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Post by B on Feb 2, 2009 19:02:24 GMT -5
Um...I've never been able to do Rubic's Cubes, much less follow interstellar galactic geophysical word puzzles where LWM28IF actually equates to profoundly meaningful phraseology. So, for us who think LSMFT means "Lucky Strike means fine tobacco", could you kind of do a little summary here, about what you think, personally? I mean, I have the shovel in hand, ready to dig, but I don't know whether I'm supposed to dig in Phily, Pittsburgh, Punxatawney, or where Route 6 meets with US 66 in Wellsboro, but now you're saying Wheeling?! I appreciate that you are a genius, or a mad man, but even Iameye isn't as hard to follow. Which way ya goin', Billy? Every year is getting shorter; Never seem to find the time. Plans that either come to naught, or half a post of scribbled lines. Hanging on in quiet desperation is the Letter B way... The time is gone, this post is over; Thought I'd something more to say....
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Post by iameye on Feb 2, 2009 19:20:06 GMT -5
I appreciate that you are a genius, or a mad man, but even Iameye isn't as hard to follow. Which way ya goin', Billy?
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Post by theanswer on Feb 2, 2009 21:01:13 GMT -5
Mind Over Matter and "Hipgnosis"
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Post by theanswer on Feb 2, 2009 21:06:07 GMT -5
hey guys...sorry, I didn't see your responses....I had given in to the idea that everyone had given up on me, LOL
LMW28IF, if it has anything to do with Abbey Road clues (and not just an arbitrary license plate number) fits in with the atbash cipher and the image I included to illustrate my point, for instance:
(see next post...)
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Post by theanswer on Feb 2, 2009 21:24:48 GMT -5
.....ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ --> <--ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA (if you put the letters in a circle, as in a clock, it would read forward (top half) then backward (Bottom half) These are both images (cropped) from two versions of the Abbey Road cover...I discovered that they are #6 and #5 from the photo shoot on August 8, 1969 Look at the images the same way as the alphabet 26 divided by 4(beatles) = 6.5 imagine they are moving in a circle.... The VW beetle is "round" (VW is also backwards WV) the "ATBASH" of ...LMW (28)IF is ...OND (28)RU ROUND (as in "Round and Around") it all has to do with "Revolution" (wheels, circles, etc) make sense? It is Tavistock psy-ops (and spiritual subversion by Satanic powers) That's the best way I can explain it. The place in Pennsylvania is connected because of the 666 encoded, and it is related to the Mason Dixon Line in another way that is too complicated to explain at this point, unless you understand the rest of it...this nation is the victim of a carefully "orchestrated" coup)
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Post by theanswer on Feb 2, 2009 21:32:49 GMT -5
P.S.
sorry, but I would not encourage anyone to go digging around anywhere, because I don't think it is about finding buried treasure. It's about the "surrogate band" finding out "where their fans really stand" (Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is a "surrogate band" just like in the movie and album "The Wall")
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Post by theanswer on Feb 2, 2009 21:51:41 GMT -5
ATBASH ciphertwighlightzone.home.att.net/christian_messageboard/atbash_1.htmType (or copy and paste) the following and click the button: LMW 28IF the 2 and 8 could mean "Binary"(2) and "Octal"(8) as discussed earlier on MAROONED (probably just a coincidence though, unless it is from highly intelligent spiritual entities beyond our comprehension)
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Post by theanswer on Feb 2, 2009 23:24:43 GMT -5
Just another way to prove my point about "Round and Around": Yet Another Movie / Round and Around A New Machine Terminal Frost A New Machine Sorrow LMW 28 IFFILMnatas-seattle.org/National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences
