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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jun 23, 2008 11:32:37 GMT -5
Hello, I'm 38, and have been a huge Beatles fan since the age of 9. I was lucky enough to have a friend down the block who was four years older than me who played The Beatles ALL OF THE TIME, so I literally grew up with them. On some level, I've always known that there was something not quite right about The Beatles. Well, not always, but ever since the first time I heard Revolution 9, and had to tell my friend to TURN IT OFF, because it was seriously creeping me the freak out. I would guess that there was a period of about ten years when I NEVER listened to Rev 9 at all. I fact, I rarely made it past the halfway mark of the still strange "Can you take me back where I came from" bit that's tacked onto the end of Cry Baby Cry (or is it the beginning of Rev 9?). Strawberry Fields Forever, I Am the Walrus, and A Day In The Life also unsettled me long before I even vaguely knew about PID, or discovered that the the fadeout to Walrus sounded a bit like "poor Paul, poor Paul, everybody loved Paul. and inexplicably contained a Shakespearian voice requesting that someone "bury my body." But even beyond the clues, as I got older the thing that I found (and still find) the most disconcerting is the fact that most people refuse to even contemplate the possibility that McCartney died in November of 1966, or even that, at minimum, there's been some serious high weirdness going on since AT LEAST November of 1966, and going back through Ringo's "timely" entrance, and Sutcliffe's unfortunate end. People's ability to completely ignore what is right in front of their faces is totally astonishing to me, and that is why I've chosen to join this forum, which I consider to be loaded with a bunch of rare breeds; creatively critical thinkers, who's heads are NOT buried inside of their own arses. These days, I'm not so certain that the original JPM died in November of 1966, or at any point thereafter. I AM convinced however, that *something* happened in the months prior to the start of the Pepper sessions that required JPM to be replaced, and I think that the original replacement was in voice only, and was none other than Denny Laine. I also believe that as the situation developed, visual replacements were also utilized, but that the first NON-JPM voice to appear was on the Penny Lane single, and that it was Denny Laine's, who after all, sounds an awful lot like JPM, only with a slightly higher pitch, as demonstrated here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=umfkbQeBWZULaine also had been managed by Brian Epstein, as a member of The Moody Blues. Well, he HAD been a member of the Moody Blues until (all together now) late 1966. Anyway, I've already said way more than I expected to when I began my introduction, so I'll finish by stating that I'm really looking forward to contributing here. That is all for now. |
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Post by iameye on Jun 23, 2008 16:56:07 GMT -5
welcome to nothing is real, pl............. nice mantle, er, avatar ;D
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Post by paulumbo on Jul 28, 2008 19:11:33 GMT -5
P(D)enny La(i)ne, you said in you 6/23/08 post that Brian Epstein managed Denny Laine as a member of The Moody Blues. How long did Epstein manage Laine and The Moody Blues?
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Post by paulumbo on Aug 1, 2008 19:25:03 GMT -5
The reason why I asked about Brian Epstein managing Denny Laine, PL, was because I found a video of the Moody Blues singing GO NOW on Hullabaloo London in 1965 and I thought that might have a Paul connection. But I listened to the video again and cross-referenced Hullabaloo London on youtube and found that Epstein was apparently HOSTING Hullabaloo London. There's another video of Marianne Faithfull singing AS TEARS GO BY and Epstein is introducing her. Take a look at that video: it's grainy but it doesn't look much like the photos I've seen of Epstein.
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Post by B on Aug 1, 2008 20:37:43 GMT -5
Always helps to post a referenced video, paulumbo: Marianne Faithfull - As Tears Go By (Hullabaloo London 1965)www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf9w2hJIqUkfor P(D)enny La(i)ne, Denny's voice is a lot like Paul's in the lower ranges, but becomes raspy when he sings in the upper ranges. I doubt that Penny Lane is sung by him, but certainly he may have been included in other "Paul" recordings, though probably in concert with other singers who could do the upper ranges. Compare Denny's actual voice with Paul or Faul's: Moody Blues - Go Now (Live Hullabaloo London 1965)www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAwLYnIzj-g |
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Post by paulumbo on Aug 2, 2008 13:11:58 GMT -5
What looks different about the Hullabaloo Epstein is his eyes. I'm going to try to find a listing of Hullabaloo London acts that were on in 1965.
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Post by paulumbo on Aug 2, 2008 14:50:31 GMT -5
I looked up Hullabaloo on tv.com and there were a total of 48 shows and Epstein was on 7 of them. The video Epstein looks somewhat different from the photo Epstein, but I'm backing off; it is the same man. I looked at the groups he featured and the two less-known ones were Band of Angels and Joe Brown and his Bruwers. Letter B, Sylvie Vartan was on Hullabaloo twice and on the 3/16/65 show she sang a song called I MADE MY CHOICE. I don't have time to type all the lyrics but the first few verses are:
I made my choice
I've made up my mind
If he doesn't come round
Every day
I won't sit and cry
I'LL BE ON MY WAY.[!]
