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Post by truthwillsetyoufre on Nov 12, 2010 18:27:12 GMT -5
PT1.)Ladies and Gentlemen... I think it's time to author a third theory - one that combines some of what we know and presupposes a different motive for Iamaphoney's videos. Most of us got sucked in by the 'Paul is Dead' stuff, and then later had our eyes opened to Paul's fascination and 'practice' of Thelema. At a certain point in The Rotten Apple Series, we start getting less and less new information revealed, and more and more repeated images, repeated motifs (number 9, number 9, number 9) Satanic/magickal images/content and NEW backwards material. BTW - I submit to you that by the time you finish reading this, you'll realize that even 'number 9' repeated 3 times at the beginning of each video is not a coincidence or even a 'production stamp.' It has purpose. PT2)Is there the possibility that Iamaphoney knows so much about the 'dark' stuff because he himself is involved with Thelema? A Crowleyite? And if so, what is the purpose of these videos. Why drag out 'revelations' and 'secret information' for YEARS when he could easily have a major motion picture or a Discovery/History/VH1 show (hell, probably even ABC) at the snap of his fingers? There's little monetary gain in what he's doing now. He could make millions if he went mainstream. What do his viewers (not very many left at this point that continue to expose themselves) get from the videos and repeated images and sounds? The videos themselves may be conduits of magick. Someone a while back on the YouTube comments section called out hearing 'spells' in 'The Winged Beatle 3' How do you recognize a spell? Originally magic = arts. (Search Alan Moore's explanation of magic and 'arts' on YouTube) Symbols and sounds put together for the express purpose of conjuring, changing the will/behavior of people, or contacting unseen forces. So the new documentary feature just arrived on 11.9 (coincidence that we have the 9's and 11's show up again considering their considerable occult/magick significance? Also the supposed date of Paul's accident.) And what do we have? Mostly the same info we've heard before. One or two new little gems to keep us hanging on. Oh and over an hour of background backmasked music and sound clips. And subliminal still images that last only a few frames. (PT3) You can't hear the narrator without the sound on and the background 'noise' is always going. To what end? To what purpose? A good editor would tell you to back off that stuff while other people are talking because it's distracting and makes your ears strain. But it's all throughout the doc. Eventually you tune it out and focus on the narration, but it's subliminally getting through. I submit to you that the videos are 'arts' as in 'magick' itself. There's a reason why The Rotten Apple Series, The Right Album, and The RevelAtion all have the T,R,A capitalized. Because when you put those letters backwards, it's ART. As in 'magickal arts.' What these videos actually are are labeled at the beginning of each one. Are there questions we don't have answered? Sure. How does Iamaphoney know all this? Is he really Paul? What does Mal Evans' diary say? Here's the thing: the word 'occult' literally translates to 'search for hidden information.' (Isn't that what we're all doing here?) By continuing to view these things and actively seek out the answers, we move from being casual detectives to 'actively exposing ourselves to the occult and magick.' This can have consequences. I doubt that I'm alone, in fact I know I'm not. A few friends and I sat down and watched the ART series over a couple days back to back. Really focusing. Playing certain videos back over and over to catch the subliminals and figure stuff out. We ALL experienced what the mainstream would call 'haunting experiences', I prefer to call it 'oppression' or recognition of 'unseen forces' around us in the days that followed (PT4)Images and backwards speech invaded our dreams. There were things we literally couldn't get out of our heads without group prayer. I am able to pick out anagrams and backwards speech incredbily fast now, something I could never do before... and oh yeah, creepily I could've sworn I heard my co-workers speaking backwards the other day. That and the 'evil presence' I used to sense on very rare occasions used to be nebulous, just a dark feeling, but recently I've felt it's a spirit in particular. One 'The Fine Ram' would be oh so happy to hear about. The 'Walrus' on the right side of the Sgt. Pepper's album... (if you put the mirror in the right place - it's why he keeps showing the black and white numbered inset of the Sgt. Pepper's cover in the way he does.) known as Baphomet. And here's the sick thing - after ALL THAT, we're still 'drawn' to the search. "Well, maybe I'll just watch these things on mute." "Maybe I'll just check the blog. Can't be any harm in that, right?" Like moths to the flame or a dog to his own vomit, my friends and I are almost COMPELLED to return. There is something 'not normal' about the sway/pull/influence/temptation of this series. It's an odd feeling to say the least, and one that I find as I'm typing this 'sounds crazy.' But then I think, well... Manson? Zodiac? Did they experience this weirdness too? On a larger scale? If the music is 'magick?' Maybe. (and in case you didn't think the Beatles' music was magick- or at least attempts at magick - take a look at this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO5RJVkaC0M ) -'yes i think he's reaching with the Ringo Starr thing too, but the coats as cloaks and the hand positioning thing is dead on.' Those aren't semiphore flags or sign language for HELP. Look up the actual signs. (PT5) I'm not here to proselytyze, but I do think we should be aware of what's going on. Is Iamaphoney here to actively recruit new occultists? Or is he seeking to release 'magick' into the world through his ART. All I can tell you is, there's very real danger in some of this. You've been warned. "Fireman likes Youtube" indeed.
