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Post by trutha on Jan 25, 2009 21:47:03 GMT -5
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Post by puzzled on Feb 5, 2009 19:43:39 GMT -5
Not specifically Crowley related, but I'm trying to keep my Magickal info lumped into one area.
The next time you see a flashing point of light on a television advertisement, or a point of light that scintillates accompanied by a single pinging note of music, please remember that the advertiser has just implanted what amounts to a directive in your subconscious mind; he has just polluted your aura with junk energy. —David Tansley, The Rainment of Light
Quoted from Western Mandalas of Transformation:
Colors and sounds are themselves actual forces, not stagnant dead things in our world. They are very potent tools for the serious occult student. All ancient magical traditions have used sounds or mantras as part of their meditation practice, and the work of Dr. Hans Jenny, who developed a science known as cymatics, has visually demonstrated that oscillating frequencies in the audible range create patterns that mimic cellular division and spinal function. We now know that energy is propagated through space in the form of electro-magnetic waves. The whole spectrum of electro-magnetic energy contains seventy or more octaves, beginning at one end with radio waves, which are very long, and on the other end with x-rays, gamma rays, and cosmic rays, which are very short. The sun's spectrum covers the relatively long waves of infrared light through visible light, to the shorter ultraviolet light waves. Many of these electromagnetic properties have found their way, through such modern technologies as x-rays, radium rays, and laser surgery, into doctor's offices and hospitals and are useful in diagnosing and treating disease.
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Post by puzzled on Feb 5, 2009 22:41:52 GMT -5
There has been some discussion about the meaning of the dwarf used in beach and bicycle scene. It looks as though he is laying dead on the sand. I found information in Introduction to Esoteric Astrology that claims the dwarf shown being stepped on by Shiva represents ignorance and materialism. The idea is that Shiva must kill the 'dwarf' so that divine knowledge might bring Enlightenment.
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Post by iameye on Feb 5, 2009 23:36:45 GMT -5
There has been some discussion about the meaning of the dwarf used in beach and bicycle scene. It looks as though he is laying dead on the sand. I found information in Introduction to Esoteric Astrology that claims the dwarf shown being stepped on by Shiva represents ignorance and materialism. The idea is that Shiva must kill the 'dwarf' so that divine knowledge might bring Enlightenment. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZvYk-VEzOU&feature=PlayList&p=A065865D7DAAE30D&playnext=1&index=40toot toot tootsie goodbye and the early bird gets the worm? lol When the red, red robin comes Bob, bob bobbin' along, along, There'll be no more sobbin' when He starts throbbin' his old, sweet song. Wake up, wake up, you sleepy head; Get up, get up, get out of bed. Cheer up, cheer up - the sun is red. Live, love, laugh and be happy. What if I've been blue, Now I'm walkin' through fields of flow'rs. Rain may glisten, but Still I listen for hours and hours. I'm just a kid again, Doin' what I did again, Singin' a song When the red, red robin comes Bob, bob bobbin' along.
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Post by iameye on Feb 6, 2009 0:03:29 GMT -5
Not specifically Crowley related, but I'm trying to keep my Magickal info lumped into one area. The next time you see a flashing point of light on a television advertisement, or a point of light that scintillates accompanied by a single pinging note of music, please remember that the advertiser has just implanted what amounts to a directive in your subconscious mind; he has just polluted your aura with junk energy. —David Tansley, The Rainment of Light like this? www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPF6Za-blY8
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Post by puzzled on Feb 6, 2009 3:08:50 GMT -5
Not specifically Crowley related, but I'm trying to keep my Magickal info lumped into one area. The next time you see a flashing point of light on a television advertisement, or a point of light that scintillates accompanied by a single pinging note of music, please remember that the advertiser has just implanted what amounts to a directive in your subconscious mind; he has just polluted your aura with junk energy. —David Tansley, The Rainment of Light like this? www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPF6Za-blY8Hey! Are ya trying to get me programmed? Yes, I guess just like that....
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Post by puzzled on Feb 13, 2009 7:57:13 GMT -5
I'm getting a glimpse of a new idea in the more modern 'Left Hand Path' writings. They do not touch on any of that sort of thing in the older classical magickal writings that I've found so far, but I recently came across some contemporary articles that gave some insight into how these people think. I would have to cut & paste too much text to make my point so I decided to just summarize. It would be great if it opened up some dialog and exchange of ideas, although so far doesn't appear that too many here are interested in examining this topic.
One specific example was a conversation amongst members of a group that were brainstorming about activities to engage the other humans around them. The things they were talking about doing involved graffiti that makes no sense, symbols and images left in public areas, small fetishes or sigils left for people to find, dressing up in strange garb to chant near elementary or high schools, etc.
Apparently these kinds of activities are to confuse people on purpose. They want to put people in a state of (minor) mental shock in a way, because somehow this mental brainwave allows them to access the energy of all the people involved to cast a spell.
I still haven't read enough to understand exactly how that works yet, or how they go about accessing people's energies. But just like using the moment of orgasm or extreme anger or any other above-normal emotion to spell cast - this confusion somehow stops the normal thought processes that are normally going on in our 'train of thought' ways of thinking, and opens up the viewer somehow by changing their focus and attention.
I was trying to figure how that approach could be used to explain some of the seemingly nonsensical or poetic lyrics, or even the idea of Paul's demise as emotion or attention-evoking manipulation.
Input is welcome. I know there must be lurkers here that have personal experience or insight into the esoteric mind. An educated opinion would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 13, 2009 11:16:34 GMT -5
Sorry to wedge this in here, but I'm not sure where else to post it, and there IS a Crowley tie-in. From the Secret Sun blog: Now, we've been looking at astro-Gnosticism lately. It's worth noting that Bowie's first film role was as an alien in the astro-Gnostic cult film The Man Who Fell to Earth and that his ex-wife Angela also claims that Bowie himself is an alien. She may be right. Journalist Rob Leggatt wrote of the making of that film:
"Tabloid rumours of rock star weirdness emerged almost as soon as the six-week New Mexico shoot began. Bowie it was said, spent his spare time locked in a trailer scouring his library of 1,500 mystical books, consorting both with then wife Angie and heiress Sabrina Guinness and listening to 'Young Americans' played backward on a special turntable which made the recording sound like a Tibetan chant.
The film's New Mexico location, a hot spot for UFO activity, fuelled the madness. 'You could look up into the sky,' remembers the film's writer Paul Mayersburg, 'and see strange things every day.' Bowie, still a year away from his extended detox in Berlin, claimed several sightings."
In 1995, Bowie said of the 70s cocaine/occult years, "My overriding interest was in cabbala and Crowleyism. That whole dark and rather fearsome never-world of the wrong side of the brain. ... More recently, I've been interested in the Gnostics." There's a lot more of interest, including lots of Horus connections here: secretsun.blogspot.com/2009/02/obam-hawkearth-akhet-continued.htmlBTW, if anyone can hook us up with a reversed version of Bowie's Young Americans, that would be ACE.
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Post by puzzled on Feb 22, 2009 15:06:05 GMT -5
I've been just reading other threads here and there, and noticing how people comment about their experiences with the Beatles' music.
I don't want to quote or single anyone out to ridicule them, that isn't my point. I just find it curious how so many people feel so strongly about this "music" when I have such a hard time defining why that should be so musically speaking.
Yes, they did have a unique sound for the time, but it isn't as if we're talking about the sound of angels singing or the heavenly choir playing Mozart. But people say things like "I felt like I never heard music before" or "It changed my life." Maybe people say that about all musicians and I'm just out of the loop.
But for me, knowing about the subconscious manipulation, the back-masking, the Crowley connection - all that stuff makes me question the reason for humans to react the way they do to their music.
While I was typing I had a thought. Apparently in a sexual magick ritual a metal disk is placed on the woman's energy area (I guess the location would depend on the spell being cast?) to collect the spell as a storage battery almost. In one of the links that Letter B posted a gentleman claimed that spells were placed on the original master disks of the musical recordings. It would make sense that they could actually use the metal master disks in the ritual itself to store the spell to somehow influence the copies made?
Believe me - I still appreciate how ridiculous all of this sounds to non-magickally minded folks. Myself included.
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Post by iameye on Feb 22, 2009 15:22:06 GMT -5
I've been just reading other threads here and there, and noticing how people comment about their experiences with the Beatles' music. I don't want to quote or single anyone out to ridicule them, that isn't my point. I just find it curious how so many people feel so strongly about this "music" when I have such a hard time defining why that should be so musically speaking. Yes, they did have a unique sound for the time, but it isn't as if we're talking about the sound of angels singing or the heavenly choir playing Mozart. But people say things like "I felt like I never heard music before" or "It changed my life." Maybe people say that about all musicians and I'm just out of the loop. But for me, knowing about the subconscious manipulation, the back-masking, the Crowley connection - all that stuff makes me question the reason for humans to react the way they do to their music. While I was typing I had a thought. Apparently in a sexual magick ritual a metal disk is placed on the woman's energy area (I guess the location would depend on the spell being cast?) to collect the spell as a storage battery almost. In one of the links that Letter B posted a gentleman claimed that spells were placed on the original master disks of the musical recordings. It would make sense that they could actually use the metal master disks in the ritual itself to store the spell to somehow influence the copies made? Believe me - I still appreciate how ridiculous all of this sounds to non-magickally minded folks. Myself included. no I think it's something... or at least a directional I may have posted something on John Todd earlier that mentioned the "master tape" and the use of words as part of the "process" ...I believe there's a connection, and perhaps connects with data collection....
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Post by B on Feb 22, 2009 18:00:34 GMT -5
puzzled wrote: "Apparently in a sexual magick ritual a metal disk is placed on the woman's energy area (I guess the location would depend on the spell being cast?) to collect the spell as a storage battery almost. In one of the links that Letter B posted a gentleman claimed that spells were placed on the original master disks of the musical recordings. It would make sense that they could actually use the metal master disks in the ritual itself to store the spell to somehow influence the copies made?"Let me tell you how it's really[/b][/i] done, puzzled! After all, I read these comics back in the 1980s, and I know all about it! In fact, they hold a treasured spot in my library to this very day! ;D The Satanic Cosmology of Jack Chick By Andrew Hultkrans December 19th, 2006 www.10zenmonkeys.com/2006/12/19/the-satanic-cosmology-of-jack-chick/".....Any kook fundagelical worth his pillar of salt is obliged to riff on rock 'n' roll as "the devil's music." Chick far outstrips the competition in his rock genealogy, however, proving that Spinal Tap weren't merely being silly when they performed "Stonehenge" in Druidic chic. Though the Tap maintained that "nobody knew who they were, or... what they were doing," Chick has done his research. It's true. Modern rock was spawned by the Druids. In "Spellbound" (one of The Crusaders series of full-sized color Chick comics), Penny, a teenage rock fan, reluctantly gets saved by a visiting preacher, who is coincidentally a former Druid high priest, as well as being a former member of the dreaded Illuminati. According to Lance, our hero, the Druids were "the most evil people living in the horrible darkness" of pre-Christian Europe. They were "so filled with demons that some had strange frightening powers." (One can only assume that the others just wore silly robes and mumbled arcane phrases.) After describing their penchant for human sacrifice (on which Halloween is based; I'll get to that), Lance goes straight for the jugular — the Satanic Druid "beat" that accompanied all their ritual sacrifices. The Druids apparently jammed jammed on flutes, tambourines, and drums covered with human hide. (It's a shame that Chick seems unaware of Jethro Tull, who make his argument for him rather effectively). "The drumbeat was the key to addict the listener... a form of hypnotism... the same beat the Druids used is in the rock music of today... both hard and soft rock... the beat is still there!" According to Lance, the British Invasion of the 60s had a hidden agenda beyond chicks and cash. The Beatles "opened up a Pandora's Box when they hit the U.S. with their Druid/rock beat." As their popularity grew (due to the hypnotizing, addictive "beat"), "they were able to turn our young people on to the eastern religions... the floodgates to witchcraft were opened... the U.S. will never recover... it was well planned." Lance knows what he's talking about. While a Druid, Lance had a "cover job" managing "Z Productions," one of the "largest manufacturers of rock music." Apparently, the Frankfurt Schoolers' conception of the "culture industry" was far too forgiving. Lance reveals how rock music is really made... Witches have their own language, like truck drivers use on CB radios. Only the occult language is more carefully guarded. When we produced a rock song, it contained coded spells or incantations that the listener wasn't aware of. A witch would write the words and we'd dig up an old Druid manuscript containing the melody for the song. Top flight musicians were hired to record the music. ----->The master tape would be set aside for six months. It wasn't ready for production until it had been blessed. On a full moon some of the most powerful witches in the country would arrive to put the finishing touches on the song. The high priestess summons Regé, Satan's top demon over the occult. When Regé materialized from the center of the pentagram, Lance recalls, the high priestess said, "We bid thee to bless and fulfill the spells of our brothers' and sisters' music." To which Regé replied, "I shall command my servants (the demons) to follow each relic produced from our magic music." Poof! A top ten single is born.<---- Lance concludes: "every recording that has been cursed has a visitor (a demon) with it... that's why your homes are so messed up... you cast the spell on yourself!" As the sermon builds to a frothing pitch, Lance commands the congregation to burn it all. Country music ("about sleeping with other men's wives"), and corset-busting romance novels ("those ungodly love stories... the bestsellers with the filthy language") get torched too. Moved by Lance's fervid testifying, Penny repents, agrees to burn her rock albums, and is saved. But what about "Christian rock"? It's a demon in disguise as well, as shown in "Angels?," perhaps the most hilarious tract in all God's creation. In this clumsy, Chick-drawn tract, a hard luck Christian group meets a "manager" while on the chapel circuit named Lew Siffer (!!!), who promises them booze, chicks, and limos if they sign on the dotted line... in blood! After the boys sign with Lewie, he outlines the structure of his musical conglomerate — a worldwide organization known as "Killer Rock." Pointing to a hierarchical flow chart, he traces the evolution of rock, from Soft (1950s—60s), through Hard (1961-71), to Heavy (1971-?), claiming responsibility for it all. "From the 70s on, I gave the world Kiss, Black Sabbath, Mötley Crüe, etc." (I suppose we have Mr. Siffer to thank for "all Pearl Jam, all the time" radio shows as well.) Predictably, the Green Angels rocket to mega-stardom overnight with their mesmerizing songs ("We're gonna rock, rock, rock/Rock with the ROCK!"), only to topple, one by one, to AIDS, drugs, and [gasp]... vampirism. Luckily, a devoted Chickie plants a tract ("The Contract") in guitarist Tom's pocket before their final gig. He reads it later, and is saved. Mr. Siffer tries to collect his "royalties," but Tom, using the Force ("The Lord rebuke thee Satan! Get thee hence!!!") zaps (literally) the debonair Lew, revealing his dorky demonic self, horns and all, in an embarrassing shade of red. We owe more than the existence of Mötorhead to those seminal Druids — we have them to thank for Halloween as well. Two tracts, "Boo!" and "The Trick" ("great for kids!"), trace trick or treating to the Druids ("those guys were really spooky!"). Apparently, October 31st was a special holiday for Samhain (Satan, the god of the dead). Druids sacrificed humans as a matter of protocol, but Halloween was a sacrificial block party. They would go from house to house, demanding a child for sacrifice from each — the victim was the Druids' "treat." They would then leave a lit Jack-O-Lantern outside the house to protect the rest of the family from demons for the rest of the night. If the household could not provide a sacrificial rugrat, or refused, the nasty Druids painted a Satanic pentagram on their front door. Later that night, in a cruel reversal of Passover, Samhain or one of his demons would come and kill a member of the family, usually from fright. This was the "trick" from "trick or treat." Of course, Druids and witches are still active today, explaining the ol' "razor blade in the apple" phenomenon. This is not the work of demented old ladies, says Chick, but of witches performing covert ritual sacrifices to Satan. Satan also uses the scary costume tradition of Halloween to lure kids into his club every year, accounting for the fact that "witchcraft is exploding among teens today!...." 'Lance', of course, is very likely John Todd.Crazy world of arthur brown - fire www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY1APSk0SS0www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8 <----actual video (priceless!)www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXW9VJygRBA <---- more!
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Post by iameye on Feb 22, 2009 18:24:33 GMT -5
'Lance', of course, is very likely John Todd.
yeah, probably
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Post by puzzled on Feb 22, 2009 18:29:53 GMT -5
"It wasn't ready for production until it had been blessed. On a full moon some of the most powerful witches in the country would arrive to put the finishing touches on the song. The high priestess summons Regé, Satan's top demon over the occult. "
You must admit, that was rather scarce on the intimate details. Rege' - as in Reggae? Awesome. The god Google (Gugle) approves.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 22, 2009 18:36:57 GMT -5
I've been just reading other threads here and there, and noticing how people comment about their experiences with the Beatles' music. I don't want to quote or single anyone out to ridicule them, that isn't my point. I just find it curious how so many people feel so strongly about this "music" when I have such a hard time defining why that should be so musically speaking. Yes, they did have a unique sound for the time, but it isn't as if we're talking about the sound of angels singing or the heavenly choir playing Mozart. But people say things like "I felt like I never heard music before" or "It changed my life." Maybe people say that about all musicians and I'm just out of the loop. But for me, knowing about the subconscious manipulation, the back-masking, the Crowley connection - all that stuff makes me question the reason for humans to react the way they do to their music. While I was typing I had a thought. Apparently in a sexual magick ritual a metal disk is placed on the woman's energy area (I guess the location would depend on the spell being cast?) to collect the spell as a storage battery almost. In one of the links that Letter B posted a gentleman claimed that spells were placed on the original master disks of the musical recordings. It would make sense that they could actually use the metal master disks in the ritual itself to store the spell to somehow influence the copies made? Believe me - I still appreciate how ridiculous all of this sounds to non-magickally minded folks. Myself included. Interesting post, puzz. My bandmate and I often discuss what it is that made the Beatles so great, from the perspective of people trying to create great music ourselves (and often failing...). I always come back to charisma. Their colossal charisma (esp. Lennon and McCartney) comes through everything they did. It was powerful enough to make mediocre songs compelling, and great songs absolutely spellbinding. They were truly gifted songwriters in the technical sense of knowing how to put chords together with a melody, and backing it with the perfect rhythm. There's absolutely no denying that, but it goes so much deeper than that with those two. Songs like "Yesterday" and "In My Life" are great, great songs from a technical point of view. Peroid. That's why they've been so successfully covered so many times, and have remained GREAT SONGS, regardless of the performer. A great song isn't reliant on charisma. The key to why those great songs became so transcendent though, is the sheer charisma that comes through their voices. Is it magic? Maybe, but the magic isn't limited to the recordings; it's there in the live performances, as well. Katherine Hepburn once said "It's either some kind of electricity or some kind of energy. I don't know what it is, but whatever it is, I've got it."Where does that "electricity" come from? I don't know, but the more I read about the "black arts", the more I tend to believe that magic may indeed have something to do with it.
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Post by puzzled on Feb 22, 2009 18:52:37 GMT -5
P.D. Laine said: "Katherine Hepburn once said "It's either some kind of electricity or some kind of energy. I don't know what it is, but whatever it is, I've got it."Where does that "electricity" come from? I don't know, but the more I read about the "black arts", the more I tend to believe that magic may indeed have something to do with it." This is a link to famous people who suffer from ringing in their ears. The list is so long I can't post it all here, so please follow the link: members.fortunecity.com/nrbq1/tinnitus.htmlSuffice to say that quite a few of the people discussed on this website are on this list, interestingly. Most of them will claim it is from listening to loud music, understandably for musicians in loud rock groups. However, I've heard other explanations of why people hear ringing or humming or "buzzing" in their ears, and it doesn't have anything to do with sound damage to the ear drum. Regarding the electricity comment you quoted, I am not a practicer of Black Arts so I don't have much input there, but I have had one experience that was unusual and some might call "magical." I would describe the feeling as champagne bubbles that rise up from your feet through your nervous system. Maybe you've also experienced something similar in the musical arena? I've always wondered what it must be like for people to stand up on a stage and have 100,000 people screaming worshipful adoration at/to you. Champagne bubbles is a drop in the bucket, I'm sure.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 22, 2009 19:48:11 GMT -5
P.D. Laine said: "Katherine Hepburn once said "It's either some kind of electricity or some kind of energy. I don't know what it is, but whatever it is, I've got it."Where does that "electricity" come from? I don't know, but the more I read about the "black arts", the more I tend to believe that magic may indeed have something to do with it." This is a link to famous people who suffer from ringing in their ears. The list is so long I can't post it all here, so please follow the link: members.fortunecity.com/nrbq1/tinnitus.htmlSuffice to say that quite a few of the people discussed on this website are on this list, interestingly. Most of them will claim it is from listening to loud music, understandably for musicians in loud rock groups. However, I've heard other explanations of why people hear ringing or humming or "buzzing" in their ears, and it doesn't have anything to do with sound damage to the ear drum. Regarding the electricity comment you quoted, I am not a practicer of Black Arts so I don't have much input there, but I have had one experience that was unusual and some might call "magical." I would describe the feeling as champagne bubbles that rise up from your feet through your nervous system. Maybe you've also experienced something similar in the musical arena? I've always wondered what it must be like for people to stand up on a stage and have 100,000 people screaming worshipful adoration at/to you. Champagne bubbles is a drop in the bucket, I'm sure. That's quite a list, puzz. There seems to be something about charismatic performers that allows them to channel energy. I don't know if it's something physical such as the size and shape of their cranium, or something more mystical, but whatever it is, these people are somehow able to almost literally change the temperature of a room simply by entering it. If the universe at a fundamental level is really just a pool of energy, then maybe these people are just naturally able to become resonators of that energy, in the same way that some people are just naturally really good at math. A great mathematician most likely can't explain why he's able to solve the unsolvable problems any more than Brando could explain why people would pay good money to watch him pretend to be someone else. As someone who spends a lot of time around very charismatic performers, it's sometimes frustrating for me, because I feel like I often get overshadowed by their charisma. I could say "you know, the sky is blue", and nobody will pay attention. Fifteen seconds later, a "lead singer" type will say the same thing, and it's a revelation. And mind you, this is all on a much smaller scale than the Lennons, McCartneys, and Hepburns of the world. It's like that Lennon quote when he was asked what it was that made the Beatles so popular. He said something to the effect of "if we knew that, we'd all become managers". And everyone fell over themselves laughing at his joke. ;D
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Post by B on Feb 22, 2009 19:51:31 GMT -5
puzzled wrote: "...and have 100,000 people screaming worshipful adoration at/to you. Champagne bubbles is a drop in the bucket, I'm sure."A regular occurence at the P(D)enny La(i)ne's Wings concerts, I have heard.
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Post by puzzled on Feb 22, 2009 20:13:20 GMT -5
Sorry P.D. Laine, I didn't mean to compare you to McCartney as far as concert draw But I would think 500 people adoring you still has to be pretty powerful too? Agreed that charisma carries some value in this particular economy. I still can't explain the level of adoration to their level of musicianship or their personalities, no matter how good their songs were. And when watching their old stuff, I agree they were certainly cute, cheeky young fellas. I can certainly see reasons for attraction, but not to this idolatry level. The current mythology tells us that there were no thousands of screaming teenage girls following the Beatles around as it was described originally. They paid some schoolgirls for the photo-op, cropped it so you couldn't tell how many people were there, and lied out their asses. However, you can see how that 'suggestion' worked - because from then on thousands of teenage girls lined up to scream at them.
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Post by iameye on Feb 22, 2009 20:18:41 GMT -5
[ There seems to be something about charismatic performers that allows them to channel energy. I don't know if it's something physical such as the size and shape of their cranium, or something more mystical, but whatever it is, these people are somehow able to almost literally change the temperature of a room simply by entering it. If the universe at a fundamental level is really just a pool of energy, then maybe these people are just naturally able to become resonators of that energy, in the same way that some people are just naturally really good at math. A great mathematician most likely can't explain why he's able to solve the unsolvable problems any more than Brando could explain why people would pay good money to watch him pretend to be someone else. As someone who spends a lot of time around very charismatic performers, it's sometimes frustrating for me, because I feel like I often get overshadowed by their charisma. I could say "you know, the sky is blue", and nobody will pay attention. Fifteen seconds later, a "lead singer" type will say the same thing, and it's a revelation. And mind you, this is all on a much smaller scale than the Lennons, McCartneys, and Hepburns of the world. It's like that Lennon quote when he was asked what it was that made the Beatles so popular. He said something to the effect of "if we knew that, we'd all become managers". And everyone fell over themselves laughing at his joke. ;D it's do-able ;D ...and they're doing it! Politics, Solid State and the Higgs
By David Miller Department of Physics and Astronomy, University College, London, UK. 1. The Higgs Mechanism
Imagine a cocktail party of political party workers who are uniformly distributed across the floor, all talking to their nearest neighbours. The ex-Prime Minister enters and crosses the room. All of the workers in her neighbourhood are strongly attracted to her and cluster round her. As she moves she attracts the people she comes close to, while the ones she has left return to their even spacing. Because of the knot of people always clustered around her she acquires a greater mass than normal, that is she has more momentum for the same speed of movement across the room. Once moving she is hard to stop, and once stopped she is harder to get moving again because the clustering process has to be restarted. In three dimensions, and with the complications of relativity, this is the Higgs mechanism. In order to give particles mass, a background field is invented which becomes locally distorted whenever a particle moves through it. The distortion - the clustering of the field around the particle - generates the particle's mass. The idea comes directly from the physics of solids. Instead of a field spread throughout all space a solid contains a lattice of positively charged crystal atoms. When an electron moves through the lattice the atoms are attracted to it, causing the electron's effective mass to be as much as 40 times bigger than the mass of a free electron.
The postulated Higgs field in the vacuum is a sort of hypothetical lattice which fills our Universe. We need it because otherwise we cannot explain why the Z and W particles which carry the weak interactions are so heavy while the photon which carries electromagnetic forces is massless.
2. The Higgs Boson
Now consider a rumour passing through our room full of uniformly spread political workers. Those near the door hear of it first and cluster together to get the details, then they turn and move closer to their next neighbours who want to know about it too. A wave of clustering passes through the room. It may spread to all the corners or it may form a compact bunch which carries the news along a line of workers from the door to some dignitary at the other side of the room. Since the information is carried by clusters of people, and since it was clustering that gave extra mass to the ex-Prime Minister, then the rumour-carrying clusters also have mass. The Higgs boson is predicted to be just such a clustering in the Higgs field. We will find it much easier to believe that the field exists, and that the mechanism for giving other particles is true, if we actually see the Higgs particle itself. Again, there are analogies in the physics of solids. A crystal lattice can carry waves of clustering without needing an electron to move and attract the atoms. These waves can behave as if they are particles. They are called phonons and they too are bosons.
There could be a Higgs mechanism, and a Higgs field throughout our Universe, without there being a Higgs boson. The next generation of colliders will sort this out. www.phy.uct.ac.za/courses/phy400w/particle/higgs3.htm
This clustering effect is the Higgs mechanism, postulated by British physicist Peter Higgs in the 1960s. The theory hypothesizes that a sort of lattice, referred to as the Higgs field, fills the universe. This is something like an electromagnetic field, in that it affects the particles that move through it, but it is also related to the physics of solid materials. Scientists know that when an electron passes through a positively charged crystal lattice of atoms (a solid), the electron's mass can increase as much as 40 times. The same might be true in the Higgs field: a particle moving through it creates a little bit of distortion -- like the crowd around the star at the party -- and that lends mass to the particle.
photo: CERN
Scientists at CERN use the enormous ALEPH detector in their search for the Higgs particle. The question of mass has been an especially puzzling one, and has left the Higgs boson as the single missing piece of the Standard Model yet to be spotted. The Standard Model describes three of nature's four forces: electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces. Electromagnetism has been fairly well understood for many decades. Recently, physicists have learned much more about the strong force, which binds the elements of atomic nuclei together, and the weak force, which governs radioactivity and hydrogen fusion (which generates the sun's energy).
Electromagnetism describes how particles interact with photons, tiny packets of electromagnetic radiation. In a similar way, the weak force describes how two other entities, the W and Z particles, interact with electrons, quarks, neutrinos and others. There is one very important difference between these two interactions: photons have no mass, while the masses of W and Z are huge. In fact, they are some of the most massive particles known. The first inclination is to assume that W and Z simply exist and interact with other elemental particles. But for mathematical reasons, the giant masses of W and Z raise inconsistencies in the Standard Model. To address this, physicists postulate that there must be at least one other particle -- the Higgs boson.
The simplest theories predict only one boson, but others say there might be several. In fact, the search for the Higgs particle(s) is some of the most exciting research happening, because it could lead to completely new discoveries in particle physics. Some theorists say it could bring to light entirely new types of strong interactions, and others believe research will reveal a new fundamental physical symmetry called "supersymmetry." www.exploratorium.edu/origins/cern/ideas/higgs.html
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Post by B on Feb 22, 2009 21:49:20 GMT -5
Iameye wrote: "Scientists know that when an electron passes through a positively charged crystal lattice of atoms (a solid), the electron's mass can increase as much as 40 times."Unfortunately, the whole model is in error. My understanding is that electons have no mass, and in fact, don't even really exist! But what do I know? radicalacademy.com/philkant1.htm"Now, for Kant, space and time are not realities existing in themselves, as Newton believed, nor are they realities coming from experience, as Aristotle maintained. They are, instead, a priori forms, that is, exigencies of our knowledge. Sense knowledge (pure intuition) carries within itself the following exigencies; Every sensation must be located in space, i.e., above or beneath, to the right or to the left, and in time, that is, antecedent, subsequent, or concomitant to other sensations. Hence space and time are conditions, not of the existence of things but of the possibility of their being manifested in us. In a word, they are subjective forms. Now, arithmetic and geometry are based on space and time. Consequently, they are based on subjective forms, and the universality and necessity we find in them come through these subjective forms. In other words, arithmetic and geometry are absolute sciences, not because they represent a universal and necessary aspect of the physical world but because they are a priori constructions of the human spirit and receive from it there (their) universality and necessity." ------------------------------------------------- But even that isn't the best explanation. Something about the Leeds atom and physical reality being constructed of DNA like spirals of energy.... The CERN collider is looking for a concept!
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Post by iameye on Feb 22, 2009 21:56:36 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Feb 22, 2009 22:08:30 GMT -5
Iameye wrote: "Scientists know that when an electron passes through a positively charged crystal lattice of atoms (a solid), the electron's mass can increase as much as 40 times."Unfortunately, the whole model is in error. My understanding is that electons have no mass, and in fact, don't even really exist! But what do I know? ) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron Electrons, together with atomic nuclei made of protons and neutrons, make up atoms. However, electrons contribute less than 0.06% to an atom's total mass.
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Post by puzzled on Feb 22, 2009 23:30:11 GMT -5
Iameye: Cern = Magick?
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Post by B on Feb 22, 2009 23:46:02 GMT -5
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Post by puzzled on Feb 23, 2009 0:00:42 GMT -5
That was fun B. The first time you posted the link I thought it was the real architect from the movie, which I've seen, so I didn't watch.
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