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Post by pauliedied on Feb 16, 2009 9:30:26 GMT -5
Is that last photo the apple one that was mentioned earlier ? That is a nice photo of Faul, pauliedied. Although, I do have to wonder why in 1968 he frequently looked like he needed to wash his hair ? although i prefer calling him Paul, my answer to that is: maybe because he just didn't wash it that often. ;D The Beatles were regulary drinking whiskey, doing coke and other uppers (pills/speed), taking LSD and smoking loots of weed. people like that tend to forget a hair-wash on somedays a week look at the other three around that time until the seventies, not very clean boys!
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Post by Jude on Feb 16, 2009 9:57:09 GMT -5
Man, does he look like Elvis there! Hey, he lived with straights who told him he was King, you know...
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Post by pauliedied on Feb 16, 2009 10:19:11 GMT -5
who is that guy with the glasses??
he talks with paul on the "let it be"-movie a lot!
(at least in the version , i have. its a bootleg with a lot of uncut xtra material)
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Post by GN on Feb 16, 2009 10:39:29 GMT -5
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Post by pauliedied on Feb 16, 2009 11:50:56 GMT -5
meaning what, GN ??
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Post by JS2 on Feb 16, 2009 12:48:27 GMT -5
Somehow, that Faul has a vagina. Don't ask me...
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 16, 2009 12:52:29 GMT -5
I've asked dark66horse to verify the source of the photo, and so has JoJo.
I don't know about the rest of you, but until he does, I'm assuming that it's fake.
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 16, 2009 14:36:07 GMT -5
In that second color photo, Faul's head appears too small for his body. Check out his hair in comparison to the man next to him. It seems unnaturally dark. The same thing with the Faul in the original black & white photo that started this discussion. It seems to me that someone has gotten ahold of this idea, and played with it to make things appear as if Paul ( & everyone else that you mentioned ) was there too. As far as that being Linda, that is quite a stretch. All you see is the back of her head. And that 3rd Faul is at too great an angle to make that claim. It could just be a man with a mustache. If it is 1968, the mustached Faul was already out of date. It looks to me as if someone is playing a foolie on us. 1964 Paul, 1967 Faul & 1968 Faul all in the same photo. What has to be understood is that now that PID is being addressed seriously on the internet, it has gotten the attention of those whose job it is to squash the notion. What is the origin of the black & white photo of the "three Paul's". When & where was it first published ? At first i thought that too, but now i think it's just a pic of that 1968 boat trip, and that guy on left happens to look little like 1965-Paul. But here are two more pictures from that day: great one of paul and the boat people How about that? Some PWR believers mistook 1968 Paul for 1964-1965 Paul, notwithstanding all of the "vast differences" between the two.
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Post by eyeseeyou on Feb 16, 2009 15:57:22 GMT -5
I've asked dark66horse to verify the source of the photo, and so has JoJo. I don't know about the rest of you, but until he does, I'm assuming that it's fake. The one posted by the thread starter: Two photos but not the same photo The photo posted by me:
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 16, 2009 16:32:09 GMT -5
This might help some...> Apple meeting on a boat going around the Statue of Liberty 1968. The full photo: Another from the shoot: eyeseeyou said: "Apple meeting on a boat going around the Statue of Liberty 1968."Ok, fine. But WHAT IS THE SOURCE? Where did you (and dark66horse) get this photo from???
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Post by dark66horse on Feb 16, 2009 17:05:59 GMT -5
Hi PID / PWR people, there's a clue for you all... As I said before, the source of this thread, the B/W photo, is not photoshopped. If anybody else has retouched the photo he did it in 1968 or earlier. As far as I'm concerned, I have had this photo for over 20 years, but had never noticed the presence of the two or three Pauls in the picture. Anyway, here's the entire page just scanned... I'm sure now many of you will recognize the source..
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Post by JoJo on Feb 16, 2009 17:27:18 GMT -5
I don't know the source still.. A magazine spread perhaps? I think the Paul in the middle whose face is easy to see is the same one with the "golden apple", just judging by the clothes. The others are mystery men, close enough to maybe raise some questions anyway IMO.
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Post by mrshears on Feb 16, 2009 18:05:12 GMT -5
that's not cool how your keeping the source a secret. were all in the same squad c'mon.
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Post by B on Feb 16, 2009 18:12:06 GMT -5
He's writing a book...
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Post by mrshears on Feb 16, 2009 18:15:34 GMT -5
now i know the source....
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 16, 2009 22:36:57 GMT -5
Dark66horse, would it kill you to tell us the source of the photo?
