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Post by aperiloushint on Jul 2, 2011 5:09:58 GMT -5
Polanski's film has uncomfortable references to Beatles. Anybody seen it and watched closely?
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Post by iameye on Jul 2, 2011 8:05:53 GMT -5
Polanski's film has uncomfortable references to Beatles. Anybody seen it and watched closely? FN Polanski Upon arriving, he finds the store gone and the last piece of furniture being removed, from the top of which falls the final, authentic, engraving, which includes a likeness of the mystery girl. With the last engraving in hand, Corso returns to the castle it depicts and crosses the threshold of the Ninth Gate.
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Post by aperiloushint on Jul 2, 2011 16:34:56 GMT -5
Part of the plot revolves around drawings made by the devil himself and 'fakes' or 'forgeries' of the drawing plates and the differences between them.
There are 3 of the book of shadows. 2 of them are thought to forgeries.
In one plate there are 4 turrets, in the other version, only three.
In another, a man holds key in his right hand. He's the forgery. The true drawIng holds the keys in his Left hand.
Both the hanged man tarot and the fool play a major part in the film. As does the tower.
A woman (Satan/Whore of Babalon) rides a 7 headed dragon in one drawing. Seven. 65if2007 do I have your attention?
Twins who work for the devil owned the book before and looked after it.
There is a sexual joining of Corso (main character) to a feminine Lucifer who at some times has blue eyes but then at others has green eyes.
-occult ties:
Beyond the obvious
Coro gets his glasses broken. They shatter on one side only. Blind in one eye.
The secret society is the order of the silver serpent. Described as bored millionaires with jaded sexual appetites. They owe their money and success to the belonging of this order and meet on the anniversary of their founder's death.
The 9 /11 connection continually appears. At one point Corso visits a hotel suite. The number is 209-211
9/1 is also on a truck's license plate the main character follows for a while.
Before Corso gets to "the tower' he travels with goats in a truck under a rainbow.
Frank Langella's character attempts to use the devil's etchings in an abandoned area of a tower in isolation. Much like Crowley's 'toolshed.
In the special features are selected storyboards. They are incredibly random. One is when they are trailing a character and figuring out which path they took at a fork in the road. There is a sign pointing the direction to 'Saint Martin' while in the actual storyboards one car is labelled '9', the other car is labelled '11' and for no reason at all there is a Roman numeral III in the middle of the page.
In one of Lucifer's drawings titled 'chance is not the same for all' there is a 'fool' and rolled dice next to him. On the faces of each dice (3 sides are visible) you can see the spot for 1,2 & 3) This works for both 3 Beatles and the sides adding up to 666.
Another of Lucifer's drawings is entitled "I enrich myself with death" and features the hanged man and a flaming sword appearing from a castle loophole.
Next drawing is 'the disciple outshines the master.' The disciple and master play chess while a moon with a face is visible in the background.
Another drawing is 'virtue is conquered' A kneeling woman (who looks like a man) offers her head to the executioner while in the background a wheel of fortune spins with 3 people attached to it. One at summit. One climbing. One descending. The executioner has a religious halo.
There are many references to "becoming naked" including a drawing where the whore of Babalon/Lucifer has her genitals covered by a crescent moon but in the real drawing they are uncovered.
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Post by aperiloushint on Jul 2, 2011 17:08:30 GMT -5
Perhaps just as interesting: at one point Dean Corso (a name change to a four letter first name from Lucas in the book it is based on 'El Club Dumas') accidentally elbows Lucifer/woman. This busts her lip open and gives her a scar on her lip exactly where Paul's scar would be. She in turn takes the blood from her lips and draws a three pronged occult symbol on his forehead. At another point- Dean and the devil take a convertible sports car (red) - Lucifer says " some people would give their teeth for a ride in this." The symbol in the opening of the devil's book as well as physical sculpture at one point in the film is the tree of life from Eden and the snake biting it's own tail around the tree. There is one APPLE in the tree, but in some scenes it curiously looks like a heart. Also in the book, Lucifer's initialing of his drawings is only "L.F." for whatever reason (ahem) Polanski made his initials in the movie LCF. Which is silly unless you're drawing an allusion to someone else who uses 3 letters. Like JPM. In the book, Corso steals/rips someone off for a volume of Dumas "The Three Musketeers." In the film, it's a four volume set of Don Quixote. I'm sure all of this makes sense and there are even more clues but then again, who knows when we might hear them. For the first of the devil's drawings is a knight riding through a fortified town with his fingers to his lips who 'counsels prudence.'
