I have the Answer to Rotten Apple Series!!

[ithinkiknow]

I have only been in on this PID/PWR for a couple of months. I did not previously know of this "hoax" but come across it. How I came across it actually is the answer for what the Rotten Apple series is.

I in no way know whether PID/PWR but believe the RA is NOT the answer, although it presents interesting links, most of those are unsubstantiated and are only "discovered" due to Iamaphoney and people's belief he has inside information.

What I have come to realise is that the Rotten Apple is an ARG game.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game

This game is being or has been developed by the Guy who created the game NOTPRON.

www.deathball.net/notpron/

There are several things that make me believe this:

The game has levels and several specific refer to the PID/PWR stuff and led me to the RA series.

The guy responsible for Notpron has discussed in his forums about doing something like notpron (as people love the game) but totally different in another vein

forums.gameservers.net/showthread.php?s=91420c7bb60d0e00078c1674417edd1b&threadid=37686&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

The video that was "found" in the satchel hidden by Iamaphoney reminds me of something from Notpron, but I can't remember what. Something about that evil looking mask!

Also in the Rotten Apple threads there is a member called milesdeo I actually believe this person to be the creator of NotPron and his new game about PID/PWR. For two reasons the creator is David Muennich (the dm from milesdeo) and also his writing style is quite similar, esp when he is giving out cryptic clues:

Milesdeo:

Re: The rotten apple 2
« Reply #3987 on Apr 1, 2008, 3:24pm »

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If your still interested in the briefcase, remember the source: the RA: the voice that implied that Mal Evans kept a book - "The Secret" - inside a suitcase. If it's the Mal Evans briefcase, there was no such book inside, we know that now. So the contents are not "The Secret," only more clues.

When IAAP says, "It doesn't seem that the guys are looking close enough," he must be speaking of the group of people that are trying to figure these clues out, unless 65if2007 is "the guys." You're not plural are you 65if?

For that reason, I believe IAAP is telling you all to look closer at the items that were in the case.

MACLEN MUSIC
LILLI M < notice that the M is also underlined.

An arrow pointing to the chin.
Paul Mc 8RL

What do you think?
« Last Edit: Apr 1, 2008, 3:38pm by milesdeo »

David Muennich giving clues in the forums
forums.gameservers.net/forumdisplay.php?s=91420c7bb60d0e00078c1674417edd1b&forumid=527

Also he points to the fact that his next game is based on the symbol on the top left of his home page. Guess what it says?!

www.david-m.org/

Truth and the symbol is probably one which will have some kind of connection.

Now I do not know what this means for the PID/PWR theories, but I would think some or a lot of his vids would contain "clues" that are not relevant and are cleverly orchestrated for his game.

I also am not sure if he has done this on his own. There is a similar game called weffriddles and I am seriously believe there is a distinct possibility that these men may be working together, although it is possible they are not. Weffriddles was another game similar to Notpron designed by a Jeff who was inspired to do some clever stuff

www.weffriddles.com/

And if not this guy I think it is someone else doing as I described above!

Tell me what you think!I'm positive I have solved it!

[B]

This is all new territory for me. I'll have to look into it a bit before I can offer any reasonable
comments. Interesting first post, ithinkiknow. Are you suggesting that the RA series
is basically invalid, because it is "only a game", or do you think that the clues like the Zodiac killer
might have some validity?

[ithinkiknow]

The game has a different answer than it is by this guy probably i.e. not the answer of the game. But I believe strongly this is where the RA series has come from and is where it is heading so not entirely PID/PWR "truthful'.

[milesdeo]

[The Deceptionist]

wow... just - wow

i had no idea this kind of thing even existed... its like a weird movie.

this has me stumped. i cant think of anything to say. just.. woah

[ithinkiknow]

I think that there is a shift in the vids of RA which has been mentioned here elsewhere. At the point where it begins to deviate is where I believe the guy has inserted connections "clues" which are not altogether related to form a game surrounding the "myth" of PID/PWR. So what that means about the RA series is they have little value in helping to discover what the "truth" is.

milesdeo I am fairly certain I know who some of those people you refer to are. Is it that Iamaphoney left the game/video/cd in California for somewhere that l.i.l.y is i.e. is it that the answer is where to buy or obtain his new game/vid etc? I myself am unable to find that info out because I cannot go to california to test out my theory.

also it is no coincidence that DM of Notpron has links to HIS music and painting etc. There clearly is an interest in artistic endeavours and he clearly is a very clever man!