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Post by B on Feb 16, 2009 22:43:04 GMT -5
This isn't it, but maybe it will help. www.fabwhitebook.com/fabwb2/excerpt.pdfThe White Book: The Beatles, the Bands, the Biz: An Insider's Look at an Era. acedmagazine.com/content/view/680/31/Written by Geoff Isaac Monday, 05 November 2007 Book: The White Book: The Beatles, the Bands, the Biz: An Insider"s Look at an Era Author: Ken Mansfield "Among the names of people who have helped shape The Beatles and the legacy they created, Ken Mansfield, the former U.S. manager of Apple Records, is scarcely the one people think of first. This quiet, humble and revered American Grammy winning music producer, and strategist behind The Beatles" Apple label, began as a 27 year-old promotions manager whose attendance at a press conference in the summer of 1965 culminated into a long lasting business and personal relationship with members of the infamous band. Now he is finally telling his fly-on-the-wall tale in The White Book: The Beatles, the Bands, the Biz: An Insider"s Look at an Era. Like many careers that spawn biographies and a worthy setting in history, Mansfield’s was more than just a chance opportunity, the meaning of which he could never have understood at the time. Mansfield gives the reader an all encompassing viewpoint of one of the most vital periods in music history. Like a gleeful fan, he relates sitting through the evolution of a single Beatles song through songwriting, session to final mix. Much like Steve Turner’s A Hard Day’s Write, Mansfield provides detail on the evolution of a Beatles song, but with the added dimension of actually being in the room at the time. The title is definitive as Mansfield frames the book using The White Album which he fondly states as “more than a record”, but “something all-encompassing.” Dividing the book into “tracks” (40 to be exact) rather than “chapters”, thusly avoiding any artifice, becomes both a clever and vital device. In The White Album, he’s the humble reporter with an eye for detail and the insider’s seat on the historical proceedings that he fondly recalls with a sense of awe, enthusiasm and a philosophical posture that never waivers from selfless insight of all the events around him. The plus of Mansfield’s approach is that he’s smart enough to know the story is so much bigger than himself. Mansfield’s self effacing manor is a welcome treat. He recognizes the mistakes he has made and refuses to take all the credit for his success. What we get is a point of view stripped of the clutter in self importance. Mansfield goes into sumptuous detail about meeting “the lads” for the first time, ruthlessly defends Lennon’s personal life, despite knowing him the least of all the members. This is most apparent in times when he reveals, that according to Lennon, his lyrics didn’t actually mean very much. They don’t have to mean anything all the time, they just have to sound like they do. Mansfield’s bucolic upbringing in the “potato-bred simplicity” of Idaho gave him an outlook that is sharply contrasted with the often cynical nature of the music business, which is no doubt why so many people liked him. Mansfield is to good effect an insider from the outside. This also provides plenty of room for humor, especially during passages where he explains his outwardly perplexed reaction while enduring long socio-political speeches from John and Yoko, and hearing Linda McCartney refer to a hot dog as “decomposed cadaver tube on a roll” before Paul became a vegetarian. There’s also an important element of what the release of a Beatles album meant for the industry itself. Due to both the popularity and wealth of manpower and energy required for a release, Mansfield confides that other Capitol artists suffered in sales while other artists, ill-fated by coinciding release schedules, had to settle for No. 2 at the pop charts. He doesn’t admonish the band for their success but recognizes the Beatles were a force of nature to be reckoned with. Also of interest is a detailed chapter on their famous, attention-grabbing final roof top performance (in which he relates just how good a live act the band really was), recognizing the talent of a then unknown teenage Guns 'N Roses guitarist Slash, and an utterly heartbreaking chapter on the death of John Lennon. His later career, working in Nashville with Dolly Parton, Waylan Jennings and David Cassidy, is also of interest for music fans, but he always manages to come back to The Beatles as he follows their solo careers and legacy, both up close and from a distance. The book is presented in a lavish, multi-color spectrum, and is well laid out. Chockablock full of photos, signed album covers, memos, notes, letters, contracts and personal affects, the book demonstrates the most important times in music history with visual flair. There’s a full page scan of a hand written memo John Lennon wrote him, which comes complete with background information on the facing page. A good source of information provides answers to the questions we ask. A great one gives us the answers to questions we never thought to ask, and enriches our experience in the process. The White Book: The Beatles, the Bands, the Biz: An Insider’s Look at an Era has more experience and far more enthusiasm than one would expect from a biography, historical treatise or vital music biz how-to. The White Book is indeed something all encompassing, with sincere style and refreshing modesty from someone who was there. "
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Feb 16, 2009 22:55:51 GMT -5
Cranberrysource!
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Post by -Wings- on Feb 17, 2009 0:55:21 GMT -5
Sitting in an English garden waiting for the source, if the source don't come get a tan from standing in the English rain.
Seriously, if this is legit (and I notice no obvious photo manipulation, nor do I recognize the pictures of JPM and the two replacements), then this is it. The Holy Grail. Proof that there's more than one Paul. A round-up of all those that replaced him standing with the real deal. A silencing of both those who claim this is all bogus and those who claim he's dead.
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Post by Red Lion on Feb 17, 2009 5:38:55 GMT -5
A silencing of both those who claim this is all bogus and those who claim he's dead.
You can almost hear the wheels turning now.
PIA: " The picture, even if authentic, shows only one Paul, there on the left....err wait ...center, yeah center.....but it might be the fellow on the right.... take yer pick but only one of 'em is Paul."
