1990 McCartney Interview from Ames

[iburiedpaul]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8aDWybd_m8&NR=1

Interesting because he says he is not a satanist. I just wonder why anyone would think he is. Also, Faul says he took off his shoes on Abby Road cover because it was hot. I've been on some shoots where it was hot and they generally don't invite you to take off your shoes during the actual photo, but maybe it's different when you're a real star. He also says playing Beatles songs felt like he had never sung them before. Whereas to me it's the opposite, old songs feel like old friends in that you know them really well (other than flubbing a lyric here and there).

Not that is comes up in the interview and maybe someone mentioned it already but Tug of War, could become Gut of War or gut fo (r) Ram?

Also, IMHO, the Wings logo is weird in that it's a 'W' (like G W Bush?) and also because it has the wings which look like the Nazi eagle wings to me.

[CoconutFudge]

Isn't it hotter on pavement with bare feet than it is with shoes on?! That really is a shady interview. And I hadn't previously heard it, so thanks for posting it.

[iburiedpaul]

And here's part one if you haven't seen it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnP99I2uFq0

I totally agree about the hot blacktop. You could scald your feet on hot blacktop, if it was so hot you had to peel off your shoes to stay cool. Also, why are they all wearing their jackets during the famous smoke break foto? And most importantly, why ispaul wearing sandals in the smoke break foto? If he had planned to not be barefoot, he would be wearing shoes and socks like the other lads. And if he was wearing sandals with no socks, as it shows in the smoking break foto, why would he bother to take off the the sandals and go barefoot? I mean sandals are pretty cool, especially compared to the footwear the others are wearing...

I couldn't figure out how to post the image, but here is a link:
exquisitelyboredinnacogdoches.blogspot.com/2007/12/beatles-fan-club-christmas-recordings.html

the caption under the foto I am referring to says "Taking a break from the Abbey Road cover shoot"

[percythrillington]

i think this interview is pretty cool. Paul seems relaxed and he takes questions randomly, which means he didn't prepare answers in advance, so I like the spontaneity of it.
About the satanist comment, I think he was referring to Heavy metal (early 90s = PMRC movement, stickers on CDs etc...)
"He also says playing Beatles songs felt like he had never sung them before." >> unlike you, Paul probably doesn't listen to Beatles CDs often.
About the Abbey Road cover, I do believe the shoot was done in the late morning, which means that the weather could have gotten warmer, yet the ground could still be cold. And sandals are ugly, I am glad he is not wearing them on the cover of the album.

The Wings logo has a W like in GW Bush? hahaha and it has wings? oh my... A Wings logo with wings, hahaha.
You're funny.

[iburiedpaul]

Man, you just have tons of insight. You are a virtual expert on ground temperature :}}

So you think Faul hasn't heard the Beatles songs very often? Everybody hears Beatles songs all the time. You can't escape it. If fact, I just heard Penny Lane and Good Morning at Whole Foods this morning (and I was in there for 10 minutes). Unless you think Faul is like Bogart in Casablanca (Whitehouse?) saying to Sam, the piano player, "Sam I thought i told you to never play that song!" every time the Beatles come on the radio or in the elevator.

As for the W: I was referring to W being a big part of the WAR marketing ("I am the War President," said W with a big W behind him, and a W on his bumper sticker) and the fact that the 'W' was a big part of his marketing for the war. Plus if you believe in that kind of a thing, it would be a NWO allusion. Along the NWO lines, wings are an image that the nazi marketing machine used. When I saw the prominent use of the 'W' in Wings I thought of NWO. The Beatles didn't use the B, the Stones don't use the S, and the Dead didn't use the 'D'. At the time Wings came out nobody thought about the 'W' but 25-30 years later it has been re-contextualized. Meaning that may have always been inherent in the symbol has become less obscure (again if you believe in a holographic universe, and maybe you don't)

The fact that he looks natural (and all I got to do is act naturally) is not a very good argument for those of us who see and hear at least two different people when we listen to Paul/Faul. For us, Faul is a master actor who can fool the world with his charm and good looks (got to be good looking cause he's so hard to see)

And by the way, I do hear different Paul voices in the Beatles ouvre. For example, when I heard Penny Lane today at Whole Foods. It sure sounded like the original guy mixed in with another voice that was sounded more tinny like how Faul sounds. One of the best examples of Paul/Faul voice(s) is to compare the demo of Yesterday with the one Faul plays today. there a certain trademark qualities such when he does the vocal riff elongating the word Yester-day-ay-ay-ay. Faul does it much cleaner but without the depth like when Zeppelin or Clapton cover the Robert Johnson.

Everything you say is probably correct about heavy metal, but on the other hand maybe you are wrong. Maybe it's a case of, me thinks the lady doth protest too much. Nobody was saying Faul was the leader of a satanic movement, until Faul brought it up. If I were in a satanic cult I would consider Faul a viable leader (that's a joke, of course).