[milesdeo]

[pauliedied]

Apr 26, 2008 21:02:30 GMT -5 ithinkiknow said:

I have only been in on this PID/PWR for a couple of months. I did not previously know of this "hoax" but come across it. How I came across it actually is the answer for what the Rotten Apple series is.

I in no way know whether PID/PWR but believe the RA is NOT the answer, although it presents interesting links, most of those are unsubstantiated and are only "discovered" due to Iamaphoney and people's belief he has inside information.

What I have come to realise is that the Rotten Apple is an ARG game.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game

This game is being or has been developed by the Guy who created the game NOTPRON.

www.deathball.net/notpron/

There are several things that make me believe this:

The game has levels and several specific refer to the PID/PWR stuff and led me to the RA series.

The guy responsible for Notpron has discussed in his forums about doing something like notpron (as people love the game) but totally different in another vein

forums.gameservers.net/showthread.php?s=91420c7bb60d0e00078c1674417edd1b&threadid=37686&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

The video that was "found" in the satchel hidden by Iamaphoney reminds me of something from Notpron, but I can't remember what. Something about that evil looking mask!

Also in the Rotten Apple threads there is a member called milesdeo I actually believe this person to be the creator of NotPron and his new game about PID/PWR. For two reasons the creator is David Muennich (the dm from milesdeo) and also his writing style is quite similar, esp when he is giving out cryptic clues:

Milesdeo:

Re: The rotten apple 2
« Reply #3987 on Apr 1, 2008, 3:24pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If your still interested in the briefcase, remember the source: the RA: the voice that implied that Mal Evans kept a book - "The Secret" - inside a suitcase. If it's the Mal Evans briefcase, there was no such book inside, we know that now. So the contents are not "The Secret," only more clues.

When IAAP says, "It doesn't seem that the guys are looking close enough," he must be speaking of the group of people that are trying to figure these clues out, unless 65if2007 is "the guys." You're not plural are you 65if?

For that reason, I believe IAAP is telling you all to look closer at the items that were in the case.

MACLEN MUSIC
LILLI M < notice that the M is also underlined.

An arrow pointing to the chin.
Paul Mc 8RL

What do you think?
« Last Edit: Apr 1, 2008, 3:38pm by milesdeo »

David Muennich giving clues in the forums
forums.gameservers.net/forumdisplay.php?s=91420c7bb60d0e00078c1674417edd1b&forumid=527

Also he points to the fact that his next game is based on the symbol on the top left of his home page. Guess what it says?!

www.david-m.org/

Truth and the symbol is probably one which will have some kind of connection.

Now I do not know what this means for the PID/PWR theories, but I would think some or a lot of his vids would contain "clues" that are not relevant and are cleverly orchestrated for his game.

I also am not sure if he has done this on his own. There is a similar game called weffriddles and I am seriously believe there is a distinct possibility that these men may be working together, although it is possible they are not. Weffriddles was another game similar to Notpron designed by a Jeff who was inspired to do some clever stuff

www.weffriddles.com/

And if not this guy I think it is someone else doing as I described above!

Tell me what you think!I'm positive I have solved it!

i posted a similar idea a while ago... and i really believe it is a kind of a ARG...

there is no other logic explanation

[vince]

Quoth The Dude: "That's a bummer".

But, wouldn't the REAL APPLE FOLKS have gotten litigious on phony's ass (or asses) already?

[therufian]

What I'd like to know is why Mike hasn't posted anything here yet...
Cause he's the link to (Supposed) PID Prophet IAAP...

hmm...

As for ARG's, I like 'em. I was involved at the end of the Lost ARG...only problem is the ones in charge were pretty obvious that it was just a game. We haven't seen anything to that extent here...so this wouldn't possibly be classified as an ARG. IF IAAP was just this elaborate, mentally stimulating, take on something that has some substance in the real world, it wouldn't be a game, it would be a blatant lie if they took us this far and didn't say something like "Oh, btw, this is just promotion for our movie, come see it and we hope you had fun, you nerds."

