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Post by Red Lion on Aug 6, 2007 15:07:33 GMT -5
For those interested in the possibility of JPM merely being replaced and not dead, have a look.
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Post by plastic paul on Aug 6, 2007 17:05:06 GMT -5
Ooh thats a pretty good one actually
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Post by mommybird on Aug 7, 2007 7:31:16 GMT -5
As I've stated numerous times, there is definitely a resemblance between them. It's as if Faul is Paul's bigger, goofier looking brother ! ;D I love that photo of Paul, Red Lion. With all the photos that I have in my "collection" ( & everyone knows that's ALOT ;D ) I've never before seen either of the photos you just posted. Those photos are very well matched up. It's an excellent comparison.
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 7, 2007 11:16:31 GMT -5
There appears to be a bit more than a resemblance going on here.
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Post by mommybird on Aug 7, 2007 12:01:06 GMT -5
You've lost me. What is it that you're trying to say To me, it almost looks like they put Paul's smaller face inside of a bigger face. Paul's forehead is definitley smaller than Faul's in that comparison. The space between the nose & upper lip looks larger on Faul's face. The two front teeth look different on both men. Their noses are slightly different, and Paul's eyes appear larger than Faul's.
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 7, 2007 12:07:10 GMT -5
You should refer to my opening statement.
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Post by mommybird on Aug 7, 2007 12:09:24 GMT -5
So you're saying that the second photo is also JPM ? It resembles him, but it's not him. The guy in the second photo has a more oblong shaped head & face.
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 7, 2007 13:08:03 GMT -5
And you know that how, cuz JPM is dead right?
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Post by fourthousandholes on Aug 7, 2007 14:18:11 GMT -5
But even if JPM isn't dead, what would be your explanation of the similarity, Red Lion? People's skulls don't generally grow after about age 20.
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 7, 2007 15:17:34 GMT -5
In this particular photo, I dont see very much of a discrepancy in any of the features. Cant say for sure that it is JPM but it doesnt look like Bill.
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Post by mystery tour on Aug 7, 2007 17:10:51 GMT -5
Has this photo been flipped? The nostrils are totally reversed, if not different.
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Post by JoJo on Aug 7, 2007 17:22:25 GMT -5
Well, going by the buttons, especially visible on the latter pic, they are on the right (correct) side for a gentleman.
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Post by eyesbleed on Aug 7, 2007 18:22:48 GMT -5
Ya that's a very interesting comparison RL It doesn't seem like it's Bill. The differences are much harder to pic out than usual, at least for me.
You had another really good comparison with one of the pics bein' from the full-beard phase of who-ever-the-hell-it is, right?
Forget solvin' this thing... I don't think we'll ever get past the PWR vs. PID problem.!
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Post by mommybird on Aug 7, 2007 19:25:00 GMT -5
I'm on one of the kid's computers & it's slow as shit. I can't do any further photo comparisons or listen to any wav files until tomorrow. I feel emasculated !!! AAARRRGGGHHH !!!!!
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Post by revolver on Aug 14, 2007 20:45:31 GMT -5
I see Bill in the eyes. There's no doubt he resembled Paul at that point in time, from that particluar angle.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Aug 14, 2007 21:17:19 GMT -5
I know that some may not like my "Two Faul" theory, but could this be the "other Faul"? The one that was not used as often? Who was the bearded "Mountain Man" who was on the cover of the Mc Cartney album? This man does not have the round eyes that Bill clearly has, these are the more droopy Paul eye, but he's not JPM! I would be curious to see the comparison between this droopy Faul and the one with the beard. I'm certain there were Two Fauls, but Bill prevailed as the Paul Mc Cartney we know today.
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Post by CoconutFudge on Aug 15, 2007 1:44:19 GMT -5
As much as I would like to deny it, that doesn't look like the Faul that we all know as Bill. As I think about it more, I may be buying into the multiple Faul theory because of pictures like this.
