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Post by Valis on Jun 11, 2009 14:28:35 GMT -5
As some of you may know in the Coming Up video Bill assembled a backing band consisting of multiple versions of himself pointing to the idea of doubles. I just found out that he uses the same trick in the ebony and ivory video. Funny how I never caught that one. Coming Up www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr8x8rh4ywsEbony And Ivory www.youtube.com/watch?v=sssqBjaTzOUFunny how it is written "Plastic Macs" on the drumkit in Coming Up, referencing the Plastic Ono Band. And in my culture plastic is also a word for fake. I've asked this before but never got a clear answer, when did McCartney start having the nickname Macca? I'm sure it was somewhere in the late 60s early 70s. In science fiction the word Mecha (similar to Macca) is used to describe a robot who could pass for a human being, like the word android. And the banker never wears a mac in the pouring rain, very strange I'm back, sending a smile to all my dearies All love jan
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jun 11, 2009 14:48:52 GMT -5
As some of you may know in the Coming Up video Bill assembled a backing band consisting of multiple versions of himself pointing to the idea of doubles. I just found out that he uses the same trick in the ebony and ivory video. Funny how I never caught that one. Coming Up www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr8x8rh4ywsEbony And Ivory www.youtube.com/watch?v=sssqBjaTzOUFunny how it is written "Plastic Macs" on the drumkit in Coming Up, referencing the Plastic Ono Band. And in my culture plastic is also a word for fake. I've asked this before but never got a clear answer, when did McCartney start having the nickname Macca? I'm sure it was somewhere in the late 60s early 70s. In science fiction the word Mecha (similar to Macca) is used to describe a robot who could pass for a human being, like the word android. And the bamker never wears a mac in the pouring rain, very strange I'm back, sending a smile to all my dearies All love jan Interesting stuff, Jan.
I've never found a satisfying explanation for the Macca nickname.
Here's what Wikipedia has to say:Macca (or "Macker" in Ireland) is a common British nickname for somebody whose surname begins with the Gaelic prefix Mac or Mc (meaning "son of"). It is similar in form to Gazza, Hezza and similar nicknames that arose during the 1990s and early 21st century. People frequently referred to as Macca include: * Sir Paul McCartney, musician * Amy Macdonald, singer * Steve McClaren, ex-England football manager * Andrew McLeod, Australian rules footballer and two-time Norm Smith Medallist * Nathan McKenzie, All-Australian Superstar and Brownlow Medallist * Steve McManaman, footballer sometimes also called 'El Macca' * Stephen McPhail, footballer * Gary McAllister, former footballer and manager * Macbeth of Scotland, former Scottish king and Shakespearean tragic hero * Gary McSheffery, footballer * Chris McCormack, Australian triathlete * Michael "Macca" MacKenzie, a fictional recurring character on the Australian soap opera Home and Away * Steve McMahon, former footballer * Bruce McAvaney, Australian Sports Media Broadcaster * Neil McKenzie, South African Cricketer * Paul McNamee, Former Australian Tennis Player, now Sports Administrator This is from WikiAnswers:"It was a nickname John had for him. If you think of how a british person would say "McCartney", like McCahhtney (no Rs) it's shortened to McCaahh, or Macca " As for Mecha...Mecha are generally, though not necessarily, bipedal, with arms, hands, and fingers capable of grasping objects. A mecha that approximates the shape of a human body allows the use of martial arts movements and swordsmanship, ceremonial acts of honor, saluting, and other human mannerisms that cannot be performed using a tank or airplane. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecha
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Post by mumrikusstarr on Jun 11, 2009 15:10:05 GMT -5
I love the Plastic Mac band "He" should have made an entire CD called "The Plastic Macs" or "Meet the Macs" or "Macs For Sale"
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Post by jarvitronics on Jun 11, 2009 16:37:39 GMT -5
Funny how it is written "Plastic Macs" on the drumkit in Coming Up, referencing the Plastic Ono Band. And in my culture plastic is also a word for fake. Hi Jan! This reminds me of a line from Only Mama Knows: "Around my hand was a plastic band"The title "Only Mama Knows" makes me think of "Your Mother Should Know." -j
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Post by JoJo on Jun 11, 2009 17:27:39 GMT -5
Yes Hi Jan, glad to see ya! Darned if that video doesn't have multiple Bills, you're right. If you're like me, it's probably not one of your favorite songs, so that's why you missed it.. Well he has fun with the concept, just did it with Ever Present Past.
Jarv, he wears a plastic band around his.. wrist really.. to this day. Guess "hand" rhymes better?
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Post by Valis on Jun 11, 2009 18:15:51 GMT -5
Yep Joe,
it's weird how we are sometimes repulsed by lyrics that are showing us how good it can be. I think we are so much conditioned to take the bad stuff for real and the good stuff to be some hippy fairytale disconnected from reality.
We will make a better future, though the outside signs seem to point in another way.
"Those who look inside are awakening, those who look outside are dreaming"
Our passions (for a lot of us) The Beatles show the way
Love is the answer
Here is a speech from NWO stooge Mandela:
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, and fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We are born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us, it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others."
All Love Jan
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 11, 2009 18:33:13 GMT -5
Good find jarv re: Only Mama Knows = Your Mother Should Know.
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Post by aklairet on Jun 12, 2009 19:45:38 GMT -5
Hi you guys! this he is my first post for this excuses by my English so poor...., but well, I will try to do the best.