But I guess this will all be worked out during the interview, huh?

[tygrefyfe]

Hmmm a role playing game for real? I'm not so sure, but it's an open idea...I do agree with someone referring to the RA series as like the magical concoction Alister Crowley ( or was that Anton Lavey?) made that tasted like 'rotten apples' and made you hallucinate. These videos are taking on an acid trip like quality. I'd base it all on that theory instead. I'd say that's more a realistic point than a game.

[ithinkiknow]

milesdeo is knowing who (plural too) IAAP is/are REALLY important to understand about Rotten Apple and PID series?

If so, is the REASON he/she/they/it is so important the answer those in the know seek?

[ZeroCorpse]

Just watch: At the end of all this, they're going to say "Thanks for playing! Buy Mountain Dew!" or something.

I dunno. It could be an ARG. It could be a viral campaign. It just doesn't FEEL like one at this point--- Plus this is an AWFUL long time for a viral campaign or ARG to go on, dontchathink?

I'm holding out hope for some reality here.

[horseloverphat]

I do agree with someone referring to the RA series as like the magical concoction Alister Crowley ( or was that Anton Lavey?) made that tasted like 'rotten apples' and made you hallucinate.

Aye...I posted about that 6 months or so back...Crowley's Rites of Eluesis....@caxton Hall....possibly being the inspiration for the 'rotten apple' series.

IAAP series tastes more like rotten cabbages though...

[malus]

My 2 cents...I think you are on the 'rite' path, but coming from the opposite direction, but since the world is round, we both wind up at the same place. Got it?

Myself, I don't believe in anyone, or anything, but I do know that magick is real, and that there is something more to this existence, higher intelligence.

Alternative historians like Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, and the like, tell us that we, Lemurians, are not the first hybrid race the aliens/angels/gods created. First, there was the Atlantians, who rebeled against the "Gods", and were cast out, only to find themselves "sheparding" the more dumbed-down race's evolution. The decendents of the Atlantians being the 'bluebloods', hence the need to keep the bloodlines (Tribes of Israel) intact.

The decendents of these pure-bloods, and those that follow them, are charged with keeping the remains of the knowledge that was lost in the great flood, along with all the technology. They taught us civilization/society, and must also guide our spiritual paths. Solomon, the Sun King, was to build the first multimedia experiance for man, the first temple to the sun.

Through dividing peoples, and harnessing labor for war, our history has been dominated by this. The Templars and their muslim counterparts, the Assassins for the past two thousand years. In WWII, GE owned GM, and
Fiat, Siemens, and Mitubishi, so every tank made profited one single group. People want something to believe in, something they are willing to live/die for. Gives this life more meaning, at least to the profound.

"Cast ye not pearls before swine."-Jesus

Nobody is at this board because they FAIL. We got here because we never gave up the faith, look at things profoundly, and think for ourselves. Nobody backmasked the Tibetian Book of the Dead into the Beatles music because it was just laying around the waiting at the studio, and the boys were bored, and playing a joke.

It is a bit hard to believe that the guys left a little town in England to make it in another country, then left Germany to vist Liverpool as heroes before going on a mission to conquer the US without some help. Murry "The K", sound masonic? K-tell records at K-mart? Funny how the stoner-tripping Beatles were never photographed with so much as a pair of glassy eyes.

So, what happened five hundred years ago, that would change the world as we know it? Hint...What is the connection between 007 and Scotland Yard? Beatles Cartoon - Penny Lane- Paul arranges tour of the Yard of James Blond 007..."The banker waits for a trim, and then the fireman rushes in."

youtube.com/watch?v=5ThLR2ekYQc

Queen Elizabeth (EL), the Virgin Queen, had an illegit kid named Francis Bacon. Bacon was the smartest guy in the world, but unable to take the thrown due to bloodright, rebeled, and was banished to Scotland. Bacon, wrote the plays atributed to Shakespheare, and set up Freemasonry (in America) to establish a control network independant of bloodright.

