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Post by eyesbleed on Feb 21, 2009 23:55:41 GMT -5
Has this forum now become a place only for people who believe that Paul was replaced temporarily or not replaced at all ? If so, I will be happy to leave here for good. In short.... no. NIR is a forum where PID folks, PWR folks, & other folks who don't believe any of it all discuss an endless variety of theories involving this mystery involving JPM. Always has been... always will be
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Post by eyesbleed on Feb 22, 2009 0:11:14 GMT -5
My forum is meant to be a place where people who believe that Paul died can discuss it in peace. More power to ya. That's what internet forums are for & that is your prerogative, so go for it!
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Post by Red Lion on Feb 22, 2009 2:24:16 GMT -5
my forum is strictly PID..... I fail to see why this makes us "closed minded"
jumbo shrimp....military intelligence....anti-abortion terrorists....male lesbians....
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Post by dark66horse on Feb 22, 2009 6:30:51 GMT -5
dark66horse, it is common courtesy to site sources when quoting someone else's material. I omitted to cite that source, preferring to leave aliens alone for the moment (I know how absurd that may sounds for most of posters here). At the same time it was important to show how an event such as the changing Bush persona during the last 8 years can pass unnoticed by most. That said, I totally subscribe most of the concepts of "Letter B" explained in the "Send in the Clones" Thread Started on Dec 30, 2008, and I invite you to find the time to study it. As for those of the Granny/Mommy bird forum, I suggest you to further restrict your membership only those PID ers who believe that Paul was killed at 5 o'clock of late September,1966, and to absolutely exclude those who believe that Paul was killed at 5,30 o'clock of late September,1966, because this big difference of time could cause you an incredible waste of your precious time.
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Post by iameye on Feb 22, 2009 7:54:05 GMT -5
Jo posted: NIR should stay what it is, a place for an assortment of differing views. Those that spin off their own forums so they can have a place they want to discuss their own views, more power to them, and D66H, they have the right to admit or deny anyone they wish. That is how I feel also. I like coming here, because I am interested in seeing other people's viewpoints. Not to mention that I have friends here. I am more than willing to discuss all viewpoints here, when I have the time. I like having a place where I can focus on my beliefs without interruption. Sorry you felt you needed to leave over this GB. Take care
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Post by eyesbleed on Feb 22, 2009 9:12:39 GMT -5
Eyesbleed, sorry that you feel that way. You know that I have the greatest respect for you. You would be welcome on my forum anyday of the week, no matter what your beliefs are now. Well now that's not really true. Once I interrupted a few PID discussions with my very different theories, I would not be very welcome. Sorry you had to take my criticism of your forum personally, that isn't how it was intended. Yes you have the right to ban anybody you want from your forum, but why would somebody who disagrees with PID want to be there anyway? That was my point. ALL of my old friends consider NIR to be as flaky as a bowl of breakfast cereal but they're wrong, so who cares.
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Post by mrshears on Feb 22, 2009 11:21:17 GMT -5
Jo posted: NIR should stay what it is, a place for an assortment of differing views. Those that spin off their own forums so they can have a place they want to discuss their own views, more power to them, and D66H, they have the right to admit or deny anyone they wish. That is how I feel also. I like coming here, because I am interested in seeing other people's viewpoints. Not to mention that I have friends here. I am more than willing to discuss all viewpoints here, when I have the time. I like having a place where I can focus on my beliefs without interruption. whoever tempted mommybird to leave really shouldnt have , she is a very valuable gem, to have on the forum, and contribute.
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Post by mrshears on Feb 22, 2009 13:45:47 GMT -5
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Post by DarkHorse on Feb 22, 2009 14:56:48 GMT -5
I gotta say that when you are on a forum that is strict to the topic at hand and outside influences are limited, you can get so much more accomplished in terms of research. I feel that although NIR has been generous to allow the PIA point of view, that has created somewhat of a block to getting any further progress done to what really happened to Paul and the Beatles in the fall of 1966.
People have their opinions as to what happened and for a long time it was that Paul died in a car crash. Now the trend here is that he lived on past 1966 and people are comparing pics of "Paul" from 1968 and saying that it is the same guy as the one in 1966 and before. So you can see why I think we haven't progressed that much and actually have regressed a bit. Does anybody else recognize this?
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Post by mrshears on Feb 22, 2009 14:59:22 GMT -5
I gotta say that when you are on a forum that is strict to the topic at hand and outside influences are limited, you can get so much more accomplished in terms of research. I feel that although NIR has been generous to allow the PIA point of view, that has created somewhat of a block to getting any further progress done to what really happened to Paul and the Beatles in the fall of 1966. People have their opinions as to what happened and for a long time it was that Paul died in a car crash. Now the trend here is that he lived on past 1966 and people are comparing pics of "Paul" from 1968 and saying that it is the same guy as the one in 1966 and before. So you can see why I think we haven't progressed that much and actually have regressed a bit. Does anybody else recognize this? i agree to that one. i must say.....