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Post by B on Feb 2, 2009 23:31:43 GMT -5
theanswer wrote: "...unless it is from highly intelligent spiritual entities beyond our comprehension)" The church, or what it represents, is somewhat the focus on the Division Bell cover: Life, death, the significance of that cycle, being "spoken of" in the album. (Being "communicated".) And perhaps, this particular church! Let us consider. (More to come)
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Post by B on Feb 2, 2009 23:43:28 GMT -5
Here is a picture from above the tower of Cathedral Ely: www.cathedral.ely.anglican.org/media_centre/gallery/enlarge.html?group=26;file=Octagon%202.JPG"Far away across the field The tolling of the iron bell Calls the faithful to their knees To hear the softly spoken magic spells."The uppermost part of this tower is called " the lantern" : night time view: www.cathedral.ely.anglican.org/media_centre/gallery/enlarge.html?group=26;file=The%20Lantern.JPGOne could think of it as an inland light house. Interestingly, on the Rolling Stones album "Their satanic Majesties Request", there is a song called "The Lantern". Theanswer has pointed out that "Their satanic Majesties" is part of a seemingly related series of album releases involving Pink Floyd, The Beatles, and The Rolling Stones. THE LANTERN (Jagger/Richards) hear it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJPdIiLRh0s (not sung by the Stones in this version)We, on our present life, Knew that the stars were right. That if you are the first to go, You'll leave a sign to let me know, Tell me so. Please, carry the Lantern lights. You crossed the sea of night, Free from the spell of fright. Your cloak it is a spirit shroud. You'll wake me in my sleeping hours, Like a cloud. So, please, carry the Lantern high. Me, in my sorry plight, You waiting ev'ry night. My face it turns a deathly pale, You're talking to me, through your veil, I hear you wail. So, please carry the Lantern light. The servants sleep, The doors are barred. You hear the stopping of my heart-we never part. So, please carry the Lantern high. ------------------
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Post by theanswer on Feb 3, 2009 0:17:40 GMT -5
Oratory—or hypnotic induction? October 25th, 2008 Is Barack Obama a brilliant orator, captivating millions through his eloquence? Or is he deliberately using the techniques of neurolinguistic programming (NLP), a covert form of hypnosis developed by Milton Erickson, M.D.? A fundamental tool of “conversational hypnosis” is pacing and leading—a way for the hypnotist to bypass the listener’s critical faculty by associating repeated statements that are unquestionably accurate with the message he wants to convey. In his Denver acceptance speech, Obama used the phrases “that’s why I stand here tonight,” “now is the time,” and “this moment” 14 times. Paces are connected to the lead by words such as “and,” “as,” “because,” or “that is why.” For example, “we need change” (who could disagree?)…and…that is why I will be your next President.” Techniques of trance induction include extra slow speech, rhythm, tonalities, vagueness, visual imagery, metaphor, and raising of emotion. Hypnotists often have patients count. In a speech after the primaries closed, Obama said: “Sixteen months have passed (paused)…Thousands (pause) of miles…(pause)…Millions of voices….” Hypnotists call this a distraction technique: sending the dominant hemisphere on an assignment involving linguistic processes, thus opening the nondominant hemisphere to suggestion. Hand gestures can be used as hypnotic anchors, or to aid in hypnotic command implantation. They can be difficult to distinguish from innocent gestures used for emphasis. Obama, however, uses some gestures extraordinarily often and for very specific words such as “believe” and “chose.” His characteristic thumb-and-forefinger gesture looks like a hand holding a pencil—as if you were in a voting booth. The gesture of pointing sends the