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Post by iameye on May 9, 2008 21:06:26 GMT -5
From Roman Ram  These would be the same things that wrap the UN logo, the Laurels of Apollo? References to Queen Nefertiti's headdress could mean she had an egghead, or oversized cranium (like Crowley's Aiwass).  These would be the same things that wrap the UN logo, the Laurels of Apollo? References to Queen Nefertiti's headdress could mean she had an egghead, or oversized cranium (like Crowley's Aiwass). wow mal, very good eye. This is really something... note the ends of the wreath touch the temples, also. stream of consciousness:  three temples on Pepper. Why? is the space btwn the temples the third temple? Unfinished solomon's temple? all that masonic crap, the C moon? the space btwn , the widows mother? Black swan? the star? the wings of the pheonix? hmmmm Laurels of Apollo? I'll have to look that up.... laurel leaves, bay leaves big in roman culture, also. . the Vulcan hearth is the Aries, the ram. the twin freaks, the United Artists logo....yellow submarine. "References to Queen Nefertiti's headdress could mean she had an egghead, or oversized cranium (like Crowley's Aiwass)."or perhaps she desired to emulate the condition in respect for some ideal or event. Flat head indians used to do press their heads like this. under construction encyclopedia.jrank.org/LAP_LEO/LAUREL.html |
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Post by FAUllibLE on May 10, 2008 10:48:30 GMT -5
 When I think of queen of cosmania, she comes to mind. |
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Post by skyward on May 10, 2008 10:55:24 GMT -5
When I think of queen of cosmania, she comes to mind. Has anyone perused this article re:Wizard of Oz, Baum, Blavatsky, Aiwass, etc.... link to article |
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Post by iameye on May 10, 2008 11:35:36 GMT -5
In the story, Apollo, god of prophecy, sees the young Cupid, god of love, playing with his bow and arrows and remarks, "What have you to do with warlike weapons, saucy boy? Leave them for hands worthy of them."[1] In retribution for this reproach, Cupid wounds Apollo with a golden arrow, causing him to fall in love with the nymph daughter of the river God Peneus. Cupid additionally wounds the beautiful nymph Daphne, with a lead arrow, thus insuring she would not be wooed by Apollo's advances. (In fact, the arrows power was so strong that Daphne forthwith refused all of her lovers.) Regardless of her father Peneus's requests for a son-in-law and grandchildren, Daphne begs to remain unmarried and he grudgingly consents.
Apollo, struck with the golden arrow of love, pleads with Daphne to fulfill his desire. Daphne, repulsed by the idea, begins to flee. Even as she runs, he is more captivated by her beauty. Apollo grows impatient and soon, sped by Cupid, gains on her. With slower speed and failing strength, Daphne cries out to her father just as Apollo captures her. Not a moment later, Daphne's skin turns to bark, her hair leaves, her arms branches, her feet roots, and her face a treetop. In only a moment, Peneus protects his daughter by turning her into a laurel tree. After the transformation Apollo still embraces the tree. He cuts off some of her branches and leaves to make a wreath and proclaims the laurel as a sacred tree.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_and_Daphne_(Bernini)   stan laurel on Pepper.......  
