Jude
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Post by Jude on May 19, 2008 19:18:14 GMT -5
If we were to have nominated a 'diplomat' to try to encourage 65if2007 to share his find with another member, the last person I would have chosen is Jude, based on their mutual dislike/loathing. Well I had been waiting for quite some time for someone else to step up to the plate and try to convince him to share the contents with someone. In fact, Mike had brought up the subject and 65if2007 got angry at him for doing so. Yeah it's a shame that I got involved, but seeing as how he was too cheap to even buy a record player I doubt that he would have been very thrilled at the prospect of paying the postage needed to send the briefcase to another state. Did you ever stop and think that 65if may have been handling the content as well as he could? He started with posting pictures of everything he found: briefcase and contents. He posted the video of "the Mask" on YouTube. What's happened is, some of you weren't happy with WHAT YOU FOUND in the information 65if uploaded, and you got pissed at him instead of IAAP for the misdirection. iamaphoney has washed your brains. you are his fanatics. you'll support him till he blows his mind. or till he makes another big mistake. I was interested in what he found, but the misdirection was 65if's and IAAP's. Had he listened to the damn record and had the briefcase examined by an expert then the whole venture wouldn't have been a waste of his time and our expectations. |
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Post by milesdeo on May 19, 2008 19:23:08 GMT -5
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Post by milesdeo on May 19, 2008 19:25:50 GMT -5
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Post by Jude on May 19, 2008 19:37:12 GMT -5
No no no... The misdirection started when IAAP threw the case in a bloody bush for anyone to find! Why don't you question him, Jude? Are you that much brainwashed by his vids? IAAP could have told you the truth, but he through the truth in a bush. That's not 65if's fault... he wanted the same thing you want. If you knew what I know then you'd know why everything is being done this way. It's been a long time coming, this revelation of his. You think you know the truth about what's going on here, but you haven't even scratched the surface. And the more you throw around words like "brainwashed", the less I find it easy to take you seriously. I HAVE questioned Iamaphoney. Everything will be revealed a lot sooner than you think. |
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Post by jarvitronics on May 19, 2008 19:43:32 GMT -5
If you knew what I know then you'd know why everything is being done this way.<snip> Do tell. -j |
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Post by milesdeo on May 19, 2008 19:47:10 GMT -5
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Post by milesdeo on May 19, 2008 20:00:55 GMT -5
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Post by jarvitronics on May 19, 2008 20:19:35 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on May 19, 2008 20:23:38 GMT -5
If you knew what I know then you'd know why everything is being done this way.<snip> Do tell. -j Indeed. I have to admit, I was puzzled by the Jude/65IF feud.. Jude, wouldn't it have been wise to have not antagonized someone who has something you really really want? 65IF showed a lot at the beginning as someone said, wouldn't a bit of encouragement have been better? If there's ever anything IAAP wants to "drop" in the future, choose New England next time, I'll be glad to help, and I'm pretty thick skinned..  |
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Post by FAUllibLE on May 19, 2008 20:24:26 GMT -5
Did I miss the part where he called me a stupid fuck? Do I care? Although I do recall where he told you "You and your cohorts suck", I don't consider myself your cohort. Listen, you can keep on crying and act like you didn't contribute to the current situation or you could use your brain and attempt a sensible solution. So I'm gonna help you out, there is still a chance. First of all your gonna haft to get a grip on your emotional outbursts. Then you would haft to apologize to 65if for being a little retarded. I mean, c'mon did we really need a petition? The next step would be to find a level headed person and have them do some negotiations for you. OK, nows the part where the money talks and the bullshit walks. You better be prepared to stick a big wad of cash in his hand or somehow get him to list it on Ebay, afterall he spent a dime getting it. Other options=continue crying like a big baby or finally get over it someday and say bye bye to suitcase and move on. Any questions?