subconscious message that a person in authority is giving a command. Obama actually said at one time: “a light will shine down from somewhere, it will light upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will say to yourself, ‘I have to vote for Barack.’” You will not choose to vote for Barack: you will “have to.” It is not a logical choice, but rather one directed by a mystical (subconscious) force. What purpose would a politician have for making such a statement? Obama used it only once. Perhaps he stopped either because he realized it was too obvious or because Hillary Clinton and John McCain ridiculed him for it. Obama’s logo is noteworthy. It is always there, a small one in the middle of the podium, providing a point of visual fixation. Unlike other presidential logos, one looks through it, not at it. It might just be the letter “O,” but it also resembles a crystal ball, a favorite of hypnotists. Obama is clearly having a powerful effect on people, especially young people and highly educated people—both considered to be especially susceptible to hypnosis. It is also interesting that many Jews are supporting a candidate who is endorsed by Hamas, Farakhan, Khalidi, and Iran. While some believe that hypnosis is not real, others believe that it is very powerful, and very dangerous in the wrong hands. Dr. Erickson, father of modern hypnosis, was adamant that his techniques should only be used by physicians. In 1954, the U.S. Supreme Court decided in Leyra v. Denno that a confession obtained using hypnosis could not be used against the suspect in court. A 66-page, extensively footnoted but unsigned article “An Examination of Obama’s Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches” is available at: www.freedomsphoenix.com/Find-Freedom.htm?At=039963&From=NewsThe discussion should have broad applicability in analyzing political speech in general. Comments by those with knowledge of hypnotic techniques are especially welcome. www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/0089
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Post by theanswer on Feb 3, 2009 0:26:16 GMT -5
Here is a picture from above the tower of Cathedral Ely: www.cathedral.ely.anglican.org/media_centre/gallery/enlarge.html?group=26;file=Octagon%202.JPG"Far away across the field The tolling of the iron bell Calls the faithful to their knees To hear the softly spoken magic spells."The uppermost part of this tower is called " the lantern" : night time view: www.cathedral.ely.anglican.org/media_centre/gallery/enlarge.html?group=26;file=The%20Lantern.JPGOne could think of it as an inland light house. Interestingly, on the Rolling Stones album "Their satanic Majesties Request", there is a song called "The Lantern". Theanswer has pointed out that "Their satanic Majesties" is part of a seemingly related series of album releases involving Pink Floyd, The Beatles, and The Rolling Stones. THE LANTERN (Jagger/Richards) hear it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJPdIiLRh0s (not sung by the Stones in this version)We, on our present life, Knew that the stars were right. That if you are the first to go, You'll leave a sign to let me know, Tell me so. Please, carry the Lantern lights. You crossed the sea of night, Free from the spell of fright. Your cloak it is a spirit shroud. You'll wake me in my sleeping hours, Like a cloud. So, please, carry the Lantern high. Me, in my sorry plight, You waiting ev'ry night. My face it turns a deathly pale, You're talking to me, through your veil, I hear you wail. So, please carry the Lantern light. The servants sleep, The doors are barred. You hear the stopping of my heart-we never part. So, please carry the Lantern high. ------------------ The taower in question (correct me if I'm wrong) is an octagonal shaped tower...it had fallen in the year 1322 M|AR|OON|ED (1232) AR|ED|M|OON (2213) The page number on page 8 has a "tilted" head (some people thought it meant the leaning tower of Pisa) octal (8) number 1232 is Decimal(10) number 666 the "Lantern" is no doubt the "hidden light" of Freemasonry, and their god Lucifer.