To the episode Heather Mills many games of words followed one another to talk about to their person, (H.M.), like the tabloide - The Sun- to transform their nickname “Lady Macca” into “Lady Mucca”, and not mucca that means “cow” in Italian, if not removing advantage from its turbid a little youthful past. since one says that call was one “girl” (“small of call”, that is one prostitut) and the word “mucca” also remembers to the English proverb “common ace to muck”, literally, “vulgar like the dirt”. Less likeable still it is to the knowledge that muck is the term that from century XIII is used to talk about to the natural installments, in particular, to the dung… somewhat strong words to talk about to a woman, but well, he is the expectable thing considering to the involved ones in the subject.
it says very well P(D)enny La(i)ne "Macca (or "Macker" in Ireland) is a common British nickname for somebody whose surname begins with the Gaelic prefix Mac or Mc (meaning "son of"). It is similar in form to Gazza, Hezza and similar nicknames that arose during the 1990s and early 21st century" but..
The MACCA does not have of in case a positive nor negative connotation, but I was with which drew much my attention. the MACCA is also used to talk about to “Lady Macbeth”, the Shakespeariana figure, and when it becomes, (in spite of the fear to certain superstition) indicating a person in particular, it is in dispproval tone towards the same.
Why? , because Lady Macbeth is syndicated like the incarnation of the evil, the lie, the deceit and of the thirst of being able, besides having paranoides attitudes and ezquezoide personality. macbeth takes to all the short while lady to it.
Good, if he were John who began to name it to thus in the 70, it did it by the contraction of last names “Mc” “Mac”, rage of the years 90s? , or by relating it to Lady Macbeth..... mmmm
this it's my small contribution
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Post by Girl on Jun 13, 2009 8:08:17 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, aklairet.
May I ask you to keep your misogynistic comments about women to yourself?
Who are we to judge what goes on behind closed doors in a marriage? Or, more importantly- someone's past. Is there anyone alive who can say they've never done anything they regret, especially when they were young and hardheaded? And is it anyone's business to know or bring up these things? No, it is not.
Excerpt from Wiki:
"...The extent and nature of the British press coverage of Mills has been criticised, as in May of 2003, when columnist Matt Seaton (The Guardian) wrote a piece declaring, "There is little that is edifying in the symbolic lynching of Heather [Mills]. The poisonous judgmentalism that drives it is in the worst tradition of small town gossip. It is prurient, spiteful, hypocritical, and we should cry 'shame' on it."[33] Publicist Mark Borkowski wrote in the Independent on Sunday, on 23 March 2008: "Not since the cult of Myra Hindley have we encountered so much vitriol aimed at one woman."[164] Feminist writer Natasha Walter has compared the coverage to that of Britney Spears.[73] Terence Blacker wrote that public figures who are young, female, pretty and fair-haired, are often subjected to public bullying which is explained as "intense media interest", such as Diana, Princess of Wales, Paula Yates, Ulrika Johnsson, and Mills.[161] Kira Cochrane, in The Guardian, said that "every misogynist epithet available" has been used against Mills. "She has somehow become the vessel through which it is acceptable for both pundits and the public to express their very worst feelings about women."
Sorry, but your "expectable thing" comment I find entirely inappropriate.
Or is that troll I smell?
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Post by B on Jun 13, 2009 9:03:58 GMT -5
Girl, I think he was saying that it was the "expectable thing" for the tabloids to be throwing dirt.
I don't see any of the "misogynistic comments about women" as being his in what he wrote. He is pointing out the connotations of the language used for mucca and (call) girl.
Cut the guy some slack! He did all right for someone whose native tongue isn't English.
Welcome, aklairet, btw.
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Post by aklairet on Jun 13, 2009 10:05:29 GMT -5
Girl, WOw!! I see that you remained with the minimum of post I said clearly that the form seemed to me very strong in which they had talked about concerning a woman…. in case and so that you do not attack yourself, it repeats with me, goosfraba! goosfraba! I come in Peace!! Yes Letter B and thanks, my intention was only to show some of the connotations that macca has to talk about to ours faul and thanks for the welcome Girl and Letter B A
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Post by Girl on Jun 13, 2009 12:00:30 GMT -5
I think one of my biggest errors when starting out online was in choosing gender-specific usernames. It has not since been repeated. If that makes me like Lady MacB, well... tough beans. I've learned too much now. Aklairet, your English is improving by the minute. Felicitations. What is your native language, if you don't mind my asking? B, you know I dislike confrontation and normally I would agree with you, but it's the second part of that sentence, "considering to the involved ones in the subject. " that comes across as judgmental. Maybe it's a girl thing. I can throw words, too. Nobody likes to be misunderstood, misrepresented, and misquoted, so take all the slack you want, mon ami. Now, back to our regularly scheduled topic.
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Post by kathryn on Jun 18, 2009 16:30:21 GMT -5
Funny, but Macca is also the name for a Peruvian herb used to increase sexual vitality, though I doubt Paul's nickname has anything to do with that.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 6, 2011 15:40:24 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Jun 6, 2011 15:48:52 GMT -5
Dr Zeus
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Post by ipuffin on Jun 10, 2011 16:00:07 GMT -5
Funny how it is written "Plastic Macs" on the drumkit in Coming Up, referencing the Plastic Ono Band. And in my culture plastic is also a word for fake. Just read the post and thought of pointing this out: www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/plastic-maca cheap coat made of thin plastic, used to keep you dry when it rains
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