JS2
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Post by JS2 on Feb 11, 2009 11:35:47 GMT -5
Yes, PD is right.
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Post by carman on Feb 11, 2009 11:54:14 GMT -5
That's fine with me. But, it would also be nice to make a donation to support world peace.
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Post by pauliedied on Feb 11, 2009 12:22:34 GMT -5
That's fine with me. But, it would also be nice to make a donation to support world peace. OK so what about everybody who ddownloads it from jojo makes a little donation to "world peace". the thing is: if the book is worth paying for, people will.
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Post by carman on Feb 11, 2009 12:36:41 GMT -5
Ok by me. But, it be would also be nice to make a donation to the Society for World Peace. If you buy the book that's where your $2.99 will go. As I said, I don't need or care about the money. I'm very passionate about the Beatles and feel they are not always fully understood. They walked a narrow line and could have paid a high price for what they tried to do for us. You all know John Lennon was tormented for years by the US government. They could have just enjoyed the fruits of their immense popularity, but chose to try and help us get out of the mess the world is in. They weren't saints and many people think they did more harm than good. I say it all depends on your mindset. I've tried to show that what they did transended their human identities..
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Post by B on Feb 11, 2009 12:59:15 GMT -5
www.society4worldpeace.org/next.html"If you have made it to this page, then you have shown interest in what will hopefully become a whole new kind of peace movement. As I am sure you are aware, there are many wonderful movements all ready working towards the goals of world peace. We celebrate all of their efforts and hope to work with many of them. However, you might find what is said here of value if you, like us, want real change regarding peace, and wonder what you can personally do about it. If when you read anything posted on this site and want to contact us then feel free to email us, or come on in our discussion area that is linked off the main page. The more interest and the more input, the more we can accomplish together. Thanks and oh yeah, Peace! The history of all this The concept The plan (so far) Membership (and what we think it means) If you want to help contact us: Email us something Here: contact@society4worldpeace.org Or mail us something Here: Society For World Peace 1000 East Easterday Ave,Suite 1 Sault Ste. Marie, MI 49783 "
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JS2
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Post by JS2 on Feb 12, 2009 10:48:38 GMT -5
Thing is, Carman, I don't take you seriously because you seem like you're holding back the information, because of money. While you've proven otherwise, people like me won't shell for stuff we don't know about.
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Post by carman on Feb 12, 2009 13:25:18 GMT -5
I've said, all the money from this book will be donated to the "Society for World Peace". I've added that to my website and have contacted them to let them know my intentions. Joshua Bertone of www.bertonebeatlebonanza.net has bought the book, read it and contacted me to do a pod/cast which will be available to millions of Beatle fans. he has also interviewed May Pang and Pete Best. I've come to the conclusion that most Beatle forum members don't really want to know the truth, they are either afraid of it or have too much invested in the trivia and myths. This website will make no sense after you read my book. Well, actually Paul did die but not how you think he did. Look, it's time to move on. The Beatles put their lives and careers on the line to try and save us, what's $2.99 to find out why, how and where. I'll reiterate, when you read this book you need to do some serious listening and thinking. I've put together a mental picture from many divergent sources. Some from people on the Sgt. Peppers album cover. These people were picked for a reason. You too will need to construct the total picture. You will read my lyric interpretations and need to listen again to each song. You will hear these songs for the first time. This takes effort, open mindedness and the courage to dismiss much of what thought about the Beatles. The world is in terrible shape, much worse than in the 1960's. The Beatles offer us hope. (no you don't have to stop reading your bible or whatever other source of hope you turn to) But, for some the Beatles are all they can still believe in, lets begin the process of understanding them. I believe they were in a real way broken by their inability to communicate what they wanted to. It's not to late to at least let the two remaining know that we finally get it.
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 12, 2009 14:11:26 GMT -5
Sodomize world peace! That's hippie talk! "World peace" is pot babble from other people who used to imagine themselves smoking a joint with Fidel. I would never spend $2.99 of my hard-earned money on something as disgusting as world peace.
The Beatles didn't have peace in their own lives; so how could they have brought peace to the world if it was truly their intent?
Even McCartney once said that when you've got a job to do, you've got to give the other fellow HELL!
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 12, 2009 14:17:14 GMT -5
The world is in terrible shape, much worse than in the 1960's. I think that the human race gets worse and worse all of the time. But as for "the world" being in worse shape, when was the last time that you saw any of your neighbors building a bomb shelter or your kids duck under their desks in school as part of a drill for a nuclear attack? Do you think that they'll wear flowing robes when they ride their white asses into Jerusalem?
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Post by iameye on Feb 12, 2009 14:21:12 GMT -5
Why don't you just comp issue us all one, carmen, so we can discuss your work, since that is what you really want. World peace implies no pricetag, to the best of my knowledge.
Just be sure you want us to discuss this great humanitarian effort. One thing about self-publishing is the lack of subjective editing. Perhaps we can help you.