In Chinese folklore there is a great laurel tree on the moon, and the Chinese name for the laurel, 月桂, literally translates to "moon-laurel". This is the subject of a story of Wu Gang, a man who aspired to immortality and neglected his work. When the deities discovered this they sentenced Wu Gang to fell the laurel tree, whereupon he could join the ranks of the deities; however, since the laurel regenerated immediately when cut, it could never be felled. The phrase 吴刚伐木 ("Wu Gang felling the tree") is sometimes used to refer to endless toil, analogous to Sisyphus in Greek mythology.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_laurelThe bay laurel was carried to North America by the early colonists . This laurel is generally held to be the Daphne of the ancients, though Lindley, following Gerard (Herball, 1597, p . 761), asserted that the Greek Daphne was Ruscus racemosus . Among the Greeks the laurel was sacred to Apollo, especially in connexion with Tempe, in whose laurel groves the god himself obtained purification from the blood of the Python . This legend was dramatically represented at the Pythian festival once in eight years, a boy fleeing from Delphi to Tempe, and after a time being led back with song, crowned and adorned with laurel . Similar Sadivriq opiat were known elsewhere in Greece . Apollo, himself purified, was the author of purification and atonement to other penitents, and the laurel was the symbol of this power, which came to be generally associated with his person and sanctuaries . The relation of Apollo to the laurel was expressed in the legend of Daphne (q.v.) . The victors in the Pythian games were crowned with the laurels of Apollo, and thus the laurel became the symbol of triumph in Rome as well as in Greece . As Apollo was the god of poets, the Laurea Apollinaris naturally belonged to poetic merit (see LAUREATE) . The various prerogatives of the laurel among the ancients are collected by Pliny (Hist . Nat. xv . 30) . It was a sign of truce, like the olive branch; letters announcing victory and the arms of the victorious soldiery were garnished with it; it was thought that lightning could not strike it, and the emperor Tiberius always wore a laurel wreath during thunder-storms . From its association with the divine power of purification and protection, it was often set before the door of Greek houses, and among the Romans it was the guardian of the gates of the Caesars (Ovid, Met. i . 562 sq.) . The laurel worn by Augustus and his successors had a miraculous history: the laurel grove at the imperial villa by the ninth milestone on the Flaminian way sprang from a shoot sent from heaven to Livia Drusilla (Sueton . Galba, i.) . Like the olive, the laurel was forbidden to profane use . It was employed in divination; the crackling of its leaves in the sacred flame was a good omen (Tibull. ii . 5 . 81), and their silence unlucky (Propert. ii . 21); and the leaves when chewed excited a prophetic afflatus (3acbvl74ayoi, cf . Tibull. ii . 5 . 63) . There is a poem enumerating the ancient virtues of the laurel by J . Passeratius (1594) . The last of the plants mentioned above under the name of laurel is the so-called spurge laurel (Daphne Laureola) . This and one other species (D . Mezereum), the mezereon, are the sole representatives of the family Thymelaeaceae in Great Britain .http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/LAP_LEO/LAUREL.html ***** here's the interesting part: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afflatus A fflatus is a Latin term derived from Cicero (in On Divination) that has been translated as "inspiration." Cicero's usage was a literalizing of "inspiration," which had already become figurative. Literally, "inspiration," like "afflatus," means "to be blown into" by a divine wind. As "inspiration" came to mean simply the gathering of a new idea, Cicero reiterated the idea of a rush of unexpected breath, a powerful force that would render the poet helpless and unaware of its origin.
In English, "afflatus" is used for this literal form of inspiration. It generally refers not to the usual sudden originality, but to the staggering and stunning blow of a new idea, an idea that the recipient may be unable to explain. In Romantic literature and criticism, in particular, the usage of "afflatus" was revived for the mystical form of poetic inspiration tied to "genius", such as the story Coleridge offered for the composition of Kubla Khan. The frequent usage of the Aeolian harp as a symbol for the poet was a play on the renewed emphasis on afflatus.
what was the Jack the ripper note? about the "leaves"? I'm super busy this weekend, but will look later.
