoJo on Sept 29, 2007 18:45:33 GMT -5
Thank you arod777, it will make good reading for later on tonight. I dig it. I'm a long time reader of Usenet discussion groups, so I know you have to separate the wheat from the chaff. Unless you start a moderated group, there is zero moderation..
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