The Queen also had a magician named Dee, the original 007, because of his abbey "Upton upon Severn", and his ciher. He was her master spy, and had contact with spirits. Now, when I started looking into conspiracy theories, one of the first occult things that I heard was that technology doesn't come from man. Most people can't change a tire, nobody can make or explain a LCD tv, and that big companies had underground multi-sided rooms where entities are conjoured up and technology is given. I kept and open mind, and I believe it to be true.007, always has technology in the movies beyond anything even the military has.

Building "Seven" on the Microsoft campaus is not on any map, and rumored to be underground. Within one hundred years, England went from having Kings shivering in windowless castles, to greenhouses and Botony in manacured gardens. The 'Rebirth' of the Atlantis technology.

Dee, asked for help getting off this planet, bounded by the Van Allen Radiation Belt. His reply, was three things needed to be achieved:

1. Energy created from matter
2. Matter created from energy
3. The silicon revolution

And so a plan was put into place, one that would carry through the ages. If the Freemasons could build a Church in 150 years, they could carry out a plan thru generations. With the technology, they could rule the world. They set up "Universe-cities" to bring occult wisdom to other countries, only opening their doors to the public in the last century. The Black Arts became the Black Ops.

The Black Arts became the Black Ops. Funding came from illegal sources like the Opium trade, Pirates flying under the 'Black Flag' of 'Skull and Bonesmen", stealing from ships, after being tipped off by the insurance carriers. Take the money and run Rum from the Carribean Isles base camp. Order out of Chaos, they sell the guns, the home insurance, the mortage, the Brinks security system,...always enough crime to warrent the need. Why?

Because we are here to experience both good and bad, and the Freemasons have set up this "reality" where you can go to this Disneyland NWO and experience their "reality".They wrote the books, control the media, sure we have YouTube, but so what? Bimbos on every magazine cover, and entertainment news. They took the story of Moses and created Superman with the Powers of Apollo, Hercules, and Mercury, dumbed-down for the delinguents of the New World Order. Our Gods wear spandex. So let the more primative go with the Rolling Stones, we are the few still at this game, because we are the ones with the real class. And, we are here for a reason, or this is all a mistake.

It is like an Alternate Reality Game, but the reality that most cling to is just an illusion created to enslave them. They disempowered unworthy masses, and the few Adapts, those that can accept and adapt, can move through symbolism to enlightenment.

Magic is real. Creation is magic. The Garnish Particle sparks life through sound and light. After a while you either see the magic, and it remotivates you, or you give up. You can find enlightenment through something else, but not as intense. Some just can't handle the truth.

This country was founded with the purpose of establishing a military industrial complex to rule the world and bring in the NWO. The monies are taken to fund black projects to regain the lost technolgy of Atlantis. The Britsh retook control through the Federal Reverve, banrupting the US, and using the US to rebuild the world. Once Israel was established, the US has changed. The Beatles being the beginning of British control of US media. Mass brainwashing. How do you sell/promote european/foreign goods to a bunch of americans two decades after WWII? Make them lust for foreign products? Jet-set Gods.

Paul has the Red Rose in his mouth, signifing that he is bound to silence by the Rosecusians. The Rosecusians preserve all the magical knowledge of Egypt bought together under the roof of the British Museum and translated by McGregor Mathews, who tried to put together a new system. They failed in that the world wasn't ready, so in 1865 they said to try gain in 100 years...Crowley prepared the world. Columbus (Chirst Columbia) had the Rose Cruz/Red Cross on his sails. The Templars had it on their shields, Rot Shield/Rothchild.

The Beatles helped bring about the death of religions like Christianity, and set back others in the eyes of their followers. They brought the NEW ROCK GODS to the new world. The evidence would suggest that they had help from the Rothchild bankers, as they use the same system of magic. Francis rewrote the English langusge through Shakespeare, and added Kabalah to the mix, which is why word-play is so magical in English. As every generation before, higher knowledge is encoded into the art of the day. The profound see one reality, while the Adapts see another.

Our reality is not real. Maybe, we didn't go to the moon, or maybe Chris Columbus was a Greek prince according to Manly P. Hall, whom Paul Mccartney was in contact with, as Paul was interested in Francis Bacon. Maybe all religion is made up, and we are depowered, and resold self-empowerment through materialism and the media, instead of magic. The church was the state of the art mulimedia show up until recently. The NWO will have the bankers saying look to us for the solutions, for we have been pulling your strings forever, and you like it. Some will even die to protect it. All that human sacrifice on the 'Solomon' Islands in WWII, and along the 33rd parralel (Kennedy- 11/22 on the 33rd in Texas).