PID: " Here are some photos of Faul showing how large and over sized his forehead is, proving that Paul is dead!"
"I agree, Faul has a really, really big forehead, I mean BIG. Like if you took a picture of Faul's entire head, 95%-105% of the photo would be forehead."
"That is a very insightful post. I glad I'm not the only one who sees it. Once you see that big forehead, the image of it kind of burns into your mind, and the next time you see that massive forehead, it's just like you remembered it was, really big. Oh, and poor Paul."
"I know what you mean. For me though, the most tragic part of all this is that Paul's identity was taken over by some guy with a ginormous frontal lobe, JPM must be turning in his grave over this. Well, at least we proved that the boat picture was worthless."
"We sure did!"
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Post by pauliedied on Feb 17, 2009 6:15:41 GMT -5
A silencing of both those who claim this is all bogus and those who claim he's dead.You can almost hear the wheels turning now. PIA: " The picture, even if authentic, shows only one Paul, there on the left....err wait ...center, yeah center.....but it might be the fellow on the right.... take yer pick but only one of 'em is Paul." PID: " Here are some photos of Faul showing how large and over sized his forehead is, proving that Paul is dead!" "I agree, Faul has a really, really big forehead, I mean BIG. Like if you took a picture of Faul's entire head, 95%-105% of the photo would be forehead." "That is a very insightful post. I glad I'm not the only one who sees it. Once you see that big forehead, the image of it kind of burns into your mind, and the next time you see that massive forehead, it's just like you remembered it was, really big. Oh, and poor Paul." "I know what you mean. For me though, the most tragic part of all this is that Paul's identity was taken over by some guy with a ginormous frontal lobe, JPM must be turning in his grave over this. Well, at least we proved that the boat picture was worthless." "We sure did!" LOL But what do YOU think?
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Post by Jude on Feb 17, 2009 9:16:47 GMT -5
A silencing of both those who claim this is all bogus and those who claim he's dead.You can almost hear the wheels turning now. PIA: " The picture, even if authentic, shows only one Paul, there on the left....err wait ...center, yeah center.....but it might be the fellow on the right.... take yer pick but only one of 'em is Paul." PID: " Here are some photos of Faul showing how large and over sized his forehead is, proving that Paul is dead!" "I agree, Faul has a really, really big forehead, I mean BIG. Like if you took a picture of Faul's entire head, 95%-105% of the photo would be forehead." "That is a very insightful post. I glad I'm not the only one who sees it. Once you see that big forehead, the image of it kind of burns into your mind, and the next time you see that massive forehead, it's just like you remembered it was, really big. Oh, and poor Paul." "I know what you mean. For me though, the most tragic part of all this is that Paul's identity was taken over by some guy with a ginormous frontal lobe, JPM must be turning in his grave over this. Well, at least we proved that the boat picture was worthless." "We sure did!" LOL But what do YOU think? Double LOL! See, this is why Red Lion is my favorite moderator... (no offense, Jo!) ;D
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 17, 2009 10:09:59 GMT -5
A silencing of both those who claim this is all bogus and those who claim he's dead.You can almost hear the wheels turning now. PIA: " The picture, even if authentic, shows only one Paul, there on the left....err wait ...center, yeah center.....but it might be the fellow on the right.... take yer pick but only one of 'em is Paul." PID: " Here are some photos of Faul showing how large and over sized his forehead is, proving that Paul is dead!" "I agree, Faul has a really, really big forehead, I mean BIG. Like if you took a picture of Faul's entire head, 95%-105% of the photo would be forehead." "That is a very insightful post. I glad I'm not the only one who sees it. Once you see that big forehead, the image of it kind of burns into your mind, and the next time you see that massive forehead, it's just like you remembered it was, really big. Oh, and poor Paul." "I know what you mean. For me though, the most tragic part of all this is that Paul's identity was taken over by some guy with a ginormous frontal lobe, JPM must be turning in his grave over this. Well, at least we proved that the boat picture was worthless." "We sure did!" Triple LOL! But remember, it's not just Faul's enormous forehead that proves that Paul is dead and that the boat picture is worthless. His green eyes and his uncute features also prove that. They don't just prove that he's dead; they prove that he was MURDERED. Really, it just burns me up right now to think about how those murderers got away with it.
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 17, 2009 10:22:27 GMT -5
Seriously though, I don't think that the candidate in the center is a "Paul". If you look at him closely, he's just a guy in a Beatles haircut. The one on the left, who has been identified as a '64-'65 lookalike -- is a possibility.
The one on the right -- because of his mustache -- is disqualified from being the Paul from 1968 -- who was probably the original -- but he looks like he could be Nairobi Paul/EMI Studios Paul (12-22-66, per Iamaphoney's RA 30 video)/1967 TV interview Paul (not from the LSD interview but the other one who is being interviewed in the studio and who is complaining about "all these rules").
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Post by B on Feb 17, 2009 11:50:04 GMT -5
Well, the one on the right was on the left. And the one in the middle was on the right. And the one on the left was in the middle. And the guy in the rear was the real one in a county of fair fields in Connecticut.
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