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Post by ru1ofthem on May 5, 2009 15:27:50 GMT -5
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Jude
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Post by Jude on May 5, 2009 18:21:21 GMT -5
Welcome to the board, yhsvh10! And everyone check out O-Bloody O Blood Die---more compelling than the last few Rotten Apple installments put together, in my opinion.
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Post by B on May 6, 2009 20:41:23 GMT -5
Garbage. A waste of my time. Thanks for nothing, ru1ofthem. What's so compelling about it Jude? What's wrong with it? Contrived (and invalid) Reverse Speech throughout. No discernable "clue for you all", all done by a would-be Phoney, but one with no discernable reason to be taken seriously. Take all the umbrage you want, yhsvh10, it's not clever, funny, or even honest. You have to be over 13 to post here, btw.
"...You tell me."
Consider yourself told.
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Post by Jude on May 6, 2009 21:02:25 GMT -5
Garbage. A waste of my time. Thanks for nothing, ru1ofthem. What's so compelling about it Jude? What's wrong with it? Contrived (and invalid) Reverse Speech throughout. No discernable "clue for you all", all done by a would-be Phoney, but one with no discernable reason to be payed heed to. Take all the umbrage you want, yhsvh10, it's not clever, funny, or even honest. You have to be over 13 to post here, btw. I don't know what to say....I'm totally speechless. Letter B, is that even you? Why are you acting like this? You've always been a friend to me, so why then, when I invite a friend to visit these forums, are you so virulent? I can't imagine that yhshvh10 will ever return thanks to you. I can only hope that someone is posting as you or that you have been temporarily possessed by something because this is not the Letter B I know.
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Post by Jude on May 6, 2009 21:05:51 GMT -5
Garbage. A waste of my time. Thanks for nothing, ru1ofthem. What's so compelling about it Jude? What's wrong with it? Contrived (and invalid) Reverse Speech throughout. No discernable "clue for you all", all done by a would-be Phoney, but one with no discernable reason to be payed heed to. Take all the umbrage you want, yhsvh10, it's not clever, funny, or even honest. You have to be over 13 to post here, btw. Yhshvh10, I apologize for Letter B. I have never seen him like this, and I assure you that there are many people here who believe in reverse speech. To call this video contrived is ridiculous, and I am outraged that he could be so hateful to someone for what it is their very first post here. What's so compelling about it Jude? What's wrong with it? Contrived (and invalid) Reverse Speech throughout. No discernable clue for you all done by a would-be Phoney, but one with no discernable reason to be taken seriously. If yhsvh10 is a would-be Phoney for putting so-called "contrived" reverse speech messages in a video and calling theme clues, then I must be the King of Would-Be Phonies. ALL of my videos have featured reverse speech messages in them, and that is a theme I intend to continue to follow if I ever make another installment of the Unfresh Apple series. I admit that I did not hear all of the reverse speech clues that yhsvh10 claimed were in O Bla Di O Bla Da, but the ones pertaining to the beast and to devils were fantastic, and very clear to hear. And even if you couldn't hear all of the reverse speech, you wouldn't even remotely have the right to act the way you did to this guy. Yhshv10 actually researched and found these clues; it's all well and good that you are enamored with suitcase hunts and love codes, but don't diss the fellow who actually discovers something new.
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Post by B on May 7, 2009 1:54:15 GMT -5
For the record: I am aware of Reverse Speech, and the fact that it occurs. I also know that David John Oates has said that most people create it about once every 20 or 30 seconds. What does not happen is that every lyric in a song creates a speech reversal when a song is played in reverse. A song may contain speech reversals, however the structure of music itself imposes itself on how the lyrics are sung, and so 'reversals' may occur that are not reverse speech in the true sense of the word. Reverse speech comes from within, and has an emotional component to it, so whether words printed externally on a page, and sung, would generate legitimate reverse speech is debatable. There should be a correlation of what is said forward with what is said in reverse for legitimate reverse speech to have taken place. "It was a fake mustache" works because "Sgt. Pepper" had one. However the words of a song may not allow for speech reversal expression. Ideally words spoken freely would be the source of valid reverse speech samples to be evaluated.
The videos of Sunsol, and this one by yhsvh10, try to make every line in a song a reversal, which simply doesn't happen with reverse speech. There may be some reversals in a song, but not every line; and whether the reversals should be considered as authentic, and coming from the vocalist, or being engendered by the phoenetics of the lyrics, tempered by the music, is an issue.
I have expressed my opinion of the posted video already, and the less I say about its creator, the opening poster, the better. Suffice it to say, I am not impressed.
" ...but don't diss the fellow who actually discovers something new."
Did he? Did it have any validity? I see/hear no great discoveries here; just questionable possibilities at best.
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Post by iameye on May 7, 2009 8:37:33 GMT -5
I agree with most of what B said, as much of this is wishful projection. Questionable words ( and there are many) are conveniently pegged as this or that with absolute authority by these video makers - just because they say so, and are not even based on any sort of obvious phonetic structure. I suppose this is the disclaimer "satire" aspect of the genre.