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Post by carman on Feb 12, 2009 15:19:44 GMT -5
Sounds like many of you have already given up.
As far as bomb shelters, that was back when people thought they could actually survive. Now we know better.
It's not just about "world peace". It about how we treat each other and solve our conflicts. if you're satisfied to have bombs dropped on children and live in a society where people you trust take your life savings with ponzi schemes, then do nothing. I'm not a religious person, but I have a hard time arguing with religious people who ask me " can't you tell that we are heading to wards Armageddon. Posting on this website hasn't taken given me any reason to believe they are not right.
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 12, 2009 16:17:55 GMT -5
Sounds like many of you have already given up. I haven't "given up". I just don't like your agenda. I'm not willing to entrust those matters to your hands. How's that? It makes perfect sense to me. It's not as if the kids can retaliate. They'll have their turn. When they grow up, they can drop bombs on their enemies. It's just part of the rhythm of life. I'm afraid to trust you, carman. I'm afraid that you're going to take my life savings with a ponzi scheme. Sometimes that's the best thing to do. Then everything is on the verge of being taken care of without your assistance.
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Post by B on Feb 12, 2009 19:36:36 GMT -5
Carman wrote: "I've come to the conclusion that most Beatle forum members don't really want to know the truth, they are either afraid of it or have too much invested in the trivia and myths. This website will make no sense after you read my book. Well, actually Paul did die but not how you think he did. Look, it's time to move on. The Beatles put their lives and careers on the line to try and save us, what's $2.99 to find out why, how and where."
This website already makes no sense as it is! ;D
Carman, I had the opportunity to read your book, and I will send a check to the Society for World Peace to honor your effort in writing the book. It's concise, and to the point; good, as far as it goes. By here's what I would say to you: I think even you would be surprised at how deep this rabbit hole actually goes. There is material at this site that indicates that the PID mystery is more intricate than you have discerned, and I would say it is part of yet a larger mystery that is truly mindblowing. I would invite you to look further into some of the "nonsense", as you called it. Still, your book makes for a concise, if somewhat disappointing, outline of what The Beatles were trying to achieve. But there was more to it, imo. "More to the picture than meets the eye" as Neil Young once put it. "The Beatles put their lives and careers on the line to try and save us..." Absolutely.
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 12, 2009 20:22:06 GMT -5
"The Beatles put their lives and careers on the line to try and save us..."Absolutely. Gee then, I feel like crud. I feel so unworthy of their ministrations. I've been listening to their music for free on YouTube. Worse yet, I've even voted Republican on several occasions since turning 18. They didn't even pay Mal Evans enough to keep him from dying broke. So why would they have been so altruistic as to attempt to save five billion strangers? John Lennon's "Imagine" -- which, I suppose, is regarded as his most overt attempt to "save us" -- seems to bear more than a passing resemblance to life in North Korea.
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Post by Jude on Feb 12, 2009 21:29:26 GMT -5
I think that the human race gets worse and worse all of the time. Yes, and I suppose the solution to our many problems lies with warmongers like you.
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Post by puzzled on Feb 12, 2009 21:39:50 GMT -5
Carman:
"It's not just about "world peace". It about how we treat each other and solve our conflicts."
No, it is about you wanting $2.99 from every one of us. At least be honest.
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 12, 2009 21:49:40 GMT -5
I think that the human race gets worse and worse all of the time. Yes, and I suppose the solution to our many problems lies with warmongers like you. Or with economists like Malthus.
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Post by carman on Feb 12, 2009 23:10:06 GMT -5
Ok, keep your three bucks, spend it on a latte in starbucks or something. I hope at least I got some brain cells firing. Now we can all go back to our lives of quiet desperation.
Bye
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 13, 2009 3:22:06 GMT -5
Ok, keep your three bucks, spend it on a latte in starbucks or something. Can't. I'm a diabetic.
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Post by plastic paul on Feb 13, 2009 6:50:45 GMT -5
I've come to the conclusion that most Beatle forum members don't really want to know the truth, they are either afraid of it or have too much invested in the trivia and myths. Oh, how good of you, so you've come to the conclusion that by reading our postings you can read our minds, I'm not quite that shallow and predictable I'm afraid
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Post by puzzled on Feb 13, 2009 7:38:11 GMT -5
Ok, keep your three bucks, spend it on a latte in starbucks or something. I hope at least I got some brain cells firing. Now we can all go back to our lives of quiet desperation. Bye That proves my point, doesn't it? Instead of actually saying something, sharing one thought from your book for discussion, providing anything at all to the examination of the Beatles - the only thing you can do is continue to convince us that your words are worth paying for but the rest of our thoughts are worthless. After such an endearing approach, I'm shocked people aren't lining up to give you their money. I'm returning now to my quiet desperation, never knowing the illuminated words that could have saved my life, if only I would have been willing to pay $2.99. Another opportunity for enlightenment passed by, leaving me to wallow in my ignorance. Woe is me. How much time and money has IAAP or Knowmyname or any of those people put into their work - and none of them have ever asked for any money for it?