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Post by aperiloushint on Jul 2, 2011 17:30:22 GMT -5
"give my regards to Balkan."
At one point Corso's shoes become muddy. A big deal is made of him being barefoot and having his shoes returned to him after being cleaned.
A character mentions "taking the road that leads to equality with God."
The drawing of the character holding the keys in his left hand has the Hebrew letter "Teth" above his shoulder. teth's numerological/gematria equivalent is 9. "Number Nine... Number Nine... Number Nine." It corresponds astrologically with Leo. And it is path 19 in the path of the Tree of Life. It is the path of the intelligence of all secret activities of the spiritual beings and is so named because Of the influence that is diffused from the Most high, exalted and sublime glory. Didn't some guy named Lucifer want to be 'most high' a long time ago?
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Post by iameye on Jul 2, 2011 18:12:22 GMT -5
I'm sure all of this makes sense and there are even more clues but then again, who knows when we might hear them. For the first of the devil's drawings is a knight riding through a fortified town with his fingers to his lips who 'counsels prudence.' Polanski made his initials in the movie LCF. Which is silly unless you're drawing an allusion to someone else who uses 3 letters. Like JPM.
LUCY Fer? 3 letters.... hmmmm C'mon lol So, what was Corsco's profession?
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Post by iameye on Jul 2, 2011 18:16:54 GMT -5
The 9 /11 connection continually appears. At one point Corso visits a hotel suite. The number is 209-211 9/1 is also on a truck's license plate the main character follows for a while.
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Post by iameye on Jul 2, 2011 18:18:15 GMT -5
The symbol in the opening of the devil's book as well as physical sculpture at one point in the film is the tree of life from Eden and the snake biting it's own tail around the tree. There is one APPLE in the tree, but in some scenes it curiously looks like a heart. seek and ye shall find
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Post by iameye on Jul 2, 2011 18:37:28 GMT -5
"give my regards to Balkan." she's a Good wich en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wich_townWich and wych are names also used to denote brine springs or wells. By the eleventh century use of the 'wich' suffix was extended to town placenames associated with salt production; at least nine English towns/cities carry the suffix, although only five are commonly connected to salt. centuries of wisdom "You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men. You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven."Will do
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Post by iameye on Jul 2, 2011 18:50:45 GMT -5
A woman (Satan/Whore of Babalon) rides a 7 headed dragon in one drawing. Seven. 65if2007 do I have your attention?
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Post by aperiloushint on Jul 2, 2011 19:41:41 GMT -5
Cute with the paperback writer, Iameye. Thought occurs to me- you're a bit of a thread killer. So quick with the eye rolling and posting a YouTube video that may or may not be in somehow related to the very narrow synchromystic occult theory that you ascribe to. If you disagree or disapprove why don't you use your words like a big boy and tell us why? Because for all of your knowing winks and connecting Kermit the Frog to Jesus, I think you're more lost than a lot of us when it comes to connecting 'Paul is Dead'/'Paul was Replaced' with the occult/Mason/Kubrick/Manson/Zodiac/etc.
Anybody else care to actually do some work and DISCUSS these ideas on a DISCUSSION BOARD?