The bigger problem I see here is the overzealous presentation of corresponding macabre images used to "sell" the idea. What's up with that? Images of devils and demons? These things exist? In what reality?? Why do these video hounds continue to embrace such a negative interpretation? Do they know something we don't? I doubt it, yet this agenda is constantly pushed upon us. Why?
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Post by Jude on May 7, 2009 8:54:22 GMT -5
Well gee, Letter B, I guess I didn't realize you had become such a snobby critic of PID videos. While it may be a stretch to think that every lyric in a song can mean something backwards---as I said before, I have difficultly hearing some of his interpretations---I believe there are several genuine reversals to be found in that particular song. Your "fake mustache" example is poor, by the way, because there isn't really any evidence of Paul's mustache being fake. If I'm not mistake, didn't he already appear on a televised interview with that mustache BEFORE the album cover shoot took place? Paul had a very real mustache during the late 60's and early 70's, so why wear a fake one for the Sgt. Pepper cover? I'm not suggesting that the reversal is without merit, just that since we can't prove the mustache was fake it's far from a perfect example of a "justified' speech reversal. Just as we have no hard evidence of Paul's involvement with the occult, an idea that seems to offend you for some reason.
Whatever the validity of his video is, this:
is still the most ridiculous bullshit I've ever read from you, which is not saying much since you've never been one of the bullshitters, you've always seemed to be one of the nicer, saner people here. I am still appalled that you could so viciously attack someone who really meant no harm, and even more so by the fact that you think that it was somehow justified by your views towards the content of his video. You are indefensible. From this point I will be embarrassed to even speak to my fellow YouTube friend because of this incident. When I invited him to Nothing is Real I told him nothing but good things about it: he certainly wasn't expecting to be berated. What sort of impression must he have of this place, when you, whom I honestly considered to be the one of the nicest people in all the PID scene, could be so cruel--and without a shred of an apology?
I guess I finally know that sickening feeling when someone you think you know relatively well shows their true colors. Thank you for dropping your mask, Letter Beelzebub---too bad it had to be at the expense of one of my very dear friends.
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Post by Jude on May 7, 2009 8:57:08 GMT -5
The bigger problem I see here is the overzealous presentation of corresponding macabre images used to "sell" the idea. What's up with that? Images of devils and demons? These things exist? In what reality?? Why, the same reality in which Queen Nefertiti can be found in the Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover. You know all about that reality.
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Post by iameye on May 7, 2009 9:01:08 GMT -5
The bigger problem I see here is the overzealous presentation of corresponding macabre images used to "sell" the idea. What's up with that? Images of devils and demons? These things exist? In what reality?? Why, the same reality in which Queen Nefertiti can be found in the Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover. You know all about that reality. I thought you were dead. LOL "Why, the same reality in which Queen Nefertiti can be found in the Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover. "
I never ever said that. 'ga head, prove it. Right now. We have all day. are you sure you want to start with me Jude? really really sure?
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Post by Jude on May 7, 2009 9:10:49 GMT -5
Why, the same reality in which Queen Nefertiti can be found in the Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover. You know all about that reality. I thought you were dead. LOL I never ever said that. 'ga head, prove it. Right now. We have all day. are you sure you want to start with me Jude? really really sure? I'm not starting anything with you, sister, but it certainly sounds like you want to start something with me. Back in the day you posted a lot of BS interpretations of what you and a few others imagined were mirror images hidden inside the Pepper cover. I don't need to prove it, because you'll probably just delete the posts to hide what happened. But I'm sure I'm not the only person who remembers it---65if2007 probably recalls that thread just fine, because he has an even bigger BS meter than me. But that's fine: a lot of people probably think I'm nutters for thinking John Lennon faked his own death. I only mentioned it to point out that you are no one to talk about the place of angelic and demonic imagery in the world of PID. Because everytime someone posts a religious, or pseudo-religious image and tries to relate it to PID somehow YOU are on the scene with a 2,000 word essay copied from Wikipedia complete with occultic/Egyptian/Masonic images, etc. The rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated, however New Jude did die and this is the Old, Honest Jude you are speaking to.
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Post by iameye on May 7, 2009 9:20:21 GMT -5
lol
You attacked me, it's right there in Black and White. I love the way you twist these things around, per usual. Not to mention you can't back up the statement you made about Pepper.
You were better off dead, dear.
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Post by Jude on May 7, 2009 9:31:46 GMT -5
*ahem* You attacked me, it's right there in black and white. I love the way you twist these things around, per usual. Not to mention you can't afford LOLing and generally sounding like a drunk, rude bitch. You were better off with your mouth shut, dear. Please don't start with me, because as usual, it will be dreadfully obvious that you are the attacker, while all I do I stand around offering witty retorts to your comical distortions of reality.
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Post by iameye on May 7, 2009 9:36:34 GMT -5
It's your grave. Dig away
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Post by Jude on May 7, 2009 9:42:58 GMT -5
It's your grave. Dig away I can't. You're still holding on to the shovel, my dear.