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Post by paulumbo on Aug 5, 2008 17:40:17 GMT -5
I don't know if I have to do a little prompting here. My point was that Vartan sang a song with a line that's the same as the Beatle's song, I'LL BE ON MY WAY. It was recorded 4/4/64. Vartan's song was supposed to have been recorded the same year. So you (I) wonder if Vartan and Paul had a song conversation going on.
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Post by B on Aug 5, 2008 18:51:11 GMT -5
I think so.
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Post by mommybird on Aug 5, 2008 19:22:35 GMT -5
I sure wouldn't be surprised. The timing is right.  |
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Aug 6, 2008 2:28:24 GMT -5
"People's ability to completely ignore what is right in front of their faces is totally astonishing to me..." Oh, big time. Most people don't notice that Gatorade bottles are penises, but it's right there, literally in their faces. (check out basketbawful.blogspot.com/2006/03/gatorade-conspiracy.html). I can understand not wanting to believe that PID, & that's why people are resistant, but maybe there is an inability to grasp the ramifications of what it means, if you fully explore it. One of my biggest conspiracy friends, who I thought for sure would get it, just can't accept it (he knows all about JFK, Operation Northwoods, etc). My mother, on the other hand, instantly recognized that Paul in a 1964 interview was not Faul in a 1967 interview, but maybe it's b/c she's an an artist & is used to critically looking at things. She's also not a huge Beatles fan, so doesn't have that much invested in it... Anyway, getting back to what it means for Paul to be dead - it's not just about one person's death being covered up. It also isn't just about people being tricked for over 40 yrs. PID exposes the huge conspiracy in the media & showbiz that has kept it hidden. And while some can accept that the Cabal is involved in politics (like the jFK assassination), it's too scary to think that they're involved in everything - even pop-bands. IMO, Faul is either Illuminati or is a tool of theirs - there's so much symbolism in his videos, album art, etc, to be coincidental. Plus, why would they guard the secret so closely? Probably b/c of all the wealth he controls... Yeah, it's just too big for some people to grasp or accept - maybe even if they wanted to. Didn't Heather Mills say the truth would be too devastating? Most people would take the blue pill, I'm afraid :-P |
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Aug 6, 2008 7:23:55 GMT -5
"People's ability to completely ignore what is right in front of their faces is totally astonishing to me..." Oh, big time. Most people don't notice that Gatorade bottles are penises, but it's right there, literally in their faces. (check out basketbawful.blogspot.com/2006/03/gatorade-conspiracy.html). I can understand not wanting to believe that PID, & that's why people are resistant, but maybe there is an inability to grasp the ramifications of what it means, if you fully explore it. One of my biggest conspiracy friends, who I thought for sure would get it, just can't accept it (he knows all about JFK, Operation Northwoods, etc). My mother, on the other hand, instantly recognized that Paul in a 1964 interview was not Faul in a 1967 interview, but maybe it's b/c she's an an artist & is used to critically looking at things. She's also not a huge Beatles fan, so doesn't have that much invested in it... Anyway, getting back to what it means for Paul to be dead - it's not just about one person's death being covered up. It also isn't just about people being tricked for over 40 yrs. PID exposes the huge conspiracy in the media & showbiz that has kept it hidden. And while some can accept that the Cabal is involved in politics (like the jFK assassination), it's too scary to think that they're involved in everything - even pop-bands. IMO, Faul is either Illuminati or is a tool of theirs - there's so much symbolism in his videos, album art, etc, to be coincidental. Plus, why would they guard the secret so closely? Probably b/c of all the wealth he controls... Yeah, it's just too big for some people to grasp or accept - maybe even if they wanted to. Didn't Heather Mills say the truth would be too devastating? Most people would take the blue pill, I'm afraid :-P Yup. In general, people react in VERY predictable ways, and cognitive dissonance prevents most people from closely examining anything that goes against their fundamental belief system, which has been created through their constant existence inside the paradigm we call "our world". ;D TPTB (the powers that be) have always understood this, and have exploited it perfectly by creating and stage-managing the paradigm. But why should I try to reinvent the wheel, when it's already been said about as well as it can be? "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." – J. Edgar Hoover Welcome, Faulcon! |
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Post by mommybird on Aug 6, 2008 8:08:27 GMT -5
I agree, (P)Denny ! You are truly a breath of fresh air, Faulcon ! My mother, on the other hand, instantly recognized that Paul in a 1964 interview was not Faul in a 1967 interview, but maybe it's b/c she's an an artist & is used to critically looking at things. She's also not a huge Beatles fan, so doesn't have that much invested in it... This blew me away. I have been doing photo comparisons for the past 5 years. My dad was an artist. I would show my dad the photos & he would point out to me the differences between the two men. The facial & body differences were glaring to him. |
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Post by blackbird on Aug 6, 2008 9:50:43 GMT -5
faulconandsnowjob said: Anyway, getting back to what it means for Paul to be dead - it's not just about one person's death being covered up. It also isn't just about people being tricked for over 40 yrs. PID exposes the huge conspiracy in the media & showbiz that has kept it hidden.