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Post by bunyan on Nov 13, 2010 15:36:58 GMT -5
Iamaphoney has effectively gone overground now. "He" is now definitely "we". Apple Corps is duly thanked. And, yes, the series went into other directions (not least backwards) in the second half. When the movie ideas were exhausted.
There is no consistent narrative to the videos. Paul is dead. Paul was replaced. Paul is a satanist. Paul is Satan. Paul is Christ. Paul is probably a lizard. Paul is still alive. Paul was not replaced. Paul is funny. Paul is bald. Paul's Youth was once a Killing Joke. Paul may have done too much pot to be a reliable witness.
Whatever you want to believe in is there. If you're looking for it. If you ignore the bits that don't fit your chosen theory. Which people are pretty good at doing.
It's almost as if someone took this forum, and maybe some others, and turned it into a film. It's almost like someone did exactly that.
Although at times it's almost like someone took a film and turned it into a forum. Sometimes you could be forgiven for thinking that. (I guess the lizards have the suitcase now...)
I don't believe in magic, or magick, or Satan, or Christ. Or lizards. And just because the word occult has a real meaning, it doesn't mean that every pursuit that meets that real meaning is somehow tainted by the unreal ideas associated with the word.
I don't believe in "the arts".
But do I believe in art.
And I believe in the power of the imagination.
Never underestimate the power of the imagination.
Because what's real and what's not real can happily co-exist in the imagination. In the imagination they can have equal weight. In the imagination our understanding of the real can be informed by the unreal. In the imagination, nothing is real, if you want it. Or everything is real, if you want that.
Soon it will be Christmas. And they'll be singing "War is over if you want it." And I'll believe it. While that record's playing. While it's Christmas. Just like I do every year. It might even bring me close to tears. Again. Because I can Imagine.
Good art speaks to the imagination. Good art fires the imagination. Good art makes the impossible happen in your head. Good art performs miracles. In your mind.
But it isn't a miracle that this happens. You don't have to be a miracle worker to do it. It's not magic.
It's just art.
The Beatles were artists. Lewis Carroll was an artist. Iamaphoney are artists. Some of the people posting on this forum are artists.
It is all to the good.
It is all good.
It is all instructive. Even the nonsense. Even the most tangential diversionary or hijacking posting. Even I Am The Walrus.
There are no insiders. There are insiders. There is a true story. There is no truth in the rumours. There are clues but nothing happened. Cry For A Shadow would have been a clue, 1F. Doo-dah-doo rhymes with clue. Looking through the bent back two lips, to see a lizard on a window pane. There are lizards here, there, and every bloody where. I'm cast-iron sure. Of something. Or of Something.
She's So Heavy? Was there Nazi gold in the coffin with him/her? Check Wikipedia. Nazis. They were in Germany, right? Hamburg's in Germany, right? The Beatles were in Hamburg, right? The 9-11 guys were in Hamburg, right? Near enough. And they make Volkswagens in Germany, right? The Beetle was a Nazi car, right? And then there was a Golf. And A Pol(l)o. QED. So Paul is dead. Or not. Add lizards to taste. What was the question again?
Do what you wanna do. And go where you're going to. Think for yourself... The rest is a clue. Or not.
It's an enigma.
It's mind games.
It's answers without questions.
It's a work of art.
It just might be a killing joke.
Ironically, it has taken on a life of its own.
It niggles at your doubts. It twangs your belief muscle. It gives the people who consider themselves to be the most cynical something to believe in. But the credulous are not immune.
Yes, a spooky film can spook you. Ideas can make you think. Unsettling thoughts can unsettle you.
But no. It isn't magick.
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Post by truthwillsetyoufre on Nov 13, 2010 16:33:21 GMT -5
You know, I find that when I put this on a Rotten Apple forum, it gets shot down amazingly quickly by some person who simply says 'they don't believe in Magick.' But they do it in a way that seems they're dropping little hints going (oh- look there. Mmm Hmm. But it's not about magick.)
