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Post by skyward on Aug 12, 2007 19:03:23 GMT -5
What is that last image? It looks like an African American man. What could that mean? I'm not sure if it means anything, but that is the mirror image on our left side of the album, that is Floyd Patterson (nope, Sonny Liston), I think. Here is another spooky mirror image at a horizontal near the bottom. Goat of Mendes?
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Post by plastic paul on Aug 12, 2007 19:20:24 GMT -5
What is that last image? It looks like an African American man. What could that mean? I'm not sure if it means anything, but that is the mirror image on our left side of the album, that is Floyd Patterson, I think. Do you mean Sonny Liston?
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Post by il ras on Aug 13, 2007 2:55:43 GMT -5
Pls check this... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ParedoliaNot saying that there isn't something interesting on the cover; just that human mind sometimes tricks itself
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Aug 14, 2007 3:27:41 GMT -5
This is the Walrus in the Temple Doors mirror image, I think it's well known. It is rather ominous, almost like a sacrifice of sorts. It looks like there is a little red gnome with a pointy cap holding down a headless Shirley Temple by pressing on her shoulders. It looks like her feet are in stirrups. Looks like a buggy-eyed skull in the darkness of the Walrus' mouth. This is just below the above...Ant?PaulM Priest?Interesting you used the term "Temple Doors" ..as if the union of Shirley Temple and the blonde actress forms some sort of "sanctuary" for some bizarre religious ritual, and robed man of color is officiating this service!
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Post by skyward on Aug 14, 2007 11:55:12 GMT -5
Interesting you used the term "Temple Doors" ..as if the union of Shirley Temple and the blonde actress forms some sort of "sanctuary" for some bizarre religious ritual, and robed man of color is officiating this service! Diana Dors at IMDB That is Diana Dors, so it is Temple Dors... Makes you think about the placement of each individual.
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Post by mommybird on Aug 14, 2007 13:33:05 GMT -5
I know that everyone is having a good time with the mirror image stuff. I know this is going to sound funny coming from me. Anyone who knows me, knows that I am not a close-minded or narrow-minded individual. I have been wondering about this for a very long time. Starting with the comics that came with the MMT record album, onto the mirror imaging. In order for any of this to have been worthwhile to the people who did this, they had to believe that someone in the future would go to all the trouble to scrutinize these things. How could they possibly foresee that far into the future ? The placement of the cutouts & mannequins on the SPLHCB album cover would seem to have been done with inpeccable precision. To what end ? We have been at this for at least 5 years now, and we seem to be coming up with more & more possibilities. Who could've been behind all of this ? The more & more intricate it gets, the more I wonder how deep the occult connection is between it all. I am having very serious doubts that any of the original Beatles had any knowledge of what was being done. I believe that the year 1967 was a deep black hole for all of them.
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Post by skyward on Aug 14, 2007 14:38:19 GMT -5
I know that everyone is having a good time with the mirror image stuff. I know this is going to sound funny coming from me. Anyone who knows me, knows that I am not a close-minded or narrow-minded individual. I have been wondering about this for a very long time. Starting with the comics that came with the MMT record album, onto the mirror imaging. In order for any of this to have been worthwhile to the people who did this, they had to believe that someone in the future would go to all the trouble to scrutinize these things. How could they possibly foresee that far into the future ? The placement of the cutouts & mannequins on the SPLHCB album cover would seem to have been done with inpeccable precision. To what end ? We have been at this for at least 5 years now, and we seem to be coming up with more & more possibilities. Who could've been behind all of this ? The more & more intricate it gets, the more I wonder how deep the occult connection is between it all. I am having very serious doubts that any of the original Beatles had any knowledge of what was being done. I believe that the year 1967 was a deep black hole for all of them. The guys were very much into the drug culture of the time, they weren't really shy about experimenting with new things or ideas. 'The girl with kaleidoscope eyes' could have added finer details to the cover shot after it was taken, that is a possibility. Lewis Carroll and beyond the looking glass...
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Post by mommybird on Aug 14, 2007 14:45:17 GMT -5
That is possible. If anyone was involved in something so intricate, it would have to be John. The thing is, John was a basketcase during the time that all of that was dreamed up. Now if those things had been set up in 1968 or later, than I would have an easier time believing that the boys had a hand in it.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Aug 14, 2007 21:27:35 GMT -5
Perhaps the people who set up the figures are into the occult and had "visions" that inspired the deliberate placement of these particular individuals.
Maybe there was something "otherworldly" from trances or meditation that paved the way for the creativity.
Maybe "kaliedoscope eyes" was one of John's "Lennonisms" for some spiritual vision that either came from acid, or from some occultic induced vision. Anything is possible.
There is just too much imagery from just people setting up lifesize cutouts of famous and infamous people of the time and from the past.