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Post by B on May 10, 2008 13:54:39 GMT -5
When I think of queen of cosmania, she comes to mind. Has anyone perused this article re:Wizard of Oz, Baum, Blavatsky, Aiwass, etc.... link to articleExcellent article, skyward. Thanks for pointing it out. Blavatsky as the "queen of cosmania" may be a stretch, though. She was no slouch, that's for sure, and the title may fit, but I think to call her that would just muddy the waters for 99% of the people here. (I'd like to say more, but I am sworn to silence regarding Madame B.) |
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Post by skyward on May 11, 2008 10:28:22 GMT -5
Has anyone perused this article re:Wizard of Oz, Baum, Blavatsky, Aiwass, etc.... link to articleDescent article, but moot... If I've said it once, I've said it at least 6 times (the topic doesn't come up much). LAM IS NOT AIWASS. Lam is the egghead alien-guy, Crowley never saw AIWASS he just felt him over his shoulder while he dictated the Book of the Law to him. The drawing might be a depiction of LAM, I don't know myself who Crowley was drawing, but even still, I wouldn't say that it renders the article moot. Crowley's work article"Crowley describes Aiwaz as “…an Intelligence possessed of power and knowledge absolutely beyond human experience; and therefore Aiwaz is a Being worthy, as the current use of the word allows, of the title of a God…”
"...The voice was of deep timbre, musical and expressive, its tones solemn, voluptuous, tender, fierce or aught else as suited the moods of the message. Not bass – perhaps a rich tenor or baritone…" Even if the picture does not accurately depict the 'image' of Aiwaz/Aiwass, the description of the 'being' matches the basic portrayal of Oz in the movie... And if the intention was to place an image of Oz in the smoke, then why not choose the next best thing? Lam? Seeing that there weren't any images of Aiwass. (As far as we know) And the article is not built around the the image of LAM or the presence of Aiwaz/Aiwass, it is a much more detailed examination of the entire movie and its symbolic nature. |
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Post by skyward on May 11, 2008 10:41:41 GMT -5
And this: It's sea-org's logo, quit reading TOO DEEP! It has nothing to do with ancient Egypt, Nefertiti, or the olive branches. And where did Hubbard come up with the idea to use the laurels? Hubbard has links with Crowley:Egypt. |
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Post by iameye on May 11, 2008 14:36:36 GMT -5
[quote author="@ [" timestamp="1210296484" source="/post/59658/thread"] (See moon?)  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfen_%28film%29This isn't meant as a serious post, but who knows?[/quote] I dunno either, but one thing to note about "C Moon" and the eye logos posted is it's immediate visual image. A "C" is the unclosed circle, a pinch, really, as there is vacant space between the ends of the "c" like here:  and even here as a modern world wide phenomenon:  and here for historical reference  "we learned it from an Eastern Bird"  the gate? And this: It's sea-org's logo, quit reading TOO DEEP! It has nothing to do with ancient Egypt, Nefertiti, or the olive branches. And where did Hubbard come up with the idea to use the laurels? Hubbard has links with Crowley:Egypt. Tessellation? www.thedigitalfreemason.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=64&Itemid=30en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessellation mathpuzzle.com/Tessel.htmTessellations can be created by performing one or more of three basic operations, translation, rotation and reflection, on a polyiamond |
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Post by iameye on May 11, 2008 21:42:08 GMT -5
Descent article, but moot... interesting article, not 100% moot. socash wrote: "It's sea-org's logo, quit reading TOO DEEP! It has nothing to do with ancient Egypt, Nefertiti, or the olive branches. "we really don't know much about what they were doing out at sea, but it probably wasn't for "the deadliest catch"........... The Sea Organization derives its name from its beginnings in 1967 when Mr. Hubbard, having retired from his position as Executive Director International, set to sea with a handful of veteran Scientologists to continue his research into the upper levels of spiritual awareness and ability.