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Post by JoJo on May 19, 2008 20:26:05 GMT -5
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Post by B on May 19, 2008 20:42:58 GMT -5
Oh my! If there's a bustle in your hedgerow Don't be alarmed now, It's just a spring clean for the May queen. Yes, there are two paths you can go by.... Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow, And did you know Your stairway lies on the whispering wind?  |
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Post by milesdeo on May 19, 2008 21:01:26 GMT -5
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Jude
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Post by Jude on May 19, 2008 21:36:41 GMT -5
Jude, wouldn't it have been wise to have not antagonized someone who has something you really really want? 65IF showed a lot at the beginning as someone said, wouldn't a bit of encouragement have been better? Ah, but who antagonised who first? Did I miss the part where he called me a stupid fuck? Do I care? Although I do recall where he told you "You and your cohorts suck", I don't consider myself your cohort. Listen, you can keep on crying and act like you didn't contribute to the current situation or you could use your brain and attempt a sensible solution. So I'm gonna help you out, there is still a chance. First of all your gonna haft to get a grip on your emotional outbursts. Then you would haft to apologize to 65if for being a little retarded. I mean, c'mon did we really need a petition? The next step would be to find a level headed person and have them do some negotiations for you. OK, nows the part where the money talks and the bullshit walks. You better be prepared to stick a big wad of cash in his hand or somehow get him to list it on Ebay, afterall he spent a dime getting it. Other options=continue crying like a big baby or finally get over it someday and say bye bye to suitcase and move on. Any questions? Was there a shred of truth in what you just wrote, or was it a lot of silly generalisations, insults, and exaggerations? This isn't me "crying like a big baby". Learn how to read between the lines, or better yet READ the lines before you start spouting skyward-fueled BS about emotional outbursts and the like (there is too much bullshit in the PID community for me to be emotional about anything more than personal attacks). Your inability to rightly judge this so-called situation is getting quite old. I expect more ridiculous hyperbole in your next response. If ol' 65 is doing this in retaliation to some stupid fights we had several weeks ago then he's a bigger fool than I thought. He and I had kept our distance for some time. If this is all my fault, then--wow--what delayed reaction. |
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Post by Jude on May 19, 2008 21:45:59 GMT -5
If you knew what I know then you'd know why everything is being done this way.<snip> Do tell. -j Right on cue as always, Jarv. Look, if you're privy to certain secrets why on earth would you share them with just anybody? There are three or four people here who are privy to information that you are not. You can either accept that or blindly assume that because we're not sharing it with you that it must be pure BS. No, keeping a secret does not make that secret BS. All it means is that it's being kept a secret-----for now. |
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Post by milesdeo on May 19, 2008 21:47:56 GMT -5
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Post by Jude on May 19, 2008 21:48:54 GMT -5
Hey Jude... don't make it bad. I'm not. I'm actually not nearly as fazed by all of this as 65if2007 would like me to be. Because if he does harm the contents of the suitcase I know that he's going to regret it one day. That's not a threat----that's a promise. Now prove that you are not part of IAAP. That's easy. Watch my videos. I clearly use different tools than he does, and I consider most of my works to have been nothing more than tributes to him at best. |
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Post by brotherdave on May 19, 2008 21:50:15 GMT -5
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Post by tafultong on May 19, 2008 21:51:20 GMT -5
It was only a month ago when 65if2007 wrote this: "Thank you very much for all of that.
I respect the viewpoints of most people on NIR, including my own, of course.