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Post by aperiloushint on Jul 2, 2011 19:45:25 GMT -5
Eh- I take back the 'bite' from that statement Iameye. too hasty. But still. You're Lucy reference doesn't fit with the eye rolling. And it really would be nice if you'd communicate complete thoughts. I think you've got many nuggets of wisdom, I just don't think you've got all the answers. Now if we'd openly communicate and play a team game, I think we could get close.
So how about it?
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Post by iameye on Jul 2, 2011 19:55:16 GMT -5
Eh- I take back the 'bite' from that statement Iameye. too hasty. But still. You're Lucy reference doesn't fit with the eye rolling. And it really would be nice if you'd communicate complete thoughts. I think you've got many nuggets of wisdom, I just don't think you've got all the answers. Now if we'd openly communicate and play a team game, I think we could get close. So how about it? You're Lucy reference doesn't fit with the eye rolling Oh no? I Guess you didn't know my name is "Lucy" and it fits perfectly in with the EYE ROLLING.
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Post by iameye on Jul 2, 2011 19:58:05 GMT -5
Cute with the paperback writer, Iameye. Thought occurs to me- you're a bit of a thread killer. So quick with the eye rolling and posting a YouTube video that may or may not be in somehow related to the very narrow synchromystic occult theory that you ascribe to. If you disagree or disapprove why don't you use your words like a big boy and tell us why? Because for all of your knowing winks and connecting Kermit the Frog to Jesus, I think you're more lost than a lot of us when it comes to connecting 'Paul is Dead'/'Paul was Replaced' with the occult/Mason/Kubrick/Manson/Zodiac/etc. Anybody else care to actually do some work and DISCUSS these ideas on a DISCUSSION BOARD? can't see to zodiac I showed you? A lion in a zoo? and you question lol
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Post by iameye on Jul 2, 2011 20:09:09 GMT -5
Now if we'd openly communicate and play a team game, I think we could get close.
So how about it?How about what? Close to what? Do you even know what it is you are getting close to? do you? I won't ruin the surprise! Take a hint: get to know it! FAST!
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Post by iameye on Jul 2, 2011 20:23:03 GMT -5
Eh- I take back the 'bite' from that statement Iameye. too hasty. But still. You're Lucy reference doesn't fit with the eye rolling. And it really would be nice if you'd communicate complete thoughts. I think you've got many nuggets of wisdom, I just don't think you've got all the answers. Now if we'd openly communicate and play a team game, I think we could get close. So how about it? And it really would be nice if you'd communicate complete thoughts. I think you've got many nuggets of wisdom, I just don't think you've got all the answers.lol I got plenty of answers, my friend I communicate complete thoughts, all the time , with random persuasion. take a swim with me!
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Post by aperiloushint on Jul 3, 2011 2:41:10 GMT -5
Oh you're good. Yawn.
Look, friend, (I'm not your friend, pal. I'm not your pal, buddy. I'm not your friend, guy. - South Park) you're doing the same thing I was talking about. Now I don't deny that Floyd and Badfinger along with ELP, The Killing Joke and Alan Parsons Project are telling stories that interconnect. But simply linking me to an 8 minute rendition of 'shine on you crazy diamond' doesn't break any new ground. It freezes the conversation with another branching WTF path. Now I made a quick connection. But it's not what we were talking about in this thread.
Close to what? Genuine bona fide answers that can be stated in a complete sentence. Such as. Paul never died. It is a metaphor. However he was replaced by multiple people. Here's why and here's my proof. Instead of 'Here's another cryptic statement and a YouTube link that has one line I'm hoping you pick up on that makes sense to me but is not directly connected to Paul is Dead (which is what this board was about in the first place.)
Do I know what I'm getting close to? Answers. Truth. Quite frightening and uncomfortable truth but truth nonetheless. Oh yeah, and by way of finding the truth, a lot of occult imagery/interaction that I didn't bargain for but nevertheless will wade through for understanding.
So who are you exactly? Cause it seems to me you play a character on here. The 'Lucy' we've both referenced. How about you break character and share a little about your real self. You know, give us some credentials as to why we should value your linking. Like "Hi. I'm Bill, I'm former OTO and in my spare time I like to study Enochian magic." "Hi, Bill."