It's not just about the movie or the videos on YouTube. Have you guys actually pulled out the albums and looked for yourself? Have you read the actual quotes from the magazines? Have you tried the mirror stuff yourself? Have you watched Magical Mystery Tour and compared them to Thelemic Magick Rituals?
The stuff is really there.
Conclusions - Paul was into Crowley. Maybe the rest of the Beatles too. Paul thinks he has a connection to Horus or The Sun God. George Martin is in on the whole damn thing. Maybe Paul was trying to use something occultic to accomplish good. Maybe the exact opposite. But Rotten Apple or not, the stuff is there.
Now - The Rotten Apple series itself is indeed 'art' of the magickal variety. With Freemason imagery. Am I saying giant lizards rule the world? Hell no. But I think it's funny that wherever I post this the response goes way overboard in a 'straw man' manner saying this belongs with people who believe in David Icke stuff or that I'm a Bible-thumper who thinks all rock n' roll points to the end times.
I didn't say anything about the end times, buddy. Nor am I claiming these point to them. But I am saying that Freemasonry at the higher levels and Thelema actually have some things in common. Like worshipping the 'light.' And hidden codes.
Whether you BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF MAGICK is irrelevant. My point is that The Rotten Apple Series is attempting to practice magick.
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Post by iameye on Nov 13, 2010 23:30:10 GMT -5
" I don't believe in "the arts".
But do I believe in art.
And I believe in the power of the imagination.
Never underestimate the power of the imagination."There's a lot to be said for the power of Imagination, especially the Art of it in "heaven" Imagine! how many angels can dance on the Head of a Pixel? I mean.....pin? many, many, many Angels can dance on that head, eh?
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Post by truthwillsetyoufre on Nov 14, 2010 0:06:30 GMT -5
Do tell, iameye...
What pixels? And what 'angels?'
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Post by iameye on Nov 14, 2010 7:52:39 GMT -5
Do tell, iameye... What pixels? And what 'angels?' Well, just use your Imagination! let me take you downThis Imagine "Mosaic" is just a composite of pixels, in an artistic sense, no? And every single stone tile is needed to complete the picture, like angels (messengers) so one can read the entire message. Now, if you're real good with your imagination, and squint one eye, you can see the "head" of the "pin" rushing either towards you or away from you. Or perhaps it's just standing still, dancing. ;D There's much, much, much more to be said about this image, but I'm sure you can come up with a few of your own thoughts on the matter. Right?
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Post by ramone on Nov 14, 2010 9:39:07 GMT -5
Yes indeed, what will will emanate from one's imaginasun? Choosing, choosing, decisions, decisions.
Goodness? Warmth?
Or?...
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Post by iameye on Nov 14, 2010 9:52:04 GMT -5
Yes indeed, what will will emanate from one's imaginasun? Choosing, choosing, decisions, decisions. Goodness? Warmth? Or?... Or Still a chance of All of the Above as All of the Below, where EVERYTHING flows. Look under the rock, Ramone, and see what you can see when you fall into the Good Son
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Post by iameye on Nov 14, 2010 10:11:10 GMT -5
lol
;D
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Post by truthwillsetyoufre on Nov 14, 2010 20:18:05 GMT -5
Boy.. you Thelema guys can never give a straight answer can you? Why does everything have to be so wrapped up in mystery? Mystery is fun, but mystery gets old after a while.
"As above, so below"
This phrase comes from the beginning of The Emerald Tablet and embraces the entire system of traditional and modern magic which was inscribed upon the tablet in cryptic wording by Hermes Trismegistus. The significance of this phrase is that it is believed to hold the key to all mysteries. All systems of magic are claimed to function by this formula. "'That which is above is the same as that which is below'...Macrocosmos is the same as microcosmos. The universe is the same as God, God is the same as man, man is the same as the cell, the cell is the same as the atom, the atom is the same as...and so on, ad infinitum."
This message theorizes that man is the counterpart of God on earth; as God is man's counterpart in heaven. Therefore, it is a statement of an ancient belief that man's actions on earth parallel the actions of God in heaven. This pivots on the belief that "all things have their birth from this One Thing by adaptation."
To the magician the magical act, that of causing a transformation in a thing or things without any physical contact, is accomplished by an imaginative act accompanied by the will that the wanted change will occur. The magical act and imaginative act becomes one and the same. The magician knows with certainty that for the change to occur he must will it to happen and firmly believe it will happen. Here it may be noted that magic and religion are akin: both require belief that a miracle will occur.