If I'm at all deserving of the title (the most level-headed poster on that site) that you've bestowed on me, it's probably one that I share with Jude (who is RockXLight on YouTube). " In response to Talalay's: "Incidentally 65if - I don't post on NIR but I read it almost daily and huge respect to you for retrieving the briefcase, you are probably the most level-headed poster on that site and it seems appropriate that you got it. " Then 'hippies' became a topic of discussion and now we seem to have arrived at a far different situation. If we were to have nominated a 'diplomat' to try to encourage 65if2007 to share his find with another member, the last person I would have chosen is Jude, based on their mutual dislike/loathing. It is a shame that someone like Tafultong couldn't get in touch with 65if2007 as Tafultong's blog is well done and I would like to know if there is anything more to be found on the record/LP. Oh well, que sera sera. Thank you, Skyward. That was very kind of you to say. It appears that 65if2007 has stopped communicating with me too. He provided a great deal of information about the suitcase contents when he found it and really went above and beyond to answer my requests, so I feel very differently from his detractors. I'm still a big fan of Iamaphoney and the Rotten Apple series, but other than feeling a bit of envy toward the person who found it, I was never as excited about the briefcase. Maybe something worthwhile will come from it. At least it doesn't seem to be in a landfill yet. If we overlook the angry words, things aren't so bad at moment in terms of the briefcase. At worst, there must be a plan "B." It's possible that a major miscalculation was made, but maybe more of this was scripted than we realize. Who knows? The song you referenced says "Whatever will be, will be" but everybody here knows that "Whatever happened, happened" 40-some years ago. |
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Post by milesdeo on May 19, 2008 21:55:10 GMT -5
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Post by Jude on May 19, 2008 22:02:06 GMT -5
Tafultong too, your RA video that supposedly revealed too much, why do you obey IAAP? He told you, do as thou wilt. The video in question may or may not contain a frame or two that could lead to people figuring something or someone out. It's very brief, and there is very little to go on, but what little is there when compared with a few frames from another Rotten Apple video could spark a few very controversial discussions here. That's all I can say. In fact, I've already said too much and I'll probably hear it from Mike or IAAP now.  Anyone who has seen the video can do their own research and come to their own conclusions. |
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Post by jarvitronics on May 19, 2008 22:07:40 GMT -5
Bye-bye, Mr. Briefcase Guy
Drove my Chevy to the levy but they poked out my eye
And good old boys were spouting lie after lie
Singing, 'This here ain't no mock apple pie'
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Post by milesdeo on May 19, 2008 22:07:52 GMT -5
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Jude
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Post by Jude on May 19, 2008 22:11:53 GMT -5
Hey Jude... don't make it bad do whatever your master tells you. I feel that I have for the most part been quite cordial in my dealings with you, milesdeo. That being said, you're crossing the line of both geniality and good taste. So shut up already. Bye-bye, Mr. Briefcase Guy Drove my Chevy to the levy but they poked out my eye And good old boys were spouting lie after lie Singing, 'This here ain't no mock apple pie' -j Clever. Only in this case it's Paul's death that we're singing about, and not Buddy Holly's. |
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Post by skyward on May 19, 2008 22:25:53 GMT -5
skyward-fueled BS about emotional outbursts and the like The general feeling within my stated opinions originated around the time where 65if2007 posted his insulting remark about Linda McCartney... mindgames wrote this message at that time, during your head-to-head with 65if2007 here... ---------------------------------------------------- this is how people get killed in the hood. Jude, your a very sensitive, and passionate person, perhaps you need to take a step back now and then and examine if it is worth getting so upset over some of this stuff. Like the April fools joke all that should have rolled off your back like water. I guess what I am saying is toughen up a bit and let some things go.
Did you know Linda McCartney personally?
Regardless of how wrong the other person was in your opinion, can you see why a meat eater might not like Linda McCartney? And quite frankly she was not a beauty, but if you know the truth about her I'd rather hear you defend her and her beliefs than general name calling back and forth. Tell us why she is so great. I don't think that just because some one has died, they are above criticism at the same time I can see how those words have upset you. But I just think your too sensitive sometimes. I know because I have had to toughen up myself and let things go. --------------------------------------------- Also, since the QueenofCosmania prank, you and iameye have been at odds off and on at this forum. Anyway, you've mentioned "Ah, but who antagonised who first?" or, in other words, 'Who started it?' as your justification for the continual jabs thrown at 65if2007. Do you think Linda McCartney would have advocated this type of behavior toward someone who insulted her? Sink to that level or rise above it. JoJo had to write this:------------------------------ *Sigh*..
Jarv is right, just didn't think it would continue this long..
I expect "neener neener" is coming up next.
OK, today, April 23 2008 is the day it stops.
Sorry if this sounds paternal, but I don't care who started it..
From now on, I'll start using the moderator bag of tricks, which may possibly include locking threads, warnings, and possibly a day long vacation from NIR.
Both parties should lay down their weapons, and find other interests here, there's plenty of clues to analyze for example, right?
Thanks for your consideration.------------------------------------------------ This is a post that addresses the comment: "skyward-fueled BS about emotional outbursts" and why I don't consider that it is BS. |
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Anyone who has seen the video can do their own research and come to their own conclusions.