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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 13, 2008 16:10:41 GMT -5
Life is a drug trip. We call them emotions but they are drugs nonetheless. Powerful drugs that influence us in powerful ways. We dose all day long and make decisions based on drug payoffs we seek or hope to avoid. We can even wake up tripping from drugs we dose on while dreaming. Happiness, depression, fear, anxiety, whatever you want to call them; we are on drugs nonstop, tripping balls actually.
The essence of life itself is the proverbial mystery trip, or if you like a little wordplay, the mastery trip. Whoever masters the mystery of their own drug trip gains the ability to influence the drug trips of others and that is power. The more mastery you gain over your own drug trip the more power you gain over people who have less mastery of their own trip. Further, your trip becomes less vulnerable to the trips of others.
Alchemy is just drug mastery. Spell casting and rituals are just drug manipulation. People influence other people by attempting to manipulate their drugs. Seduction, persuasion, abuse - it's all about the drugs.
The Law of Attraction works because humans like to be around people who reinforce their preferred drug trips.
If there is any great secret to the metaphor of "magick" that is all it is. It's all about the drugs. That is the mystery trip. Enlightenment means recognizing our drugs, waking up to the trip. The "Great Work" is getting a handle on the drugs. So-called magickians are people who take ownership of their drug trip, and leverage their drugs and the drugs of others to get shit done for good or ill.
Welcome to the show. Nothing is real except the drugs.
Newspaper taxis appear on the shore waiting to take you away? Yeah, reading the newspaper takes you on a trip. You might get pissed about something you read or you might be glad about something, but there is your trip. The newspaper is just part of the show, and the way you look at the show is the way you steer your trip.
The Beatles used the metaphor of a show steeped in drug innuendo to "show" us that they themselves are just part of the show, and that the show is all about manipulating our drug trips.
It's right out in plain sight for anyone to see if they look.
-j
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Post by The Deceptionist on Jul 13, 2008 20:49:23 GMT -5
very insightful j, as always ;D
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Post by JoJo on Jul 13, 2008 21:24:52 GMT -5
Law of attraction.. Now I know why I'm here.
Some souls get real serious about stepping outside of the play, becoming monks or meditating on a mountain or in a hut for decades. I have a book that is an interview with an Indian guru who won't even use his voice, answering all questions with a chalkboard.
You may choose that way of life, but you have to experience the play to really move beyond it.
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Post by mommybird on Jul 14, 2008 2:58:37 GMT -5
Agreed. That is a very insightful post, Jarv. Jo, I doubt if those monks or holy men would agree with your viewpoint. They are stepping outside of the play to try to rise above it. Never an easy task.
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Post by FAUllibLE on Jul 19, 2008 6:57:42 GMT -5
Life is a drug trip. We call them emotions but they are drugs nonetheless. Powerful drugs that influence us in powerful ways. We dose all day long and make decisions based on drug payoffs we seek or hope to avoid. We can even wake up tripping from drugs we dose on while dreaming. Happiness, depression, fear, anxiety, whatever you want to call them; we are on drugs nonstop, tripping balls actually. The essence of life itself is the proverbial mystery trip, or if you like a little wordplay, the mastery trip. Whoever masters the mystery of their own drug trip gains the ability to influence the drug trips of others and that is power. The more mastery you gain over your own drug trip the more power you gain over people who have less mastery of their own trip. Further, your trip becomes less vulnerable to the trips of others. Alchemy is just drug mastery. Spell casting and rituals are just drug manipulation. People influence other people by attempting to manipulate their drugs. Seduction, persuasion, abuse - it's all about the drugs. The Law of Attraction works because humans like to be around people who reinforce their preferred drug trips. If there is any great secret to the metaphor of "magick" that is all it is. It's all about the drugs. That is the mystery trip. Enlightenment means recognizing our drugs, waking up to the trip. The "Great Work" is getting a handle on the drugs. So-called magickians are people who take ownership of their drug trip, and leverage their drugs and the drugs of others to get shit done for good or ill. Welcome to the show. Nothing is real except the drugs. Newspaper taxis appear on the shore waiting to take you away? Yeah, reading the newspaper takes you on a trip. You might get pissed about something you read or you might be glad about something, but there is your trip. The newspaper is just part of the show, and the way you look at the show is the way you steer your trip. The Beatles used the metaphor of a show steeped in drug innuendo to "show" us that they themselves are just part of the show, and that the show is all about manipulating our drug trips. It's right out in plain sight for anyone to see if they look. -j LoL, I'm guessing from this that neuroscience is not your forte. You've done a wonderful job of taking the most magnificent and complex