To bring about such a change the magician uses the conception of "dynamic interconnectedness to describe the physical world as the sort of thing that imagination and desire can effect. The magician's world is an independent whole, a web of which no strand is autonomous. Mind and body, galaxy and atom, sensation and stimulus, are intimately bound. Witchcraft strongly imbues the view that all things are independent and interrelated." These concepts pivot on the belief that all things come from the One Thing, or First Cause, and "Its power is integrating, if it be turned into earth."
The purpose of all rituals in ceremonial magic is to unite the microcosm with the macrocosm to join God, or gods when invoked, with the human consciousness. When such a supreme union is achieved the subject and object becomes one. This is because the magician feels that he is consciously in touch with all elements of the universe, therefore, he can control them. It may be said, the magician feels connected with the universe. This feeling intensifies the more the magician successfully practices his skills. Whenever he experiences a failure he knows that the ritual was not performed correctly.
When feeling unison with the universe the magician knows he has reached his Higher or True Self because he has attained mastery of himself and the universe. Thus he feels his "skillful work ascends from earth to heaven and descends to earth again, and receives the power of the superiors and of the inferiors." Therefore, he "hast the glory of the whole worldtherefore let all obscurity flee from thee." Now the miracles are possible.
Some magicians, including Aleister Crowley, claimed that when the magician reaches this ultimate peak of altered consciousness the miracles are no longer important, the extreme goal becomes the direct union with God.
--- so let's just say it - magic and imagination are interconnected and The Rotten Apple is magickal 'art' that is trying to get us all to imagine something. Maybe the 'interconnectedness.'
Right?
--- and while I'm at it. Can I at least get some Thelemite with some gumption to come out and admit that they believe the God of the Bible is the bad guy and that Lucifer/Horus/Serpent Guy/Goat's Head Guy is the good guy and that's who you guys worship?
Can I get some clarification here?
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Post by truthwillsetyoufre on Nov 14, 2010 20:21:02 GMT -5
"It is all to the good"
-tip of the hat, nod to Crowley, wink wink, nudge nudge (ahem) Witchcraft.
So what's the point man? You don't want to put it on the main forum? PM me. I'm all ears.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Nov 14, 2010 21:02:27 GMT -5
--- and while I'm at it. Can I at least get some Thelemite with some gumption to come out and admit that they believe the God of the Bible is the bad guy and that Lucifer/Horus/Serpent Guy/Goat's Head Guy is the good guy and that's who you guys worship? Can I get some clarification here? I like your style, truthwillsetyoufre.
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Post by iameye on Nov 15, 2010 6:01:19 GMT -5
Can I get some clarification here?A this time of day, I would like to point something out: .....inscribed upon the tablet in cryptic wording by Hermes Trismegistus. The significance of this phrase is that it is believed to hold the key to all mysteries.
Hermes Trismegistus, "Thrice-Wise", aka Troth (Truth), wrote the emerald tablets. The Wizard of Oz ruled the Emerald City. Paul, of Bunyan fame, gave Babe's mate, Bessie, green goggles in wintertime because she preferred the summertime. Paul's job, of gigantic proportions, was to clear and make logging roads....He painted the roads white in the Summertime for Babe, because the Blue OX prefers the wintertime. He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters. Clear enough? Are you free, yet? I WILL fight for the right.ps How come proboards is still off an hour for Daylight savings time? Did they forget to set the clock back an hour? lol
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Post by iameye on Nov 15, 2010 7:16:28 GMT -5
"As above, so below" As Heads is Tails, just call me.....iameye. Cus I'm in need of some restraint. So if you meet me, have some courtesy.... lol Logging in, logging out
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Post by truthwillsetyoufre on Nov 15, 2010 7:16:58 GMT -5
I'm close... I think... still very vague mysteries... Are you trying to say that Thelema says that Christ and Lucifer are one and the same? Flip sides of the coin depending on what point of view you prefer? Or am I way off? Also - there's a lot of 'start the fire', 'come home already' stuff. And I have to admit I'm lost. Does Thelema also have a 'second coming' narrative? And what is McCartney's role? The herald? Or is he less about interconnectedness than I think? I'm not all that familiar with American folklore. Draw me a picture instead? Sing me a song? Do what thou wilt
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Post by iameye on Nov 15, 2010 8:38:28 GMT -5
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Post by B on Nov 15, 2010 10:08:20 GMT -5
Warning! The following quote may contain errors. www.paulmccartney.com/news.php#/2073/2010-11It always pays to prepare for something unexpected just around the corner in Macca’s world, but even we were surprised when we heard Fault had been taking this very literally indeed recently. As usual, the boss (Springsteen?) had been dropped a few streets away from his Soho office – affectionately dubbed the Bat Cave by the Macca camp – to stretch his legs and mentally prepare for the day ahead. So far, so normal. As you may have read in the papers, Fault was crossing the road at traffic lights on London’s hectic Oxford Street when he spotted a bicycle courier heading towards him at high speed. Never the knight in shining armour, Fault immediately sprung into action, grabbed the woman next to him and threw her into the way of the oncoming cyclist, ensuring he narrowly missed being hit by mere moments. Seems like as well as being a living legend, Macca’s also moonlighting as a real life stuper hero these days too.
