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Post by SS on Oct 13, 2009 15:09:21 GMT -5
So what would the final outcome be?
Possibly a permanent skipping record back before the creation of CERN to it's ultimate fate to forever repeat it again and again?
Does the world begin anew from the very beginning only to repeat over and over as a never-ending circle of life? Possibly going back in time but the time-line is skewed, different scenarios, same spirits trapped in their cages. Only the final solution is always the same.
I always enjoyed the "Back To The Future" trilogy. It is very interesting how these articles in science pop up from time to time speculating on what happens when human beings meddle with what they don't understand. Live and learn or live and let die as someone once said. I've been having a lot of deja vu moments lately.
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Post by JoJo on Oct 13, 2009 20:31:54 GMT -5
Heh, I always loved that explanation with diagram where Emmett explains to McFly that the reason Biff was boss of the town was due to a split timeline. The timelines were running parallel to each other, and the only solution was to go back and nip the messed up timeline in the bud. The idea was that the old timeline continued to exist in a parallel universe and they (had the privilege to) know of both. Great fiction.. Or is it? www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message70908/pg1
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Post by SS on Oct 14, 2009 2:48:36 GMT -5
It is fun to let the imagination run wild. Next to "The Wizard of Oz" these movies are my all-time favorites. The entire production is outstanding at every phase. What do these photos have in common? Is it the red nose and pointy hat?
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Post by iameye on Oct 14, 2009 14:13:10 GMT -5
It is fun to let the imagination run wild. Next to "The Wizard of Oz" these movies are my all-time favorites. The entire production is outstanding at every phase. What do these photos have in common? Is it the red nose and pointy hat?
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Post by B on Oct 14, 2009 14:17:48 GMT -5
omg
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Oct 14, 2009 15:03:34 GMT -5
It is fun to let the imagination run wild. Next to "The Wizard of Oz" these movies are my all-time favorites. The entire production is outstanding at every phase. What do these photos have in common? Is it the red nose and pointy hat? In Greek mythology, a sphinx has a lion's body, a woman's head and the wings of an eagle, although the Great Spinx of Giza has no wings. Oh, and Egyptian mummies had their brains removed through their NOSES.
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Post by iameye on Oct 14, 2009 15:51:16 GMT -5
maybe he traded them in for boxing day gloves ;D Clay/Ali/Spinks
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Post by iameye on Oct 14, 2009 20:22:59 GMT -5
In Greek mythology, a sphinx has a lion's body, a woman's head and the wings of an eagle, although the Great Spinx of Giza has no wings. Oh, and Egyptian mummies had their brains removed through their NOSES. c.1421, "monster of Gk. mythology," from L. Sphinx, from Gk. Sphinx, lit." the strangler," a back-formation from sphingein "to squeeze, bind" The word sphinx comes from the Greek Σφίγξ, apparently from the verb σφίγγω (sphíngō), meaning "to strangle". This name may be derived from the fact that the hunters for a pride of lions are the lionesses, and kill their prey by strangulation, biting the throat of prey and holding them down until they die. The word sphincter derives from the same root. However, the historian Susan Wise Bauer suggests that the word "sphinx" was instead actually a Greek corruption of the Egyptian name "shesepankh," which meant "living image," and referred rather to the statue of the sphinx, which was carved out of "living rock" (rock that was present at the construction site, not harvested and brought from another location), than to the beast itself." Well you heard about the Boston... strangler Honey, It's not one of those www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMFWIpYwRSU&feature=related10 miles North on the Who's Buried RoadWelcome the Rolling Stones
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Post by Doc on Oct 15, 2009 0:55:22 GMT -5
It is fun to let the imagination run wild. Next to "The Wizard of Oz" these movies are my all-time favorites. The entire production is outstanding at every phase. What do these photos have in common? Is it the red nose and pointy hat? Yes but beyond those, Judy and William have apparently had the same Ginger Rinse #36B applied to their hair. Also, the use of a certain golden yellow color to convey secret messages. I think the secret messages are "Follow the (Yellow Brick Road) Gold Standard" in the "Wizard of Oz"pic, and in "MMT", it's "Hush, quiet! I have golden flowers on my hat". I've made an obfuse explanation but why break with tradition. We no longer want to walk the path of secure national financing with a solid gold standard under our feet, no! We would rather ornament or minds with the "hat" of a symbolic "gold", in the form of fake flowers as a display, a way of symbolizing worthless fiat money issued without anything to back it up! Bill and Ringo--are the flower children of a plastic, pseudo economy. The scarecrow--a down to earth figure whose flouncy feet are mired to the solid bricks of a golden highway, is the spokesman for real financial value. And Dorothy is the innocence of the American consumer. And, in the end, Bill "graduates" to possessing nothing more than a two-dimensional blue triangle. No yellow, no gold. No value. Just blue. Sadness and poverty. The color of national squalour. Did this make ANY sense? "
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Post by SS on Oct 15, 2009 4:03:15 GMT -5
Straw man.
A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position. In law, a third party that acts as a "front" in a transaction.
The great street of the city was of pure gold, like transparent glass. Follow the yellow brick road.