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Post by iameye on May 7, 2009 9:44:49 GMT -5
It's your grave. Dig away I can't. You're still holding on to the shovel, my dear. that's supposed to be witty? LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
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Post by Jude on May 7, 2009 9:47:44 GMT -5
I can't. You're still holding on to the shovel, my dear. that's supposed to be witty? LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO Now kids, there's a perfect example of why you should never mix vodka with with internet. Incoherency at it's worst. I love how you edited out "SER" so it wouldn't appear that you are stooping to *my* level. Too bad the end result is just you rambling "LO" incoherently.
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Post by iameye on May 7, 2009 10:13:46 GMT -5
that's supposed to be witty? LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO Now kids, there's a perfect example of why you should never mix vodka with with internet. Incoherency at it's worst. I love how you edited out "SER" so it wouldn't appear that you are stooping to *my* level. Too bad the end result is just you rambling "LO" incoherently. yeah, it was wrong to call you a loser, so i edited w/in seconds. Moral compass you see. You should get one. BTW dude, it's 11 AM all I got going is a bagel and coffee the only foolish one here is you. Amphetamines again, dear?
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Post by iameye on May 7, 2009 10:20:12 GMT -5
Not to mention you can't afford LOLing and generally sounding like a drunk, rude bitch.
I can "afford" loling because I have a sense of humor, even when I read the crap you write.
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Post by plastic paul on May 7, 2009 10:22:47 GMT -5
OK guys, enough yeah, we don't another one of these mass arguments do we?
We barely got over the last one lol!
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Post by iameye on May 7, 2009 10:26:48 GMT -5
OK guys, enough yeah, we don't another one of these mass arguments do we? We barely got over the last one lol! Plastic Paul is obviously drunk. LOL
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Post by B on May 7, 2009 10:32:06 GMT -5
No, he just has ants in his pants. ;D for reference:paul is dead - the rotten apple 12it was a fake mustache www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXa004LONmgI didn't start the fire, it was already burning since the world's been turning...
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Post by iameye on May 7, 2009 10:48:49 GMT -5
Hey Beez, how you been? ;D [quote author=iameye board=pidpix thread=5601 post=72766 time=1241706021] I'm not starting anything with you, sister, but it certainly sounds like you want to start something with me.
[/quote][/color] *ahem* You attacked me, it's right there in black and white. I love the way you twist these things around, per usual. Not to mention you can't afford LOLing and generally sounding like a drunk, rude bitch. You were better off with your mouth shut, dear. Please don't start with me, because as usual, it will be dreadfully obvious that you are the attacker, while all I do I stand around offering witty retorts to your comical distortions of reality. [/quote] aha here's one of jude's old tricks to make it look like I said that quote, when in fact HE said it. It's in yellow, for Jude. And then for some bizarre reason he gloms onto another quote, changes it for himself, to make it look as if he wrote it also.... LOL jude, forever
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Post by iameye on May 7, 2009 10:57:24 GMT -5
No, he just has ants in his pants. ;D for reference:paul is dead - the rotten apple 12it was a fake mustache www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXa004LONmgI didn't start the fire, it was already burning since the world's been turning... no B jude said" " there isn't really any evidence of Paul's mustache being fake.so that is GOSPEL!
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Post by Jude on May 7, 2009 11:00:28 GMT -5
Iameye, I never really did anything to you, did I? Just think about whatever it was you think I did to you deserve the sort of crap you write to me and about me, tell me what it is, and let me apologize, OK? No sarcasm here; I know you're capable of writing a coherent response to me that doesn't include calling me foolish or claiming that I am digging my own grave. When I communicate you I honestly feel like I'm ten years old and on the schoolyard again, and you, you're just this person who....around other people can be really sweet and nice, but when perceiving another kid to vulnerable or weak in some way, turn into this ugly bully. Honestly, that's the only way I can describe it. I wouldn't be half as sarcastic or "defensive" (depending on you see it) around you if you didn't have this long history of responding to everything is say with LOLs and various put downs. And no offense, but most of them aren't even really all that clever---not only do you feel that you have to cut me down, that I'm some sort of laughingstock who only makes things worse regardless of what I say (imagine how it would feel if no matter what you said there were people waiting to put you down for it, and then say that you're digging your own grave when you try to defend yourself), but you do it in terribly obvious ways, such as pointing out the fact that I didn't dig up some old post where you may or may not have agreed to have seen a mirrored image of Neferititi on the Pepper album. I know that behind that computer screen there is a human being reading these words---please, show me that you are one, and not some monstrous person who has decided their only relationship to me shall be that of a bully.
Letter B, I stand by all that I said to you earlier. In light of the fact that you still haven't apologized to yhshvh10, "Lord Beelzebub" isn't very amusing.
EDIT: Iameye, even as I was writing that I see that you kept on playing the bully. What's a game for you has never been one for me. I want to know if you really are such a wicked person. Wicked. Person. Yes, I meant that, and I think most sane people upon reflecting on the sort of things you write here and at Tafultong's blog to me and in reference to me would be a little ashamed of yourself. But I don't know if you can be ashamed of yourself. What is real to you, iameye? And who is iameye?
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