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Post by The Deceptionist on Nov 15, 2010 11:11:56 GMT -5
I'm close... I think... still very vague mysteries... Are you trying to say that Thelema says that Christ and Lucifer are one and the same? Flip sides of the coin depending on what point of view you prefer? Or am I way off? Also - there's a lot of 'start the fire', 'come home already' stuff. And I have to admit I'm lost. Does Thelema also have a 'second coming' narrative? And what is McCartney's role? The herald? Or is he less about interconnectedness than I think? I'm not all that familiar with American folklore. Draw me a picture instead? Sing me a song? Do what thou wilt I would recommend looking at this whole thing through a wider lens than just OTO/Thelema/Masons etc - thats just one segment of a much larger school of thought IMO; without at least a grounding in the bigger picture not much of this story makes any sense. I found Manly P. Hall's "Secret Teachings of All Ages" to be a good starting point for a decent overview - you will undoubtedly find answers to a lot of your questions in that magnificent tome. And once you've started reading, you'll find that you stumble across more and more related concepts (bit like youtube lol) and the bits and pieces should start slotting into place... well, thats how it worked for me at least. Good luck
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Post by truthwillsetyoufre on Nov 15, 2010 20:34:32 GMT -5
Gotta admit i wasn't expecting Greenday's 'time of your life' / 'good riddance'. What should I be looking at there? Title? Artist's name? Or Album name considering Nimrod was a deity before he was an insult? Or should I take "good riddance" as a personal affront?
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Post by iameye on Nov 15, 2010 20:46:09 GMT -5
Gotta admit i wasn't expecting Greenday's 'time of your life' / 'good riddance'. What should I be looking at there? Title? Artist's name? Or Album name considering Nimrod was a deity before he was an insult? Or should I take "good riddance" as a personal affront? Many of the above but nothing of a personal attack to you, T I thank you for this dialogue. Go back and see the fork in the Road. We will start there. I gave it to you moments ago....
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Post by iameye on Nov 15, 2010 21:07:29 GMT -5
while you think that over green day
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Post by iameye on Nov 15, 2010 21:17:37 GMT -5
Warning! The following quote may contain errors. www.paulmccartney.com/news.php#/2073/2010-11It always pays to prepare for something unexpected just around the corner in Macca’s world, but even we were surprised when we heard Fault had been taking this very literally indeed recently. As usual, the boss (Springstein?) had been dropped a few streets away from his Soho office – affectionately dubbed the Bat Cave by the Macca camp – to stretch his legs and mentally prepare for the day ahead. So far, so normal. As you may have read in the papers, Fault was crossing the road at traffic lights on London’s hectic Oxford Street when he spotted a bicycle courier heading towards him at high speed. Never the knight in shining armour, Fault immediately sprung into action, grabbed the woman next to him and threw her into the way of the oncoming cyclist, ensuring he narrowly missed being hit by mere moments. Seems like as well as being a living legend, Macca’s also moonlighting as a real life stuper hero these days too. B, the only decent thing you parodied out of that was "SPRINGSTEEN" and that, my friend, is gonna be pretty hard to get on all levels. Leave it alone the man's got the lyrics, that much for sure grab you TICKET and your suitcase A for sorta kinda dumb luck effort it's cool, don't worry B man it's time ;D ;D
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Post by MikeNL on Nov 16, 2010 18:02:52 GMT -5
while you think that over green day The Beatles: Rock Band Green Day: Rock Band
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Post by iameye on Nov 16, 2010 19:44:02 GMT -5
while you think that over green day The Beatles: Rock Band Green Day: Rock Band on the borderline, I walk alone my shadow walks beside me check my vital signs Life's but a walking shadow
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Post by iameye on Nov 16, 2010 20:12:03 GMT -5
I miss you Apollo. Very much. wish you were here. many great thanks, though, if that helps, a little.
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