thing known to exist(human brain) and summed it up with the same stuff that wins 3rd grade science fairs. Try layin off the wacky tabacky and other street drugs , mr. 420. Ever think about who writes the newspaper or is your reality is so shitty that you haft to desensitize yourself to reality with mind altering chemicals? You've put the curse upon yourself. Mad, glad, sad, scared, is there any more? Hell, with this line of thinkin, I'm surprised we type words instead of simply communicating the emoticons. Which drug distinguishes right from wrong and puts forth the outline of morals, values and ethics? Does one ever make the choice simply because it's the right thing to do? What complexities that your new age religious propaganda runs into. You regurgitate a doctrine riddled full of flaws and spew it out as your own. Aw man, they got you exactly where they want you and you seem to have found comfort within their fold. C'mon, how many movies have they made where the zombie guy says "take the shot and be enlightened like me"? It reminds me of you. Who are you? Do you have a destiny? Questions you probably gave much thought to. I think the lightning never struck the primordial ooze between your ears. Maybe When you and that crazy bitch Yoko hop on planet x, you find a bunch of beings that have mastered there emotions. I'm thinkin a bunch of Mr. Spock's. Now that sounds like a real great time, don't it? Forget about charisma and charm, data and info is all you'll need. Sound logical captain? Real great time, eh? Bring a gun and one bullet, you'll need it. Where's the romance in that? Aw, the spice of life is a warm gun. We'll keep the light tower on for ya while your gone. Meantime, here on mother earth, instead of manipulating people with their undesirable characteristics(emotions), how about developing a personality. I know, I know, it sounds illogical, but in a crazy way, its brilliant. For starters though, you'll haft to put down the pipe and make an effort to salvage all the brain matter you have left. I realize that your still trying to find yourself after all these years, and even though your lost because you didn't like what found and pretended you never found it, doesn't mean theres no hope, but not on dope. Don't mean to be a buzz kill( ) but heres so magick I'm sure you can sink your teeth into, it made all the papers! youtube.com/watch?v=5LOfnYiZKrsI'm sure your on the right side of things and will get everything you deserve! Live long and prosper
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 19, 2008 11:43:34 GMT -5
Hope you got a good dose from that diatribe.
-j
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Post by openmind on Jul 19, 2008 11:58:49 GMT -5
Just have to throw my 2 cents in here. I thought that Jarvitronics post was possibly the post of year in here. fauLLIBle this is a guess and I may be absolutely wrong but Im guessing you have not dabbled in psychadelics. I do see you have respect or an idea as to the power of the brain. Personally I have dabbled with psychadelics and such and let me tell you-unless you have tried it first hand you have absolutely no idea just how powerful and really no idea of what you speak on this issue. I mean no disrespect but thought id peep up as your post came off to me as really close minded and offensive. You said these drugs are used to desensitize issues - I look at it almost as resensetizing. I'll stop this here, obviously I make no sense- Im just a crazy druggie.
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Post by FAUllibLE on Jul 19, 2008 12:14:19 GMT -5
Just have to throw my 2 cents in here. I thought that Jarvitronics post was possibly the post of year in here. fauLLIBle this is a guess and I may be absolutely wrong but Im guessing you have not dabbled in psychadelics. I do see you have respect or an idea as to the power of the brain. Personally I have dabbled with psychadelics and such and let me tell you-unless you have tried it first hand you have absolutely no idea just how powerful and really no idea of what you speak on this issue. I mean no disrespect but thought id peep up as your post came off to me as really close minded and offensive. You said these drugs are used to desensitize issues - I look at it almost as resensetizing. I'll stop this here, obviously I make no sense- Im just a crazy druggie. Hey, if you think drugs are the answer, no prob, have a nice trip. Most me posts are closed minded and offensive, LoL. I've dropped LSD and smoked a pound or 10 of green weed in my youth and am none the wiser for it. Personally, I don't think it's the answer to find enlightenment, but disappointment. Boy oh Boy the look on W's face when the kids say "plane must hit steel". I suprized he didn't start masturbating right there on the spot. Check it out. youtube.com/watch?v=u_LNHj-AEtM
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Post by FAUllibLE on Jul 19, 2008 14:15:54 GMT -5
Hope you got a good dose from that diatribe. -j It was purely for your benefit, as a sobering experience of reality, your welcome BTW. I probably enjoyed it as much as you did. Sometimes people do things they don't enjoy. Hey, at least I attempted to add humor to it(at your expense of coarse). I see your not interested in addressing any specifics or hard truths, but not unlike jude, only focus on the manner of dialog.Why people come in here and can't resist sharing their belief system is beyond me, perhaps its in your DNA, I dunno. I love a good dose from a stimulating conversation as much as the next guy. I see by your one liners your probably unable to deliver anything substantial. Oh well, such is life.
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Post by FAUllibLE on Jul 19, 2008 14:34:22 GMT -5
Just have to throw my 2 cents in here. I thought that Jarvitronics post was possibly the post of year in here. fauLLIBle this is a guess and I may be absolutely wrong but Im guessing you have not dabbled in psychadelics. I do see you have respect or an idea as to the power of the brain. Personally I have dabbled with psychadelics and such and let me tell you-unless you have tried it first hand you have absolutely no idea just how powerful and really no idea of what you speak on this issue. I mean no disrespect but thought id peep up as your post came off to me as really close minded and offensive. You said these drugs are used to desensitize issues - I look at it almost as resensetizing. I'll stop this here, obviously I make no sense- Im just a crazy druggie. BTW,Thanks Openmind for spelling my name right. You haft to admit its the coolest thing since sliced bread the way it spells faul forwards and BILL reverse, it's hard to beat that, if I do say so myself.
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 19, 2008 14:37:24 GMT -5
Hope you got a good dose from that diatribe. -j It was purely for your benefit, as a sobering experience of reality, your welcome BTW. I probably enjoyed it as much as you did. Sometimes people do things they don't enjoy. Hey, at least I attempted to add humor to it(at your expense of coarse). I see your not interested in addressing any specifics or hard truths, but not unlike jude, only focus on the manner of dialog.Why people come in here and can't resist sharing their belief system is beyond me, perhaps its in your DNA, I dunno. I love a good dose from a stimulating conversation as much as the next guy. I see by your one liners your probably unable to deliver anything substantial. Oh well, such is life. You only got a one-liner because you didn't add anything constructive to the discussion; all you did was insult me. -j
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Post by openmind on Jul 19, 2008 16:26:28 GMT -5
I dont recall saying drugs are the answer. I'd really need to know the question before I would ever make a statement like that. In regards to your name being spelled correctly you are quite welcome. - not quite sure its the coolest thing since sliced bread but it certainly does beat a kick in the nuts.
cheers
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Post by JoJo on Jul 19, 2008 19:59:11 GMT -5
Hopefully I'll be back soon pushing the limit of JoJo's patience and doin alot of pissing in -j's Wheaties, cause thats what i enjoy doin. [/size]
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Post by FAUllibLE on Jul 19, 2008 22:13:00 GMT -5
I dont recall saying drugs are the answer. I'd really need to know the question before I would ever make a statement like that. In regards to your name being spelled correctly you are quite welcome. - not quite sure its the coolest thing since sliced bread but it certainly does beat a kick in the nuts. cheers When having conversations in the English, most expect the other party to draw the simplest of parallels pertaining to the subject being addressed. Sadly, this is not the case we have today. The "answer" is never drugs, LoL, but the well below average IQ would of came to the conclusion that I was figuratively speaking. Maybe I speak more like robot or Spock and you understand more. You said these drugs are used to desensitize issues - I look at it almost as resensetizing. Drugs are not the answer to resensetizing, you savvy? no? I feel like I'm arguing with the poster boy for DRUGS, LoL. You need an AV. Right out of the horses mouth, LoL -j, hey, I thought you would elaborate or back up your view but I realize your not working with much, but keep the dream alive. OK? I know you would never hurl insults at someone for their beliefs. I think mine contain a bit more of wit and humor than your capable of putin forth and thats a problem for you, LoL. Can anyone say ego, look into it -j, you'll find yourself. JoJo, If you would be so kind as to give a gentle nudge on the reins if its perceived that I'm taking too much space in the collective NIR mind and I'd be glad to throttle back just a bit. I do contribute to legitimate PID/PWR discussions once in a while. Things are just a little slow right now but I'm sure it will pick up.
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Post by geektype on Jul 19, 2008 22:34:01 GMT -5
And God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
I don't smoke. But according to some silly book I read, God said its Ok to do so.
If you can pluck it straight outta the ground....
Synthesized chemicals are "drugs". Plants are plants.
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Post by skyward on Jul 19, 2008 23:01:54 GMT -5
And God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." I don't smoke. But according to some silly book I read, God said its Ok to do so. If you can pluck it straight outta the ground.... Synthesized chemicals are "drugs". Plants are plants. Well, you know, plants are little biochemical factories themselves, and it really isn't feasible for a human to mimic the plant's method of biosynthesis in a lab. Plants have to worry about fungi, molds, insects, bacteria, foraging animals. Chemical compounds synthesized by the plant aid them on their road to reproduction. I wonder, who was the first human to gather up dried nicotiana leaves to help start a fire? Got his whole village hooked on campfires started with tobacco. Or the first people to walk by a burning field of hemp? Would that affect the wildlife, too?
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Post by FAUllibLE on Jul 19, 2008 23:04:10 GMT -5
And God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." I don't smoke. But according to some silly book I read, God said its Ok to do so. If you can pluck it straight outta the ground.... Synthesized chemicals are "drugs". Plants are plants. This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm up against. God gave you a brain, use it. Is smoking a bowl of poison oak ok too? This your RASHtion of thinking? get it? RASHtion, LoL.