Man needs a personal God, a God as man. Pick one. Any one. As long as it is one of ours. Magic on an industrial scale. Cue applause. 'Pan' back camera.

www.panavision.com/

Keep an open mind!!!!!

Virtual Vault of the Adepti of the Golden Dawn
youtube.com/watch?v=LHqsVcE40Kw

[skyward]

May 11, 2008 9:18:13 GMT -5 malus said:

My 2 cents...I think you are on the 'rite' path, but coming from the opposite direction, but since the world is round, we both wind up at the same place. Got it?

Myself, I don't believe in anyone, or anything, but I do know that magick is real, and that there is something more to this existence, higher intelligence.

Alternative historians like Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, and the like, tell us that we, Lemurians, are not the first hybrid race the aliens/angels/gods created. First, there was the Atlantians, who rebeled against the "Gods", and were cast out, only to find themselves "sheparding" the more dumbed-down race's evolution. The decendents of the Atlantians being the 'bluebloods', hence the need to keep the bloodlines (Tribes of Israel) intact.
...

Nice post Malus, I think this is what Jarvitronics was asking for about a month or so ago when you first came aboard and he felt you were spamming the forum with links without adding your own expression or analysis.

[B]

And the answer, for $500, is?

Interesting hodge-podge of material, Malus, but where did you ever get the idea that we are Lemurians?
Every book I've ever read on the matter of pre-history says the Lemurians came before the
Atlanteans. It is my understanding that we are them pretty much (the Atlanteans), reincarnated, and
in bodies that are notably different in construct and manifestation, but following a
parallel path of unfoldment, and not very much like the Lemurians at all. (For what it's worth.)

Malus wrote:

"This country was founded with the purpose of establishing a military industrial complex to rule
the world and bring in the NWO."

If you are refering to the USA, no, it was not! Have you ever read the constitution? What the country
has become is not a bit like what the founding fathers had in mind. Your statement is an insult
to everything they stood for.

Malus wrote:
"The Beatles helped bring about the death of religions like Christianity, and
set back others in the eyes of their followers. They brought the NEW ROCK GODS to the new world.
The evidence would suggest that they had help from the Rothchild bankers..."

Oh please, spare me! That's 100% pure bull.
I know you may believe that, but none of it holds up. Sorry.
I'm not saying you don't have a sense of what's what, but you are mixing apples and oranges.
Here's a maxim from me: When you mix the Beatles in with the wishes of "the new world order"
crowd, you're going off the tracks. Bet on it. They were going in two different directions,
even when Faul was in the group.
I'm sorry if I sound condescending and pig-headed, but the "they" in the line:
"They don't like him, the fool"
is the NWO people, and "the fool", represented by Faul and Paul, is their enemy. Take it from there.
I would go along with your comment about bringing "the NEW ROCK GODS to the new world".
Paul/Faul wasn't "Apollo C Vermouth" for nothing. Would you know Apollo if you ran into him?
Or Thor, or Zeus, or even Matthew, Mark, Luke or John?
No? But you would know John, George, Paul or Ringo, wouldn't you. And Billy JOEL.
Meet the new "gods", same as the old "gods".

[malus]

The Rothchild family paid McGregor Matthews to do the research at the British Museum. The Rothchilds where the money behind the founding of the Golden Dawn. The Golden Dawn sytem of magic is the basis for Crowley's Magick, mixing Hindu Trantric sex and drugs into the mix. The Beatles follow Crowley. Hense, they are nothing more than glorified drug company spokespersons used by black-ops for social engineering.

Lilly:

"In 1953 the Central Intelligence Agency gave Eli Lilly Company a $400,000 grant to manufacture and supply lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) for the CIA. This was the first mass production of the chemical, and was used by a branch of the CIA known as MKULTRA."

source:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Lilly_and_Company

[vince]

Has anybody checked that ADRESS on Ocean Ave. that was next to Ringo's?