Recently, I've seen a couple of commercials in the US for Macy's using the song "Come Together" complete with a casket sized crate being brought in and a table cloth spread on it in order to feed celebrity guests. A chair much like the "Memory Almost Full" black chair is brought to table except it is gold.
In a second commercial, it shows a guy in sneakers with three sets of sneakers behind him without any person filling them. There are a few backwards video sequences.
Just a few things I have observed. ;D
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Post by iameye on Oct 15, 2009 7:45:34 GMT -5
It is fun to let the imagination run wild. Next to "The Wizard of Oz" these movies are my all-time favorites. The entire production is outstanding at every phase. What do these photos have in common? Is it the red nose and pointy hat? Yes but beyond those, Judy and William have apparently had the same Ginger Rinse #36B applied to their hair. Also, the use of a certain golden yellow color to convey secret messages. I think the secret messages are "Follow the (Yellow Brick Road) Gold Standard" in the "Wizard of Oz"pic, and in "MMT", it's "Hush, quiet! I have golden flowers on my hat". I've made an obfuse explanation but why break with tradition. We no longer want to walk the path of secure national financing with a solid gold standard under our feet, no! We would rather ornament or minds with the "hat" of a symbolic "gold", in the form of fake flowers as a display, a way of symbolizing worthless fiat money issued without anything to back it up! Bill and Ringo--are the flower children of a plastic, pseudo economy. The scarecrow--a down to earth figure whose flouncy feet are mired to the solid bricks of a golden highway, is the spokesman for real financial value. And Dorothy is the innocence of the American consumer. And, in the end, Bill "graduates" to possessing nothing more than a two-dimensional blue triangle. No yellow, no gold. No value. Just blue. Sadness and poverty. The color of national squalour. Did this make ANY sense? " The Good Doctor said: " And, in the end, Bill "graduates" to possessing nothing more than a two-dimensional blue triangle. No yellow, no gold. No value. Just blue. Sadness and poverty. The color of national squalour. Did this make ANY sense?[/color] Sadness and poverty? The color of national squalour? No value? nothing more than a two-dimensional blue triangle? The base of the Great Pyramid forms a nearly perfect square.......... L7 Blue is the color of Peace and Love, Doc......remember? there's no place like home...
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Post by B on Oct 15, 2009 9:19:31 GMT -5
If I stare at this long enough I can see a figure of 8 near the center, an alien face near the top, "the great Oz" and the Aflac duck.
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Post by SS on Oct 15, 2009 10:27:00 GMT -5
I might go along with the duck thing but the other things are too far off the wall to believe. Have a look at the Moscow Cloud Ring
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Post by Doc on Oct 15, 2009 14:23:29 GMT -5
Yes but beyond those, Judy and William have apparently had the same Ginger Rinse #36B applied to their hair. Also, the use of a certain golden yellow color to convey secret messages. I think the secret messages are "Follow the (Yellow Brick Road) Gold Standard" in the "Wizard of Oz"pic, and in "MMT", it's "Hush, quiet! I have golden flowers on my hat". I've made an obfuse explanation but why break with tradition. We no longer want to walk the path of secure national financing with a solid gold standard under our feet, no! We would rather ornament or minds with the "hat" of a symbolic "gold", in the form of fake flowers as a display, a way of symbolizing worthless fiat money issued without anything to back it up! Bill and Ringo--are the flower children of a plastic, pseudo economy. The scarecrow--a down to earth figure whose flouncy feet are mired to the solid bricks of a golden highway, is the spokesman for real financial value. And Dorothy is the innocence of the American consumer. And, in the end, Bill "graduates" to possessing nothing more than a two-dimensional blue triangle. No yellow, no gold. No value. Just blue. Sadness and poverty. The color of national squalour. Did this make ANY sense? " The Good Doctor said: " And, in the end, Bill "graduates" to possessing nothing more than a two-dimensional blue triangle. No yellow, no gold. No value. Just blue. Sadness and poverty. The color of national squalour. Did this make ANY sense?[/color] Sadness and poverty? The color of national squalour? No value? nothing more than a two-dimensional blue triangle? The base of the Great Pyramid forms a nearly perfect square.......... L7 Blue is the color of Peace and Love, Doc......remember? there's no place like home... [/quote] You're right--I had a bit of a circumbendibus going there. I can be such a wifty louche sometimes. I was attempting a harmless, comic pasquinade alluding to the loss of gold backed currency in America and tying it to towering populist entertainments like the Beatles, but my incongitant quodlibet missed the mark. Instead of striking gold, I smeared gamboge all over myself. Macca and company all earned honorary diplomas in their careers. And blue is my most comforting color. What I miss is greenbacks, you know, real American greenbacks prior to the fiat notes we see today. It's not even the same shade of green? Anyone remember the few that Kennedy had put in circulation in '62-'63? Nevermore. They're gone forever. Today we have Federal Reserve/FEDEX/Monopoly money/poker chip/bits of paper--redeemable in debt! And L. Frank Baum was trying to warn us in 1902! From wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_OzThe Gold Standard representation of the story See also: Political interpretations of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz Some scholars[6] have theorized that the images and characters used by Baum and Denslow closely resembled political images that were well known in the 1890s, specifically the debate of the day regarding monetary policy: the "Yellow Brick Road" represents the gold standard, the silver slippers (which were ruby slippers in the film version) represent