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Post by eyesbleed on Feb 13, 2009 7:51:04 GMT -5
Carman, I had the opportunity to read your book, and I will send a check to the Society for World Peace to honor your effort in writing the book. It's concise, and to the point; good, as far as it goes. By here's what I would say to you: I think even you would be surprised at how deep this rabbit hole actually goes. There is material at this site that indicates that the PID mystery is more intricate than you have discerned, and I would say it is part of yet a larger mystery that is truly mindblowing. I would invite you to look further into some of the "nonsense", as you called it. Still, your book makes for a concise, if somewhat disappointing, outline of what The Beatles were trying to achieve. But there was more to it, imo. "More to the picture than meets the eye" . Now that's what I was waiting to see. An assessment from someone who has read the book & is familiar with what's been discussed here over the years. I got the impression early on that Carmen is under estimating the depth & volume of theories & topics that have already been discussed here at length. If I actually had the time to read a book, I would've bought it early on just so I could see if there was anything in there that hasn't already been discussed here at some point. But since I barely have the spare time to just type this, actually reading a book is out of the question. Thanks B. But there sure has been a big fuss over 2.99! I lost more than that last night simply because the young'un wanted a snowcone after figure skating lessons..
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Post by mommybird on Feb 13, 2009 7:56:42 GMT -5
Very aptly put.
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Post by puzzled on Feb 13, 2009 8:08:21 GMT -5
Carman, I had the opportunity to read your book, and I will send a check to the Society for World Peace to honor your effort in writing the book. It's concise, and to the point; good, as far as it goes. By here's what I would say to you: I think even you would be surprised at how deep this rabbit hole actually goes. There is material at this site that indicates that the PID mystery is more intricate than you have discerned, and I would say it is part of yet a larger mystery that is truly mindblowing. I would invite you to look further into some of the "nonsense", as you called it. Still, your book makes for a concise, if somewhat disappointing, outline of what The Beatles were trying to achieve. But there was more to it, imo. "More to the picture than meets the eye" . Now that's what I was waiting to see. An assessment from someone who has read the book & is familiar with what's been discussed here over the years. I got the impression early on that Carmen is under estimating the depth & volume of theories & topics that have already been discussed here at length. If I actually had the time to read a book, I would've bought it early on just so I could see if there was anything in there that hasn't already been discussed here at some point. But since I barely have the spare time to just type this, actually reading a book is out of the question. Thanks B. But really now, why all the fuss over a mere 2.99? I lost more than that last night simply because the young'un wanted a snowcone after figure skating lessons.. Because everyone else here comes and shares their ideas freely. Because people like IAAP share huge investments of time and money without requiring admission. Because people like JoJo provide a place for FREE for all of us to come together and discuss and exchange ideas. It seems very rude for someone to come in here, ignore everything that everything else has written or bother to even familiarize themselves with the ideas of the people he is addressing, and presume that his ideas, above everyone else's, are not only worthy of requiring payment to read them, but insults us by saying that we are too weak to appreciate the wisdom of his words without the added incentive of monetary loss. As though that is a requirement for us peasants to critically examine an idea. Obviously the three dollars doesn't matter. I'd happily pay JoJo $3 for the hours of enjoyment that I get from reading at his/her website. I'm personally tired of every single atom of my life being weighed and measured and given a dollar value. Water, air, ideas - all bottled up for your consumption.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 13, 2009 8:40:44 GMT -5
Now that's what I was waiting to see. An assessment from someone who has read the book & is familiar with what's been discussed here over the years. I got the impression early on that Carmen is under estimating the depth & volume of theories & topics that have already been discussed here at length. If I actually had the time to read a book, I would've bought it early on just so I could see if there was anything in there that hasn't already been discussed here at some point. But since I barely have the spare time to just type this, actually reading a book is out of the question. Thanks B. But really now, why all the fuss over a mere 2.99? I lost more than that last night simply because the young'un wanted a snowcone after figure skating lessons.. Because everyone else here comes and shares their ideas freely. Because people like IAAP share huge investments of time and money without requiring admission. Because people like JoJo provide a place for FREE for all of us to come together and discuss and exchange ideas. It seems very rude for someone to come in here, ignore everything that everything else has written or bother to even familiarize themselves with the ideas of the people he is addressing, and presume that his ideas, above everyone else's, are not only worthy of requiring payment to read them, but insults us by saying that we are too weak to appreciate the wisdom of his words without the added incentive of monetary loss. As though that is a requirement for us peasants to critically examine an idea. Obviously the three dollars doesn't matter. I'd happily pay JoJo $3 for the hours of enjoyment that I get from reading at his/her website. I'm personally tired of every single atom of my life being weighed and measured and given a dollar value. Water, air, ideas - all bottled up for your consumption. puzz wrote: "I'm personally tired of every single atom of my life being weighed and measured and given a dollar value."Bravo!
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