Jacobthelema
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Sweet dreams, came true...today.....came true
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Post by Jacobthelema on May 8, 2008 4:28:39 GMT -5
If only he could have channeled his energy into love, not hate. If someone could of recognized his talent, Society could have gained an amazing artist and a beautiful soul, not a monster.
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Post by George Spiggott on May 8, 2008 10:54:17 GMT -5
With the childhood Manson had, I'd be very surprised if he was capable of feeling, or expressing love., he said as much himself, in interview
People did recognize his talent.
To some, he was/is a beautiful soul, it's the media that created/hyped up the "monster" image.
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epe123
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Post by epe123 on May 10, 2008 22:34:57 GMT -5
I have one of his CD's. Have not listened to it yet. Can not bring myself to. HA!
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Post by George Spiggott on May 18, 2008 12:24:33 GMT -5
Some Manson related music;
"All the Way Alive" by Charles Manson. This is Manson's 1967 demo recordings before he recorded "Lie."
"Lie: The Love and Terror Cult" by Charles Manson. This is the famous album with the cover that looks like the Life magazine cover. The copyrights are supposedly owned by Phil Kaufman but he says he doesn't receive any money. I'd assume all copies are probably bootlegs except the original 1970 pressings.
"Family Jams" by the Manson Family. This was apparently recorded during the trials. The songs were written by Manson but he didn't perform on this double-CD. Clem (Steve Grogan) steps in for Manson, though. Many other Family members also sing and perform.
"Commemoration" by Charles Manson. Various songs secretly recorded by Manson in prison. Available on WhiteDevilRecords.com.
"Manson Speaks" by Charles Manson. A CD of Manson speaking on various topics.
"The Beatles" by The Beatles., commonly known as "The White Album" was supposedly greatly influenced the Family.
"20/20" by The Beach Boys. This one has the Manson song "Cease to Exist" (under the title "Never Learn Not to Love") with some lyric changes.
Bobby Beausoleil:
NEW "Lucifer Rising" by Bobby Beausoleil. A soundtrack to Kenneth Anger's film recorded in prison. This also contains a second disc of rarities including Beausoleil's early work with Orkustra and the Magick Powerhouse of Oz, along with outtakes from the prison sessions.
Somewhat Related: Everyone and his brother seems to have written a song related to Charles Manson. It's impossible to list all of them here. Some are by well known groups and some are by unknowns. Here are some of the more important/interesting:
"On the Beach" by Neil Young. This one has a song called "Revolution Blues" which seems to be about the Manson Family. Interestingly, one of Manson's followers was reportedly a groupie of Buffalo Springfield. Another Young song ("Mansion on the Hill") is rumored to be about Manson, also. Neil Young once said of Manson "He had this kind of music that nobody else was doing. He would sit down with a guitar and start playing and making up stuff, different every time. It just kept comin' out, comin' out. Then he would stop and you would never hear that one again. Musically, I thought he was very unique. I thought he had something crazy, something great. He was like a living poet."
"The Manson Family: An Opera" by John Moran. An opera about Manson?! At the Lincoln Center? Strange and interesting..
"The Spaghetti Incident" by Guns N' Roses. This originally had an unlisted 13th song at the very end which was written by Manson. Apparently newer copies have removed the Manson song. There was a big stink over this due to Manson possibly making money off of it (he had written the material before the murders and after he had been released from prison). Charlie could have made $62,000 for every million copies sold, but in the end, it was decided the money would go to Frykowski's son (who has passed away since, so proceeds now go to Frykowski's grandchildren). Axl Rose has appeared in concert (and the video "Estranged") wearing a Manson t-shirt.
"The Downward Spiral" by Nine Inch Nails. Partially recorded in the living room of the Tate murder house. This home "studio" is credited as "Le Pig of Beverly Hills." Songs include "Piggy" and "March of the Pigs." Recall that the word "PIG" was written in blood on the front door of this house...
"Broken" by Nine Inch Nails. A video was filmed in the Tate house of the song "Gave Up" (which appears on this EP) and it appears on the video "Closure". Also note, that Trent Reznor (who is Nine Inch Nails), started his own record label and quickly signed up Marilyn Manson.