This is all just my opinion, and I don't claim to know anything (don't know much about history...)

However, I am glad you think I am funny. To make someone laugh is a gift. So, let me say thank you because I think you are funny too.

[percythrillington]

Geez, they only play crap stuff at the Whole Food where I go. Lucky you. Maybe I should spend more time there, like you.
Before the nazis, I can see Napoleon used both the eagle (complete with wings!) and the N symbol. However, I don't remember the nazis using the wings-only as one of their symbol (it was always an eagle too). So if i had to interpret the Wings logo, I would see it more as an hippie artifact , with wings symbolizing freedom etc... or just symbolizing the name of the band
Also, I thought it was G Bush Senior who was talking about New World Order (as mentionned in one of the songs by the noisemongers american band Ministry), not the son.
I am not a virtual expert on ground temperature, nor are you an expert on multitrack recording, voice recognition or Beatles history. I am just trying to use common sense. The Yesterday demo vs. current version is not relevant to me, as there is 40year in between the 2 versions.
And I never use the fact that Paul looks natural in the interview as an argument, I just said it was one of the reasons I enjoyed watching the interview. Why does everything has to be turned into arguments with you, PID people

I am sure you don't claim to know anything, especially not french, as it's "oeuvre" and not "ouvre".
And to sound more convincing, you should listen to the Beatles in the better context than while shopping for your 12grain yeast-free bread.

[iburiedpaul]

percythrillington said:

Geez, they only play crap stuff at the Whole Food where I go. Lucky you. Maybe I should spend more time there, like you.
Before the nazis, I can see Napoleon used both the eagle (complete with wings!) and the N symbol. However, I don't remember the nazis using the wings-only as one of their symbol (it was always an eagle too). So if i had to interpret the Wings logo, I would see it more as an hippie artifact , with wings symbolizing freedom etc... or just symbolizing the name of the band
Also, I thought it was G Bush Senior who was talking about New World Order (as mentionned in one of the songs by the noisemongers american band Ministry), not the son.
I am not a virtual expert on ground temperature, nor are you an expert on multitrack recording, voice recognition or Beatles history. I am just trying to use common sense. The Yesterday demo vs. current version is not relevant to me, as there is 40year in between the 2 versions.
And I never use the fact that Paul looks natural in the interview as an argument, I just said it was one of the reasons I enjoyed watching the interview. Why does everything has to be turned into arguments with you, PID people

I am sure you don't claim to know anything, especially not french, as it's "oeuvre" and not "ouvre".
And to sound more convincing, you should listen to the Beatles in the better context than while shopping for your 12grain yeast-free bread.

I think the PID community is actually pretty nice, and I am proud that you put me in that group since I am actually an outsider. However, you are coming into a PID/PWR community that welcomes outside points of view. And yet, YOU seem to be trying to pick a petty fight (I'm sorry i misspelled the french, but what does it matter?)

Besides how do you explain the fact that Hitler's first punk band was called Wings?

now to refute your points:
1)<Before the nazis, I can see Napoleon used both the eagle (complete with wings!) and the N symbol. However, I don't remember the nazis using the wings-only as one of their symbol (it was always an eagle too).>

In NWO visual iconography eagles = wings more or less

2)< So if i had to interpret the Wings logo, I would see it more as an hippie artifact , with wings symbolizing freedom etc... or just symbolizing the name of the band >

I have never seen wings used by hippies. They use peace signs, dancing bears etc. If I have missed it, please help me out.

3) <Also, I thought it was G Bush Senior who was talking about New World Order (as mentionned in one of the songs by the noisemongers american band Ministry), not the son.>
Yeah, you are right the Father and son have nothing to do with each other. Junior has no interest in a world government. I mean, why would I think father and son (and even granddaddy, prescott, who backed the bank that financed hitler) would share an agenda.

4)<I am not a virtual expert on ground temperature, nor are you an expert on multitrack recording, >
Actually i work in studios everyday. So while not an expert, I do have experience in that regard with all due respect to your expertise in ground temperature.

<voice recognition>
like I said I am in the studio every day, making choices about vocal tracks, singers etc...doesn't make me an expert but i am not a novice

< or Beatles history.>
compared to people on this board absolutely not, but it is a hobby and has been for years. I think if you take a quiz on it I am a solid B minus.

4) < I am just trying to use common sense. The Yesterday demo vs. current version is not relevant to me, as there is 40year in between the 2 versions.>
That's where actual experience beats common sense, my friend. The range of a person's voice may change, but the characteristics don't. Bob Dylan is an awesome example of this. He does many different versions of his own songs, yet it is always Bob, not Fob. And as easy as it is to do an imitation of Bob, it is impossible to imitate him.

5) <And I never use the fact that Paul looks natural in the interview as an argument, I just said it was one of the reasons I enjoyed watching the interview. Why does everything has to be turned into arguments with you, PID people >
You said it as though you were making the point that he was so natural, he could not be lying. If I misunderstood, I apologize. but if you are just trying to win a war with me, then I concede.

[iameye]

iburiedpaul said:

2)< So if i had to interpret the Wings logo, I would see it more as an hippie artifact , with wings symbolizing freedom etc... or just symbolizing the name of the band >

I have never seen wings used by hippies. They use peace signs, dancing bears etc. If I have missed it, please help me out.

.....and of course, if you also mirror the wings logo, again you get the double diamonds.....



F OO L on the hill

[percythrillington]

1- what NWO visual iconography are you talking about? can you reference it? It seems like a big abstract concept to me.
2- if eagles = wings more or less, how about the dove? isn't it a hippie/peace symbol? Also, it's obvious that Wings was more a nazi/satanist band than a hippie band, right?
3- the dad was more explicit about the NWO reference. W seems more interested in his personal interests.
4- I work in studios almost everyday too, yet, I don't listen to songs at Whole Foods. If you are an engineer, then you should know that depending on the EQ, the compression level, and the gear you're using, can sound "more tinny" like how Faul sounds. Also, if you take John as an example, you noticed how he liked to play with his voice and tried to make it sound different on a lot of songs, by using effects, speed, voice tone, etc...
4a- my point was more that artists, including Paul, are free to change songs with years, and change the way they sing them. A song, for some, is a perpetual piece of work. Dylan is an awesome writer, but on a musical point of view, he is pretty limited.
5- yes, i like the interview because Paul is relaxed in it. I didn't make a point out of it.
6- Misspelling french does matter, as it looks like you were trying to use fancy words, with "oeuvre". Also, I am french, and I don't like it when people slaughter my language. But then again, you misspelled english words as well, so my bad on this one, I shouldn't have taken it personally.
7- I doubt Hitler would ever had a punk band, as most punk bands propagate a left-wing ideology. Even tho some of them use the swastika as a provocative symbol. (even Manson did, yet he was some drugged-up hippie).
8- don't take everything i say too seriously, i might sound vindictive, yet, I am just having fun here. Also, I truly appreciate the people around here who are open minded enough to hear outside points of view. I wouldn't stick around if this board was only populated with anti-P(F)aul fascists.

[iburiedpaul]

percythrillington said:

1- what NWO visual iconography are you talking about? can you reference it? It seems like a big abstract concept to me.
2- if eagles = wings more or less, how about the dove? isn't it a hippie/peace symbol? Also, it's obvious that Wings was more a nazi/satanist band than a hippie band, right?
3- the dad was more explicit about the NWO reference. W seems more interested in his personal interests.
4- I work in studios almost everyday too, yet, I don't listen to songs at Whole Foods. If you are an engineer, then you should know that depending on the EQ, the compression level, and the gear you're using, can sound "more tinny" like how Faul sounds. Also, if you take John as an example, you noticed how he liked to play with his voice and tried to make it sound different on a lot of songs, by using effects, speed, voice tone, etc...
4a- my point was more that artists, including Paul, are free to change songs with years, and change the way they sing them. A song, for some, is a perpetual piece of work. Dylan is an awesome writer, but on a musical point of view, he is pretty limited.
5- yes, i like the interview because Paul is relaxed in it. I didn't make a point out of it.
6- Misspelling french does matter, as it looks like you were trying to use fancy words, with "oeuvre". Also, I am french, and I don't like it when people slaughter my language. But then again, you misspelled english words as well, so my bad on this one, I shouldn't have taken it personally.
7- I doubt Hitler would ever had a punk band, as most punk bands propagate a left-wing ideology. Even tho some of them use the swastika as a provocative symbol. (even Manson did, yet he was some drugged-up hippie).
8- don't take everything i say too seriously, i might sound vindictive, yet, I am just having fun here. Also, I truly appreciate the people around here who are open minded enough to hear outside points of view. I wouldn't stick around if this board was only populated with anti-P(F)aul fascists.

Ok I'm glad you are having fun. I thought you were just being an asshole. No I am not talking about eq, btw. I am sure you work in the studio, but like I say that really doesn't make you (or me) an expert. And if tinny was the wrong word to describe the sound quality of Faul's voice, that's because it's hard to describe these things. But to my ears, they are different voices.

I am not trying to use fancy words, btw. Just struggling to find the right words (and trying to have fun as well)

But if I have failed to make my point with you, I accept that and I hope that maybe someone else appreciates my efforts. I certainly disagree with you about Dylan. He's a great musician and like pavorati he hits all the right notes. Further, Clapton changed the arrangement to Layla drastically and it still sounds like Eric. Faul kept the arrangement to Yesterday pretty much the same, and it sounds like a different singer TO ME.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL1qCO04dpg&feature=related