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Post by B on Feb 3, 2009 0:37:41 GMT -5
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Post by theanswer on Feb 3, 2009 0:52:41 GMT -5
heh heh, I believe Catholicism and Freemasonry go hand in hand (the "enemy" thing is a "pretense", I believe) ************************** "When the central tower of Ely Cathedral collapsed in 1322 after standing for more than 200 years it was replaced with a structure that is unique in European cathedral architecture: a great stone octagon topped with a wooden lantern rising from its centre. www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CAM/Ely/Cathedral/index.html
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Post by B on Feb 3, 2009 1:13:08 GMT -5
But what I am trying to get at here is that the Rolling Stone song, the McCartney song, and the Pink Floyd album, are connected to things in the Ely Cathedral. The music is, in essence, the expression of the cathedral musically. A person may never get to see the Ely Cathedral in person, but the music is the "equivalent" experience, available to the masses - er - the public. And the message, whether in stone or on a CD, seems to be that "the treasure" is spiritual freedom. On Pepper, The Beatles are in attendance of their own funeral. The 'old' Beatles look on sorrowfully, while the colorful ones carry on the work. This apparently corresponds to St. Paul's discussions of being 'born again' and 'putting on the new man', etc. What is shown, symbolicly is the spiritual birth (and physical death) of The Beatles (not just Paul). Ordinarily this kind of discussion would be something one would hear about in a church, such as the Ely Cathedral. I don't think the message is concerned with Catholic versus Protestant issues, or any denominational issue. I think what you are supposed to be taking note of here is that the music is connected to the church. The message of the church is being communicated in the music. The use of the term "unearthed" in relationship to "the treasure" by publius appears to be an oblique reference to "the resurrection of the dead". Our friend Apollo, who used to post here, talked about "flowers in the dirt" in a similar fashion. What is sown in corruption is raised incorruptible, etc. Like a flower.... Coming Upwww.youtube.com/watch?v=DO6w9T1YzgEHowever the music on the Beatle, Stone, and Floyd albums goes beyond what is obvious about Ely Cathedral, and may reveal information about it as well: "Standing In The Hall Of The Great Cathedral Waiting For The Transport To Come: Starship 21zna9
Come Away On A Strange Vacation Holiday Hardly Begun ...."(from "Venus and Mars Reprise") Is the Ely Cathedral a "light house" for alien craft? (Don't laugh!) one of the halls in the great Cathedral: www.cathedral.ely.anglican.org/media_centre/gallery/enlarge.html?group=26;file=Nave.JPG
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Post by iameye on Feb 3, 2009 9:21:27 GMT -5
Mind Over Matter and "Hipgnosis" "as above, so below," this is a peter blake also same story?
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 3, 2009 13:11:10 GMT -5
But what I am trying to get at here is that the Rolling Stone song, the McCartney song, and the Pink Floyd album, are connected to things in the Ely Cathedral. The music is, in essence, the expression of the cathedral musically. A person may never get to see the Ely Cathedral in person, but the music is the "equivalent" experience, available to the masses - er - the public. And the message, whether in stone or on a CD, seems to be that "the treasure" is spiritual freedom. On Pepper, The Beatles are in attendance of their own funeral. The 'old' Beatles look on sorrowfully, while the colorful ones carry on the work. This apparently corresponds to St. Paul's discussions of being 'born again' and 'putting on the new man', etc. What is shown, symbolicly is the spiritual birth (and physical death) of The Beatles (not just Paul). Ordinarily this kind of discussion would be something one would hear about in a church, such as the Ely Cathedral. I don't think the message is concerned with Catholic versus Protestant issues, or any denominational issue. I think what you are supposed to be taking note of here is that the music is connected to the church. The message of the church is being communicated in the music. The use of the term "unearthed" in relationship to "the treasure" by publius appears to be an oblique reference to "the resurrection of the dead". Our friend Apollo, who used to post here, talked about "flowers in the dirt" in a similar fashion. What is sown in corruption is raised incorruptible, etc. Like a flower.... Coming Upwww.youtube.com/watch?v=DO6w9T1YzgEHowever the music on the Beatle, Stone, and Floyd albums goes beyond what is obvious about Ely Cathedral, and may reveal information about it as well: "Standing In The Hall Of The Great Cathedral Waiting For The Transport To Come: Starship 21zna9
Come Away On A Strange Vacation Holiday Hardly Begun ...."(from "Venus and Mars Reprise") Is the Ely Cathedral a "light house" for alien craft? (Don't laugh!) one of the halls in the great Cathedral: www.cathedral.ely.anglican.org/media_centre/gallery/enlarge.html?group=26;file=Nave.JPGGreat stuff, B! Bringing Ely Cathedral (of Cambridgeshire) into this was a stroke of genius. My contribution for the moment is to mention that the members of Pink Floyd were all from Cambridge, so they were all certainly very aware of Ely.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 3, 2009 13:28:32 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Feb 3, 2009 16:35:17 GMT -5
rocky raccoon stepped into the room
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Post by theanswer on Feb 4, 2009 13:31:22 GMT -5
I finally got a chance to view the picture...that's not his heart, it is the wound in his right side from the centurian's spear. John 19 33 But when they came to Jesus and saw that He was already dead, they did not break His legs. 34 But one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out.35 And he who has seen has testified, and his testimony is true; and he knows that he is telling the truth, so that you may believe. 36 For these things were done that the Scripture should be fulfilled, “Not one of His bones shall be broken.” 37 And again another Scripture says, “They shall look on Him whom they pierced.”