The first Sea Org members, who were all Clears and OTs, formulated a one-billion-year pledge to symbolize their commitment to the religion as immortal spiritual beings. It is signed by all members today. They dedicate themselves to the goal of bringing spiritual freedom to all beings through the full application of Mr. Hubbard’s technologies. The Sea Organization was born of a concern for the welfare of mankind — and it is with this viewpoint that members of the Sea Org continue to operate. www.whatisscientology.org/html/Part06/Chp26/index.html |
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Post by iameye on Jul 24, 2008 9:13:48 GMT -5
Eye of Newt how many times have we heard that phrase invoking images of witches gathered around a cauldron? and, most likely, like me, you thought it meant "newt", a salamander. When will I see you? My salamander.... but really, they are talking about Nuit, the Queen of Cos-mania, queen of the night sky Nuit represents the infinitely-expanded circle whose circumference is unmeasurable and whose center is everywhere (whereas Hadit is the infinitely small point within the core of every single thing). According to Thelemic doctrine, it is the interaction between these two cosmic principles that creates the manifested universe similar to the gnostic syzygy. from the First Chapter of Liber Legis: "Every man and every woman is a star." "Come forth, o children, under the stars, & take your fill of love!" "For I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NuitLeila fem. proper name, from Arabic Laylah, lit. "dark as night," from laylah "night." "The name "Lily", transliterated to Hebrew, adds up to the same numerical value as does "Nuith", the name of the Egyptian goddess of the night sky, & of the Queen of Infinite Space who is the personification of the Infinite in the spiritual philosophy of Thelema. "Nuit" is French for "night", & "Lily" is related to "Laylah", the Hebrew & Arabic word for the night sky." tbc - later |
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jul 24, 2008 10:15:26 GMT -5
Speaking of Apollo...Apollo is considered to have dominion over plague, light, healing, colonists, medicine, archery, poetry, prophecy, dance, reason, intellectualism, Shamans, and as the patron defender of herds and flocks. Apollo had a famous oracle in Crete and other notable ones in Clarus and Branchidae. Apollo is known as the leader of the Muses ("musagetes") and director of their choir. His attributes include: swans, wolves, dolphins, bows and arrows, a laurel crown, the cithara (or lyre) and plectrum. The sacrificial tripod is another attribute, representative of his prophetic powers. The Pythian Games were held in his honor every four years at Delphi. Paeans were the name of hymns sung to Apollo. The most usual attributes of Apollo were the lyre and the bow; the tripod especially was dedicated to him as the god of prophecy. Among plants, the bay, used in expiatory sacrifices and also for making the crown of victory at the Pythian games, and the PALM-tree, under which he was born...  among animals and birds, the wolf, the roe, the swan, the hawk, the raven, the crow, the snake, the mouse, the grasshopper and the griffin, a mixture of the eagle and the lion evidently of Eastern origin."
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jul 24, 2008 10:36:44 GMT -5
Has anyone perused this article re:Wizard of Oz, Baum, Blavatsky, Aiwass, etc.... link to articleExcellent article, skyward. Thanks for pointing it out. Blavatsky as the "queen of cosmania" may be a stretch, though. She was no slouch, that's for sure, and the title may fit, but I think to call her that would just muddy the waters for 99% of the people here. (I'd like to say more, but I am sworn to silence regarding Madame B.)
Your theory of multiple Pauls through the ages has really got me thinking.
Could a previous incarnation of Paul have been Frank Baum?"Frank Baum, the author of The Wizard of Oz was a member of the Theosophical Society(which he and his wife joined in 1896). L. Frank Baum lived in South Dakota and created The Wizard of Oz book as a theosophical fairy tale incorporating the "ancient wisdom" of the Mystery Religions. The books have so much material from inside the secret world of the Illuminati, that the few who understand the Illuminati wonder if Baum wasn't an insider. There are so many occult and drug references in the movie and books that various groups have tried to ban them." And:"Now somewhere in the black mining hills of DakotaThere lived a young boy named Rocky Raccoon" And of course, the Black Hills are in SOUTH Dakota.And more from our friend Roger Waters:SUNSET STRIP: I like staying with my Uncle Dave And i like playing with his great dane But I don't fit I feel alien and strange, Kinda outa range I like riding in my Uncle's car Down to the beach where the pretty girls all parade And movie stars and paparazzi play The Charles Atlas kicking sand in the face game "And I sit in the canyon with my back to the sea There's a blood red dragon on a field of green Calling me back Back to the Black Hills again Ooh, ooh, Billy come homeBilly is searching for his native land Flicking through the stations with the dial in his head Picking up -------------- and A male voice choir on the short wave band Billy taps out Jim's number on the 'phone Sits shaking as he waits for Jim's answering tone Come on my friend, speak to me please The land of my fathers is calling to me And I sit in the canyon with my back to the sea There's a blood red dragon on a field of green Calling me back, back to the Black Hills again Ooh, ooh, Billy come homeCome on home He sits in the canyon with his back to the sea Sees a blood red dragon on a field of green He hears a male voice choir singing Billy come homeBilly, Billy, come home