That said, I can still clearly discern between whoever it is in the second picture and JPM. I really think the eyes are the giveaway. Upon really examining the eyes, it'd be difficult to say that these are the same people. This realization makes me notice other teensy differences, particularly the lines of their respective faces.
I would be interested to see some hand comparisons. It's really hard to tell in this picture, but the hands seem a bit different to me. I can't put my finger (har har!) on what the difference is, but something is telling me it's there. Has there already been a thread on that at all that I could direct myself to?
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Post by Jude on Aug 15, 2007 6:20:07 GMT -5
I can't see any differences. Either they're both Paul, or Paul had a look-alike brother. I must be going blind....I just can't see the difference between the eyes, the eyebrows, nose, and especially the lips. But all the same, like LovelyRita said, it would be nice to see a comparison between this Paul and the rugged, beared Paul of LIB and McCartney.
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Post by GN on Aug 15, 2007 6:50:24 GMT -5
A Bootleg Zone thread with a discussion on whether those early '67 photos were using a "fake stache". LINKSomeone claims to have found the original pic, and did a fade between the two: (page 2 of thread) I've seen situations like this, where one picture's width/height ratio is a little different then the other's. I don't know the source of the no mustache pic, so I can't comment on it's authenticity, only it doesn't look to have had the mustache "shopped" out. I think it's pretty clear that it was shopped in however. (whatever that meant in 1967) You've lost me. What is it that you're trying to say To me, it almost looks like they put Paul's smaller face inside of a bigger face. Paul's forehead is definitley smaller than Faul's in that comparison. The space between the nose & upper lip looks larger on Faul's face. The two front teeth look different on both men. Their noses are slightly different, and Paul's eyes appear larger than Faul's.
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Post by skyward on Aug 15, 2007 10:17:57 GMT -5
This site (iwanexstudio.com) may have been posted before, if not, you should check out how celeb-photos are manipulated. The site may have bandwidth problems due to overuse, but if you can get there, click on portfolio and choose a celeb face along the bottom rows. Airbrushing and Photo Manipulation examples of celebs To my eyes, that pic (the first comp in the thread) looks more like JPM than Faul and that would support the PWR theory.
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Post by mommybird on Aug 15, 2007 11:00:42 GMT -5
Skyward, he looks like JPM but his head is too big. All that photo proves is at that time, Faul had the look down pat !
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Post by mommybird on Aug 15, 2007 14:34:59 GMT -5
That is Linda's husband in that photo, not Paul. You can't have it both ways. He already resembled Paul when he took the job. Plastic surgery & filler shots were used to enhance this resemblence. Paul's head, face & forehead are smaller.
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Post by revolver on Aug 15, 2007 20:05:15 GMT -5
Yes, it's easy to forget how much bigger Bill's head was than Paul's (more ways than one?) when there's nothing in the photo to compare it to. Those PWNR faders always scale Faul's head to match Paul's based on the assumption that they're the same person.
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Post by revolver on Aug 15, 2007 21:58:03 GMT -5
A Bootleg Zone thread with a discussion on whether those early '67 photos were using a "fake stache". LINKSomeone claims to have found the original pic, and did a fade between the two: (page 2 of thread) I've seen situations like this, where one picture's width/height ratio is a little different then the other's. I don't know the source of the no mustache pic, so I can't comment on it's authenticity, only it doesn't look to have had the mustache "shopped" out. I think it's pretty clear that it was shopped in however. (whatever that meant in 1967) You've lost me. What is it that you're trying to say To me, it almost looks like they put Paul's smaller face inside of a bigger face. Paul's forehead is definitley smaller than Faul's in that comparison. The space between the nose & upper lip looks larger on Faul's face. The two front teeth look different on both men. Their noses are slightly different, and Paul's eyes appear larger than Faul's. That's a great find. We always assumed that the mustache was painted on. This proves it. Not a hair is out of place, between the two photos. Too bad even this won't convince (m)any of the PWNR crowd that something fishy was going on in late 1966.
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Post by brotherdave on Aug 15, 2007 22:11:42 GMT -5
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