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Post by iameye on Jul 19, 2008 23:09:34 GMT -5
And God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." I don't smoke. But according to some silly book I read, God said its Ok to do so. If you can pluck it straight outta the ground.... Synthesized chemicals are "drugs". Plants are plants. I was pretty much going to say the same thing I am a virgin in this dept, but I once live on top of a mountain, and one night I chose to take one mushroom from the ground and held it in my hands, and it pulsed. I lived there a while. I saw so many wild mushrooms in that fresh earth, it literally was moving..... I never knew such variety existed (in real life)who knows their little secrets...we are conditioned to fear the mushroom. I tried thrice with the class A ( or whatever}) and always got the wrong side of the blotter or something. No trip. ha ha me on acid
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Post by geektype on Jul 19, 2008 23:21:11 GMT -5
Well if smoking poison oak was a psychedelic experience... Maybe.
This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm up against.
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Post by iameye on Jul 19, 2008 23:24:36 GMT -5
what?
are you On something?
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Post by geektype on Jul 19, 2008 23:27:12 GMT -5
Amon something. 2 buddies from the Theban Triad are On the same.
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Post by JoJo on Jul 19, 2008 23:28:30 GMT -5
JoJo, If you would be so kind as to give a gentle nudge on the reins if its perceived that I'm taking too much space in the collective NIR mind and I'd be glad to throttle back just a bit. I do contribute to legitimate PID/PWR discussions once in a while. Things are just a little slow right now but I'm sure it will pick up. Thank you for your vote of confidence. I'll cut right to the chase, you're becoming a problem again. Helpful hint: The GLP forum thrives on posters who crave the attention they aren't getting in their everyday life. Stevie went there and shared his unique POV. (until he was banned, go figure)
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Post by Valis on Jul 19, 2008 23:54:11 GMT -5
Faullible, what exactly is drugs? The things the government warns you about ranging from weed to heroin, the accepted alcohol and tobacco..or to take it further your beliefsystem..government,church,media,education?
I think youre a bit stuck in your own drugtrip, like we all are, but some of us notice we're in a trip and others think their experience is objective reality. I'm not sure what is real, and I think those who are sure about it are dangerous and the ones who caused the most grief to us all.
Since none of us can be really sure about what is real IMO it's best to be carefull with reality and the people around us. Understanding builds, condemnation breaks down.
What is this quote of you about? "Hopefully I'll be back soon pushing the limit of JoJo's patience and doin alot of pissing in -j's Wheaties, cause thats what i enjoy doin." What are your attacks on Jarvi about?
Are you here to cooperate on making something better, or are you here to drag others into your selfcreated pit of doubt and fear?
Ofcourse we like the freedom of speech, but it seems that the freedom of speech has been confused with the freedom to hurt anyone who doesn't believe like you and I not only see it here but everywhere in reality nowadays.
Why would you want to test JoJo's limits of patience? I have a lot less patience, compared to me JoJo is a Buddha and I'm a jackbooted thug ready to come down hard on anyone who tries to disrupt this forum.
You posted some great stuff lately but you are also slipping, into insulting members here, making it seem like a game in which you can test our patience.
I have my drugs, understand them , and try to get over them. Whereas you think your drugtrip is absolute reality.
Love is the most important thing, both in scripture and Beatle lyrics
All Love Jan
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Post by iameye on Jul 20, 2008 0:05:34 GMT -5
What is this quote of you about? "Hopefully I'll be back soon pushing the limit of JoJo's patience and doin alot of pissing in -j's Wheaties, cause thats what i enjoy doin." What are your attacks on Jarvi about?
Are you here to cooperate on making something better, or are you here to drag others into your selfcreated pit of doubt and fear?
Ofcourse we like the freedom of speech, but it seems that the freedom of speech has been confused with the freedom to hurt anyone who doesn't believe like you and I not only see it here but everywhere in reality nowadays.
Why would you want to test JoJo's limits of patience? I have a lot less patience, compared to me JoJo is a Buddha and I'm a jackbooted thug ready to come down hard on anyone who tries to disrupt this forum.
You posted some great stuff lately but you are also slipping, into insulting members here, making it seem like a game in which you can test our patience.
I have my drugs, understand them , and try to get over them. Whereas you think your drugtrip is absolute reality.
Love is the most important thing, both in scripture and Beatle lyrics
All Love Jan
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not really, so much, Jan
actually faulie ( and I won't bother to spell it "right")\
is frequently accused of "flaming" when really, I just see someone trying to spark conversation.
so it's all just a conversation, dig, man?
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Post by iameye on Jul 20, 2008 0:06:45 GMT -5
Amon something. 2 buddies from the Theban Triad are On the same. theban tridad? oh wanna hear this
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