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Post by The Deceptionist on Aug 15, 2007 12:30:34 GMT -5
That is possible. If anyone was involved in something so intricate, it would have to be John. The thing is, John was a basketcase during the time that all of that was dreamed up. Now if those things had been set up in 1968 or later, than I would have an easier time believing that the boys had a hand in it. basketcase or genius? no one i think was in his tree - i mean he must've been high or low anybody who took the amount of psychedelic drugs that John did between 65-67 must have been a man on a mission, completely detached from most of day-to-day life somebody as inventive and creative as John on a constant supply of acid, DMT etc will have found weird places to go in their head - is it entirely inadmissible that the whole LP cover idea was the result of two years constant tripping combined with John's sublime creative force? www.lavondyss.com/donut/guide/lsd.html "I couldn't believe how much I learned about my psyche in those few hours. I experienced a fantastic display of colorful visions, some abstract and geometrical, others figurative and filled with symbolic import. The sheer intensity of the array of emotions I felt simply amazed me. I was hit by a radiance that seemed comparable to the epicenter of a nuclear explosion, or perhaps the light of supernatural brilliance said in oriental scriptures to appear to us at the moment of death. This thunderbolt catapulted me out of my body. First I lost my awareness of my immediate surroundings, then the psychiatric clinic, then Prague (Czechoslovakia), and finally the planet. At an inconceivable speed my consciousness expanded to cosmic dimensions. I experienced the Big Bang, passed through black holes and white holes in the universe, identified with exploding supernovas, and witnessed many other strange phenomena that seemed to be pulsars, quasars, and other cosmic events." Perhaps it all came to him in an instance. Perhaps his perception of time over those two years was extended to a lifetime - during which he was able to plan and conceive of the whole thing in what to anybody else would seem like a fraction of a second www.lavondyss.com/donut/guide/dmt.html "If one smokes a smaller amount of N,N-DMT, say around 20 mg., they will tend to experience only the visual aspect of the high, without getting in touch with gnomes and discarnate entities. Following is a friend's description of DMT visuals produced by smoking 20 mg. doses every 20 to 30 minutes. "The vibration is still very strong at this level and objects in the room become cartoonish and jeweled with rotating 'pools' of interlocked spiraling gems on wall surfaces and ceiling. At the peak of the 20 mg. tokes, brilliantly changing latticework becomes apparent within. A gooey liquid of phosphorescent brilliance knits itself into neon lattices of emerald green and iridescent blue against a molten gold background. Always changing, always new, always novel, these geometric storms of shape and color never cease to amaze me with their beauty and intricacy; something one can FEEL as well as see. Clouds of molten gold liquid, boiling, seethe into arabesques and chainwork networks. Each node of each net and lattice form a jeweled point of incredible pure color, all rotating and pulsating through the eyes, brain, and stomach, as one becomes a transparent electric ghost deciphering mysto-glyphs for eternity! " This next experience comes from a friend who smoked a full-strength dose. "The stuff hit me instantaneously. MILLIONS of brilliantly colored little 'skull clowns' swarmed me in a most visionary way while emitting crickling, tinging sounds which looked like violet sparks coming out of their mouths. These tiny skull clowns were laughing most musically as I died in the light. Melt down - feels like drowning and being electrocuted at the same time. Some fear is good though, and pretty soon the skull clown swarm had laughed me through death to a place of jeweled coiling roots and capillaries, swaying endlessly in a gem lit sea... The glowing, ember-like afterimage instantly swirls and shatters into blue and red sizzling domes that pinwheel ecstatically into a Creative, God-Thing with a trillion jeweled eyes that dissolves into an atomic ocean. This is the multi-eyed God that is my Creator, Master, Destroyer. I am nothing compared to this Thing which has no ego boundaries whatsoever and can turn into anything it damn well wishes, even death itself if it wants to!" www.lavondyss.com/donut/guide/2c-b.html My experiences with 2C-B have been quite varied. With a low, "museum level" dose, I experience what resembles a speedy acid high hardly worth discussing. It is when I take a somewhat larger dose that the unique aspects of this substance begin to manifest. It is definitely an "up" experience. There is lots of physical energy. The visual aspect can be extraordinary, with intense vivid colors and intricate patterning that is reminiscent of mescaline visuals and seems charged with electricity. In one experience the visuals appeared as complete chaos before becoming a portion of a vast cosmic order. On a good dose of 2C-B I'm content to just lay back for hours and trip on watching my mind. On some occasions 2C-B has given me visibility into what I will call the "assembly" or "machine" language of the mind. As an example, if you see the number 3, the typical response is to identify the symbol as the number 3, and think about its meaning within the context you are seeing it. On a finer scale, many thousands of neurons are connected in the brain's interpretation and identification of the symbol and linkage to the stored memory of 3. While on 2C-B, I've seen that only 80-90% of this mental "signal" comes back as 3, the remaining 10-20% having connected elsewhere in the mind or run into closed synapses, etc. I have found this awareness of the mind's "assembly" language to be simultaneously insightful, discombobulating, and humorous. It is widely known that John spent almost the entirety of 66-67 deep within a trip wrapped in an experience wrapped in an enigma wrapped in the 60's. John being John was no doubt able to interpret the effects of these drugs through some creative channeling of sorts - are we just unraveling clues from a trip of epic proportions secreted either knowingly or otherwise in records from 65 onwards - or could i be going down the garden path on a dead end trail? Who knows - not me..
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Post by mommybird on Aug 15, 2007 12:39:31 GMT -5
Deceptionist wrote: It is widely known that John spent almost the entirety of 66-67 deep within a trip wrapped in an experience wrapped in an enigma wrapped in the 60's. John being John was no doubt able to interpret the effects of these drugs through some creative channeling of sorts - are we just unraveling clues from a trip of epic proportions secreted either knowingly or otherwise in records from 65 onwards - or could i be going down the garden path on a dead end trail? I hadn't considered that. I really appreciate the other anecdotes that you posted. The thing is, if all that was done was done under the heavy influence of hallucinagenics, would it make sense to us today I would think that some of it would because of John's genius. But all of it... It just seems too planned, too contrived...
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