Come on home"And:" Magic Billy in his wheel chairIs picking up all this stuff in the air Billy is face to face with outer space Messages from distant stars The local police calling all cars, radio waves..." And this from the Radio Kaos synopsis:" Billy is confined to a wheelchair and is thought to be mentally a vegetable. However, Billy is highly intelligent but has no way of expressing himself. Billy has a twin brother Benny who is a coal miner. Billy lives with Benny, Molly his wife, and their children. Unfortunately, Benny has lost his job in the mines due to the "market forces". One night, Benny and Billy are out on a pub crawl when they pass a shop full of TV screens broadcasting Margaret Thatcher's "mocking condescension". Benny vents his anger on this shop and steals a cordless phone. Next, in theatrical fashion, Benny poses on a footbridge in protest to the closures; the same night, a taxi driver is killed by a concrete block dropped from a similar bridge. The police question Benny, who hides the phone in Billy's wheelchair. Benny is taken to prison, and Molly, unable to cope, sends Billy to live with his uncle David in L.A.. Billy is gifted and can hear radio waves in his head ("Radio Waves" track 1), so he begins to explore the cordless phone, recognising its similarity to a radio. He experiments with the phone and is able to access computers and speech synthesisers, he learns to speak through them." |
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jul 25, 2008 22:52:21 GMT -5
Another Roger Waters connection... Not sure why this just flew into my head now, but it just occurred to me that in the song I quoted above (Sunset Strip), the wheelchair-bound character, MAGIC BILLY, moves from the black hills to Los Angeles to stay with his cousin DAVE. I hadn't thought twice about the Dave part until ten minutes ago when it hit me that it might be David Crosby ( thanks again, Letter B). The song also mentions that Dave has a great dane, so I started looking for a David Crosby / great dane connection. It turns out that in the late 60s and early 70s there was a bootleg label from Los Angeles called Trademark of Quality Records. It further turns out that TMOQ put out the following bootlegs: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_Mark_of_Quality71013 CSN&Y Ohio Wooden Nickel 71022 Neil Young At The Los Angeles Music Centre 71024 The Beatles Get Back Sessions 71035 Buffalo Springfield, Neil Young, CSN&Y Springfield Roots 71040 Pink Floyd Moayyad 73018 Paul McCartney James Paul McCartney 73005 David Crosby & Graham Nash A Very Stoney Evening AND PREDICTABLY................... 8205/6 Paul McCartney GREAT DANEAgain, here's the Waters song. SUNSET STRIP I like staying with my Uncle DaveAnd i like playing with his great daneBut I don't fit I feel alien and strange, Kinda outa range I like riding in my Uncle's car Down to the beach where the pretty girls all parade And movie stars and paparazzi play The Charles Atlas kicking sand in the face game And I sit in the canyon with my back to the sea There's a blood red dragon on a field of green Calling me back Back to the Black Hills again
Ooh, ooh, Billy come homeBilly is searching for his native landFlicking through the station with the dial in his head Pickingup--------------and A male voice choir on the short wave band Billy tap's out Jim's number on the 'phone Sits shaking as he waits for Jim's answering tone Come on my friend, speak to me, please the land of my fathers is calling to me And I sit in the canyon with my back to the sea There's a blood red dragon on a field of green Calling me back, back to the Black Hills again
Ooh, ooh, Billy come homeCome on home Hi sits in the canyon with his back to the sea Sees a blood red dragon on a field of green He hears a male voice choir singing Billy come home
Billy, Billy, come homeAnd as Letter B has mentioned, the CSNY video for AMERICAN DREAM features a mysterious wheelchair-bound guy who seems to be hiding out from the press: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABfsIInfXgUand this Julian Lennon video features one of the Beatles (sort of) in a wheelchair: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFLTyedud5w&feature=relatedIt's all as clear as mud now, right? |
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Post by iameye on Jul 26, 2008 22:19:06 GMT -5
from brianberge.livejournal.com/"Let It Be": The Beatles & the Law of Liberty (i.e. of Thelema)
When I find myself in times of trouble
Mother Mary comes to me
The name "Mary" is the English form of the Greek name Maria or Mariam, which is theorized to mean "sea of bitterness". The Sea is also a symbol of Binah & Babalon. "Marie" (or "Mary E", Greek for "Mary herself")
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Wisdom ("Chokmah" in Hebrew) is the sephirah just superior to Binah. Note that the letter L, lambda, spelt in full in Greek adds up to 78. 78 x 2 = 156, the number of Babalon, who (as the next sephirah) is Chokmah self-reflecting. Also this Lambda forms the arms of the left-breaking swastika connected to the letter Aleph, & to Kether. It's also the L of the Logos (the word of wisdom) which is passed down. Descending through the Four Worlds of the Tree of Life it becomes Light, Life, Love & Liberty. This "Liberty" is the repeated "Let it be" of the chorus. It's also the Law of Thelema ("Do what thou wilt") which was delivered in a book originally entitled "Liber L".