[iburiedpaul]

There is no question this an ARG. However, the switch comes when you realize that life itself is an ARG game. We all accept a specific version of reality. If anyone questions that reality they are called crazy and/or conspiracy theorists and dismissed immediately. But as Letter B hinted at above, the fact that this is an ARG doesn't take away from the validity of what is being said, as paradoxical as it seems. It is entirely possible that a lot of what took place happened on a level the people involved didn't consciously understand. For example, there the article that suggests that backwards speech happens when people are under stress - the secret message being concealed from the conscious mind.

www.reversespeech.com/stud_holo.htm

It's like an Edgar Allan Poe story. There are several Poe stories with that theme but William Wilson is a great example. Will I Am Will's Son. It's a double story. PID/PWR is also a double story regardless of whether Faul actually exists or not. In William Wilson, the narrator is followed around and turned in on a scam by another guy (which turns out to be himself).

www.online-literature.com/poe/47/

[malus]

The devil can only exist in a world of secrets and lies...

The Church of Satan/Temple of Set teach that Horus and Set (Satan) were one and the same. I believe this may be the true origin of the two headed phoenix. Set, had self-realization. He thought that Horus was an idiot for losing his eye, and laughing, and joking about like fool, always wanting to be accepted by the group. He wanted to be separate from Horus, and the group, and so he was 'cast' out. Free to do and think as he pleased. It is only in modern times, with christians wanting to be accepted and rightous, that Satan became assicated with the negative.

We see the same with Paul. Two Pauls. One having self-realization, and wanting to control the Beatles instead of being in a group. The symbolic death of the old, and the new improved version in living colour. Just as the artists of the past encoded sacred information into their works of art, the processs continues in the modern age. Different 'mediums', but film is just light and sound vibration captured on plastic, and it is the giver of illumination. It is the Nouveau Temple du Soleil.

If people are going so sit and stare into an album cover while the music plays, give then some lyrics to read, and some pictures to look at...add a dose of mystism and magic, so the viewer doesn't walk away empty.



www.cardinalproproducts.com/insects.htm#Drugstore%20beetle

[malus]

Michael A. Aquino (born October 18, 1946) was one of the founders of the Temple of Set, a splinter group from Anton Szandor LaVey's Church of Satan which he had joined in 1969.

He holds the title of Lt. Colonel, Military Intelligence, U.S. Army (Retired) according to his CV.

Michael Aquino wrote the paper "From Pysch-Ops to Mind War".

Lilith Aquino (formally Patricia Sinclair), is a famous Setian, and a former member of the Church of Satan.

She moved to New York and began a minor career as a model and became the proprietor of "The Magician" an occult bookstore.

Aquino joined the famous Church of Satan during the early 1970s and quickly became a High Profile member of the organization.

She founded the Lilith Grotto in New York City, the most numerically successful Grotto of the Church of Satan and appeared on numerous television and radio programs, even being interviewed by Time magazine.

During the 1975 division in the Church of Satan, Lilith (by this point a Priestess in the Church) departed from that organization and became a founding member of The Temple of Set along with her future husband Michael Aquino.

Colonel Eli Lilly (July 8, 1838 – June 6, 1898) was a soldier, pharmaceutical chemist, and industrialist, founder of the eponymous Eli Lilly and Company pharmaceutical corporation. The company has grown to be one of the largest and most influential pharmaceutical companies in the world, offering key pharmaceutical products in almost every key therapeutic area. In 2005, the company registered global revenues of $14.6 billion.

Eli Lilly and Company (NYSE: LLY) is a global pharmaceutical company and one of the world's largest corporations. Eli Lilly's global headquarters is located in Indianapolis, Indiana, in the United States. The company was founded in 1876 by a pharmaceutical chemist, Eli Lilly, after whom the company was ultimately named.

In 1953 the Central Intelligence Agency gave Eli Lilly Company a $400,000 grant to manufacture and supply lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) for the CIA. This was the first mass production of the chemical, and was used by a branch of the CIA known as MKULTRA.

oneheartbooks.com/resources/white_papers/satanic_subversion_military.pdf


There's always free cheese...

Coming down fast (Thanks yhshvh10 for the heads-up!)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJhBaNzMZZA