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Post by B on Aug 29, 2008 23:46:00 GMT -5
At Tafultong's blog, Jude wrote the following:
"1. Yes, Iamaphoney is, to the best of my knowledge, Paul McCartney. But Iamaphoney has always been the name used by the guy in charge; I suppose that originally that may have been someone else.
But this is in no way the gospel. Not the gospel people want to hear, anyhow. It's not as if there are any photos proving that Paul McCartney is IAAP. There was an eyewitness, oskar karros, but no one believed him, so what can I say to convince anyone that what I say is true? I think by now most of you are familiar with the usual reasons given for thinking that IAAP is Paul....."
2. "John Lennon is alive. Only a few people saw his body in the morgue, and the one photo of his corpse looks ridiculously fake, in my opinion. This is half wishful thinking on my part, half conviction that has arisen in me due to several experiences; some personal, some are as told to me by others. Like Ripley said...believe it or NOT!
3. There is a large team of hardworking individuals behind all of this. Also, the "actor" is absolutely NOT Iamaphoney nor is he related to him in any way. Neither is he Zak Starkey...."
4. I didn't drive to the Santa Susanna Pass, my aforementioned "friends" did. I have not spoken to them since that morning and I can only tell you what I remember of what they told me. It was a bit after midnight, and they thought they were being followed. The guy in the backseat looked like Zak Starkey. Then they thought they saw John Lennon and George Harrison driving by. Hilarious, right? But that's exactly what they told me, and if you don't want to believe it that's fine by me.
5. I mean it, there is a bigger staff behind this than you might think. And frankly I am scared that the end is no longer in sight, that this will be carried on until 2012. I think by saying all of this I will have upset certain members of the RA team that have been gracious enough to have contacted me in the past: MrPilgrim, Z0DIAC, ijustknowboutjl, Iamaphoney....""
I would like to know peoples' thoughts on some of these comments. Who do you think Iamaphoney is? Do you think John or any of the other Beatles, is still alive? What do you believe? I am curious (yellow ;D). In as much as Jude doesn't like to use the term "Faul", I don't know with certainty who he believes is Iamaphoney. But in any event, the question remains: what do you[/i] think? I'll chime in tomorrow. (Recovering from birthday partying, you know....) Please feel free to post. I look forward to seeing what people think.[/color]
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Aug 30, 2008 0:38:41 GMT -5
I think IAAP is probably Faul.
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Post by Doc on Aug 30, 2008 4:50:40 GMT -5
I think IAAP is probably Faul. OK. So maybe it is indeed. Well, with that possibility on the table, it leaves us to consider why he would do it. There is the obvious way of looking at it, i.e., "I wanna get it off my chest", but instead maybe he's saying, "I've been playing this role for 42 years (6 x 7= 42) and I am weary. I want to stretch my legs, breath, drop the routine, challenge the accepted view, shock whoever might understand." It's not likely going to be perceived by many people. Just the cleverest handful. The clever handful at PID websites and most of them will miss it. I did. Good for the clever ones who figure things out. If it is "Faul", then he has ventured out to leave "us" a message or two, aimed at a very limited audience of people who might grasp what he is saying. Without being able to tell outsiders a thing. It goes right over their heads; if we tried to explain it to them, they'd call us crackers. Even more than they already do. But why? He has no intention of "spilling the beans." I guess it feels good just to leak a legume or two, every now and then. *Vegetarians eat a lotta beans. If I ate as many beans as they do........ there'd be a bean-splosion sho' nuff. Still, IAAP may not be William. He may just be another Pidder, looking to establish credibility. Our numbers are growing.
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Post by blackbird on Aug 30, 2008 6:52:35 GMT -5
I'll vote he's Bill, Billy, William, Faul. . . just pick a name
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Post by MikeNL on Aug 30, 2008 7:22:40 GMT -5
I believe He is Sir Paul, or at least connected to Sir Paul in some way.
There are some strong references linking Mr Pilgrim to John Lennon. including the few seconds of new video footage of an apparent 2008 John Lennon. But hey, what do i know?
iamaphoney is not confirming anything, but not denying either. maybe we'll know something more about Mr Pilgrim on 02-09. 3 days away, shouldn't be too hard anymore . ;D
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Post by Girl on Aug 30, 2008 8:04:38 GMT -5
Doc... a legume or two... lol It is an intriguing fact that most people DO enjoy "throwing words"... I can't even count the number of times people have dropped hints about things they've done that they think I don't know about that I really do... I've always found it most entertaining. Psychology can be fascinating. Yeah, well I surmised as much with "the frightening truth". It was too obvious. What did me in with all this IAAP business is that briefcase disc. Amateurs. I'm surprised that certain people have fallen for it, too. Still, one never knows. As for John being alive- what I find interesting about that is, ever since reading up on the account of the shooting, what jumped out at me was when John reportedly asked, "Is that all you want?" or however exactly he put it, not once, but twice, after signing the album for Chapman. What a strange thing to say to a passing fan! My first reaction was that he possibly staged his own death, but this makes even more sense. Well... sorta. ;D Either that, or it was simply a gut reaction of something heavy about to go down. "Is that all you want"? Well, now that you mention it Mr. Lennon, I could really go for a cup of tea, and I wouldn't mind crashing on your couch, neither... I've got some lyrics I'd love you to look at, and by the way, I'm a little short this month too... And maybe JoJo is John. That's why he knows so much. huh? huh? EH?
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Post by B on Aug 30, 2008 9:03:36 GMT -5
I've met JoJo, and I know who he really is! (And, come to think of it, he does resemble the Iamaphoney character! ) I may be am willing to spill the beans for a little "consideration". (Serious commentary coming later.)
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Post by skyward on Aug 30, 2008 10:41:14 GMT -5
I highly doubt that this member is Macca and I'd be surprised if Macca was in on it from the get go, though I suppose anything is possible. invanddis.proboards29.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=iamaphoney For someone who seems to want the briefcase/suitcase/satchel to be found, Jude has seemingly fostered the ill will that caused 65if2007 to threaten to toss the satchel in a garbage pile and now he's scaring some people away, which might be proper, for all we know. At any rate it is a bit ironic, as it appears.
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Aug 30, 2008 13:30:48 GMT -5
I also think that Faul is - perhaps - a William Campbell from Ontario. The Canadian FOIA equivalent might be a tool to use to ferret out that clue (posted at www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/stat/F/96165_02.htm). Anyway, why would IAAP out himself, if he is indeed Faul? Well, this is based on my theory that the Beatles were somehow influenced by the Tavistock Institute, ie that there was some control over them by the Elites. If this is the case, & Faul is one of "them," then he would tell people w/ hidden messages what the Truth is. The Elites, from what I've read, always tell the people (their opponents) what the deal is. It's like an honor code for them - you don't shoot someone in the back. However, they won't just tell you - they tell you w/ codes, symbols, hidden messages, etc. For example, the Georgia Guidestones seem to be revealing what the Elites have in mind w/ the NWO. It's there for everyone to see, but most people don't understand. Georgia Guidestones info: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
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Post by JoJo on Aug 30, 2008 17:51:02 GMT -5
I've met JoJo, and I know who he really is! (And, come to think of it, he does resemble the Iamaphoney character! ) I may be am willing to spill the beans for a little "consideration". Well, I could have sent an actor over to meet you... anything's possible... OK, well.. I guess I'm a little surprised that Jude dispensed with the subtle (and at times not so subtle) hints and just spelled it out in plain English. Hey, good for him, really. He worried of abuse being directed his way, but it was the perception that some had that he trusted IAAP without any seemingly logical reason that was the origin of much of the vitriol. Fair or unfair, that's the truth. So, in a way, that aspect of the critical response has now been short circuited, meaning if IAAP is Sir Paul, or an organization directed by him, and the IAAP followers believe this sincerely, then it's understandable they would believe the information is of some value. Important to note, there is an equally strongly convinced group that believes any information from "Faul" is misdirection at its worst, even if they believe IAAP is Sir Paul. Yet another group surely doesn't believe a word of it. I don't believe Sir Paul gives bad information myself, although I tend towards looking at his music and artistic works (paintings) to glean information. As for whether IAAP has a SP involvement, and with all due respect to the fact that Jude and Mike are 100% convinced, I'm still on the fence.. Time will tell.
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Post by iameye on Aug 30, 2008 17:57:29 GMT -5
who is oskar karros?
a hearse of a different color?
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Post by skyward on Aug 30, 2008 18:27:14 GMT -5
oskarrakos was a YouTube account, not anymore. Oskar Oskar. He/She wrote that he went to get the satchel and he spotted Macca and John Lennon. In the Rotten Apple 111 comment section- Message list, about half way down "paul had those big glasses on.and they just walked right .also there was some people in the limo.thats weird i would have sweared it was a old lennon.i know it cant be but still i looked into his eyes. "
"john L E N N O N is alive do you understand that?? Paul McCartney is Iamaphoney!!!!!! Is is all a conspiracy.... lennon is alive "
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Post by iameye on Aug 30, 2008 19:09:49 GMT -5
oskarrakos was a YouTube account, not anymore. Oskar Oskar. He/She wrote that he went to get the satchel and he spotted Macca and John Lennon. In the Rotten Apple 111 comment section- Message list, about half way down "paul had those big glasses on.and they just walked right .also there was some people in the limo.thats weird i would have sweared it was a old lennon.i know it cant be but still i looked into his eyes. "
"john L E N N O N is alive do you understand that?? Paul McCartney is Iamaphoney!!!!!! Is is all a conspiracy.... lennon is alive "a limo? what kind of limo? lol. may as well say cab. so mark chapman volunteered to spend his life in jail? oskar? no karros? how did karros get in there? jude sucks ;D based on this, lennon is alive?
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Aug 30, 2008 19:25:48 GMT -5
According to the book, "The Murder of John Lennon" by Fenton Bresler (an English barrister/lawyer), Mark David Chapman was something like a Manchurian Candidate. It seems he was likely involved w/ the CIA MKULTRA project.
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Post by Doc on Aug 30, 2008 19:41:13 GMT -5
I've met JoJo, and I know who he really is! (And, come to think of it, he does resemble the Iamaphoney character! ) I may be am willing to spill the beans for a little "consideration". Well, I could have sent an actor over to meet you... anything's possible... OK, well.. I guess I'm a little surprised that Jude dispensed with the subtle (and at times not so subtle) hints and just spelled it out in plain English. Hey, good for him, really. He worried of abuse being directed his way, but it was the perception that some had that he trusted IAAP without any seemingly logical reason that was the origin of much of the vitriol. Fair or unfair, that's the truth. So, in a way, that aspect of the critical response has now been short circuited, meaning if IAAP is Sir Paul, or an organization directed by him, and the IAAP followers believe this sincerely, then it's understandable they would believe the information is of some value. Important to note, there is an equally strongly convinced group that believes any information from "Faul" is misdirection at its worst, even if they believe IAAP is Sir Paul. Yet another group surely doesn't believe a word of it. I don't believe Sir Paul gives bad information myself, although I tend towards looking at his music and artistic works (paintings) to glean information. As for whether IAAP has a SP involvement, and with all due respect to the fact that Jude and Mike are 100% convinced, I'm still on the fence.. Time will tell. Truth can be wrapped in a riddle. Beans can be wrapped in a chalupa. Believe the beans; study the chalupa.
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Post by MikeNL on Aug 30, 2008 19:49:17 GMT -5
is the discussion back again?
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Post by B on Aug 30, 2008 19:49:38 GMT -5
This is getting too deep for me. ;D I was going to comment, but now I have to re-investigate some things.... That oskarrakos comment is fascinating.
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Post by iameye on Aug 30, 2008 20:08:59 GMT -5
This is getting too deep for me. ;D I was going to comment, but now I have to re-investigate some things.... That oskarrakos comment is fascinating. why? one of your little insider things?
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Post by B on Aug 30, 2008 21:35:06 GMT -5
Insider things?
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Post by iameye on Aug 30, 2008 23:19:18 GMT -5
Insider things? the rotten apples? because you are a mod there? I would assume.....
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Post by Valis on Sept 1, 2008 7:13:51 GMT -5
I've met JoJo, and I know who he really is! (And, come to think of it, he does resemble the Iamaphoney character! ) I may be am willing to spill the beans for a little "consideration". (Serious commentary coming later.)For a while I seriously thought JoJo was Sting, I don't recall why...must have been in one of my lost weekends ;D But now I'm pretty sure JoJo is Patrick McGoohan, and IAAP, and 99% of the posters on this forum (not you ofcourse, you are probably the only other real person on here next to me), which may or may not include Valis PS but he still ain't no Beatle or EMI insider
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Post by B on Sept 1, 2008 19:08:35 GMT -5
I was going to respond to this thread today, but it seems as if every two hours there's a new video out with new information from the various factions of the RA, so that what I would have posted would be needing to be updated, and on top of that, the overall picture seems so huge as to all but defy description anyway, so.... probably tomorrow when I'm refreshed and ready, I'll try to tackle it.
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Post by paulumbo on Sept 2, 2008 17:27:17 GMT -5
I think the Rotten Apple video series is bankrolled by Bill (Faul.) I watched a couple of them and the original source material on them is amazing. I read or heard that several years ago Bill put out a call to his fans to send him original magazine articles, videos, etc. of him. And, of course, with his tidy little bankroll, he could afford to have experienced videographers working for him. I think John was replaced in 1966. He could have retired, he could have been forced out, or there might have been an accident of some kind. The fascinating thing to look into is which John died in 1980.
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Sept 2, 2008 21:57:39 GMT -5
"I think the Rotten Apple video series is bankrolled by Bill (Faul.)"
Yes, I definitely agree w/ that.
I have not looked into the John replacement theory. It would explain some things... maybe...
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Post by B on Sept 3, 2008 20:25:01 GMT -5
2nd Sept 2008 Iamaphoney Suitcase from 922008Suitcasewho would claim to be that, who was not? www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDDXoDv-yPcThe song is "Wise Up" by Aimee Mann. Aimee Mann also sang the Beatles song "Two of Us" and the Badfinger song "Baby Blue". And she sang a song about "Jimmy Hoffa Jokes". All these songs are from an album called "Unknown". The lyrics from that album seem suspect to me: like she's telling you more than you know. www.lyred.com/lyrics/Aimee+Mann/unknown/about Aimee Mann: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_MannAlso, in the comments section to the YouTube video above, SirLarryMildew wrote: "I have to say that this is the best video I have seen thus far concerning this particular topic! If you combine every Rotten Apple video made, next to this, they wouldn't be equal to a single pixel on the media player. This video has it all; the Connery, the Costner, the McCartney (and the real one t'boot), plus a lot of class. it doesn't get any better than that! Great job! Folks, I think it is finally time to exit the "Magical Mystery Tour" bus. This ride is a bust."Now I don't know SirLarryMildew from a bale of hay, but that's a really interesting comment, and the name 'SirLarryMildew' is just the kind of name John Lennon or Aleister Crowley would have invented for themselves, so it may be worthwhile to investigate just where in that video "the real" McCartney is to be seen, imo. Aimee Mann - Wise Upwww.youtube.com/watch?v=fn7F75stXxIin a previous incarnation'Til Tuesday - VOICES CARRY - Live 1985 Aimee Mannwww.youtube.com/watch?v=EnKdg_H5Z4o
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