And in my hour of darkness
She is standing right in front of me
When an aspirant attains unto the Night of Pan, Marie/Babalon/Binah is right in front of that aspirant.
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Let it be, let it be.
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
And when the broken hearted people
Living in the world agree,
There will be an answer, let it be.
When the single heart behind all conscious beings is realized (instead of the illusion of a heart apparently broken into pieces: one in each being), the necessary conclusion is that we are all in agreement (though most of us misunderstand that fact). The answer to this realization will be Liberty, i.e. judging behavior as "good" or "bad" by convention will prove inferior to qualifying it according to intent, & conflicting intentions will not be punished (as they are now via legal & prison systems) but disciplined only. We will transcend the illusion of there being any absolute "wrong", treated by punishment or execution--Only conflicts of intention resolved through Light, Life & Love, i.e. communication and growth.
For though they may be parted there is
Still a chance that they will see
The illusion in which there appears to be multiple souls (instead of the one that there truly is) will eventually be seen through by human culture.
There will be an answer, let it be.
Let it be, let it be. Yeah
There will be an answer, let it be.
And when the night is cloudy,
There is still a light that shines on me,
Shine on until tomorrow, let it be.
The four worlds are attributed to the four elements. Binah constitutes the world attributed to water. The individual's mind constitutes the world attributed to air. The two elements mixed create a cloud. Even when the Night (another symbol of Binah) is obscured by the veils of the individual's mind, there is still a light conducted down through the Tree of Life, shining into every conscious "me". We may say that in the two macrocosmic worlds, it shines as Light, then as Life. In the two microcosmic worlds, it will continue to shine, manifesting as Love & Liberty ("All You Need Is Love" & "Let It Be"). "Tomorrow", besides referring to the future in general, may also refer to the return of day, that is the return of the Sun to the consciousness (or the consciousness to the Sun). On the Tree of Life, the aspirant's consciousness returns to the central sphere of the individual's mind: Tiphareth (which is symbolized by the Sun).
I wake up to the sound of music
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Parts of crossing the Abyss to Binah are connected to Silence, while the world of the individual's mind is connected to sound. Sound is "music" when some pattern is recognized in the stream of vibrations. "Music" could here be referring to this understanding of the pattern of "sound", "sound" meaning all stimuli in the individual's mind. Ultimately, the pattern of the individual's mind is all there is to the microcosm, and supercedes the illusion of Others. Realizing this is a step toward "waking up", & in this case a step upward toward Binah. The lyricist/singer may be noting that "Mary" comes to "me" in that her light is constituting (& ruling by the Law of Liberty) the whole of the pattern of his mind: She descends into the individual while hallucinating that She is the individual--She comes to "me". The true realizing of this also marks the lyricist/singer's coming to Marie/Babalon/Binah.
Let it be, let it be.
There will be an answer, let it be.
Let it be, let it be,
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be
The whisper may be connected to the dispersing hiss of Choronzon, whose forms are really the "words of wisdom" issued by Marie/Babalon/Binah but misunderstood by the individual's mind (who projects its own personality-illusion upon each one). not on topic, but who cares? |
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