I am aware of this huge conspiracy and hopefully all of us here are now aware now, if not before. No, it's not about one death and I don't believe I realized that until joining PID. Everything that has been presented in all the PID arenas, through youtube, has really made me see and realize so much. It's been a step by step process to bring awareness; giving us time to let each segment of information sink in and be accepted. And, as with any type of information, the more you see it, the mind starts to accept it. I don't mean for this to sound like the brainwashing we get from the media or TV. I mean the real truth. And I think more and more people are being able to open more to the real truth..... it's just a process. I think maybe the brainwashing days, hopefully, will soon be on the wane..... or should I say, that THAT PROCESS has already started. So many alternative news sites, so much information coming forward. FINALLY, even my daughter, who for several years I have been sending videos on NWO/Illuminati. I sent her the video on Obama's New World Order Speech .... she finally sees what I'm talking about.
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Aug 6, 2008 12:22:55 GMT -5
I wanted to modify what I said before. I said, "It also isn't just about people being tricked for over 40 yrs." I brushed that aside too quickly - it's very important. It's disturbing to think that you haven't been able to see something that's been right in front of your face for so long. The veil of illusion blinds us to what is really there & we look, but we can't see (check out the video for "This One"). I'm troubled that I didn't see it before - what the hell else am I missing? Probably a lot. Maybe this is too scary for most people to face - that "reality" isn't necessarily real... So, something that just happened - one of my friends who is a sound engineer was going to do a vocal analysis of early v. late Paul songs w/ ProTools. Now, he doesn't "want to waste anymore time on it." Yeah, I think he's just afraid of what he might find. Does anyone have ProTools who could do vocal analyses? I've only found one (at digilander.libero.it/p_truth/audio.html)Sigh, I'm afraid that even if we met the strictest legal burden of proof - beyond a reasonable doubt - it still wouldn't be enough for these people :-P * UPDATE * That friend I was just talking about is going to do a vocal analysis AND he's getting a friend involved in the PID research. I'm impressed! UPDATE (again) Nope, that friend refuses to look into it. Sigh. Don't know about his friend... |
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Post by paulumbo on Aug 7, 2008 16:00:11 GMT -5
Not to be contentious here but I think there is a big push now to get people to believe that Paul is dead. Remember what I said about our getting closer to the truth and the ramifications? This board discusses all theories and I'm still pursuing the one that says that Paul didn't die in 1966.
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Post by JoJo on Aug 7, 2008 17:09:00 GMT -5
Not to be contentious here but I think there is a big push now to get people to believe that Paul is dead. .. |
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Aug 7, 2008 18:13:16 GMT -5
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Post by steveo204 on Aug 7, 2008 20:55:13 GMT -5
Not to be contentious here but I think there is a big push now to get people to believe that Paul is dead. .. I sometimes wonder if PID is still the focus of IAAP and crew. They seem to be giving lessons in the occult more often. |
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Post by iameye on Aug 7, 2008 22:47:54 GMT -5
I sometimes wonder if PID is still the focus of IAAP and crew. They seem to be giving lessons in the occult more often. it's called the short circut. no, not the Alley Sheedy movie  but if you MUST www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBcQ8h_kXU"A short circuit is an accidental low-resistance connection between two nodes of an electrical circuit that are meant to be at different voltages. This results in an excessive electric current (overcurrent) limited only by the Thevenin equivalent resistance of the rest of the network and potentially causes circuit damage, overheating, fire or explosion. Although usually the result of a fault, there are cases where short circuits are caused intentionally, for example, for the purpose of voltage-sensing crowbar circuit protectors. In circuit analysis, the term short circuit is used by analogy to designate a zero-impedance connection between two nodes. This forces the two nodes to be at the same voltage. In an ideal short circuit, this means there is no resistance and no voltage drop across the short. In simple circuit analysis, wires are considered to be shorts. In real circuits, the result is a connection of nearly zero impedance, and almost no resistance. In such a case, the current drawn is limited by the rest of the circuit." ode to the B miester en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_circuit ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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but if you MUST