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Post by puzzled on Feb 22, 2009 15:20:49 GMT -5
Expressing opposing viewpoints isn't what stops the discussion. If everyone could do that without the fear of being bashed every time they threw out a new idea or thought, maybe some new conversations would develop?
There are a few aggressive heavy-hitters on this forum that ridicule and diminish people for their views or ideas, and that more than anything inhibits the feeling that you are free to examine new ideas.
You would expect to have to defend yourself in an open forum to discuss the minutia of this Mystery, but it seems unfair to have to protect yourself so strongly here where the ideas should be invited.
If there is a specific agenda of this board that Mgmt doesn't want to hear "woo-woo" topics of conversation, then all you have to do is clearly state it so people know if their input is wanted or not.
However, if discussion of Don Knotts or Sun King or IAAP or whatever unsavory trail comes up is unacceptable for review, then what good is it to examine the evidence when you are forced to ignore half of the story? Shit, it's Christopher Columbus all over again.
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Post by mrshears on Feb 22, 2009 15:23:41 GMT -5
Expressing opposing viewpoints isn't what stops the discussion. If everyone could do that without the fear of being bashed every time they threw out a new idea or thought, maybe some new conversations would develop? There are a few aggressive heavy-hitters on this forum that ridicule and diminish people for their views or ideas, and that more than anything inhibits the feeling that you are free to examine new ideas. You would expect to have to defend yourself in an open forum to discuss the minutia of this Mystery, but it seems unfair to have to protect yourself so strongly here where the ideas should be invited. If there is a specific agenda of this board that Mgmt doesn't want to hear "woo-woo" topics of conversation, then all you have to do is clearly state it so people know if their input is wanted or not. However, if discussion of Don Knotts or Sun King or IAAP or whatever unsavory trail comes up is unacceptable for review, then what good is it to examine the evidence when you are forced to ignore half of the story? Shit, it's Christopher Columbus all over again. that exactly what mb had to go through, defending her views, all the time.
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Post by iameye on Feb 22, 2009 15:26:49 GMT -5
Further conversation should be redirected? (iameye said that?) ;D
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Post by mrshears on Feb 22, 2009 15:30:37 GMT -5
Further conversation should be redirected? (iameye said that?) ;D huh
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Post by JoJo on Feb 22, 2009 15:33:45 GMT -5
I think she means the conversation is veering off topic.
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Post by mrshears on Feb 22, 2009 15:36:20 GMT -5
then we should probably start a new thread for this new topic.
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Post by plastic paul on Feb 22, 2009 16:38:03 GMT -5
All together now, get over it people....
I personally now believe that the man on the right is almost certainly Derek Taylor, especially now we have seen the photos of him in his pretty awful stripy suit! Good work JoJo.
Now the thing is we haven't seen any photos of the other gentleman, on the left who looks a lot like JPM did pre-1967, why should that be? This picture still gives me that spooky feeling like when you see pictures of ghosts, rather like that famous Elvis picture. It's almost as if you shouldn't be seeing what's plainly there before your eyes.
I think the point I'm trying to make, is that even the whole PID/PWR legend didn't exist, we would still be on some fan forum asking why we could see two Paul's in this photograph. Crazy.
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Post by mrshears on Feb 22, 2009 19:28:44 GMT -5
ive pretty much came to the same conclusion, that its derek taylor.
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Post by Jude on Feb 23, 2009 9:34:18 GMT -5
There are a few aggressive heavy-hitters on this forum that ridicule and diminish people for their views or ideas, *COUGH* trutha..*COUGH*
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Post by Jude on Feb 23, 2009 9:36:46 GMT -5
This picture still gives me that spooky feeling like when you see pictures of ghosts, rather like that famous Elvis picture. It's almost as if you shouldn't be seeing what's plainly there before your eyes. Which famous Elvis picture?
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Post by plastic paul on Feb 23, 2009 9:45:26 GMT -5
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Post by B on Feb 23, 2009 10:45:00 GMT -5
This picture still gives me that spooky feeling like when you see pictures of ghosts, rather like that famous Elvis picture. It's almost as if you shouldn't be seeing what's plainly there before your eyes. Which famous Elvis picture?
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Post by dark66horse on Feb 23, 2009 13:04:15 GMT -5
I've found this: THE BEATLES HISTORY 1968
# May 11 -- John, Paul, Mal, Derek Taylor and Neil arrive in New York to promote Apple Corps. During this visit, John and Paul stay at 181 E. 73rd St., New York, residence of Nat Weiss. # May 12 -- John and Paul hold the first board meeting of Apple Corps, in a Chinese junk sailing around New York's Statue of Liberty. 1st day of official work of Ron Kass in Apple Records. Capitol Records gives Kass a check for 1250 dollars.
Mybe JPM just wanted/had to be present (for legal reasons) to the first board meeting of Apple Corps, just a guess...
APaul Corps
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Post by dark66horse on Feb 23, 2009 13:12:11 GMT -5
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Post by Jude on Feb 23, 2009 13:31:54 GMT -5
Which famous Elvis picture? I see. How spooky..
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