"Assassins" by Stephen Sondheim. This musical soundtrack includes "Unworthy of Your Love" by Greg Germann which is partially about Fromme's admiration and devotion to Manson.
"Portrait of an American Family" by Marilyn Manson. Well, this band is named after Marilyn Monroe and Charles Manson. To top it off, this includes "My Monkey" which steals four lines of lyrics from Charlie's "Mechanical Man."
"Toxicity" by System of a Down. Includes "ATWA" which is about Manson. The album's booklet also has a "thanks" to him. The CD booklet has photos of the band in the studio. In the background you can see a Manson poster.
"Creator" by Lemonheads. A remake of Manson's "Your Home is Where You're Happy" is included. There's also a Manson photo and various thank-you's to infamous Family members.
"Lovey" by Lemonheads. This one has "Ballarat" which is reportedly about Manson. Group member Evan Dando even posed on MTV's "120 Minutes" holding a copy of Manson's album.
"No Rest for the Wicked" by Ozzy Osbourne. Contains "Bloodbath in Paradise" which is about Manson.
"Kill Eugene" by Eugene Chadbourne. This album features references to Charlie as well as a song called "How can You Kill Me, I'm Already Dead", the lyrics of which are from an entire Manson speech.
"Tin Omen" by Skinny Puppy. This song contains many Manson samples ("The police used to watch over the people, now they're watchin' the people", etc...).
"Cielo '69" by The Jackalopes is all about Manson. The chorus: "Come on down Cielo Drive, We'll all have a great ol' time, Hack everybody into little pieces and throw 'em all outside..." The singer also wears t-shirts bearing Charlie's face, one which reads, "Remember Kids, Charlie Loves you" on the front and "Role-Model for Today's Youth" on back and another that says "Official Member: Charlie Fan-club" as well as one that looks like the 70's TV show Charlie's Angels' logo with "They work for me, my name's Charlie!"
White Zombie uses a lot of Manson quotes and related subject matter (Rob Zombie always puts an X on his forehead as well as the foreheads of his cartoon drawings). The most notable example is on their album "Astro Creep-2000" in the song "Real Solution #9", where they use a quote from Patricia Krenwinkel from her interview with Diane Sawyer ("I'm already dead...").
"You Give Love a Bad Name" by GG Allin and the Holy Men contains a cover of Manson's "Garbage Dump" (Allin also wore a leather jacket in his early years with a big Manson face on back).
Phil Anselmo of Pantera wears Charles Manson T-shirts onstage as well as prison-style blue button-down shirts with the name tag Manson and Charlie's prison number.
"Worlock" by Skinny Puppy. A song on their '89 (20th anniversary of Tate/LaBianca) album entitled "Rabies". Although the title may be a reference to Manson, the midpoint of the song is marked by a sample of Charles Manson himself singing "Helter Skelter" with Al Jourgensen (of Ministry) playing the main guitar riff.
"Charlie's Family" by Download. The soundtrack to the Jim VanBebber film of the same name. Both a film and soundtrack that tells the tale of the family during their time together (not including Charlie himself, although he is in the film).
"Born Innocent" by Redd Kross. Includes a remake of Manson's "Cease to Exist" plus another song entitled "Charlie".
"Dreams Less Sweet" by Psychic TV. In 1983, they remade Manson's "Never Say Never to Always" under the new title "Always is Always." 1983 Some Bizarre Records. On another album they did a song called "Roman P."
"Bad Moon Rising" by Sonic Youth. This includes the song "Death Valley 69" about you know who. This song was recorded with Lydia Lunch.
"The Crow" by Various Artists. The movie soundtrack includes "After the Flesh" by "My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult." The band's name could easily be inspired by the Manson Family. The song begins with a piece of an interview by Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme. (manson family member)
"Burn Baby Burn" by The Electric Hellfire Club. Includes "Black Bus," a song apparently inspired by Manson and crew.
Numerous other titles by many other artists have allegedly been inspired by Manson & the family, (obviously too many to detail here.) The above refs have been confirmed by various sources. There's also been a suggestion of backmasking having been used on Manson's music., I'll try & find the link & post here.
Sourced from charliemanson.com, & "Helter Skelter" by Vincent Bugliosi with Curt Gentry, rhapsody radish.com
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