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Post by B on Feb 4, 2009 19:23:23 GMT -5
rocky raccoon stepped into the room
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Post by theanswer on Feb 4, 2009 20:19:08 GMT -5
What do you all see? a heart? number 9? a larger face representing John? an arrow pointing down?
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Post by B on Feb 4, 2009 20:43:10 GMT -5
You're going to say the heart is like the two faces on the Division Bell album?
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Post by theanswer on Feb 4, 2009 21:55:48 GMT -5
You're going to say the heart is like the two faces on the Division Bell album? That's one conclusion I drew. I watched the Ecce Cor Meum video and noticed the prominent display of the French Horns...The French Horn John is holding is what forms the heart...and "Number Nine" The trouble I have with Ely Cathedral being the central theme is the Publius message that "There is much more to this enigma than a "castle" and a field in England." I am convinced there is some sort of "mind control" involved in all of this...which is not good. There is a whiff of the French Revolution in the air...Bavarian Illuminati...Skull and Bones...Brotherhood of Death...Reign of Terror...etc. Ely is a central part of the Norman (Early French) Invasion of England just my thoughts...people are getting restless with the "orchestrated" financial crisis going on around the world...they're calling for the return of Communism in Russia...Greece (police shooting of boy) and Spain have had massive rioting and demostrations...this is no game eupolitics.einnews.com/news/greece-riotsnews.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&rls=GWYA%2CGWYA%3A2008-49%2CGWYA%3Aen&hl=en&um=1&tab=wn&nolr=1&q=Russia+riots+communismEvery dictatorship comes on the heels of a financial collapse...Hitler rose to power during the depression...etc.. sorry to take the fun out of this... Nancy Pelosi has suggested (using birth control and abortion as a means) that the solution to the financial situation is population reduction...Translation=eliminate the useless eaters Ecce Caesar! Translation= "Heil Hitler" Read the rest of John 19 starting from the beginning "We have no king but Caesar! Crucify him!" ...maybe I've just blown a fuse LOL
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Post by B on Feb 4, 2009 23:02:24 GMT -5
But I think you are too hung up on the negative, theanswer. I suspect that Publius/Enigma and PID is the same mystery, with different clues. No doubt times are bad, but weren't we told "It's getting very near the end" 42 years ago? The message of the riddles can't just be: You're toast. There's a treasure to be unearthed, afterall: Matthew 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. What I am saying is that the clues themselves are neither of darkness or of light, but they do point to something, and my guess is it is positive, or why even have the mystery to begin with? The church, Ely Cathedral, representing the heavenly kingdom, "hidden" in plain sight "in the field" symbolizes "the treasure": access to the heavenly kingdom, I would guess. In times past, the church would have been seen as the means by which one would prepare to enter into the kingdom. If the music of Pink Floyd, The Beatles and The Rolling Stones carries themes represented in Ely, then: Did you theanswer write the book of love? And do you have faith in God above, If the Bible tells you so? Do you believe in rock 'n roll; Can music save your mortal soul, And can you teach me how to dance real slow? Well, I know that you're in love with him`cause I saw you dancin' in the gym. You both kicked off your shoes. Man, I dig those rhythm and blues! (gospel music; precursor to rock and roll)It's a plot! "there is a whiff of the French Revolution in the air..."On the borderwww.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv5qLEYoSHMThere's a strangeness in the air you feel too well
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