the sixteen to one silver ratio (dancing down the road). Many other characters and story lines represent identifiable people or circumstances of the day. The wicked witches of the east and west represented the local banks and the railroad industry, respectively, both of which drove small farmers out of business. The scarecrow represents the farmers of the Populist party, who managed to get out of debt by making more silver coinage. The return to bimetalism would increase inflation, thus lowering the real value of their debts. The Tin Woodman represents the factory workers of the industrialized North, whom the Populists saw as being so hard-pressed to work grueling hours for little money that the workers had lost their human hearts and become mechanized themselves. (See Second Industrial Revolution) Toto was thought to be short for teetotaler, another word for a prohibitionist; it should be noted that William Jennings Bryan, the fiery popular candidate (possibly the Lion character) from the Populist Party, was a teetotaler himself. Bryan also fits the allegorical reference to the Cowardly Lion in that he retreated from his support of free silver after economic conditions improved in the late 1890s. However, it has also been suggested the cowardly Lion represented Wall Street investors, given the economic climate of the time. The Munchkins represented the common people (serfdom), while the emerald city represented Washington and its green-paper money delusion. The Wizard, a charlatan who tricks people into believing he wields immense power, would represent the President. The kiss from the Good Witch of the North is the electoral mandate; Dorothy must destroy the Wicked Witch of the West—the old West Coast "establishment" (money) with water (the US was suffering from drought). Moreover, "Oz" is the abbreviation for the measuring of these precious metals: ounces. Some biographers and scholars of Baum disagree, pointing to details of Baum's biography, his own statements and writing about the purpose of his book, the ease with which hidden meanings can be found in works not intended to contain any, and the question of why contemporary press did not discuss these perceived metaphors which logically should have been much more obvious at that time. The consensus is that the books are written mainly for the pleasure of Baum's younger readers, to give them a sense of possibility and imagination. [7][8] [edit]
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Post by Doc on Oct 15, 2009 14:29:53 GMT -5
So what would the final outcome be? Possibly a permanent skipping record back before the creation of CERN to it's ultimate fate to forever repeat it again and again? Does the world begin anew from the very beginning only to repeat over and over as a never-ending circle of life? Possibly going back in time but the time-line is skewed, different scenarios, same spirits trapped in their cages. Only the final solution is always the same. I always enjoyed the "Back To The Future" trilogy. It is very interesting how these articles in science pop up from time to time speculating on what happens when human beings meddle with what they don't understand. Live and learn or live and let die as someone once said. I've been having a lot of deja vu moments lately. In Genesis, "In the Beginning" is B'reshith, or, roughly, "In Beginnning" (there is no "the", otherwise it would be "Ba V'Reshith")---but Reshith means principle, first, or firstfruits. Reshith as firstfruits denotes a time of year----a cyclical time during the growing season, self-explanatory. Firstfruits occurs AFTER the farmer has done a great deal of preparation, and allowed the sun to do it's work, and also provided water and nourishment to the young sprouting plant. At the end of the season is the Harvest. Jesus said the end of the age would be the Harvest. The terraforming of the Earth was the firstfruits, the beginning. So, "In the Beginning", might really be, without the KJV italicized "the"--"During Firstfruits." Genesis 1:1 picks up thew story already in progress...... Details PRIOR to Genesis 1:1 are to be found in Psalms and Jeremiah......
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Post by SS on Oct 16, 2009 12:33:06 GMT -5
I've had too much fun for one day so I will stop for a while after this post.
I never answered your question, JoJo. The way I see everything...I think it, therefore it must be. Have a nice evening everyone and a great weekend.
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Post by horseloverphat on Oct 16, 2009 15:52:41 GMT -5
So 2010: The Year We Make Contact (that's Bowman in a promo shot...you don't see it in the film like this) & 2010 is the likely time frame to start the particle accelarator...the 2009/2010 cusp at least. Oh a picture speaks a thousand words...we've been con-cerned, literally lol.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Nov 19, 2009 15:28:06 GMT -5
Scientists at Cern hold their breath as they prepare to fire up the LHC"Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at Cern, the nuclear research organisation near Geneva, aim to have beams of subatomic particles whizzing around the machine on Friday evening, and will begin smashing them together soon after." More: www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/nov/18/cern-lhc-startup
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Post by B on Nov 24, 2009 18:31:50 GMT -5
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Post by FAUllibLE on Nov 25, 2009 19:50:45 GMT -5
Scientists at Cern hold their breath as they prepare to fire up the LHC"Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at Cern, the nuclear research organisation near Geneva, aim to have beams of subatomic particles whizzing around the machine on Friday evening, and will begin smashing them together soon after." More: www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/nov/18/cern-lhc-startup No more time traveling birds? www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1937370,00.html
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Post by B on Oct 5, 2010 12:31:25 GMT -5
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Post by B on Dec 11, 2010 15:53:41 GMT -5
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