And then, explain what the eye rolling is for- is it rolling your eyes because I'm wrong? Rolling your eyes at the way Polanski incorporated/hid these things? Just offer a quick commentary after the cute emoticons.
Watch - let's try an experiment. I'll ask a direct question and you respond with a direct answer. Bet you can't do it. Ready?
You paraphrased McCartney's Badfinger song. Get it Fast! That seemed threatening. Time is running out. Do you believe there will be a major catastrophe in 2011 or 2012 that artists have referenced? Explain why 'yes' or 'no.' No linking.
If you can do that, we'll keep talking and I'll lend some credence to what you say. If you cant or ask 'why' or give some bs excuse, then I'll just ignore all of your posts and figure others will take the hint and do the same as they have at Tafultong's blog.
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Post by iameye on Jul 3, 2011 4:44:12 GMT -5
Do you believe there will be a major catastrophe in 2011 or 2012 that artists have referenced?
No, there will be a change. That's what they are referencing.
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Post by iameye on Jul 3, 2011 5:05:28 GMT -5
Oh you're good. Yawn. Look, friend, (I'm not your friend, pal. I'm not your pal, buddy. I'm not your friend, guy. - South Park) you're doing the same thing I was talking about. Now I don't deny that Floyd and Badfinger along with ELP, The Killing Joke and Alan Parsons Project are telling stories that interconnect. But simply linking me to an 8 minute rendition of 'shine on you crazy diamond' doesn't break any new ground. It freezes the conversation with another branching WTF path. Now I made a quick connection. But it's not what we were talking about in this thread. You're right. It dosen't break ground, it breaks water. see, the kid walks a long way to end up in a pool of water. Is it salt or fresh water? He dives in with a helmet and light, like a miner, huh. And when the kid gets out, everyone there waiting has their mask removed. They seem happy to welcome him there, that crazy diamond, telling stories that interconnect.
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Post by iameye on Jul 3, 2011 5:22:48 GMT -5
So, what was Corsco's profession? you didn't answer my question. Upon arriving, he finds the store gone and the last piece of furniture being removed, from the top of which falls the final, authentic, engraving, which includes a likeness of the mystery girl. With the last engraving in hand, Corso returns to the castle it depicts and crosses the threshold of the Ninth Gate. I thought you wanted to talk about the movie
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Post by iameye on Jul 3, 2011 6:00:54 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Jul 3, 2011 7:33:04 GMT -5
'Green Eyes' is a metaphor. Nice work, Polanski.
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Post by GN on Jul 3, 2011 9:46:50 GMT -5
Eh- I take back the 'bite' from that statement Iameye. too hasty. But still. You're Lucy reference doesn't fit with the eye rolling. And it really would be nice if you'd communicate complete thoughts. I think you've got many nuggets of wisdom, I just don't think you've got all the answers. Now if we'd openly communicate and play a team game, I think we could get close. So how about it? And it really would be nice if you'd communicate complete thoughts. I think you've got many nuggets of wisdom, I just don't think you've got all the answers.lol I got plenty of answers, my friend I communicate complete thoughts, all the time , with random persuasion. take a swim with me! Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun. Shine on you crazy diamond. Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky. Shine on you crazy diamond. You were caught on the cross fire of childhood and stardom, blown on the steel breeze. Come on you target for faraway laughter, come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and shine! You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon. Shine on you crazy diamond. Treatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light. Shine on you crazy diamond. Well you wore out your welcome with random precision, rode on the steel breeze. Come on you raver, you seer of visions, come on you painter, you piper, you prisoner, and shine!
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Post by iameye on Jul 3, 2011 13:46:20 GMT -5
with a word you can get what you came for
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Post by iameye on Jul 4, 2011 2:12:49 GMT -5
Nobody knows where you are, how near or how far I am very, very near As close as can be! yea
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